Never again, Auschwicz: Do Not Be Fooled–It Could Happen Here

Interior of the Jewish theater in Amsterdam, now a monument for remembrance of Never Again Auschwitz
Interior of the Jewish theater in Amsterdam, now a monument for remembrance

Do not ever think that we, too, couldn’t have our Auschwitz. All it takes is one unaccountable, autocratic, loyalty-demanding leader. Never Again, Auschwitz

I stood in the place that had once been a Jewish theater in Amsterdam. Bad enough as all Jews were by then excluded from regular stage activities and work. But when the Nazis showed up, they turned the Jewish haven at the time into a registration spot for deportation.

I started weeping. I could not stop the tears, so separated myself from the group to give myself some privacy.

Here, parents saw their children separated from them. The Nazis separated all little ones and placed them in a nursery staffed by Nazis. This action spared those registering from hearing the cries of children.

A few of the smallest of the children were spirited out by some brave Christians and hidden away. A few of them.

The rest . . . ?

The Nazis systematically deported the entire Jewish community living in Amsterdam. Sent them to the camps. Most perished.

They used the already established Jewish council and their records to enable this unusually thorough deportation. The Nazis turned the Jew’s good system of caring for their own against them.

A girl waves to her friend, not knowing she was being registered for deportation to the camps: Never again, Auschwitz

This famous photo above is displayed at the site. A young woman waves to her Jewish friend waiting to be registered, not having any idea that this was the last time she would see her.

Note what she said later:

I could clearly see her explanation of photo in Amsterdam

Yes, she was gone. Along with the rest. Gone.

The Dutch didn’t know what to do with the theater space after the war. They decided to turn it back into a theater, trying to erase the memory.

Finally, the few remaining Jews in Amsterdam demanded a that the Dutch build a memorial there. Now, many leave stones, stones that won’t die so that the memories won’t die.

Just a few blocks from the former theater, this piece stands at a park across the street from the Jewish Museum.

Never Again, Holocaust memorial in Amsterdam

In front of the sign is an expanse of cracked mirror.

Part of the evil genius behind the Nazi genocide: hide as much as possible of their evil actions.

First, they segregate the Jews and take them from their homes and away from curious and caring neighbors. Then they quietly deport them and systematically murder them.

The non-Jews and others spared the horrors either didn’t know or turned their backs what they did know. After all, the Nazis weren’t coming for them. Yet.

But the sky saw, and the cracked mirror reminds us that it did.

And yes, God also saw. And did . . . . nothing?

The sky saw it all: never again, Auschwitz

Perhaps, God did nothing because basic decency no longer existed within Nazi ranks and sympathizers. Perhaps there were too few left who could–or would–find the courage to be the hands and feet of God.

Or perhaps too many said something along the line of “let Hitler be Hitler–he’ll turn around the troubled German economy for us.”

Yes, the same thing people are saying about our current POTUS, “Let Trump be Trump–just leave him alone. See what he can do for the US economy.”

It’s all about a chicken in every pot–even if it means we get our chickens at the expense of someone else’s life and freedom.

We want a dictator/savior
We want a dictator/savior

I am indeed turning political here. Our national leaders matter and they matter a great deal. Leaders without formed character other than the insatiable pits of their needs and their bottomless insecurities will always be extremely dangerous.

Part of what swept Trump in office (in addition to the fact that Secretary Clinton was not a good candidate and ran a poor campaign) was his contention that he, and he alone, could fix what was “wrong” with the US.

These are dangerous words. We have elected a dangerous man with a childish temperament and ability to lead only by bullying and taking others down.

I have no question but that Trump would admire Hitler, were he alive today, in the same way he admires other “strongmen” dictator/leaders of countries, particularly the Russian near-Tzar Putin.

Trump also demands obeisance and adoration from his underlings. So does Kim Jong-un, the current, emotionally immature, semi-god of North Korea who is now threatening the entire world. Here’s a snapshot of what Jong-un is doing to those who don’t toe the line.

What’s the difference between Jong-un and Hitler’s “final solution”? Note, the loyalty oath that Hitler asked his civil servants to make:

Service oath for public servants

“I swear: I will be faithful and obedient to the leader of the German Empire and people, Adolf Hitler, to observe the law, and to conscientiously fulfill my official duties, so help me God.”

Any leader that insists upon loyalty before integrity is a leader preparing for an unaccountable reign of tyranny. Such ones do all in their power to systematically eliminate anyone who might not swear total loyalty to them, i.e., the James Comey’s of the world.

Right now with a free press fixated on every move he makes, we can keep Trump in check. That’s our advantage: the President can do little in the hidden manner in which many of the Nazi atrocities took place.

With no free press in either Russia or North Korea, their atrocities also can remain more hidden. But they are there. And they are growing. Strong men leaders must reign by terror.

For us to say, “Never Again, Auschwitz,” we must remove Trump and those of the GOP who feel Trump’s leadership should continue from office at our first opportunity.

Don’t think it could not happen here. History has a scary way of repeating itself. It only takes a few key people in a few key positions to bring about total political upheaval. We’re terribly close.

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  • Scott

    Wow! I’m not a Trump supporter and I must say, I find this post to be despicable hyperbole. Words like this are what motivate individuals like James Hodgkinson to open fire on republicans at baseball practice. Instead of hating on Trump, try praying for him.

    • Chuck Johnson

      I do not find this story to be “despicable hyperbole”.

      But I do see it as being alarmist.
      The USA is stronger and more resilient than the picture that Christy paints here.

      • Scott

        I’m sorry but the Hitler/Trump comparison is to the point of being pathological. Can we move on from the Hitler comparisons? My position is, it immediately disqualifies the person from being taken seriously. It makes anyone who uses it look like a fool. There literally is no room for discussion with someone who holds this position, except for those who want to validate the authors argument. Progressives seem to be suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.
        I think Trump is a buffoon but a knowledge of history convinces me he is no Hitler. I’ll continue to pray for him, as I have done for every president.

        • Chuck Johnson

          I think Trump is a buffoon but a knowledge of history convinces me he is no Hitler. -Scott

          No Hitler is right, and I’ll go further.
          The American people and the American culture are far removed from what existed in Germany in the 1920s and 1930’s.

          • Scott

            So how do we create a dialogue where people can empathize with those who hold a different position? My social positions have changed tremendously throughout the last two decades and it came from others willing to invest and have serious conversations. How do we get people to say “convince me I’m wrong?” It seems as though everyone is so bombastic and just want to throw out insults. Nobody realizes they are the other side of the same coin.

          • charlesburchfield

            Nothing is more important to a religious addict then “guarding the supply” in my humble opinion.

            Everyone appreciates your honesty, until you’re honest with them, then you’re an asshole- George Carlin

          • Chuck Johnson

            So how do we create a dialogue where people can empathize with those who hold a different position?-Scott

            Thank you.
            The kind of comments that you and I have been making are a step in the right direction.

            A scientific look at reducing emotionalism and increasing truth is posted here:

            The reason that hyperbole sells is that people enjoy getting emotionally stimulated, and they especially enjoy the feeling that they are right while others are wrong, stupid, doomed to hellfire, etc.

            People need to be educated to have agendas that are less frivolous and self-indulgent than this, and such education can be effective.

        • Chuck Johnson

          Christy is observing a certain kind of authoritarianism that is common to Hitler and to Trump. – – – She is alarmed.

          She then extrapolates to a kind of “slippery slope”.

          This extrapolation is something that you and I are not doing, and I think for good reasons.

        • Chuck Johnson

          Reminds me of Barry Goldwater:
          “I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”

          This always struck me as being an odd and extremist way to view liberty and justice.

          Goldwater campaigned for the presidency using the slogan: “In You Heart You Know He’s Right!”

          One comedian countered:
          “In Your Guts You Know He’s Nuts!”

        • charlesburchfield

          My dear scott:
          I’m sorry but your position immediately disqualifies you from being taken seriously. It makes you look like a fool. There literally is no room for discussion with someone who holds your position, except for those who want to validate the Your argument.

          True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country. -Kurt Vonnegut

        • RageHard84

          Sad thing is folks on both sides compare the opposing side to Hitler.

    • RageHard84

      You know, you have a point. I voted third party because I liked neither candidate. However, we probably should pray for him. Maybe we can pray that he will pursue a more righteous way of living.

  • Linda Coleman Allen

    Great article. Speaking the truth is seldom appreciated and often persecuted. People in our country need to wake up and take a clear look at what is going on around them before things are more out of control. No one wanted to pay attention in Germany either until it was too late.

    • Chuck Johnson

      People in our country need to wake up and take a clear look at what is
      going on around them before things are more out of control.-Linda

      There are many people in this country who are waking up, taking a clear look at what is going on around them, and their answer is believe that Trump is the solution.

      When you look at the world through Trump-colored glasses, the world looks like it needs more strong, decisive authority figures.

      This is an old, old story.
      The problem is more complex than your comment has suggested.

  • Al Cruise

    Just to add here, imagine if the conservative evangelical crowd had total control in this country. They controlled the police, the legal system , the military, education, etc, What would this country look like? What would happen to people of other faiths, LGBT people,and people who by their definition are non-believers. I would like conservative evangelicals to answer in clear and precise language please.

    • Guthrum

      Let’s not go off the deep end here. The news media and some politicians are engaged in hysterics and sensationalism. I do not agree with some of Trumps actions but things are better than they were under Obama. I see no racism or hatred except from terrorists and extremists. Look at Europe: terrorist attacks almost weekly. The G20 summit in Germany: protesters commiting violent crimes, destruction, hundreds of police injured. North Korea getting more dangerous by the day. People do not want the problems that Europe is having.
      In the last several months our town has seen a mill re-opened that had been closed for years. Another industry has moved here. New houses are going up. The people here are feeling better and optimistic about the future. Things are picking up.
      It is time for Congress to get moving on tax reform, government reform, secure borders, and getting our industries back.

    • Lilly Munster

      The already have answered that question. They would gladly persecute and KILL LGBT People. They say so.

      • Al Cruise

        Yes. I ask them this question all the time. However they won’t answer in these comment sections with their name attached. Conservative evangelicals are the biggest cowards around when it comes to sharing in detail what their solutions are to their perceived problems. They like to stand and point fingers and be holy than thou, judging their neighbor, but turn into “chicken little” when pressed into sharing openly what they would actually do. As individuals they are total cowards, and will only talk to each other in their churches about what should be done with LGBT people and others they do not agree with. However if they had the political and legal power of a federal government over everyone in the country, as a group with that kind of power they would reap mayhem.

        • Skeptical Realist

          You petty hateful people. It is the Left in the political sphere that is so intent upon imposing its beliefs upon all. Always has, always will. For the most part evangelicals are libertarian in nature. We don’t have any desire to force our beliefs upon anyone. We do view unborn babies as persons deserving of having their lives protected. We don’t want to be forced to serve unrepentant sin.

          • Al Cruise

            “Left in the political sphere that is so intent upon imposing its beliefs upon all. Always has, always will. ” You are not a realist. The conservative right/evangelicals are the the ones who imposed their beliefs with a heavy dose of violence. Slavery and what they did to the native Americans are only scratching the surface. I strongly suggest you take some History classes on those topics before you make any statements with the mantra of “realist” . I will be using your statements with a group college students for them to discern . Especially your statement “We don’t have any desire to force our beliefs upon anyone. “

          • Skeptical Realist

            You mean the history of the Democrat Party? The history of slavery, civil war, the KKK, Jim Crow, lynchings, bombings, opposition to every civil rights bill and amendment for almost a hundred years, the Trail of Tears, the internment of Japanese Americans, colluding with Communists, the overlords for six decades and more of the inner city plantations where people are dehumanized and demoralized, enslaved to the statist overlords, made dependent and kept in return for votes, violent crime allowed to run rampant, women told they’re better off killing their babies, and if they have a child, they’re told that they’re better off without a husband. People told they need special rules cause they’re not good enough to make it on their own. The education system grotesquely in ruin, the family decimated.

            Was that the history you were thinking about?

            And you think Trump is a threat? Wake up.

          • Al Cruise

            “You mean the history of the Democrat Party?” Ok you are really showing your ignorance and inability to understand even basic history of this country. Jim Crow Democarts, KKK and Slave owners are the Trump voting, alt right, white nationalist, Republicans of today. They switched in the sixties during the civil rights movement , Barry Goldwater candidacy. You are not a realist. You are not a skeptic. Fake Facts would be a better handle for you. Are you in that demographic of uneducated whites that will soon be unemployable and quickly becoming a minority because of backwards ignorant thinking ? You were told Jesus would come out of sky and take you to Heaven so what’s the point of education, and you could always rely on the color of skin to get by. Do you really think Trump and his billionaire friends care about your plight? Lets see in a year where the jobs are and what your health care looks like. A suggestion, take some history classes about your country. Political history if you don’t find it to difficult.

          • Skeptical Realist

            You’re mistaken Al, and demonstrably so. All the Dixiecrats stayed Democrats save one, Trent Lott. A greater proportion of Republicans in Congress supported the civil rights act than did Democrats. A Grand Kleagle of the KKK, Robert Byrd, remained a Democrat senator good standing through his death in the 1990s. You’ve been lied to. The entire nation has been lied to.

          • Al Cruise

            I meet with college students, and will be discussing your comment with them. Your statement “A greater proportion of Republicans in Congress supported the civil rights act than did Democrats.” Yes and those democrats and their supporters are all alt right, white nationalist, Trump voters today.

          • Skeptical Realist

            Republicans had been trying to pass the Civil Rights Act since 1865, but it was blocked by Democrats, until 1964. So what you’re contending, that all the bigots magically switched to the Republican Party is a lie. Trump is no bigot. That’s the lie and you’ve embraced it well. But it is a lie Al. The DNC is a massive crime syndicate with a history of incessant lies, hatred, violence, terrorism, bigotry, sedition, treason, and corruption. Do better.

          • Al Cruise


          • Skeptical Realist

            A grand total of three Democrat politicians changed from Democrat to Republican. Class and race warfare is who the DNC is. Killing unborn babies is the new gross injustice so revered by Democrats, because of course they started it as a way to control those darn dark skinned folks. Pure evil. Come to the light of individual (the smallest minority) rights, and free enterprise (no not the crony corporatism that now rules the swamp).

          • Al Cruise

            This is at the very least, equal to the writings of the Russian trolls in the past election. Good work!

    • Dan

      OK, I’ll take the bait. LGBTQ persons should be welcomed into the church and discipled in the Christian faith. We are all totally depraved and no one is better or worse than any other. LGBTQ persons who affirm that characterization as holy and normal should not be allowed to assume positions of leadership in the Christian church. Much the same as someone who abuses their spouse or commits open and notorious sexual liaisons claiming them as no big problem should be disqualified. It’s not about the practices, it’s about affirming them as holy and normal.

      Absent any definable biochemical imbalance or hormonal imbalances or ill defined genitalia at birth, LGBTQ persons should be counseled that their life in Christ is not defined by with whom they have sexual relations. Almost nobody chooses to be LGBTQ, or heterosexual, for that matter. In almost all cases it is a complex series of learned behaviors and experiences. (Yep, there is no gay or transgender gene) Since the Bible states God’s plan for humanity is for a husband and wife to be married and create a family with children, if possible, we should recognize that sexual relations beyond that plan are not holy, although all of us likely sin against that standard. Christ loves us as we are, but loves us so much he does not want us to stay that way,

      OK, let the vitriol begin -)

      • Al Cruise

        ” LGBTQ persons should be welcomed into the church and discipled in the Christian faith.” What about those of other faiths , no faiths and Spiritual/progressive but not religious ? Could they marry? Would they have the same civil rights as everyone else? Or do you think the conservative Christian view point should be applied to everyone across the board?

        • Dan

          Civil rights are a creature of civil law, and as such are not adjudicated in the church. Would a non-Christian be welcome in a Christian church? Of course! But this person would be presented with the Gospel, which would mean they could not simultaneously be a Christian and some other religion. They most certainly would be encouraged to be in church and learn the message of grace and the tenets of Christianity.

          If the civil authorities permit same sex marriage, such married couples can attend a Christian church, but they could not be married there, and membership in the church is not advisable if they affirm same sex marriage, which the church does not. There are many other denominations that would affirm them.

          I, in turn, have a question for you. Judicial decisions have affirmed the duty of business owners to serve all, hence a Christian baker cannot refuse to bake and decorate a gay wedding cake. What should happen if members of Westboro Baptist Church go to a gay owned bakery and request a cake to celebrate a church event and request that the cake be decorated with the phrase “God hates fags and they will burn in Hell.” I would refuse to do such a cake, but in light of the court decisions how could the gay bakers refuse to do such a cake? How about if a gay couple goes to a Muslim baker and request a gay wedding cake. Can the Muslim baker refuse on religious grounds? It gets very complicated, doesn’t it?

          • Al Cruise

            I think we are going on the wrong trail here. What my original question was , what would happen if conservative Christianity had total control over the state in all areas of civil life. This is the parallel that the author is talking about. The Nazis took control of every aspect of life in Germany and we saw what happened. What would happen if conservative Christianity had the identical same control and power in the USA?

          • Skeptical Realist

            It is impossible to separate people from the equation, and people are evil. But is actual disciples of Christ ran all things, it would be wondrous. Love God, and Love People. Prayer of the generic type would be allowed back into school. Abortion would be much more restricted if not illegal. Gender dysphoria would remain classified as a mental/psychological disorder. The traditional definition of marriage would be restored. Civil unions would be available to same sex partners. Freedom of sincere religious conscience would be restored. Totalitarian Islamism would be declared an enemy of the state and subversive towards the Republic. The federal govt would be removed from the role of nanny and caregiver, and return that to the people and the states.

          • ChrisDACase95

            Have you played Bioshock Infinite ? That should give you a good idea how it would play out.

      • ChrisDACase95

        No gay or transgender gene ? No more than there’s no autism gene, but people are still hard wired that way.

        The science that backs that up;

        As for churches afforming gay marriage, learn some history;

  • Dan

    I think your comments could well be applied to the most recent occupant of the White House. A narcissistic man-child, with no real world experience and perspective except those of his communist mentor from his teen age years and his Iranian handler always at his side during his reign. He weaponized the intelligence apparatus of the state to spy not only on his political enemies but also on almost every citizen of the country. His enmity for the Jews, learned from the anti-Semitic vitriol spewed by his long time church pastor even led him to use government funds to send political operatives to Israel in an attempt to topple the current government.

    See, the political fear mongering cuts both ways. I hope a lot of United Methodist laity read your blog and realize that you represent the mainstream of UMC clergy, and I hope that this energizes them to resist, disrupt, and agitate to take back their church from the elitist theocrats that have seized control of it(hey, kind of sounds like the politics of your ilk, doesn’t it!).

    Seriously, you and those like you in the UMC need to find a way to expel the anger and hatred in your heart for those who disagree with your elitist opinions. I do earnestly pray that our sovereign God will grant you peace, wisdom, and the presence of the Holy Spirit to give you a truly thoughtful countenance to serve Him in spirit and in truth.

    • charlesburchfield

      //Ultimate meaning is not grasped once and for all in the form of timeless idea, acquired once and for all, securely preserved in conviction. It is not simply given. It comes upon us as an intimation that comes and goes. What is left behind is a memory, and a commitment to that memory. Our words do not describe it, our tools do not wield it. But sometimes it seems as if our very being were its description, its secret tool.//- Abraham heschel

      • Dan

        One last comment before I depart Charles. I think you should be more concerned about Obama, Soros, et. al. than Trump. Organizing for America, Black Lives Matter, and other associated anti-fa groups are much more like the Brownshirts than pro Trump groups have ever been. My whole issue with this discussion is that UMC clergy are way to quick to jump on political causes and frame them with their own experiential theology that is supposedly spirit guided, as long as it agrees with their own socialist tendencies.

        The church needs to recover a more apolitical stance and stick with speaking on issues that relate more directly to life, liberty and the pursuit of godliness using scripture and (oh my!) the ancient creeds and reformation era confessions. Of course psychopaths like Hitler, Stalin and others can pervert any valid writing. Let’s not forget that the Methodist Church was in bed with the communists and Stalinists from early on in the 20th century, and the Methodist General Conference did not affirm US participation in WWII until 1944. Not something to cover themselves with glory, is it? They were fine with the murderous Stalin, but couldn’t bring themselves to agree with the US striking back at Japan? Please! Most UMC clergy are just committed socialists who want the respectability of a clerical collar to put a religious patina on their views. God bless and bye.

        • charlesburchfield

          //I think you should be more concerned about Obama, Soros, et. al. than Trump.//
          In regard to What specifically?

          // Organizing for America, Black Lives Matter, and other associated anti-fa groups are much more like the Brownshirts than pro Trump groups have ever been.//
          Who told you that? Who are you listening to in your bubble?

          //My whole issue with this discussion is that UMC clergy are way to quick to jump on political causes and frame them with their own experiential theology that is supposedly spirit guided, as long as it agrees with their own socialist tendencies.//

          With respect how do you define socialism?
          What specifically are your tendencies?

          //The church needs to recover a more apolitical stance and stick with speaking on issues that relate more directly to life, liberty and the pursuit of godliness using scripture and (oh my!) the ancient creeds and reformation era confessions.//
          With respect What is your frame of reference for this assertion?
          //Please! Most UMC clergy are just committed socialists who want the respectability of a clerical collar to put a religious patina on their views…//

          With respect Which specific UMC clergy are you talking about? Surely you are painting them all with too broad of a brush in my humble opinion.

          • Dan

            Obama was and is encouraging people to take to the streets and Soros organizations are paying them, e.g., the Craigslist ads and other ads in local “underground” papers looking for protesters willing to travel and participate for an hourly rate and travel expenses. I’m not saying that there are not fringe people on both sides of the aisle, but I don’t remember the Tea Party participating in violent demonstrations when the IRS illegally stonewalled their tax exempt status applications and then leaked taxpayer personal data (a federal felony, BTW) to political groups favored by the Obama regime.

            Socialism, by my definition, is where the state owns the means of production and controls what is produced by telling the population what to do and what to produce and then allows them to keep the fruits of their labors according to what the state decides they should have. As the late Lady Thatcher opined, socialism is the best form of government until you run out of other people’s money.

            My personal belief system is libertarian, moralistic (orthodox Christian) capitalism in a constitutional republic with a definite separation of powers.

            As for the socialistic and communist history of the Methodist Church, I refer you to testimony from the House Unamerican Activities Committee, which you can find here ( and at other publicly available sources.

            I would say that any UMC clergy who are members of MFSA and most of those officially associated the Global Board of Church and Society are socialist either in name or in behavior.

            I’ll agree that the majority of UMC clergy may not be socialist, but what I find even more depressing was a poll of them (search for it on the net, it should be easily found) that found a majority did not agree with the tenets of the Apostle’ Creed; e.g. they did not believe that Jesus was the only begotten Son of God and did not believe in the bodily resurrection.

            We could go on and on but I am genuinely distressed by the chasm between orthodox Christians and what I experienced for over four decades in various UMC churches from the clergy who served there. I saw the changes accelerating starting around the late 1980s and I honestly don’t know how to have a logical, biblically based debate between these differing sides anymore. I just see hearts hardened from emotionally based arguments. Here I confess to being more polemical than I should be in posts due to a feeling of despair.

            I’ve seen the same scenario played out in The Episcopal Church, the Presbyterian Church USA, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, and the UMC.

          • charlesburchfield

            Whoa Nelly! that’s a lot of crap in your head isn’t it? Don’t you know we’re all one in Christ? There is neither Greek nor Jew male nor female now. Get a grip. You’re headed for a breakdown buddy and that’s for sure.




          • Dan

            “A Lot of crap in your head?!” Looks like you’re the judgy one. BTW, we are called to speak the truth in love and hold our fellow Christians accountable. Check your Pauline Gospels on this. Those who have not yet received Christ are not held to a Christian standard, but discipled in love by the Christian community.

            I just happen to see the UMC for what it is. A lot of well meaning people who believe that Jesus loves everyone (true) and does not require you to lead a holy life, rather that your works of social justice will earn you a place in heaven. Remember that for his Methodist articles of religion Wesley removed the article of religion from the Church of England that stated works performed before justification are repugnant to God. There was a reason for this. In his heart, Wesley believed that humanity is to some extent justified by works. I simply find Wesleyan theology lacking and feel it leads many astray as it attracts clergy who would be more suited to careers as social workers rather than proclaiming the Good News to the lost.
            Since many UMC clergy are universalists and do not believe anyone will go to Hell, why bother emphasizing the Gospel over performing “good” works.

          • charlesburchfield

            //we are called to speak the truth in love and hold our fellow Christians accountable.//

            My dear Dan: Thank you for the opportunity to engage with someone who uses clobber texts. I’ve been wondering what specific advantages and privileges those who use this propaganda technique of thought stopping cliche are hoping to achieve.

            I would like to know from you What advantage do you imagine you are getting from using such a technique? in my humble opinion I think you probably fear a lot of people you are disconnected from and there is wisdom and reasons, that you’re not aware of, that are protecting you from being re-traumatized. It may be an opportune time for you to take down the defenses! The fact that you’re here posting on a progressive Channel is maybe an indication that you are ready to take up the task and responsibility for healing from your isolation and paranoia.
            I think that your cultish behavior gives you the illusion that you are in a protective container that confers certain privileges and safety in exchange for total loyalty and willingness to tow a party line.
            It may be time to reevaluate your assumptions and prejudices which amount to justifying your bigotry.
            I appreciate the fact that it’s going to be very difficult for you to give up on your religious addictions. What will be left of you should you enter a stage of grief and loss? nevertheless, when you hit the wall, if you can submit to the Holy Spirit breaking in on your Darkness you will be given an opportunity to unload a lot of crap in my humble opinion!
            That will be a good undertaking for you, I think, to get rid of your preconceived ideas of US versus them. For if all means all We Are All One in Christ.

          • Skeptical Realist

            To be one in Christ, you have to know Christ.

          • charlesburchfield

            Okay. How’s about we are one in something? We Are One In our Humanity. If you cut me will I not bleed? I think suffering is such a trip!! Suffering rejection, depression, pain physical / mental pain!! Oppression from Rich and Powerful oligarchs who run everything, cannot be gainsaid and have no compassion!! And they bleed, suffer, and die. Here is my favorite line from a play called JB by Archibald macleish: ‘I would not stay here if I could except for the little green leaves in the wood and the wind on the water’.


          • rationalobservations?
          • charlesburchfield

            Recalling the unspeakable evils, the brutality, the horror of Auschwitz, Buursma is moved to repeat the soul-searching question of faith-shattering dimensions, asked by Jew and non-Jew alike, “Where was God?“

            There is an additional question to be posed: “Where was man?“



          • rationalobservations?

            All the millions of gods, goddesses and god-men have never been observed in real life and are all considered to be fictional by most of humanity. More people know your god is fictional than believe in it in the same way the you know the gods and goddesses of others are fictional and the third largest and fastest growing human cohort recognise that all gods, goddesses and god-men are fictional.

            As for your question: `Where was man?`

            The christian crusaders of the third Reich were doing their usual genocidal work “for the lord” with “Got mit Uns” cast into their belt buckles and the free, secular armies fighting for democracy were doing their best to curtail that barbarity.

            “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. …Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. …”

            – Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922

            It’s always worth remembering that the ten best educated, most democratic and egalitarian, most loving, peaceful and law abiding nations are also the ten least religious nations in history while the ten least loving, peaceful, democratic and law abiding nations are all religious or very religious.

            The third largest and fastest growing human cohort are the godless non-religious so the peaceful future of mankind appears to be more hopeful.

            Your quote is valid.

            Chris Hitchens wrote: “Religion poisons everything”.
            Fortunately free, peaceful secular democracy has proved (and is proving) to be the antidote to that poison.

          • charlesburchfield

            my dear rational, when you go on paragraph after paragraph of what I’m assuming is pretty much all cut and paste or rather reconstituted from what poisonous sources you read on subjects you wish to show yourself identified and included in a narrative that has possibly commodified your Humanity to fit a demographic that you have been allowing yourself to become indoctrinated and brainwashed by, well, To be honest I think that you have become rather two-dimensional and cartoonish pimp of some class of cult – like propaganda.


          • rationalobservations?

            Oh the irony….

          • charlesburchfield
          • rationalobservations?

            It appears that you are not the only thing in denial.

          • Skeptical Realist

            Being one in love and compassion. Loving others as ourselves. Same thing as being one in Christ. It’s a tiny minority in this world. Many pay it lip service. Few abide in it truly.

            Evil is real.

          • charlesburchfield

            Evil is real but it contains the seed of its own destruction in my humble opinion. Love is the only thing that’s real and permanent I think. Have you ever heard the love is stronger than death?


          • Skeptical Realist

            Have you heard of the Holocaust?

          • Skeptical Realist

            Our humanity? Are you not familiar with the history of humanity? H umanity is generally not worth being one with. Rather than designate ourselves as our own supreme authority, which leads to folly and tragedy, choose Christ instead. Salvation beats damnation every time. It’s our choice. Choose wisely.

          • Six months is a long time to be holding on to something like a conversation on a Blog. How are you today skeptical realist? What’s going on in your life?

          • Skeptical Realist

            Hahah! Thanks for your concern. I’m fine. Just don’t participate a lot on Discus threads, and my Discus profile shows all responses. Yours was near top of the lost. It’s been six months since I last checked.

          • Glad you found me again!! Good day to you sir!!

    • TJ

      Hope you’re in heaven really soon!

    • charlesburchfield

      “I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the
      character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has
      never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred
      years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its
      amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been
      rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be
      built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or
      irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long
      as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.”

      [Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]

      “I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
      the Almighty Creator.”

      [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

      “What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of the
      fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission
      assigned to it by the Creator.”

      [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]

      “Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be
      wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
      a fanatical outlook.”

      [Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, p. 171]

      “It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scale
      propaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychological
      instincts of the broad masses of its adherents.”

      [Adolf Hitler, “Mein Kampf”, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

      • RageHard84

        “Accuse the other side of that which you are gulity.”
        Sounds like something a Flat Earther, white supremacist, or somebody who believes in gay marriage would do. I guess they are like Nazis.

        • charlesburchfield

          Yes there are a lot of shoulds and a lot of should asses in the world!! To be honest I love the fact that there is gay marriage now. Gay people are good people in my book!! gay marriage. Love Is Love wherever you find it or with whom.

          • RageHard84

            Then why do people who support gay marriage show so much hate to people not on their side? Why can’t they disagree respectfully instead of demonizing them?

          • charlesburchfield

            I guess the short answer is that hurt people hurt people. The individuals I know who are gay have been very loving and supporting of me when I have been down and out. I don’t love all gay people. I don’t know all gay people. I consider myself very lucky to have found people that have helped me recover from drug addiction and alcohol addiction. The most supportive and understanding people by far in my life have been gay. They are a very oppressed population. They are not largely accepted in American culture especially. I think this could account for some rage and terrible unhappiness. As I am one of the marginalized myself I understand this and can accept a lot of people whom most people despise. I am despised. I know what it feels like. But the good news is Christ loves everyone. We are all one in Christ. God bless you and keep you safe.

          • RageHard84

            Thanks for answering my question and being respectful. I’m not saying I’d be right to hate back, as Martin Luther King Jr preached that only love can drive out hate. But I’m still bothered by being on the receiving end of hate.

          • charlesburchfield

            To be honest I am too!! It’s sometimes all I can do to be decent to people who harsh my mellow and get in my face cuz they think they own the turf!! The only thing that helps is to follow the program I started 15 years ago in order to stay clean and sober. There’s a lot of dry drunks out there looking to hate on you for an adrenaline rush. But for the grace of God I could be such an I am sometimes. I just don’t have that felt sense of well-being I need 100% of the time in order to treat everyone well. No one does in my humble opinion. But when I lose it I can come back from it now not carry it forward to blow people away the next day!! The holy spirit is real to me and a very present help in time and the temptation to get ugly with people is getting less and less with me.

          • RageHard84

            I guess that’s something I should pray over.

          • charlesburchfield
          • RageHard84

            Interesting quote, reminds me of how oftentimes we view emotion in a negative light in the political sphere. To be fair, feeling instead of thinking can be problematic, and strong emotions can cloud judgment. But emotions themselves aren’t evil.

          • charlesburchfield

            I agree! I think one needs one’s full range of emotions to go along with a good set of brains of logic and experience. Have you ever heard of Robert Bly and the men’s movement he started? He wrote ‘iron John’. Most Men need their emotions healed in my humble opinion. Most men in America have sad broken relationships with their fathers. Mine went through World War II and came home with a PTSD symptoms. He was shut down emotionally. He was a workaholic. I never saw much of him or did much with him even though he lived at home with me and my mom all through my growing up time till I left home left home at eighteen. He was a wonderful worker!! We always had a great garden and fruit trees. A beautiful yard. But I was lonely. Empty.

          • RageHard84

            I’m unfamiliar with Robert Bly.

          • charlesburchfield

            Here’s something short and sweet from Robert Bly to see if you have a taste for what he has on offer. You might want to look him up on Google Wikipedia

          • RageHard84

            I should definitely check this out. Having experienced a horror of emptiness, maybe I am going to find love.

          • charlesburchfield

            Yes! you are going to find love!! The questions you are asking are good. Life is asking you questions and that is good also. Are you familiar with Viktor Frankl? He wrote Man’s Search for meaning. It was one of the first books that ever really helped me. He wrote about his concentration camp experience during World War II.

          • RageHard84

            I’m unfamiliar with him. I will have to look him up.

          • RageHard84

            You might want to see this.

          • charlesburchfield

            What do you think about this video?

          • RageHard84

            It reminded me of our conversation because it reminded me of how I told you that MLK said that the solution to hate is not more hate.

            There’s plenty of hate and identity politics on both sides.

          • charlesburchfield

            Thank you for the opportunity move forward in my thinking about my responses to hate, rejection, betrayal, abandonment, frustration and confusion. I have a lot of hatred for people that have hurt me in the past from lots of experiences that have happened to me that caused me pain. even today I have flashbacks and anxiety symptoms of PTSD. constantly of people who have hurt me. The 12-step program has helped me tremendously to be present in the now and not captivated by what happened to me in the past. I’m getting better at not giving my whole attention and energy to deflecting the pain and Hate, that I can’t seem to find a way to completely resolve, and move on with freedom to act responsibly rather than reactively. Things that happened in Charlotte this past weekend has been on my mind a lot. I’ve been writing and blogging about it since it happened. This activity seems to be helping me not to be so anxious. One of the things I can tell you about my processing a new pain that’s come into my life is that it triggers a lot of old unresolved emotional pain. In the past I used drugs and alcohol to numb the pain. Nowadays I look for people and conversations that move me towards understanding deeper motives why people hate other people and ways of loving people no matter what. I look for opportunities to be inspired to find new and creative ways to do this. I try not to give my power and authority over to anyone except my higher power. I got the concept of a higher power from the 12-step program. I think of my higher power is the person living inside me that loves no matter what. It took me a long time to get to this person that I always was. I have to work a program of sobriety and serenity. I’ve been clean and sober for 15 years. I’m still an emotional wreck!

            Here’s something I found on the web today per your suggestion to look into ways to not be drawn into more Arguments for hate. There might be something here to begin to grasp a foothold so one can open up to this very complex issue and move forward with a positive attitude!!

            Ten Ways to Fight Hate: A Community Response Guide
            August 14, 2017


            In this article

            1. Act
            2. Join Forces
            3. Support the Victims
            4. Speak Up
            5. Educate Yourself
            6. Create An Alternative
            7. Pressure Leaders
            8. Stay Engaged
            9. Teach Acceptance
            10. Dig Deeper
            Hate in America has become commonplace. What can we do to stop the hate?

          • RageHard84

            I’m not completely sure all the solutions. However, I know that we should not be part of the problem by engaging in hate ourselves.

          • charlesburchfield

            That is a lot to know not to hate others or ourselves.
            A big part of my healing begin when I understood that hate fantasies of revenge on people were not going to take me to a good place for my future. The 12-step program emphasizes encouraging others as part of one’s healing of resentment, hatred and addiction. I think you grasp a hold on reality about not hating. Your next move forward to really nail it might be to find somebody in your immediate sphere of influence to encourage today not to hate. This is just a suggestion!!

          • RageHard84

            I guess that’s something to pray on.

    • Lilly Munster

      You demonstrate precisely the delusions and malice that make Christian Fundamentalists so dangerous.
      Obama was an enemy of Civil Rights?
      Trump is your hero?
      You need new delusions.

  • Janice Grupe

    Thank you, Christy, for your strong, truthful words of wisdom. The parallels that exist between America now, and Germany in the 1920’s and early 30’s is frightening. I have read: Timothy Snyder’s book, On Tyranny and now I am reading Hitler’s American Model, by Whitman. So many similarities between the beginning of the Nazi’s and what has been happening here for the past two years. Say something 3 times and it becomes the truth. Before all the nonsense started, I never questioned the validity of our American news people. And I have to mention–ever notice the ever increasing moments when t. gives his strong, upward extended arm salute? It seems Americans would be turned off by t.’s hateful rhetoric and constant lying, but too many Americans don’t seem to care!

  • Rudy Schellekens

    I made similar comparisons since March 2016… And I am a Republican. But apart from that, I am an immigrant, a citizen for the last 11 years. Even though I do not have to worry about being swept up by actions from ICE (I look just like all the other white people in the country), I am extremely concerned.

    I understand the issues with illegal immigrants. It took me a long time, and I am married to an American citizen, both my children are American citizens, and were registered as such within weeks of their birth (overseas).

    Immigration into this country is open to all – but there is a route to be followed. And when you arrive here illegally, you ARE breaking the law. From that perspective, I agree something has to be done to prevent such entrees.

    But I also grew up in a country where the memories of Nazi Germany are still visible. May 4th, at 8:00 PM, the bell rings on the Waalsdorper vlakte, which became the place where resistance fighters would be executed.

    There are open spaces in row houses, where V1 and V2 landed, hundreds of miles short of their targets in England. When new building projects start, contractors have to be constantly weary of hitting unexploded bombs.

    All of that was started through the rhetoric of one man. Hitler identified Jews as being responsible for the deplorable economic situation in post WWI Germany. Not those who actually started the war!

    Trump blames the illegal immigrants for the economic woes – with almost the same rhetoric.

    And the moment you have identified a single group as THE culprit for current woes, you have opened up a possibility of what happened, starting in 1924 Germany.

    • RageHard84

      Agreed. These are as bad as the folks who blame immigrants for California’s public schools being behind a lot of other states – the fact is California public schools are just plain awful.

  • josluizsarmento

    Of course it can happen again. Of course it can happen anywhere. It has happened again and again throughout human history (witness the nearly complete genocide of native Americans in North and South America); and it will keep happening again and again each time we relax our vigilance.

    • Skeptical Realist

      Roughly 90% of native North Americans perished from lack of resistance to diseases, namely smallpox, that Europeans brought with them. To call it a genocide may be accurate in some case, like the Trail of Tears, a policy of Democrat President and brutal slaver, Andrew Jackson, but not in general.

  • Lilly Munster

    Persecution and the rhetoric of physical punishment and violence is already on the rise in this Nation. As in Nazi Germany, it will be the Christians who will again be the murderers.
    The vicious, violent, irrational hatred toward LGBT People has been gathering since their civil rights were recognized. Hundreds of millions were raised to persecute and defeat their Constitutional Rights.
    Who do you think got out and voted for the foul mouthed, sexist, bigot, misogynist Trump? It wasn’t People of Faith, Hope, Love, Peace, Justice and Mercy.
    Every American bigot got out and voted for Trump and Pence, because they promised, time and time again, to PUNISH those they hate. Pence, if he had his way, would gladly send men and women to their deaths for being LGBT. He would.
    Trump and Pence had the support of not only the entire Christian Fundamentalist crowd, but the Klan and all the uneducated, ignorant, hate filled Americans who absolutely WOULD stand by and do nothing if the slaughter began again.

  • Paula S Baker

    Thank you so much, Pastor Thomas. I have been struggling with Facebook Posts after Facebook Posts to send this message to people I believe are Christians. Your article compassionately states all the reasons we must not let our desire to avoid conflict, prevent us from Standing Up Now against dtrumpf and his followers in Congress and throughout America. As I read how the Jewish Community’s own charitable registration lists were used to round up the Jewish population at Auschwitz, I am reminded that just a few days ago the dtrumpf/putin administration demanded that all states turn over their voter registration files.

  • Paula S Baker

    Please read this four times and post to your Facebook Timeline and/or tweet to your circle of influence, including conservative Christians. Thanks and God Bless.

    • RageHard84

      If Donald Trump is the essence of conservatism, then I’m no conservative. He is pro-gay, and hasn’t done anything to get Klanned Parenthood defunded. Not to mention he demeans and degrades those not on his side, just like Flat Earthers, white supremacists, and people who believe in gay marriage.

  • Skeptical Realist

    I was once a never-Trumper. I called him “a moral monster”, then I started to listen to thoughtful people who have known him and worked with him over the years. And I listened to his prepared speeches and his press conferences. And finally I have watched his substantive actions and policies.

    I still cringe at the tweets, but I now understand that to take the man literally is a mistake.

    I just wonder how you see yourself much differently. Here you are all hyperbolic warning that we are very close to another Nazi holocaust because of one man, assigning to him the propensity to perpetrate genocide.

    You ma’am are become the very monster of your own imagination against which you tilt. Shame on you!

  • Brandon Roberts

    no offense but i doubt that another holocaust would happen here (or at least not easily)