Why You’re Too Stupid To Be An Atheist…

For every smug high school boy, college hipster, liberal secularist, and twenty something who thinks they have all the answers. This video is for you.

The best part about growing older was realizing I don’t know everything. It works on your humility and prevents one from looking profoundly, pathetically stupid.

About Katrina Fernandez

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  • http://www.facebook.com/rusty.yates.7 Rusty Yates

    I have been an atheist for 50 years and it looks more correct to me today than it did when I was 12. And yes the religious do look foolish and the atheists do look much smarter with some rare exceptions. I can honestly say I am proud to be an atheist and even more proud my kids are.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      I’m sorry to read you’re proud your children are Godless. But I’m an optimist… all in God’s time. Thanks for commenting too. I welcome your perspective.

    • TheodoreSeeber

      And the sad part is- your atheism is likely based on theist theories like those of Fr. Georges Lemaitre. Just like this video.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rusty.yates.7 Rusty Yates

        There are some that can think rationally and religiously but for most people it is one or the other.

        • TheodoreSeeber

          True enough. Though for the most part, those groups are separated from Catholicism.

          • http://www.facebook.com/rusty.yates.7 Rusty Yates

            Touché! But you can guess that is not how I had it parsed.

  • nbwooden

    I LOVE it! I also would love to have that room! Thanks for posting!

  • Pedro Erik

    Great video. Thanks. I know a lot of them.

  • Vision_From_Afar

    This “diatribe” works for any subject with opposing viewpoints, so long as you switch up some of the words. It has nothing to do with Atheism or Christianity, or the proponents of either. It’s a whiny little rant about people who scrape the surface of a subject and come out swinging against opponents as if they were subject-matter experts.
    There’s nothing amusing or useful about this video, except to give some british gorp another viewing on his Youtube account.

  • TheodoreSeeber

    What is funny about this is the Big Bang Theory is a THEIST theory. It was created by a Jesuit Priest.

    Stephen Hawking is an atheist who uses theist theories to describe the universe. Stephen Hawking is too stupid to be an atheist, and so is just about everybody I know.

    • Godlesspanther

      This is a very strange way of thinking. A scientific theory is automatically linked to the theology of the one who first proposed the theory?

      Interesting. Perhaps you should develop that theory a bit more and sse what comes of it.

      • TheodoreSeeber

        It isn’t my theory to develop. It is the one taught to me by the New Atheist movement that absolutely insists that everybody living before the great enlightenment of atheism was an idiot, and thus, all theists are worthless and need to be strung up on the telegraph poles of Mexico.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

          No, that’s what the things living in your head say.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            The voices living in my head know how to edit Wikipedia?
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            Nice to see you admit having voices in your head.

            I was referring to your routine blood libel against atheists.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            And for it to be libel, it has to be not true. Since the utter massacre of the Calles Law did happen, we have positive proof that atheism leads to mass murder. No voices in the head required.

            And thus, no libel, blood or otherwise.

            Congradulations on proving the main topic: you are also too stupid to be an atheist (plus, not bloodthirsty enough).

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “And for it to be libel, it has to be not true.”

            Like this false statement of yours:

            “It is the one taught to me by the New Atheist movement that absolutely insists that everybody living before the great enlightenment of atheism was an idiot, and thus, all theists are worthless and need to be strung up on the telegraph poles of Mexico.”

            Sorry, the New Atheist movement teaches nothing of the kind. Stop lying about atheists.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            That is not a false statement. A. New Atheiest, President Calles of Mexico, did exactly that- and by your own rhetoric you would do it too. You are lying when you pretend atheists are good.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “That is not a false statement. A. New Atheiest, President Calles of Mexico, did exactly that”

            Using time travel? The term “new atheist” was coined by Gary Wolf in November 2006 in Wired. Calles died in 1945.

            “You are lying when you pretend atheists are good.”

            Nope. Some atheists are good, some are bad. You’re a liar, and a bad one at that.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            “New Atheist” is just new terminology to refer to a set of philosophical and political strategies that are EXACTLY THE SAME as those the PRI have followed in Mexico. It doesn’t take a genius to see where removing all religion from the schools and limiting church involvement in the wider civilization to only private worship services goes to.

            There are no good atheists, only delusional ones.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “”New Atheist” is just new terminology to refer to a set of philosophical and political strategies that are EXACTLY THE SAME as those the PRI have followed in Mexico”

            Not at all. Stop lying. “New atheist” was a term created in 2006 to describe recent atheist writers/lecturers like Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, etc

            http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/

            “It doesn’t take a genius to see where removing all religion from the schools and limiting church involvement in the wider civilization to only private worship services goes to.

            There are no good atheists, only delusional ones.”

            It doesn’t take much of anything to see your bigotry against atheists.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            There is no difference between the philosophy of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, and other new atheists and the PRI in Mexico *at all*. They’re all of cut of the same cloth, united in their hatred of legitimate moral authority. And yes, as a follower of legitimate objective moral authority, I am bigoted against their stupidity.

            Which takes us right back to the title of this blog- for I consider them far too stupid to be intellectually honest.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “There is no difference between the philosophy of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, and other new atheists and the PRI in Mexico *at all*. ”

            Your pathetic attempt to paint all atheists as murderers is noted.

            “They’re all of cut of the same cloth, united in their hatred of legitimate moral authority.”

            Wait, are you talking about atheists or Jews? It’s hard to keep track with foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics who hold an entire segment of humanity as immoral scum.

            “And yes, as a follower of legitimate objective moral authority, I am bigoted against their stupidity.”

            Well la-di-da.

            “Which takes us right back to the title of this blog- for I consider them far too stupid to be intellectually honest.”

            So leave. Nobody’s keeping you here except your oversize ego.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            “Your pathetic attempt to paint all atheists as murderers is noted.”

            Well, that has more to do with their support of euthanasia than their philosophy in specific that so mirrors the philosophy of murderers.

            If you don’t like being painted as a murderer- don’t be an atheist.

            “Wait, are you talking about atheists or Jews? It’s hard to keep track with foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics who hold an entire segment of humanity as immoral scum.”

            I don’t hold them as immoral scumm. They have the ability to convert and become moral, just like anybody else. I hold their philosophy to be a philosophy based in a worship of death, however.

            “So leave. Nobody’s keeping you here except your oversize ego.”

            I would direct your attention to the 5th line of text from the top of the page:

            Home
            Catholic Channel
            The Crescat

            Apparently, atheists are also illiterate.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “Well, that has more to do with their support of euthanasia than their philosophy in specific that so mirrors the philosophy of murderers.”

            Your pathetic attempt to dishonestly equivocate between murder and support for euthanasia is also noted.

            “If you don’t like being painted as a murderer- don’t be an atheist.”

            Only dishonest fanatics like yourself equate atheists and murderers.

            “I don’t hold them as immoral scumm. They have the ability to convert and become moral, just like anybody else.”

            Like I said, you consider them immoral now. But you’re a lunatic.

            “So leave. Nobody’s keeping you here except your oversize ego.”

            “I would direct your attention to the 5th line of text from the top of the page:”

            That’s hardly “keeping you here.” You can leave any time. Your ego just won’t let you.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            “Your pathetic attempt to dishonestly equivocate between murder and support for euthanasia is also noted.”

            And thus you continue to prove Crescat and myself to be correct, that atheists are idiots. Everybody knows that euthanasia is murder.

            “Only dishonest fanatics like yourself equate atheists and murderers.”

            Once again, look what channel you are writing in. And I’ve proven atheists support murder, even when they’re not murderers themselves. President Calles never bothered to ride out and string up a Catholic on a telephone pole either- he just ordered other people to do it for him.

            “Like I said, you consider them immoral now. But you’re a lunatic.”

            No, I consider them to be immoral because they put forth philosophies that are objectively immoral. Anybody with a brain can see it; the only reason you can’t is because you are damaged.

            “That’s hardly “keeping you here.” You can leave any time. Your ego just won’t let you.”

            No, I am pointing out that you are posting in a Catholic Channel as an atheist, and thus have lost the battle before you even started. I’m not about to let an idiot like you have the last word, even though it is likely that every lurker has abandoned this post by now.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “And thus you continue to prove Crescat and myself to be correct, that atheists are idiots. Everybody knows that euthanasia is murder.”

            Here’s a newsflash: not everyone agrees with you. “Everybody knows” is just another lie of yours.

            Besides, I referred to “SUPPORT for euthanasia” — you dishonestly tried to equivocate on support for euthanasia with committing murder. Someone like Harris, say, may support euthanasia without having euthanized anyone, so even using your warped definitions, he wouldn’t be equivalent to a murderer.”

            “”Only dishonest fanatics like yourself equate atheists and murderers.”

            Once again, look what channel you are writing in.”

            What, I’m in the “dishonest fanatics” forum? Well, you said it, not me. I like to think that some Catholics aren’t dishonest fanatics.

            “And I’ve proven atheists support murder, even when they’re not murderers themselves.”

            Not all atheists support euthanasia, idiot. But facts are useless against you.

            “President Calles never bothered to ride out and string up a Catholic on a telephone pole either- he just ordered other people to do it for him.”

            But he apparently had a time-travel machine, in order to be labeled a “new atheist.” Right.

            “No, I consider them [atheists] to be immoral because they put forth philosophies that are objectively immoral. Anybody with a brain can see it; the only reason you can’t is because you are damaged.”

            Again you use words like “objectively” without knowing what they mean. Talk about brain damage.

            “No, I am pointing out that you are posting in a Catholic Channel as an atheist, and thus have lost the battle before you even started.”

            Sorry, posting in a forum doesn’t give you any kind of super powers or grant you any assumptions. But logic isn’t your strong suit.

            ‘I’m not about to let an idiot like you have the last word”

            See? You think having the last word means something in an argument. You’re pathetic.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            “Here’s a newsflash: not everyone agrees with you. “Everybody knows” is just another lie of yours.”

            It’s definitional that euthanasia is murder. Has been for the last thousand years or so. But hey, continue being an idiot if you want to.

            “Besides, I referred to “SUPPORT for euthanasia” — you dishonestly tried to equivocate on support for euthanasia with committing murder. Someone like Harris, say, may support euthanasia without having euthanized anyone, so even using your warped definitions, he wouldn’t be equivalent to a murderer.”

            Support for murder is still murder, whether you do it with your own hand or somebody else’s. That’s why we also refer to abortion as a genocide.

            “What, I’m in the “dishonest fanatics” forum? Well, you said it, not me. I like to think that some Catholics aren’t dishonest fanatics.”

            “Dishonest fanatic” is a subjective term that changes depending on where you are posting, and since you’re posting in a Catholic Channel, that makes YOU the dishonest fanatic, not me. But I’m not surprised that your brain isn’t capable of understanding that nuance.

            “Not all atheists support euthanasia, idiot. But facts are useless against you.”

            No, but all atheists support the Freedom From Religion politics that leads to such things. As has been shown every single time it has been tried.

            “Sorry, posting in a forum doesn’t give you any kind of super powers or grant you any assumptions. But logic isn’t your strong suit.”

            It is atheists who deal in false assumptions, not Catholics- one of them being that logic isn’t illogical. Or that the appeal to authority fallacy isn’t in and of itself an appeal to authority. But thanks for playing and showing once again that atheists are nothing more than parrots who can’t think for themselves.

            You are the one unable to stop replying to me.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “It’s definitional that euthanasia is murder.”

            Wrong. That’s why there are two words there.

            “Has been for the last thousand years or so.”

            The term “euthanasia” was coined by the historian W. E. H. Lecky in 1869.

            More time travel I suppose.

            “Support for murder is still murder”

            Wrong again. Support for murder is support for murder, it isn’t a murder itself.

            “”Dishonest fanatic” is a subjective term that changes depending on where you are posting, and since you’re posting in a Catholic Channel, that makes YOU the dishonest fanatic, not me.”

            Oh, so now honesty depends on what forum people post in? Funny, I thought honesty was independent of such things. But you must be one of them “relativists”.

            “”Not all atheists support euthanasia, idiot. But facts are useless against you.”

            No, but all atheists support the Freedom From Religion politics that leads to such things.”

            Yeah, religious freedom. That’s just terrible.

            I know you hate religious freedom.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            “Wrong. That’s why there are two words there.”

            One is a subset of the other. Euthanasia is murder, but I guess you’re just too stupid to see that, so we’ll move on.

            “The term “euthanasia” was coined by the historian W. E. H. Lecky in 1869.”

            So what? The concept of killing to remove suffering has been around a lot longer than that, just as the concepts of Dawkins and Harris didn’t start with them either. Thus leading back to my earlier point that atheists deliberately obscure history, and refuse to teach it.

            “Oh, so now honesty depends on what forum people post in? Funny, I thought honesty was independent of such things. But you must be one of them “relativists”.”

            No, once again you’re projecting. I am not a relativist, and that’s why I’m not allowing you to be one in this discussion.

            “Yeah, religious freedom. That’s just terrible.”

            It is when it becomes censorship.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “Euthanasia is murder, but I guess you’re just too stupid to see that, so we’ll move on.”

            Yeah, ad hominem always works, eh?

            “So what? The concept of killing to remove suffering has been around a lot longer than that”

            But you falsely claimed that “It’s definitional that euthanasia is murder. Has been for the last thousand years or so.”

            It can’t have been DEFINITIONAL if the word didn’t even exist.

            “”Oh, so now honesty depends on what forum people post in? Funny, I thought honesty was independent of such things. But you must be one of them “relativists”.”

            No, once again you’re projecting. I am not a relativist, and that’s why I’m not allowing you to be one in this discussion.”

            But you still haven’t explained how “dishonesty” depends on the forum. But you never explain, you only assert.

            “”Yeah, religious freedom. That’s just terrible.”

            It is when it becomes censorship.”

            You forgot “war is peace” and “ignorance is strength”, though you certainly use the latter.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            “It can’t have been DEFINITIONAL if the word didn’t even exist.”

            If it is DEFINITIONAL- then it is the DEFINITION that counts, not the word. Funny how you just proved that I wasn’t so much doing an ad hominem, as stating the simple truth about your intelligence, or rather, the utter lack thereof.

            “But you still haven’t explained how “dishonesty” depends on the forum. ”

            Because dishonesty is linked to assumptions- and assumptions change based on the philosophical context. But hey, don’t let that dictionary page cut bother you when you’re trying to look up all those big words.

            “You forgot “war is peace” and “ignorance is strength”, though you certainly use the latter.”

            I’m not the one who apparently doesn’t understand that philosophical concepts can have been around longer than the words we use for them. I’d say that it is you who are extremely ignorant of the destruction atheism has caused in this world.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            “If it is DEFINITIONAL- then it is the DEFINITION that counts, not the word.”

            But you can’t have a definition without a word, and the term Euthanasia is fairly recent, not a thousand years.

            “Funny how you just proved that I wasn’t so much doing an ad hominem, as stating the simple truth about your intelligence, or rather, the utter lack thereof.”

            Nope, you clearly used an ad hominem — you attempted (and failed) to “win” the argument by just saying I’m too stupid.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            “But you can’t have a definition without a word, and the term Euthanasia is fairly recent, not a thousand years.”

            English is not the first language this has been expressed in, nor will it be the last. But hey, don’t let your historical myopia bother you- it’s a philosophical hazard of being an atheist.

            “Nope, you clearly used an ad hominem — you attempted (and failed) to “win” the argument by just saying I’m too stupid.”

            At which point you responded, as you have throughout this entire thread, by proving your stupidity.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            It was originally in the writings of Hypotylus of Greece.

          • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

            Woa woa. Flag on the play. As author and host of this blog I feel I must interject. Enough with the “idiots”, “liars” and other name calling please. Both of you. Condescending & patronizing comments do nothing for fruitful dialogue.If we can’t play nice don’t play at all.

            PS – thank you Brian for participating in the comments. I always appreciate it when non-Catholics stop by and offer their perspective.

            PPS- Euthanasia is murder. So is abortion.

          • http://www.facebook.com/brian.westley Brian Westley

            I disagree, and will work for both to be/remain legal.

          • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

            Well you won’t do it here.

          • Ye Olde Statistician

            Will that include the category defined by Sam Harris of those who hold opinions so dangerous that they can be killed?

          • TheodoreSeeber

            Freedom OF religion is religious freedom. Freedom FROM religion is dictatorship. Learn the difference.

          • TheodoreSeeber

            Ok- I know that euthanasia is murder, and so does anybody with any brains in their head. New atheists are idiots.

          • TheodoreSeeber
          • TheodoreSeeber

            Created by a bigotry against me.

            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566501/

          • TheodoreSeeber

            And you’re the one lying about the motives of atheists.

            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566501/

          • TheodoreSeeber
          • TheodoreSeeber

            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1566501/

            No libel at all, it happened.

          • TheodoreSeeber
  • http://www.facebook.com/barbara.worn.73 Barbara Worn

    Two words: #1 BILL, #2 MAHR

  • Margaret Whitestone

    Neither amusing nor correct. It’s not the atheists who claim to have all the answers, it’s the theists. The theist answer to everything is “god did it”. Atheists are more than happy to answer “I don’t know” when they don’t. Of course the theist takes “I don’t know” as an admission that the atheist is wrong, and therefore gods exist, and they did everything.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      Then let me introduce you to Catholicism; those folks who invented the phrase “mystery of faith”.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Maine-Skeptic/100003717759495 Maine Skeptic

        yes, Katrina, and they use “mystery of faith” to explain why they can claim to know the truth without having to explain anything.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1387795139 Denise Royer

    Let me know when a vid addresses high school girls, college graduates, conservative secularists, and those over twenty. Because I fall into at least two of those.

  • God

    Yikesssss this is why blogs are still irrelevant…Gotta stop repeating long debunked arguments

  • Han Ng

    Best part of this video: I think that John Safran is himself an atheist. Anyway, have you seen his “Pope or the Dalai Lama” bit from the same series? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kstH-8jwa80

  • Max Gron

    The only reason I can neither be atheist nor theist (but holy and religious) is that God and gods and goddesses are unknowable. In fact, this is an act of bravery, such as my consistent beliefs I fight for to maintain what I believe in, my act of confronting people with philosophy head on, the causes I do this for: i.e. it’s all for a good cause, aestheticism for instance is to do beautiful things therefore I have a good way of explaining, I’m not harmful, I only do beautiful things and art, and harming others would be harming myself, and I made a peaceful existence for myself, you see, because it’s not due to collision of atoms, it’s all empty spaces with no violence. :)

  • Stephen

    I have to be honest. If you think atheism is predicated on an advanced degree in science you’re truly missing the point. There is a good deal of difference between trusting a concept you can’t fully comprehend based on it’s support from the scientific method and repeatable outcomes, and that of having faith that a supernatural and omnipotent force heretofore unseen by man has set all existence in motion. Do not mistake them both for being blind leaps of faith.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

    unceremoniously banned.


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