Josh Duggar – Child Molestation Godly, But Porn & Ashley Madison is Not?

Josh Duggar – Child Molestation Godly, But Porn & Ashley Madison is Not? August 19, 2018
Screencap I did several years ago of Josh with a Vagisil ad right next to him. Too bad it wasn’t for Massengil douche.

Yes, yes, I know I am beating an ancient dead desiccated horse here. But someone pointed out to me recently that the fervent defense of Josh Duggar by Always Learning’s Lori and Ken Alexander had been pulled in the wake of his Ashley Madison exposure in August 2015. I could not let that pass unnoted. This is from the blog My Roots at Home from a post titled “It’s True – Sometimes Christians Do Shoot Their Wounded” by an author Jacqueline. It was posted a few months before the Ashley Madison scandal broke and she quoted Lori and Ken. Their original posting is gone now from Always Learning but still up at My Roots at Home. It was titled “Washed in the Blood of the Lamb” Guessing there’s not enough washing in the blood of the lamb for pornography usage, infidelity and cavorting with adult entertainers. For your information and to document that this did exist:

So somehow committing a crime is  perfectly fine and Jesus forgives you, but doing something perfectly legal over the age of 21 is unforgivable? I don’t get it. Where are all those love the sinner people that were defending Josh for molesting his sisters?

Has anyone heard how Josh Duggar is doing now that we’re three years post scandal? I notice he is still keeping a low profile and the Duggars haven’t tried to push him back into the spotlight. Wherever Josh is I hope he’s doing well and treating Anna better than he did.


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  • Tawreos

    Last I heard he was a car salesman now and while I hope he got his problems worked out there is almost no chance in hell that he is treating his wife any better, his upbringing and the culture he lives in will not allow that.

  • Aloha

    It seems like the scandal has actually pulled him further into his parents’ control. Now he seems to mostly go out when accompanied by the entire family, as if he’s adult-grounded or something.

    My opinion is that the extreme sheltering and sexual restriction is what caused his problems in the first place. More sheltering and more sexual restriction is not the cure. I’d have recommended he separate from his wife, to go explore the world and live a little. You can’t repress yourself forever.

    Here’s a recent sighting … https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/josh-duggar-transformation-131162/photos/joy-anna-duggar-austin-forsyth-247251

  • Jennny

    On P/NR there’s been a lot of posts and comments about the Pennsylvania abuse report. Folk have pointed out that the most likely contributing factor to someone becoming an abuser are if they have been abused themselves or grown up in a very sexually repressed atmosphere..seems Josh fits that exactly.(abusers are NOT NOT NOT non cis-gender people, not LGBTQTIA, and being in any of those categories does NOT make you a pedophile as I’m sure all of us here know.)

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Thanks for that. I remember when this went down with Ashley Madison I wrote a post explaining how QF extreme sexual repression created Josh’s problems and a bunch of people thought I was excusing him instead of just trying to explain how what happened to him was a product of how he was raised. I sort of feel sorry for Josh. He looks pretty terrible in that photo, like someone struggling with depression and other issues.

  • Jennny

    I agree. when the story broke, I also couldn’t get his poor wife out of my head, she’s a victim too and must have been so shocked (assuming it was news to her) and with her narrow fundy upbringing, have no life skills at all or the possibility of wise counselling about her disgusting husband and her predicament and that of her 4(?) small children. I so hoped she’d be able to escape, that others could gain her trust and help her start over miles from Josh…sadly that hasn’t happened, poor woman. Oh for a magic carpet to go to rescue her and her little ones, and give them sanctuary in my spare bedrooms and give her a support network and show her she needn’t be enslaved by the despicable in-laws for the rest of her life – or continue to keep popping out babies for them.

  • Aloha

    Yeah, I also got slammed online for putting blame on the Duggars’ culture, which was perceived as taking blame off of Josh.

    But I do think Josh has a stilted experience growing up. Perhaps given legitimate opportunities for sexual exploration, he wouldn’t have behaved so badly.

  • SAO

    The values the Duggars demonstrate are quite different from the what they preach. Sure, they talk about grace, love and family, along with misogyny (ie submission and purity). But they demonstrate that *looking* Godly is more important than actually acting on their values. They treated Josh’s actions like a public relations issue, not like a sin or crime. They certainly didn’t do anything to help him better control his urges and they did nothing to help his victims or sisters.

    By the Duggars’ idea of purity, Josh’s sisters were no longer pure. Yet, their weddings were giant Potemkin villages of purity where the girls did not do more than a side hug with their future husbands before saying “I do.” Now, I think purity is crap, but the Duggars were pushing the idea very extensively.

    Further, the Duggars claimed that their highly repressive child-rearing techniques would protect daughters from being molested and produce Godly sons. It did neither.

    I don’t hate the Duggars, but I certainly sneer at the idea that they demonstrate anything other than the dysfunction and hypocrisy of their beliefs.

  • paganheart

    Sheesh…looks like the stress of trying to support five kids on a used car salesman’s salary is getting to him. In fact, he’s probably not able to support his family without financial help from Jim Bob, and it would not surprise me at all if Jim Bob makes that help contingent upon following Jim Bob’s rules at all times (including never going out without a chaperone.)

    I also wouldn’t be surprised if Jim Bob never misses an opportunity to remind Josh of the damage his infidelity and porn habits have done to the Duggar brand, and Jim Bob’s dreams of turning the Duggars into a sort of right-wing fundie version of the Kennedys (Never mind the damage done to his sisters and the other girl he molested…of course in Jim Bob’s world, their mental health doesn’t matter, anyhow.) Don’t forget Josh’s former job as a “lobbyist” in DC with the American Family Association…no doubt he was being groomed by Daddy for a political career.

    Throw in the fact that Josh has never received legitimate psychiatric help for his issues (“pastoral counseling” does not count) and I fear it is only a matter of time before Josh gets caught cheating again–or worse.

  • frostysnowman

    I actually hope Josh Duggar is not doing well. I hope he’ll be silently suffering inside his own head for quite some time. And even more than that, I hope he’s not trying to get Anna pregnant again. I fervently wish she’d take her kids and leave him to go live with one of her siblings who offered to take her in, but I know that will never happen.

  • Saraquill

    I wouldn’t mind him suffering as long as it doesn’t impact Anna or the kids. Unfortunately, this is unlikely.

  • Anonyme

    “Boyhood weakness”?
    He molested his sisters and knew what he did was wrong, since he preyed on them while they were SLEEPING. Josh wasn’t sorry about he did when he was outed to the media; he was sorry he finally faced some consequences, even if they weren’t legal ones. Just look how fast Jim Bob and Michelle rushed to do damage control, dragging two of the girls onto Megyn Kelly’s show (then on FOX) so the girls could parrot some doubtlessly coached lines about how OF COURSE they forgive Josh and Jesus made everything better. JB & Michelle even had the gall to say that the whole shit show brought the family closer together because trials bring families closer together. (Even if those trials involve a brother violating his sisters).

    I also don’t get the “everyone’s so mean to the Duggars, boo hoo.” attitude. While I’m sorry to see the kids (except for Josh) having no say in their parents pimping them out for money and national attention, that’s is a consequence–opening one’s lifestyle, lives, and family to criticism.

  • Anonyme

    Before the whole Josh situation erupted in their faces, Michelle actually sent out a robo-call to Alabamians about how having gender neutral public restrooms and changing rooms would open the floodgates to rape and sexual abuse (because transgender). Despite her own straight, white, Christian son having abused his sisters.

  • frostysnowman

    I could have made s drinking game out of the Megyn Kelly interview – every time they said “bad choices”, drink a shot.

  • Hannah

    Do you want alcohol poisoning? Cos I don’t want anyone to end up in A&E!

    As an aside, Suzanne did a book review drinking game thing a while ago on Facebook, so instead of drinking a shot of tequila I ate a chocolate instead.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    I would have to have a book as ridiculous as Vaughn Ohlman’s before I’d do another one! I admit I looked forward to reading aloud from that stupid book, tequila or no. The book I’m reviewing now, The Peaceful Wife, does not lend itself well to the ridicule and would just lead me to roar out ‘JUST TALK TO EACH OTHER!” for each chapter

  • Snagglefritz Sagenschnitter

    My favourite bit from the Duggar wedding service.

    I wonder where the kid “found” ring? Out on the sidewalk? In the gutter? Or was
    the TV producer outside, keeping it safe until the kid came running up
    to collect it (as he had probably rehearsed a dozen times before). And
    what about that hillbilly music while the search was on?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0bDYSwZDhY

  • Hannah

    Ach, sounds painful! Think of all the poor trees who gave their lives hoping to have Shakespeare or Rowling or something about unicorns printed on them, and they end up with that sort of dross all over their pages!

  • texassa

    I won’t be happy with Josh Duggar until he’s lost everything. Anna should leave him, get sole custody of the kids, and live off child support and alimony along with royalties from a tell-all book or new TV show about her life of escape. I hope Josh winds up in jail for some crime he’s already committed that hasn’t come to light yet.

  • texassa

    They DID treat it like a PR issue. That Fox News interview they gave to Megyn Kelly was SO gross and tone deaf. You could tell they were reciting talking points rather than speaking from the heart. They even had papers with notes in their laps! It was just so, so disturbing.

  • persephone

    I hate them, as I hate liars, scammers, con artists, fraudsters, and abusers.

  • persephone

    What about the sex worker he beat up?

  • Lana

    While I think what he did as a teenager is far worse, as far as crime and damage to the sisters, what he did as an adult was somehow more horrifying to me, in terms of how he defrauded . . . everyone. He was speaker of a hate organization campaigning for family values . .. that meant nothing. He was on TV campaigning family values . . .that meant nothing. He let his sisters get on TV and say he was a changed man . . .that meant nothing. He made his wife and kids wear dresses to pose as a conservative family man . . .that meant nothing.

    Literally, the Ashley Madison thing showed that his entire life, to that moment, was nothing but a show.

    The part of his youth showed that he was a very troubled youth who did a crime and had ignorant parents who did not give him the counseling he needed. But the Ashley Madison part showed that he was a fraud. I’d add that Josh went to his parents after he molested the sisters, which showed that at that point, he was actually crying out for help, unlike the adult Josh.

    All that said, I still have sympathy for Josh on some level. He needed the right therapy years ago, and it was denied him. Instead, his parents gave him a TV platform and good ego. If he had had counseling and had been given a normal childhood instead of a reality TV childhood, maybe the Ashley Madison stuff would have never happened, or at least if it had, it would not have happened while he was also campaigning for family values in a position for which he didn’t have the education for. Maybe also there would have been less victims in that family and the sisters could have better counseling. What a mess.