The Truth Sets You Free Or Makes You Mad

The Truth Sets You Free Or Makes You Mad September 19, 2018

Why does the Word of God offend so many? Why did Jesus’ words often offend the religious leaders?

He is the Truth

Satan can’t handle the truth. That’s why he is so enraged when the Word of God is taught, preached, or studied. He knows his end is coming, and that his fate will be fast and furious (Rev 20:10), so the enemy doesn’t like to hear the truth, but that doesn’t mean people who refuse to hear the truth are our enemies. We ourselves were once opposed to the things of God because we did not have His Spirit. The Apostle Paul said that “those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit” (Rom 8:5), however, “to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace” (Rom 8:6). That means believers are at peace with God (Rom 5:1), having been justified by Christ, and now there is no more condemnation (Rom 8:1). A person’s mind, without the Spirit of God, “is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God” (Rom 8:7-8). Paul reassures the church at Rome (and all believers) that they (and we) “are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you” (Rom 8:7), but “Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him” (Rom 8:8). God’s children don’t have to guess to whom they belong because it says, “The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God” (Rom 8:16). The Spirit is not in unbelievers so He cannot bear witness to them. The Word of God is written for the children of God, so if unbelievers are offended by it, it shouldn’t surprise us. They’re reading someone else’s mail! 

He is the Way

Just prior to Jesus’ going to the cross, and His subsequent ascension back to the Father, He told the disciples, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6). By Jesus saying that He is the only way to the Father, He is saying that He exclusively is the one and only way. Not a way or one of many ways, but “the” way. If there is one thing that offends people of other religions or people who don’t believe in God, it’s the truth that “there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12), and there is no other way to the Father than through Jesus Christ (John 6:44). It’s no coincidence that the early church was called “the Way” (Acts 9:2), with the author (Luke) even capitalizing it (Acts 19:9, 23; 22:4, 24:14, 22). Regardless of that, people will still get angry at that truth, even though it’s straight from Jesus’ lips. I notice no one gets angry that 2+ 2 = 4, but Jesus said it unavoidable that offense will come (Luke 17:1; John 15:18-25).

Persecuted for the Word

The Apostle Peter said we should “not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you” (1 Pet 4:12), If you believe what Jesus taught, then that’s going to offend people. Again, we should not be surprised by that. When Jesus had just finished speaking to the Pharisees, rebuking them for their making their own traditions equal to God’s Law, “the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying” (Matt 15:12)? I don’t think Jesus was concerned about offending them because He always spoke the truth, but Jesus said to “Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours” (John 15:20). These are not our words that offend, but Jesus’ words. If Jesus’ words offend others (and they will!), it’s not so much the messenger they scorn, but the message. You don’t beat up the postal carrier for delivering your bills, so it is what Jesus said that offends, however, if we believe it and accept it, it will offend people. You just can’t help that.

Expect Rejection

The truth sets you free or it makes you really mad, but we do not ever want to make people mad intentionally. Jesus wants us to rejoice when persecuted for His name’s sake, telling us to “rejoice insofar as you share Christ’s sufferings, that you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed” (1 Pet 4:13), so “If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you” (1 Pet 4:14). Who wouldn’t want that? Jesus said, “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you” (Matt 5:10-12). All we can do is to be “prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect” (1 Pet 3:15). Without gentleness and respect, the truth won’t even matter to them.

Conclusion

We know that Jesus always spoke the truth. He was sinless, and as God, He could not lie, and if He states that He is the truth, the way, and the life (John 14:6), we cannot dispute His Word. People might not like the truth, but the truth is still the truth, even if you have a head cold. Instead of seeing this is a very narrow way, we should rejoice that there is even “a” way! Jesus made the way possible, so at best, there is only one way to the Father, even though there is another way to Christ, but that’s the road you don’t want to take. It is the judgment seat of Christ, so either you believe that Jesus is the one and only way today, or have your own way, but I urge you to reconsider, because that road leads to destruction (Rev 20:12-15). Jesus Himself said we must “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few” (Matt 7:13-44). Jesus gives one of the most sobering warnings in the entire Bible in Matthew 7:21-23, saying, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.” One way or another, believe or not, “at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father” (Phil 2:10-11). It is far better to do that today than at the judgment (Dan 12:1-3). Besides, it doesn’t matter whether you believe it or not. It’s still true. He is the only way. You’re entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own truth (John 14:6). Jesus is, and He alone the way, the truth, and the life.

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is Pastor of the Mulvane Brethren Church in Mulvane Kansas. Jack is a writer at Christian Quotes and also the Senior Writer at What Christians Want To Know whose mission is to equip, encourage, and energize Christians and to address questions about the believer’s daily walk with God and the Bible. You can follow Jack on Google Plus or check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

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  • Glory

    Thanks for the good teaching, Pastor. Faith is supernatural. It is amazing that so few unbelievers detect it’s supernatural quality with all the persecution against believers in this world yet many believers endure in their faith in spite of it.

    Even on this board bitter persecution occurs when unbelievers engage in verbal stone throwing i.e. insults. That’s one reason why you don’t argue with them. Why reason with someone who has already demonstrated his intention to persecute you ? He is not argument worthy as his mind is made up as demonstrated by his insulting approach to others different from himself.

    You would think they would realize the supernatural quality of faith which God trains His children to wear like an armor cf. Ephesians 4.

    But they don’t due to their stone cold spiritual blindness that they ought to cry out to God to relieve before subjecting others to their antics.

    Thanks for demonstrating the supernatural quality of the faith that God has given you on this blog, Pastor.

    Most unbelievers aren’t so observant about the supernatural quality of faith. They are too busy trying to tear down God’s work to notice. If they do notice they misclassify it as dogmatic but it is not. Faith is supernatural it merely looks dogmatic. Once you seize on the truth why give it up or deny it for people with mere opinions?

    God bless to everyone reading!

    • pud

      Demonstrate anything supernatural…waiting…waiting….

    • HpO

      “you seize on the truth”? It doesn’t work like that.

      • Glory

        Spare me the lecture. I know one is convicted by the Holy Spirit.

        I meant seize as in apprehend.

        • pud

          No, you do not “know” anything…you “believe” absurdities and close off all and any rational thought

        • HpO

          Bible references, please

          • Glory

            For what? What are the references without the gift of discernment?

            See Paul. He said to pray for all the spiritual gifts. But we still have to use them.

            People need to run for God more and use everything they have. Don’t let the Bible stop you. It is a guide.

          • Pray for all the spiritual gifts.

            Goomedepalista samaritalia de bogalistratim du bolina.

            Speak in tongues.

            I just made it up but some Pentecostal or Charismatic crackpot will try and interpret it.

          • HpO

            Give me scriptures by chapter & verse with the teaching that “you seize on the truth … as in apprehend”.

          • Glory

            I don’t know you. Nor do I have to supply you with things on demand.

            Goodbye.

          • She prays for the spiritual gifts. Good luck. These are just made up because there is no god, so there cannot be any spiritual gifts.

            Gumme telaki tianisha del murruwanosime.

            Wow! Did you just receive the gift of tongues?

      • Glory

        Would you please stop posting towards me. I am not going to get into a spiritually prideful battle with you on this board. When you come across the way you do as if you are the only authority on God in this world it smacks of spiritual pride.

        You might have a critical spirit, too, that you need to ask God to remove.

        Do you evangelize? I do. That impulse to do so comes from God.

        You had better check yourself for a spirit of error and the unteachable spirit also because you shouldn’t be publicly nitpicking with another believer.

      • Glory

        Colossians 2:8

        English Standard Version
        See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

        • HpO

          Wait, what? “See to it [says Colossians 2:8 that] you seize on the truth”? No, it doesn’t say that at all. On the contrary, without any twisting like what you’re doing to it, that verse says, “See to it that … philosophy … empty deceit … human tradition [and] the elemental spirits of the world … [do not] predatorially carry you off as prey, captive and spoil [sylagohgohn]”! Can the prey, captive and spoil “seize on the [plunderer]”? Seriously? Of course not, You Silly, Silly Girl. But that’s what you’re claiming that Colossians 2:8 teaches, that “you seize on the truth”, when in fact, like I’ve told you from the beginning, “It doesn’t work like that.”

          • Glory

            I didn’t post that verse to explain “seize” or “apprehend”.

            Please stop posting towards me. We have a communication problem in this medium.

    • Breathe! Just breathe! Breathe deeply in and deeply out! Breathe slowly and you will calm down! You are full of inner turmoil and need to breathe slowly and deeply. Forget the bible and breathe deeply. There is no Word of God. There is nothing supernatural. Just breathe in naturally and slowly and exhale slowly and you will find the peace that you are looking for.

      • HpO

        So why are you not in “peace”, then?

        • What makes you think that I am not in peace? Breathe! just breath in and out deeply. You will find the peace that you are longing for.

          • HpO

            Prove it, this “peace”, in 24 hours. GO.

          • You try it for a couple of weeks and see if it is not true.

  • Glory

    For personal spiritual edification google and read “Receiving God’s Love” on bibleverses.com.

    • pud

      Summer reading for and by psychotics

  • pud

    Well jack..I’m happy to answer your questions..

    1. IT IS NOT THE WORD OF ANY GOD! It is the words of ignorant religious zealot savages from a time of great superstition and ignorance…a time you relish to return to

    2. jesus “said” NOTHING….it is a STORY BOOK written in a clear storybook style. There was NO ONE taking dictation, the sun didn’t stand still in the sky, donkeys don’t talk and demons don’t possess pigs!

    3. You DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING OF WHICH YOU SPEAK! You believe an ancient BOOK! Period, full stop. Knowledge is supportable with EVIDENCE. In all things and in everything TRUTH is demonstrable not decreed! A point you’ll never get being so gullible and hopelessly indoctrinated by this cult

    • HpO

      “p.u.d.”? Oh you mean:

      petrified? Yup.
      unhinged? Yup.
      despondent? Yup.

      “pud” is petrified, unhinged, despondent – and I don’t care.

      • pud

        Not an argument…try again..try harder

      • Glory

        If you are wise you won’t feed the troll and will bless him then block him.

        It’s best not to give attention to evil attention seekers.

        Imagine where the world would be today if it could have blocked Hitler from speaking. His evil ideas would not have been transferred to others.

        pud has demonstrated via free speech that his attitude is evil many times.

        Now it is time for Christians to exercise responsible free speech by obeying Jesus and taking every thought captive and that includes not listening to pud.

        Save yourself a headache now by blocking him.

        • Breathe deeply! Calm your spirit down! Just breathe and find the peace that you are longing for.

          • HpO

            That’s a Hindu and Buddhist Technique. You speaking from experience? And it works?

          • I’m not a Hindu nor a Buddhist. I’m an atheist. It works! It is true that Buddhists and Hindus use this technique but they are not alone. Some Jews, some Christians and some Suffi Muslims as well as some agnostics and some atheists practise deep breathing.

            Just breathe deeply and you will find the peace that you are looking for. No holy books, no priests nor immans nor rabbis nor religious gurus are needed. No churches, no temples, no synagogues nor mosques are required. Just practice kindness to those you meet on life’s journey.

            Just breathe in and out slowly and deeply and you WILL find peace within.

          • HpO

            Prove “it works!”, please. How can “peace within” it possibly be.

            You also have 24 hours to provide the evidences.

          • Try it for a couple of weeks and see.

        • pud

          Yes! Follow the cult! Do not think! Do not face critique! Stay true to the absurd!

          • Which district in California or New York do you represent?

        • HpO

          And what’s your advice to Jack Wellman, this Evangelical Patheos Blog’s owner and administrator – “if [(1) he’s also] wise [about] the troll … [(2) knows what’s] best [for] evil attention seekers … [(3) can] imagine … block[ing] Hitler from speaking … [(4) and] exercis[ing] responsible free speech” ?!?!?!

          • Glory

            Jack Wellman is a wonderful man. I do believe he wants to see atheists saved as do I. Probably there are few people in this world more dedicated to saving them than he and I. I have been on to many atheist blogs for many years trying to save them and Pastor Wellman is patiently persevering with them as a true evangelical is.

            But the truth is there are just too many of them determined to verbally abuse Christians when they think they can get away with it online anonymously.

            Wellman and I and many Christian apologists are atheists’ greatest friends because we want to give them Jesus who is everything.

            Can you do any better than help a person get Jesus? I do not think so.

            But like I said too many atheists display signs of xenophobia that I think atheism may be a form of xenophobia that goes undiagnosed because of the arguing and misperceptions that atheism is merely unbelief. Yet too many atheists are overly reactionary like bullies and bullying is oftentimes rooted in deep seated anxieties like xenophobia and creates an outgroup and ingroup mentality.

            Christians are evangelical so we seek to love everyone and put them in touch with Jesus.

            So many atheists need to examine themselves for their unrealistic deeply rooted fears and realize God is for them not against them.

            Sin has done a deep number on their psyches like it does on everyone.

            But how can a Christian help someone who refuses to deal with himself?

            Pray for them but don’t let them character assasinate you. That helps no one.

            If you doubt the dangerous xenophobic quality some of them have then read up on the political crimes of the Militant Society of the Godless.

          • Jack Wellman

            I am praying for them to be saved. Even a Saul can become a Paul by God’s Spirit.

          • pud

            37 dead from hurricane Florence which ravaged the Carlolinas…How many of them were praying christians do you figure jack? Did your invisible undetectable “god” choose to ignore them or did he willfully allow them to suffer and die? Why should your invisbile undetectable “god” thingy answer your prayer to “save” someone while letting other praying good christians drown horribly?

            Huh jack? Can you think of a stupid make believe way to rationalize this? How about the classic…”god works in mysterious ways” or “our ways are not his ways” LOL How can you be so absurd and still function?

          • Glory

            Yes, some do convert.

          • HpO

            Well, then, as to blocking pud or not, I’ll follow your advice to Jack Wellman and throw in the garbage your advice to me.

          • Glory

            Do what you want to do.

          • You need to breathe, deeply and slowly! You need to calm down. You are a cultic troll and your ideas are dangerous to society. You pontificate upon atheists, but you know little about them. You make false claims and are a liar for Jesus. Well done! You are doing a good job at creating atheists by all the venom and bile that you spout and the falsehoods that you tell.

          • You are either extremely ignorant or deliberately misleading about atheism. Most ordinary people who are atheists are people who are kind and compassionate towards those with whom they disagree. But when people like you deliberately fan the flames of discontent by continually making misleading statements, you ought to be called to account.

            It is NOT okay to lie for Jesus. It is not okay for you to assassinate the character of atheists with false statements. You claim to be persecuted because atheists try to bring you to account for your falsehoods. You Fundamentalist Christians are giving Christianity a very bad name.

            If you are a typical Christian, why would anyone want to become like you?

          • Glory

            Some atheists lack empathy. Arguing just appeals to their wheelhouse which is logic.

            But what is brains without love which is social intelligence.

            Rather than argue with them encourage them to put their hearts with God through spiritual music.

            Imagine the empathy they could develop with the right songs communicating good heart messages to them like Steven Curtis Chapman’s When Love Takes You In. You can hear it on YouTube.

          • Breathe! Just breathe deeply and slowly in and out!

  • HpO

    It’s too bad this essay on truth didn’t explore the subject of truth further. Otherwise it would’ve come across this powerfully life-changing verse in Ephesians 4:24:

    “ενδύσασθαι τoν καινoν ανθρωπον τoν κατα Θεoν κτισθέντα εν δικαιοσύνn τnς αληθείας.” – in the original Greek – pronounced “endysasthai ton kainon anthrohpon ton kata Theon ktisthenta en dikaiosynee kai hosioteeti tees aleetheias”.

    Wanna get a handle on what our apostle Paul really meant by those words of the gospel? Voila & literally:

    “Put on the new humanity that’s in keeping with the way only God has by fiat created you in both righteousness and holiness that are supposed to be sincerely and matter-of-factly true-in-reality.”

    Question is: Is all that true of us born-again Christians today?

    Answer: No way [pun] – even though, like this article claims, “Just prior to Jesus’ going to the cross, and His subsequent ascension back to the Father, He told the disciples, ‘I am the way [pun], and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me’ (John 14:6).”

    • pud

      “paul” was a murdering religious lunatic who had psychotic visions…who wrote 7 letters to the cult….and you craft your entire life around someone you don’t and can’t know who is no different than the dude in the subway holding a sign that the “end is near” Unreal that any adult could swallow this tripe

      • HpO

        Here’s my request for proofs from you for:

        (1) “‘paul’ … had psychotic visions”

        (2) “‘paul’ … is no different than the dude in the subway holding a sign that the ‘end is near'”

        You have 24 hours. GO.

        • pud

          Document anywhere at any time where anyone has claimed to be blinded by light and beheld a giant jesus and it was shown to be factual and demonstrably true… provide evidence to support this claim

          Claims are claims and assertions are assertions….you, your cult and this religious lunatic “paul” are the ones making the extraordinary “claims”….show that they are true

          Bonus….rationalize why you and the rest of your cult aren’t insane for accepting as true the claims from an ancient storybook

          • HpO

            12 hours left remaining for those proofs, please.

            Proof or poof!

  • pud

    “Satan can’t handle the truth. That’s why he is so enraged when the Word of God is taught, preached, or studied. He knows his end is coming, and that his fate will be fast and furious”

    This is a statement that only a certified lunatic could make.

    That invisible undetectable agents exist and are engaged in some ridiculous titanic battle whose end is known but is acted out anyway….is something only the most delusional, indoctrinated, superstitious, infantile crazy person could consider as a version of reality

    To call this gibberish “truth” is an insult to the word. It is mindless insanity no different than any adult claiming that gnomes and elves exist.

    This is the true horror of religion…that people by the billions can believe what only lunatics could believe on their own. SH

  • pud

    “People might not like the truth, but the truth is still the truth, even if you have a head cold.”

    Tell everyone jack how you “know” what is actually true and what is not. Your (and everyone else’s) “beliefs” do not matter. “TRUTH” is demonstrable, testable, measurable and comports with reality. Show everyone how ANY of the gibberish you regurgitate from your storybook is actually TRUE..for example…do donkeys talk and how? Or how the sun could stand still in the sky? These are “claims” you make…show that they are actually true…waiting coward…waiting…

    • Not always. All Truth does not conform to the rules of the scientific method. For instance, using the SM, prove any unique historical event.

      • pud

        I never mentioned the scientific method did I? Science however is the most reliable pathway to truth mankind has ever created. Understand…in science as well as history there are no such thing as “proofs” “Proofs” only exist in mathematics, logic and by definition. Science and history deal in probabilities. Probabilities that can approach near certainty but probabilities none the less. Religions…all 10,000 that lunatics have created can do nothing but claim and assert. They offer NO pathway towards truth whatsoever

  • Glory

    A quote by Soviet atheist Yaroslavsky displaying his xenophobic thinking which he put into action:

    In 1929, the Second Congress changed the society’s name to The Union of Belligerent (or Militant) Atheists.[13] At this Second Congress of Atheists, Nikolai Bukharin, the editor of Pravda, called for the extermination of religion “at the tip of the bayonet.”[18] There, Yaroslavsky also made the following declaration:

    It is our duty to destroy every religious world-concept… If the destruction of ten million human beings, as happened in the last war, should be necessary for the triumph of one definite class, then that must be done and it will be done.[19]

    Quote above taken from wikipedia’s League of Militant Atheists entry.

    • HpO

      The rest of that has this to say, however:

      “With the outbreak of the German-Soviet War, in the summer of 1941, the Soviet state reduced its anti-religious activities in an effort to make use of the Russian Orthodox Church as an institution to rally the population to defend the nation. The journals Bezbozhnik and Antireligioznik ceased publication and the League of the Militant Godless [LMG] fell into obscurity. … In order to gain support for the war effort (both domestic and foreign), Stalin ended the antireligious persecution and the LMG was disbanded. Internal pressure to end the persecution came from the need to win the loyalty of religious Soviet citizens for the war effort, while external pressure came from the Allies, who would not support Stalin if he continued the campaign.”

      Source: Wikipedia, where else.

      • Glory

        Are you dumb as a box of rocks? You just proved defrocked priest atheist Stalin was manipulative on top of being a psychopath.

        I am about to put you on block for this.

        Don’t defend Christianity you might do more harm than good.

        Manipulation is something a lot of atheist online trolls engage in. They pretend to be rational to lure you in then the verbal abuse precedes when their short fuses go off.
        If they were not brought up right they lack the Fruit of the Spirit of self control.

        If you don’t understand the psychological arguments against atheism then be quiet.

        • It is idiots like you who give people short fuses. You make wild allegations that have no basis in fact and expect people deluded by your cult to accept them. It is you who lacks the fruit of self control, you cult troll.

        • HpO

          “The psychological arguments against atheism” – what’s that?

          • Glory

            I am not going to be able to discuss this in detail because I am not feeling well and don’t want to get snappy with you.

            Many atheists think believers are mentally ill which runs counter to the professional opinion of the psychiatric community.

            You have people like Dawkins and Harris who think their polemics against believers is justified off of hack psychological opinions that they hold.

            I have actually been trolled several times by atheists online who display a lack of empathy and psychopathic/xenophobic tendencies so I know this exists.

            This is a new area that needs more research but doesn’t seem to be getting done.

            All the spiritual blindness and deliberate self deceptiveness and getting offended at God’s Word must have the sin nature as it’s source and will manifest in many bad tendencies such as xenophobic or psychopathic and other negative behaviors.

            I even read an atheist recently in a personal article deploring the xenophobic strand in atheism.

            There is a lot more to think about on the psychology of religion. Certain learned attitudes that Christians learn are very benevolent like gratitude. But atheists just blow off these benovolent attributes that believers have in favor of making sweeping negative psychiatric generalizations against Christians while turning a blind eye to atheism’s crimes around the world.

    • We should not confuse Communist atheism with atheism in general. Communist atheism was based on the theory of dialectical and historical materialism. Many atheists do not subscribe to this philosophy. Some subscribe to humanism which recognises the dignity of the human person.

      These Communist atheists created horror with mass murder of opponents to their regimes. They were able to commit such murders because political and economic power was concentrated in the hands of the Soviet elite. Where Communists lacked the power to do so, they were unable to carry out these actions.

  • barry

    I’m an atheist.

    But I’m not angry at Mormons. And I’m also not angry at conservative protestant evangelicals who believe in the Trinity, the bodily resurrection of Jesus, salvation by grace through faith, and bible inerrancy.

    I think what you are missing is that the “anger” of non-Christians comes about, usually, when a religious person goes around beating people over the head with the bible, trying to stuff Jesus down everybody’s throat. That’s an insult to our intelligence. Here’s an example:

    Suppose a Mormon insulted your intelligence the way you insult the intelligence of atheists. Suppose the Mormon gets on a high horse and says “You *know* the book of Mormon is the word of God, you just don’t want to admit it because you don’t like the idea of being accountable. Like a child, you prefer a free gift instead of proving yourself worthy through works. The evidence for the divine authenticity of the Book of Mormon is there, you just don’t WANT to believe it!”

    You fight back with all of your anti-Mormon arguments. The Mormon walks away, with self-congratulation, knowing that when the light of the glorious gospel is shined upon those who are in darkness, naturally, the people in darkness rebel against the truth.

    So…do you push back against such Mormons because you are filled with Satan?

    or because such Mormons are insulting your intelligence with their childish ignorant dogmatism?

    Now you know why most atheists get ‘angry’ at Christianity and the bible. In all truth, it isn’t really the bible and the religion, per se, it is the assholes who use these things as a bully pulpit to insult our intelligence.

    I suppose if you went around screaming that atheists know perfectly well that the story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears is true and we just don’t want to believe what God has graciously revealed, we would also respond with a measure of anger. Same thing if you started pontificating about how we know that the earth is flat but we just don’t want to submit ourselves the truth. That would not even remotely suggest that we prefer the darkness and hate the light. Our anger draws from something no deeper than our feeling that our intelligence has been insulted.

    So when atheists bite back at you during a debate (I wouldn’t, I conduct my formal debates in civil manner), don’t be like a Mormon, and blindly assume this can only be Satan. Human beings wouldn’t like having their intelligence involuntarily insulted in ANY context. There is nothing about the Christian/atheist debate context that remotely suggests there is something more spiritual and sinster going on there than there is in the name-calling that occurs in kindergarten.

    I have an anti-resurrection argument that will kick your ass around the world 7 times before it even knows it hit anything. If you feel like the spiritual warrior you fancy yourself to be, agree to debate me on it. It’s an argument that isn’t covered by Mike Licona, Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, Frank Turek or any of today’s premiere apologists/resurrection scholars. barryjoneswhat@gmail.com.

    Have a nice day,

    Barry

    • Glory

      To argue with you would actually be a disservice because it gives the false illusion that you have something of value to say while the Prince of the Power of the air cf. Eph. 2 deceives you into forfeiting your most basic human right which is the spiritual right to be born again that Jesus discusses in John 3.

      Why would you put God on trial publicly after learning evil human opinions without genuinely seeking to know Him and learn His perspective?

      Read Luke 6:45. Evil people bring forth evil and good people good depending on their heart condition.
      Thus it becomes imperative to learn from the most Holy Source which is God.

      Don’t let Satan deceive you. Repent and call out to God for help.

      This is the spiritual world of deception with it’s own rules and science has not unlocked a single rule in the spiritual realm.

      Don’t be a chump. Master God’s perspective and have a care for your soul. Nobody else will care for your soul if you don’t.

      Have a blessed day and may the love, joy and peace of Jesus come to dwell in your heart.

      I no longer argue the Gospel because I prefer delivering it.

      • barry

        If a Mormon, Jehovah Witness, Christian Scientist, or anybody else you deem to be a “heretic” had used all those excuses to decline YOUR challenge to their beliefs, would you find it the least bit justified?

        No. You’d recognize them for the irrational frightened barking dishonest children that they are. You’d know those excuses to dodge the merits were nothing but face-saving rhetoric. You cannot blame the onlookers for suspecting that the people in the bible who gave you that excuse were just as weak-minded as you. Paul did not say you must avoid heretics after a second warning (Titus 3:9-11) because he was inspired by God, but because he knew that attempting to defend Christianity from scholarly attack was doomed to failure.

        In a few years, when your brain starts fizzing differently than the way it does now, and as a result you become motivated to change your ways and quit running from challenges, you’ll know how to contact me. Until then, back under your conveniently protective rock, you bold spiritual warrior. What’s next? Real men cry into the sky?

        You are really wonderful, you can actually get an atheist to pray: “Father, please teach “Glory” to learn how to distinguish his/her own thoughts from your thoughts, because she has apparently forgotten what it means to be a sinner and what it means to be sinless.”

        barryjoneswhat@gmail.com

        • Glory

          Thanks for proving my point about why you don’t debate online.

          So much for all the good will and reasonableness you promised in your first post.

          You are just another xenophobic, psychopath like many atheists trying to force debates.

          It did not take but one post by me to reveal your stripes.

          I am an evangelist. We exhort.

          Apologists debate but my debating days are over. There is no shame in that as I am confident enough to do what I prefer.

          You sir are most likely a blasphemer and if God won’t deign to give you the gift of faith then why should I try to reason with you?

          Try appealing to God and repenting for a change.

          I am not a man either and as I am in the hospital ER at the moment you are lucky to get a reply at all.

          May His Grace Abound To You!

          • Breathe! Just breathe. Sam Harris recommends that people practice meditation. This can be done by religious people as well as by agnostics and atheists. Although it is not every person’s cup of tea, it might help you to break the shackles with which your cultic religious beliefs have bound you. Deep breathing will FREE you.

        • Glory

          One other thing, consider atheism a mere label. One that handicaps you.

          What could you do or become with the love that comes from God ablaze in your heart?

          A lot more than you are now sitting on message boards attacking and insulting believers because God is an enabler!

          He is your greatest encourager and right now I am one of your best friends because I know to tell you that you are loved by God.

          Now stop! Stop right now and consider. How stupid it would be to spurn God’s love for the evil arguments of men and the corruptible trappings of men.

          Don’t be a weak willed man and throw God under the bus for all that temporary worldliness.

          When your parents or spouse forsake you or die then God will always stand by as friend just like Christine Jackman’s singing on YouTube of Psalm 27 says.

          So you consider. Don’t argue. If you come back arguing I will put you on block because you don’t cavil at God’s love. It is too great a love and relationship to have.

  • DDRLSGC

    Bosses don’t like to hear any kind of truth.