UPDATED — The Mob Gets What The Mob Wants – Sister Jane Dominic Laurel Takes Sabbatical…

*Scroll down for updates posted 4/9/14 @ 1 p.m and for Bishop Jugis’s statement 4/10/14.

… One final update on the shameful incident here in Charlotte.

Sr. Jane Dominic Laurel is on sabbatical and all her future talks have been cancelled. Some have speculated she’s been thrown under a bus and shipped off to a re-education camp, and it certainly sounds like it. Well maybe not the re-education camp part, but it doesn’t appear she’s getting much support from Aquinas College.

Aquinas College’s statement,

In her presentation, Sister Jane Dominic spoke clearly on matters of faith and morals. Her deviation into realms of sociology and anthropology was beyond the scope of her expertise. Sister is a trained theologian from a Pontifical University and has the credentials to contribute to scholarly bodies of work. This she has done in the past with distinction. The unfortunate events at Charlotte Catholic High School are not representative of the quality of Sister’s academic contributions or the positive influence that she has had on her students. The students at Charlotte Catholic were unprepared, as were their parents, for the topic that Sister was asked to deliver. The consequence was a complete misrepresentation of the school’s intention to bring a message that would enlighten and bring freedom and peace.

There are no words that are able to reverse the harm that has been caused by these comments. The community of Aquinas College is saddened by this extreme outcome and wishes to reiterate that this is not something the College condones or desires to create.

The students and their parents were unprepared? I think the words they are looking is “poorly catechized.”

So Sister Jane Dominic is on a sabbatical. I’m glad she’ll get a break from all this lunacy. In the meantime we can continue to pray for her and awesome Dominican nuns everywhere.

And for those who spoke ill of Bishop Jugis, and don’t even deserve to have their garbage linked to, a response from the diocese Communications Director, David Hains.

CHARLOTTE, NC, April 7, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The bishop of Charlotte is backing a Dominican nun who has been at the center of a fiery controversy since last month when she gave a speech promoting Catholic teaching on sexuality to students at Charlotte Catholic High School.

After a public meeting with diocesan and school officials turned ugly, with parents and students alike shouting at administrators over what they perceived as “hateful” remarks criticizing homosexual behavior, divorce and extra-marital sex, a spokesman for the diocese told LifeSiteNews that the nun in question, Sr. Jane Dominic Laurel, did nothing wrong and will be welcome to speak on the issue again if she chooses.

“Nothing in Sister’s talk opposed Church teaching,” Diocese of Charlotte Communications Director David Hains told LifeSiteNews in an email. “Sister would be welcomed to speak in the diocese in the future.”

Hains said Bishop Peter Jugis is expected to make further public comment on the situation soon.

Too bad the damage is already done. Sr. Laurel’s reputation has been called into question and we’ve been robbed of her talks here in the diocese, for the time being anyway. But don’t worry. Her course, The Rich Gift of Love, is still available for viewing on the Newman Connection website.

Here’s an idea — a post a week devoted to each part of her course. Let’s turn this incident into something constructive by promoting Sister Jane Dominic’s work.

Related: Women of Grace – Sister Jane Dominic to Take Sabbatical, Sister Jane Dominic Laurel, OP, betrayed by her own? and Sister Jane Dominic Laurel – one strike and she’s out?

UPDATED 4/9/14From Rebecca Hamilton,

It turns out that the LifeSiteNews story that I quoted in this post got things wrong.
Bishop Jugis did not make a statement in support of Sister Jane through his spokesperson, David Hain.
David Hain made a comment to that effect in Public Catholic’s com boxes earlier today. I called Mr Hain and he actually did leave the comment. He told me that Bishop Jugis will issue a formal statement concerning what happened to Sister Jane soon.

As soon as that statement comes out, I’ll publish it here.

Here is what David Hains wrote in the combox earlier today.

This post incorrectly spells of the name of Bishop Jugis both in the headline and several times throughout the article. As the Bishop’s spokesman I can assure you that he has not issued a statement on the matter at this time, 4/9/2014. The statement you are quoting came from Father Roger Arnsparger, Vicar for Education in the Diocese of Charlotte. Thank you for your interest in covering this story.

Isn’t this the craziest thing? Especially since no one was ever able to present what Sr. Jane Dominic actually said, except for the recounting of some indignant teenagers… always a reliable source.

Without evidence of what was said what is there to defend or apologize for, for that matter?

UPDATED – 4/10/14 @ 1 pm

In a statement released yesterday, Bishop Jugis writes that he is shocked over lack of charity.

Bishop Jugis’ full statement, issued April 9, follows:

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

The past few weeks have been very difficult for Charlotte Catholic High School. We have all experienced a great deal of pain. During this difficult time I want to express my support and encouragement for all the parents, students, staff and faculty at the high school. We must move forward toward healing with charity, the hallmark of our Christian life.

Different viewpoints regarding Sr. Jane Dominic Laurel’s presentation to students on March 21, 2014, have been discussed in a variety of venues.

At the parent meeting on April 2, 2014, many expressed concern about the lack of advanced communication with parents regarding the subject matter of the assembly. Apologies were made at the meeting for that lack of advanced communication.

The content of the Church’s moral teaching was not raised as a matter of contention at the parent meeting. All of our Catholic schools are committed to hold and teach the Catholic faith in its fullness and with integrity. The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains an explanation of our faith and is accessible to all.

During this difficult time I support the continued work of Fr. Matthew Kauth, the chaplain; Mrs. Angela Montague and Mr. Steve Carpenter, the assistant principals; and Mr. Randy Belk, the dean of students; and all they are doing for our Charlotte Catholic High School students. All of us are indebted to them.

I am shocked to hear the disturbing reports of a lack of charity and respect at the parents’ meeting, and outside the meeting in conversations and in social media. There simply is no room in the Catholic Church for such displays of uncharitableness and disrespect. If we have failed in this regard let us make amends to God and neighbor. Even when we disagree, that disagreement should be expressed respectfully in love.

We ask the Lord Jesus Christ for His mercy and His healing as we approach the celebrations of Palm Sunday, Holy Week and Easter Sunday of the Lord’s Resurrection. Please be assured of our continued dedication to the mission to teach and live the truth of the Catholic faith at our Charlotte Catholic High School.

Sincerely yours in Christ,

Most Reverend Peter J. Jugis

Bishop of Charlotte

I still wish he had been there at that meeting and stared down the angry mob. I tend to think that the mob would have been far less mob like and more civil if he’d been present. I like to think that the parents wouldn’t have dared behave like that in front of their Bishop. I’d like to think that.

I don’t mean to question why he wasn’t there and I trust his reasons were good. He’s a good man and I’ve been personal witness to all the good that he’s brought about in our diocese. I cannot muster a single negative thing to say about him, and if I could it doesn’t belong in the public forum.

I just wish he’d been at that meeting. That’s all.

Now back to Lent.

About Katrina Fernandez

Mackerel Snapping Papist

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

    Good. Pray for me. I hear the act of prayer can be transforming.

  • Nordog6561

    Have you never met a gay advocate?

    • KyriaGrace

      And he claims to be a parent at the school (although his maturity level indicates he’s more probably a student). It’s clear he despises the Church and Christianity, and he should have the decency to leave the school and go to one more in line with his ideas.

    • LisaTwaronite

      Not all of us gay advocates are whiny — at least no more so than anyone else.

      • Nordog6561

        Yeah right.

        Tell me another story mommie. One with woodland creatures wearing vests and hats.

        • LisaTwaronite

          Seriously — some of us are earnest and try to be considerate. But I guess you’ll have to take my word for it.

          • Nordog6561

            What you describe is a statistical outlier, or better known as the exception that proves the rule.

            In any event, you’re still no help. You advocate for madness. Doing so considerately (to take you at your word) is, like I said, no help.

            Thanks for nothing.

            Oh, and in the big cultural throw down that is brewing (thanks for the Alphabet Pride People) your considerate approach, being in the middle of the road an all, is going to get run over. My money is riding on the notion that the tire marks you will wind up with on your back will be traced to a car with an “=” sticker in the window.

          • LisaTwaronite

            Well, I certainly advocate for the kind of world in which I want to live. In that way, I’m no different from anyone else.

            And I’m far from an “outlier.” I’m fairly mainstream, when it comes to the gay agenda — you know, just forcing my kids to attend the Pride Parade, making them read “Heather Has Two Mommies” — that sort of thing. Viva La Revolucion!

          • Nordog6561

            >>Viva La Revolucion!<<

            I predict that what you and your cohort are unleashing will more closely resemble the French Revolution, not the Mexican one.

            More like: Liberté, égalité, fraternité

          • LisaTwaronite

            Darn, if that’s true. Give me a good flan de leche instead of cake, any day.

  • Ronald Weinrick

    Sex outside of marriage is wrong because it robs the act of the intimacy, giftedness, and by the way, romance which is crucial for wholeness (as in holy).

    • LisaTwaronite

      Sex outside of marriage can be quite romantic, actually. You can say that it doesn’t fit with your values or with the teachings of the Church, and you can therefore claim it’s “wrong,” and I won’t even bother to argue with you there — but there can be plenty of romance in it, and sometimes even true love.

      • Quittin’ time at Tara!

        Says someone who puts “wrong” in quotation marks.

        • LisaTwaronite

          Well, I was quoting him .

      • http://outsidetheautisticasylum.blogspot.com/ Theodore Seeber

        “True love” would be man enough to get married first.

        • LisaTwaronite

          Not all women want to be married. Some of us resisted getting dragged down the aisle! True love is about mutual respect, and not every relationship is on the same terms — nor should they be. Romance is truly possible without marriage.

          • http://outsidetheautisticasylum.blogspot.com/ Theodore Seeber

            Then you should not be having sex, since you don’t know what commitment is, and thus, do not know what true love is. Romance is not necessarily love- it can be entirely narcissistic and just using the other person while not caring about them at all.

            Love without commitment is merely lust, merely Eros. It can never lead to Agape.

          • LisaTwaronite

            Yes, it has indeed led to Agape. My partner and I are in a non-traditional relationship (we live apart) and have been together for almost three decades without the benefit of a Church-sanctioned union. We do indeed know what true love is, and care deeply about each other, and our union is far from “using the other person” (although I admit I did “use” civil marriage only for its legal benefits, when I feared I would run afoul of immigration laws).
            Your original point was about romance, and I chimed in to say that marriage isn’t a prerequisite for it. I am a living, breathing example of my point.

          • http://outsidetheautisticasylum.blogspot.com/ Theodore Seeber

            My original point was about “True Love” and how one night stands and quickie divorces and promiscuity don’t cut it.

            You’re in a traditional marriage if you’re not cheating on him and he isn’t cheating on you- church or no church.

          • LisaTwaronite

            That’s an interesting and inclusive definition — with which I actually do agree.
            And I see now that it was Mr. Weinrick, not you, who made the original point that prompted me to add my two cents, when he alleged that sex outside of marriage robbed its participants of romance, etc.

          • http://outsidetheautisticasylum.blogspot.com/ Theodore Seeber

            I think the reconciliation between the two is you have what the Church calls a “Natural Marriage” as opposed to a “Sacramental Marriage”. All of the romance, none of the eternity, is the way I’d put it.

            But it does not lead to the conclusion that Sacramental Marriage is unnecessary. Just that it’s much harder to tell the difference without resorting to the spiritual imagery of the two souls becoming one through the complementary nature of heterosexuality linking two bodies into one procreative action.

            And that, is pretty exclusive, as it should be.

  • Lisa Julia

    Sister is in the loving care and protection of her Sisters, who are handling this situation in Sister’s best interest despite what some want to believe. And she definitely knows she has LOTS of support. They are aware of all the buzz…i can promise you that…but…All they want are prayers and to have this story die. ( i feel like a broken record because i keep repeating this on every blog that is keeping them in the glare of the spotlight). There’s a reason that the only official statements from the Order have been on exactly one of their public pages, though they are active on social media and have websites for all the schools across the country…and 2 foreign countries…where they operate. If the Sisters wanted to defend their statements or talk about what Sister Jane Dominic is up to these days, they would do it…but…the Prioress General, Mother Ann Marie is the spiritual mother to about 300 Nashville Dominicans and it is her duty to ensure the safety of her ‘daughters’ and keep them from harm’s way…If you have any experience with them, have friends or family members in the Order, you would already know that Sister Jane Dominic is being loved and cared for…not thrown under a bus.

    • KyriaGrace

      I am so glad to read this.

  • Lisa Julia

    Katrina has the best intentions of anyone i can think of but hopefully she will consider checking with the Sisters directly to see if they would be appreciative of this kind of promotion right now.

    • KyriaGrace

      The GOOD this Sister does should not be hidden because of a problem with one school, or rather — with the professional homosexual activists who provoked a storm around one school.

      • Lisa Julia

        Let’s try this again…not sure why it didn’t post the first time. You are entitled to your opinion that Sister should be out in the open and in the crosshairs of potential whack jobs. If she were your daughter, would you not want her to be safe? If that means she’s in seclusion till the dust settles then people need to respect that. People need to stop reading into this more than there is. Sister isn’t being shunned or punished or anything of the sort. (i can promise you!) Please consider the Prioress General has reason to believe Sister’s best interests (and safety!) need protection. She’s doing what any mother would do for her child if she is concerned there may be danger.

        • KyriaGrace

          Um, I was commenting on Katrina’s idea of posting about Sister’s video talks that are already up at the Newman Connection WEBSITE, and then Navarricano saying that would be good.

          I’m not sure what you think we are talking about.

          • Lisa Julia

            I have bee posting all over the place and i think my post ended up in the wrong spot (my fault)…

          • KyriaGrace

            No problem. :-)
            But, you know, if Sister or the Dominicans are receiving threats, they should publicise them and also go to the FBI.
            It makes them safer, and it also does the public a service because a lot of people need waking up as to how disordered and extreme the homosexualist activists can be.

          • LisaTwaronite

            I agree that any threats are out of line, and if Sister is receiving them, then she should not hesitate to go to the authorities. But most “homosexualist” activists out here — myself included — would never resort to acts of violence to further our cause, no matter how deeply and passionately we believe in it.

  • pam

    Thanks foe the link to the Newman site. I just signed up & hope to work thru Sisters TOB class. You are doing a good thing defending her & our Catholc faith.

  • Quittin’ time at Tara!

    Let’s judge the Aquinas College statement by what it accomplishes, which happens to be the same identical thing that a petulant teenage petition and the PFLAG activists wished to accomplish: the removal of the source of authentic teaching about the natural law.

    Whenever that happens, guess what? You lose. Assuage yourselves with some sweet storyline about preserving the peace or protecting the fragile little daughter from the wolves. It’s all a load of bosh. In reality, you played and you lost, and you proved to the world that when it punches, you faceplant in record time.

    I suppose it is the same old story of a culture, or religion, in decline: “The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.”

    • Lisa Julia

      Oh please….if Sister Jane Dominic were your daughter, how fast would you move to protect her to from very real threats to her safety and well-being? While you’re sitting up on your high horse pontificating about how the Sisters should have handled this, they are at this very moment teaching and forming the next generation of Catholics without missing a single beat. Cut them some slack and open your eyes to the bigger picture. Even Jesus shook the dust off His feet and moved to the next town when His Teachings fell on deaf ears….

      • Quittin’ time at Tara!

        What exactly were the threats to the safety of this otherwise strong and capable woman, that she needs to be medievally confined? I would do no such thing to my own daughter, and appear to confirm her guilt and error. If PFLAG and morally imbecilic teenagers are satisfied with the outcome, don’t you see that a poor decision has been made? Since when is moral courage demonstrated by doing exactly what your enemy requires of you? Believe me, this decision is highly educative of the next generation. You boldly proclaim the truth, and some teen goofus with computer access, goaded by a cotillion of middle-aged, dilettante leftists with plastic bracelets can erase you from public discourse in one week.

        The question is, do you want to win the culture war, or lose it? Catholicism is not magic. It is taught and fought for with real bravery, consequences… This threat was amateurish. What will happen when the threat is real? More of the same? We all go on ordered sabbatical?

        • Lisa Julia

          Again…i am not going to go into detail in a very public forum about what threats may exist. You do realize there are 300 Nashville Dominicans in schools all across the country, right? You do realize that there are children at these schools, right? You do realize that the more this plays out in the spotlight the more people hear about it who have an agenda, right? Do i REALLY NEED to keep spelling this out????? You are not looking at this the way the Sisters view it, and that is well within your rights. As for throwing your own daughter to the wolves…um..okay…i hope she’s on board with you there….but when Jesus, who had done no wrong, was standing before Pilate, he opened not His mouth. Some may think He should have defended Himself, but He knew better. I believe the Sisters know better too. Can you just be supportive of their decision and pray for them instead of trying to get them to conform to YOUR will? Can you understand that it is God’s will they must obey? I am trying to be as respectful as possible as i promise we are on the same page, but this speculation is useless.

        • Lisa Julia

          PS…i can PROMISE you she is sooooo not being ‘medievally confined’….that is actually laughable. Sister says sabbatical that SHE requested and the world sees her locked under house arrest in a tower somewhere…nope…not how it’s playing out at all…not even close.

  • Eugene Edward Yeo

    I don’t know if you have contat with the good sister, but if she is willing to do a podcast or teach online, I will donate a computer and a good headset to her efforts.

  • gigi4747

    The episode is really an indictment if our priests and bishops. I don’t know what the nun said, but if she truly was simply explaining what the Church teaches, then there would have been no shock and outrage if priests were doing their job.

  • Lisa Julia

    So while at our school’s Mass today attended by 5 of these incredible Sisters, our priest mentioned the continuing saga regarding Charlotte. I wish everyone who is so up in arms with their pitchforks and never-ending speculation could see them as we do and learn from their humble and quiet witness. While social media is buzzing and posting theories and analysis, the Order is going about its daily business of loving and, catechizing wherever their mission leads them. If you follow them on social media, you will see that they are still out there and still have visits and talks planned all over the country. While Sister Jane Dominic is recharging her spiritual batteries on her terms, her Sisters in Christ carry on with their apostolate. As for those saying they wish Sister Jane would just ‘say something and defend herself’, if you look real hard, you will see that she HAS commented about this about a week after the talk in Charlotte. Her comments were so simple and to the point that most seem to have missed them or choose to overlook them because THEY don’t feel satisfied. Instead of voicing how we think this should be handled, let’s trust and allow the Sisters to handle it the way that they know is best.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      I don’t think she needs defending at all because I don’t think she did a thing wrong.

      • Lisa Julia

        AMEN!

  • http://www.facebook.com/fr.petebarnabite Peter Calabrese

    I have known of some national speakers who tape all of their talks to ensure there are no doubts about what was actually said. Unfortunately Sister learned this listen in a tough way. Although I don;t speak nationally perhaps I will learn form this lesson myself. May God bless her and may our people be open to what the Church actually teaches.

  • One More Guy

    It seems to be that the good sister was set up. I mean why would some one send their child to Catholic school and not expect that the school would teach the faith of the Apostles. So, I wonder if this was an opportunity made by people who specifically looked to make a ruckus. Or, it could simply be that she attacked one of our social deities. Namely, sexual deviance.

    • mitch64

      I think that may have been one of the points right there…telling kids who are grabbling with..I will use the term SSA so as not to start a argument on terminology or identity..that they are deviants isnt helping either you or the kid ( I am not saying Sister used that term..but “intrinsically disordered,” is close enough.) While you may feel that is spreading the faith of the Apostles, do you think that kid is going to come to you, or a priest or a nun for help if they feel that you think they are “intrinsically disordered,” much less as you lovingly term “a deviant?” Remember back in the day, when you were first discovering your sexuality…were you supremely confident in yourself and your feelings that you could talk them over with adults., about how to harness that sexual energy in a positive and life affirming way? Add in that you still may have felt uncomfortable with it when the rest of the world was telling you it was okay and normal to be straight. So some kid dealing with these issues walks into a classroom or auditorium is made to sit with his classmates and not only suffer the supreme discomfort of listening to a respected figure tell them they are disordered, and not only that…its because daddy didn’t love them and they are a mama’s boy (I am paraphrasing with a heavy dose of sarcasm. ) So whatever you feel about this issue, do you think that a talk like that is effective? Do you think that the kid is going to run to Father and talk about what is going on inside his head, as it now not only casts him as a freak, but also casts a negative light on his whole family? I see a kid coming out of that more screwed up then ever, and in five or ten years I don’t see him sitting in Mass but dancing on a Pride Parade as nun (once again, I am being absurd to make a point.)

      There is a huge middle ground between “not judging,” and outright condemnation.

      • One More Guy

        You are right, my choice of words was very poor. I allowed my frustration at the seeming public obsession with normalizing sexually disordered behavior, such as pornography and serial monogamy, to do the talking. But, I would like to clarify what I meant. I should have said that people worship the deviant/ disordered behavior. I did not mean to imply that people who had disordered feelings were evil. They can’t help that. It is what people do that matters. Having a temptation is not a sin. I should have checked my language. Thank you.

        • mitch64

          Thank you for the reasoned and classy response. For what it is worth, I totally agree with you (with the caveat that I think that SSA is a natural part of a spectrum of sexuality and we are not doing young gay kids a favor by not giving them spiritual and moral guidance on how to deal with their sexuality..but that is not the issue here and I don’t want to start that debate.) My point is that if Sister wanted to stick to Church teaching for such a young audience she could have followed the theme of “The Church believes that sexuality should be open to the possibility of procreation between a man and a woman who are married and this is why…etc.” Of course, she would say it more eloquently and with more depth.

          I think the pope’s words on “We need to talk about what we are for instead of what we are against,” is what we are talking about in this case. Sister talking about a healthy sexual relationship between two married people and why the Church supports that is more inspiring for young people (anyone for that matter) then “Don’t do this or your goin’ to hell in a handbasket.”

          • One More Guy

            You make a good point. We should talk more about the good. In maters of sex and everything else as well. Sexual Intercourse between a husband and wife is a good and holy thing. And, we need to remind people of that. I just want to say that the problem of negative teaching applies to all forms of morality. We Christians should be known by our joy.

  • Louis Bertrand

    The Dominican Order was founded to promote VERITAS, TRUTH, their motto and combat the negative heresy of the Albigensians who hated matter and sexuality. AQUINAS the school’s patron got his books burned by the archbishop of Paris because he creatively used Aristotle’s philosophy to teach the RC Faith which was novel. God bless Sister Laurel for defying today’s heretics .

  • Guest

    I’m sure the “misguided” sister will get a good hard lesson about how she’s no one to judge.

  • waltercarlson

    It would appear that the homosexuals within the church have a lot of power. This is what the new Pope should be taking care of and not a socialist agenda.

    • KyriaGrace

      This doesn’t appear to be an issue of homosexuals within the Church, but rather, dissenting Catholics and non-Catholics having their kids in Catholic school.

  • Eugene Edward Yeo

    We should have a rotation of slightly disappointed bishops sit in at congress. Just sit there and staaaaaaaaaaaare.

  • KyriaGrace

    Katrina wrote, “I like to think that the parents wouldn’t have dared behave like that in front of their Bishop. I’d like to think that.”

    Katrina, I’m afraid that a parent who would say they have no respect for a priest right to his face in front of a thousand people probably has no respect for a bishop, either. Some of the parents were verbally abusive according to the descriptions I’ve read. I would like to know how many of the families at the school are non-Catholic. They wouldn’t consider him “their bishop,” unfortunately.

  • alanaforsyth

    And why no support for Sister Jane Dominic Laurel?

  • Gregory Peterson

    Why would you support someone who would create unjust minority stress for minority teens?


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