Quote to Ponder: Theology affects Ecology?

Here is a quote I came across while doing research on God’s Mission. It is by: John MacArthur…

The environmental movement is consumed with trying to preserve the planet forever. But we know that isn’t in God’s plan… The earth we inhabit is not a permanent planet. It is, frankly, a disposable planet—it is going to have a very short life. It’s been around about six thousand years or so—that’s all—and it may last a few thousand more. And then the Lord is going to destroy it…. I’ve told environmentalists that if they think humanity is wrecking the planet, wait until they see what Jesus does to it. Peter says God is going to literally turn it in an atomic implosion so that the whole universe goes out of existence. (emphasis added)[http://www.gty.org/Resources/issues/594]

Brief things to think about:

1. Notice how dangerous it can be to misread texts that are writen as apocalyptic and not to be read in a ‘plain sense.’

2. This opens the door for evangelicals to continue to impose the false polarity of Evolution/Science Christian faith, by claiming a young earth.

3. It makes Christian faith irrelivant to a culture of “millenials” that are ready to change the world.

Those are some initial thoughts… please share some of your own!

UPDATE:
Open Source Theology used this post as the basis of a conversation!

http://www.opensourcetheology.net/node/1639

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  • Jeff Zimm

    Man, life would be so much easier if we weren’t called to be such good stewards of all of creation, including the planet.

  • Anirudh Kumar Satsangi

    Science of Religion (Theology)

    I have written following two papers which may lead to the realisation for a higher theory of everything:

    (i) Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator,
    (1st Int. Conf. on Revival of Traditional Yoga, Lonavla Yoga Institute, Lonavla, January, 2006)
    (ii) In Scientific Terminology, Source of Gravitational Wave is God
    (2nd World Congress on Vedic Science, BHU, Varanasi, Feb 2007)
    I have presented these two papers at the two different International Conferences. I am now submitting some views for being considered for Unified Field Theory

    From Scriptures:
    The Current which manifested in the beginning of the creation is the Current of Sabda (Sound) and of Chaitanya (Consciousness). From whom that Current issued forth is known as Soami (Supreme Being). This Current, by turning back can merge again in the Holy Feet of Supreme Being. The entire creation manifested from this current and is sustained with its energy and when the Current of the Holy Feet is withdrawn, the creation ceases to exist.This Current of the Holy Feet is the Reservoir of all energy, tastes and pleasures, knowledge, skill, shapes, forces and light etc. etc. and of the entire creation, is also the Creator of all of them.

    From Science:
    Gravitation Force is the cause of manifestation of the creation (birth of planets, stars), its sustenance and when it is withdrawn towards centre or source the entire creation ceases to exist. Photons have originated from gravitons. In black holes photons merge into gravitons. In Black Holes, Gravitational Force is so high that it does not allow even light to escape. What does it mean then? It simply means that the gravitational force at black-holes attracts light towards it with much greater velocity than the speed of light. In fact, all forces including electromagnetic force, material force (strong and weak nuclear force) all merge into gravitational force in black-holes and becomes one force there and when the creational process starts again from a Black-Hole all the forces appear (manifest) again and descends downwards to create billions of stars, planets, satellite, asteroids and various life forms.

    Hence it can be assumed that the Current of Chaitanya (Consciousness) and Gravitational Wave are the two names of the same Supreme Essence (Seed) which has brought forth the entire creation.

    All cosmological researches should be conducted keeping in view of the following philosophical facts:
    It has been stated in Bible (John I-1) “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God,”
    The Radhasoami Religion also tells that, the ‘Word’ mentioned above is in fact Current of Sound or Current of Consciousness or Prime Current of Spirituality which was issued forth from its Source, or Creator or God. This Current has later on produced light and other forces. The scientists are discussing these days about dark energy which constitute about 96% of the entire universe which is not known to us. Only 4% part of the universe is known to us by all scientific means. In fact this 96% invisible portion of the universe is the vast expanse of spirituality which can be designated as field of gravitational waves in scientific terms. Visible portion of the universe (4%) consists of consciousness (gravitational force), mental force (electromagnetic waves) and material force (strong and weak nuclear force).
    Body = Nuclear Force (weak as well as strong)
    Mind = Electromagnetic Force.
    Consciousness = Gravitation Force.
    According to Radhasoami Religion the whole Universe can be sub-divided into three grand divisions viz.
    1. Region of Pure Spirituality
    2. Region of Subtle Maya
    3. Region of Gross Maya
    Nuclear forces dominate Region of Gross Maya (Gross Material Region), Electro-magnetic forces dominate Region of Subtle Maya (Subtle Material Region) and Gravitational Force dominates Pure Spiritual Region.
    This is the only Truth which can be verified scientifically and can be termed as ‘higher theory for everything’. This also supports the statement of Sir Sahabji Maharaj the goal of science – Truth; the goal of philosophy – Ultimate Reality; and the goal of religion – God are the three names of same supreme essence.
    1. Many things are common between Current of Consciousness and Gravitational Wave.
    1. Current of consciousness can not be seen by any means and gravitational wave can also not be seen.
    2. Current of consciousness is the weakest force on earth. Its strength goes on increasing on higher regions. Gravitational force is also very weak on earth and strong on Sun and even more stronger on black holes.
    3 Tendency of both current of consciousness and gravitational waves are towards their source or centre.
    4. Current of consciousness and gravitational force are both regarded as the creater of all the celestial and terrestrial bodies of the whole universe. They are also sustainer of these and when they turn back towards their source or centre the whole universe will collapse.
    Hence it can be assumed that the source of current of consciousness and gravitational wave is the same i.e. God or ultimate creator.
    This theory is based on scientific deduction. All other theories appear to be work of imaginative thinking and sometimes do not satisfy the criteria of scientific verification. In scientific terms it can be said that the ‘gravitons’ are the elementary
    particle which was issued forth in the beginning of the creation accompanying with sound ‘Radha’
    =====================================

    Mind and brain are two distinct things. Brain is anatomical entity whereas mind is functional entity. Mind can be defined as the function of autonomic nervous system (ANS). It is claimed that mind can be brought under conscious control through the practice of meditation. But how? ANS is largely under hypothalamic control which is situated very close to optic chiasma (sixth chakra or ajna chakra). Protracted practice of concentration to meditate at this region brings functions of ANS say mind under one’s conscious control.

    ANS is further divided into parasympathetic nervous system (PSNS) and sympathetic nervous system (SNS). On the basis of these facts I have discovered a mathematical relationship for spiritual quotient (S.Q.). Spiritual Quotient can be expressed mathematically as the ratio of Parasympathetic dominance to Sympathetic dominance. PSNS dominates during meditative calm and SNS dominates during stress. In this formula we assign numerical values to the physiological parameters activated or suppressed during autonomic mobilization and put in the formula to describe the state of mind of an individual and also infer his/her level of consciousness.

    Protracted practice of meditation under qualified guidance will help to manage all sort of psychological problems.

    Emotional Quotient can also be expressed mathematically as the product of I.Q. and Wisdom Factor.
    Anirudh Kumar Satsangi
    B.Sc., M.A. (Psychology), B.Ed., Adv. Dip. in Mgt.
    P.A. To Director
    Dayalbagh Educational Institute
    (Deemed University)
    Dayalbagh, Agra-282005

  • http://ecumenicalpilgrim.blogspot.com/ Scott

    I have to admit, I have a hard time reading anything written by MacArthur and this quote exemplifies my reasons. The fundamentalist views which he is espousing are deeply destructive to a truly Jesus-minded worldview. It seems that his theology might even be Biblically irresponsible by denying the culture and writing genre of the First Testament books. Beyond that, such a view seems to ignore the original intent of creation. Jesus came to restore all of his creation back to himself. I have to admit, I get a little scared by fundamentalists. I can say that… I used to be one.

    • http://groansfromwithin.com Kurt

      I understand the fear of fundamentalism as well having been a ‘soft fundamentalist’ before realizing that the gospel was bigger than i could have ever imagined! Thanks for the thoughts…

  • http://achorusofehoes.wordpress.com/ Jon

    Nice one…here are my thoughts:

    Its irresponsible for Christians to neglect the care of the environment because it is believed that God only came to save people and that heaven is our destination because the earth will be destroyed. With this, how do we explain God calling his creation good, his mandate to the first inhabitants to rule and subdue the earth (and all things that inhabited the earth) and with that in mind going to the book of Revelation to find the renewal of things; heaven coming down to earth.

    With a hyper conditioned perspective of redemption pertaining to just the salvation of souls, our faith become too narrow. Sort of like adhering to individualism more that to what God’s has in mind.

    • http://groansfromwithin.com Kurt

      Jon,
      You nailed it my blogging friend! You reflect solid theology that is not shared by the church at-large in the world. I am noticing that slowly but surely, room is being made for christians to re-think the Scriptures and allow the pages of that book to ask the difficult questions about ethics… even about the environment itself. This is a frustrating time of transition, but also a time of great hope.

  • http://dkam136.com/ Danny

    Jesus called us to to be good stewards. Part of this stewardship is taking care of the planet

    • http://groansfromwithin.com Kurt

      thanks for the comment and the visit Danny!

  • Shelly

    I am going to die anyway, so why should I shower??? Just kidding. I do think it is important to treat the blessings God has given me with the best care possible. It is just another small way for me to mimic my Daddy and learn to be more like Him.

    • http://groansfromwithin.com Kurt

      I hope you still shower these days… ha ha. Good to have your imput my cuz! Have a great day!

  • http://udoewa.blogspot.com/ Victor

    I agree with you. There are a lot of unintended (I hope they’re unintended) negative consequences of some traditional worldviews. That’s the tough party. I listed some (from McLaren) here: http://udoewa.blogspot.com/2009/01/unintended-negative-consequences-1.html


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