The Politicization of Evangelical Quiverfull

The Politicization of Evangelical Quiverfull June 9, 2019

One of the most dismaying things to happen in the wake of President Trump’s election is the large number of Evangelical Christians backing only the worst ideas. Take this week’s gleeful capering by Evangelical Christians over the decision by President Trump administration to ban the rainbow flag being flown at U.S. Embassies around the world.

Keep in mind that U.S. Embassies traditionally only fly the United States flag, not a hop scotch hodge-podge of weird flags like the Christian flag (yes, there is one) or anything else without very special permission on their main flagpole. But some embassies are flying the flag in honor of June being LGBTQ Pride month against the State Dept. advisory.

Plus Trump himself said this:

· May 31, 2019
As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals…

….on the basis of their sexual orientation. My Administration has launched a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality and invite all nations to join us in this effort

Gee whiz! Neither of these tweets from our president sound at all like he is wishing to repress anyone that identifies as LGBTQ at all. Unlike many of his Evangelical followers who are claiming he does.

Wait a minute!?!? I just defended a president I don’t like much. Is it opposites day?

More nonsense here from Lori Alexander, not on the rainbow flag, but more hatred and assumptions about people she knows exactly zero about, and the one sensible answer anyone has posted.

Oh snap! Called out by someone with authority over her who actually does understand that the Bible is not an excuse to demonize others. I am sure Lori will block this pastor and remove his comments.

Make no mistake about it. We are in a political war with those like Lori, like the many people approving the flag ban, against racists, white nationalists and like Doug Wilson.

Doug has been lately beating his drums and gums to repress the rights of anyone not his color and type of Christian:

This is to be distinguished from those circumstances where the secularists are demanding that believers use their expertise in such a way as to glorify a sinful activity—cake bakers, photographers, florists, etc. That is a place where the totalitolerant are demanding that we participate in the sin directly ourselves, which is not lawful, as opposed to participating in an economy which has markedly sinful elements, which absolutely is lawful. “I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world” (1 Cor. 5:9–10). Doing business with a fornicator is fine, unless the business concerned is helping him fornicate. A Christian app developer can build an app for a widget company that is owned by someone who is immoral. But the app developer may not build that guy a plug-in for his Tinder app to help him score more often. This is not complicated.

What Doug, Lori and others do not get is that asking someone to do their jobs in the public sphere is not forcing them to somehow ‘participate in sin’ There are plenty of things most of us learn to deal with in our jobs that we do not necessarily approve of, but we do our jobs. Even if it’s to hang a flag in honor of those very different than us.

Notice Doug’s demonizing and disrespectful language, he tries to dehumanize the LGBTQ community by acting as if they are all deranged criminal sex fiends coming from your honor.

When did being considered an Evangelical Christian become more about hating others than existing in loving tolerance for all? Jesus himself hung around with tax collectors and ladies of the night without tossing hate and judgment at them. Shouldn’t his followers be doing the same?

What about things like 1 John 2:9-11?

Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[b] is still in the darkness. 10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister[c] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. 11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.

Seems pretty clear to me that hating others that are different isn’t so much ‘Biblical’ as it is demonic.

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Suzanne Titkemeyer went from a childhood in Louisiana to a life lived in the shadow of Washington D.C. For many years she worked in the field of social work, from national licensure to working hands on in a children's residential treatment center. Suzanne has been involved with helping the plights of women and children' in religious bondage. She is a ordained Stephen's Minister with many years of counseling experience. Now she's retired to be a full time beach bum in Tamarindo, Costa Rica with the monkeys and iguanas. She is also a thalassophile. She also left behind years in a Quiverfull church and loves to chronicle the worst abuses of that particular theology. She has been happily married to her best friend for the last 32 years. You can read more about the author here.
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  • smrnda

    On ‘steal, kill and destroy’ – how about all those nice Christians who took over entire continents and stole them from the original inhabitants?

    I was also wondering about the specific references to CA and IL – I was assuming IL was because a bill recently was passed that affirmed the right to an abortion, but didn’t know what specifically singled out CA for a comment. Universities and Hollywood? Hollywood is pretty successful, and universities are still churning out lots of qualified grads and relevant research.

    but this from doug?

    demanding that believers use their expertise in such a way as to glorify a sinful activity—cake bakers, photographers, florists, etc.

    Then maybe they should do it as a hobby instead of as a business? For hire work is for hire work. If someone prints up business cards that say ‘world’s greatest DJ’ that does not mean they really agree with the sentiment.

  • Do people really not understand that all politicians do is throw bones to people to manipulate them? I don’t think that the administration cares who gets a bone, so long as it keeps them preoccupied. It’s an empty gesture. I think all most politicians care about is their meal ticket.

  • Polytropos

    I sometimes think in the evangelical world every day is opposites day, where ha&#8203te is love and foolishness is wisdom.

  • Jemolk

    On Lori’s claims — ki​lling an embryo is morally equivalent in every way except regarding future potential to ki​lling a dandelion or a tapeworm.
    It is not theft to take what was stolen from the thief. Property is theft (private property, at least, as opposed to personal property), and capitalism is expl​oitation. Leftist systems are the necessary redress for such thefts as enclosure, and the wage-sla​very that is all labor under capitalism.
    As for destruction, that comment is nothing short of pure projection.

    On Doug’s desire for Christian businesses to be allowed to discriminate — Do your job in full or find another job. I can respect someone who is willing to sacrifice for their principles. This, however, is demanding that other people sacrifice for your principles so you don’t have to. Anyone asking that can take a long walk off a short pier.

  • Raging Bee

    When was Evangelical Christianity NOT heavily politicized? They’ve been anti-progress, anti-secular, anti-education and anti-freedom for longer than America has been a country.

  • Saraquill

    Guy proclaims himself a bigot without bothering to dog whistle. May an umbrella open in his belly.

  • Saraquill

    When did this branch originate? I could have sworn they were a 20th century invention.

  • persephone

    Serena Joy wannabe. Of course, she won’t be allowed near technology, or even books. No reading for her. She’ll have to listen to men interpret for her. Ken is going to have to s uck it up and have s3x with young women who would have previously worn yoga pants, and Lori will have to watch.

  • Raging Bee

    What we’re seeing now is just the 20th-century incarnation of something that’s been around at least since the Reformation.

  • Peg

    These types moan about how they can’t wait for Jesus to come back. I really wish He would. I can have popcorn ready in 3 minutes.

  • SAO

    What does the loon think he is prrrotecting his family from? Barbarian attack? Mongol hordes? Alien invasion? In almost all parts of like, professionals do a hell of a lot better job than amateurs. If we all grew our own cotton, then ginned, spun, wove and sewed it, we’d spend months to make a rough garment.

    The same is true of protection. The police are professional; they die in the line of duty much less often than people die in gun accidents. 144 police officers were killed in the line of duty last year. 40,000 Americans died by gun. Let’s not forget that the police routinely enter dangerous situations and ordinary Americans don’t.

    Having a gun in the house triples a person’s chance of being killed by a gun. Twice as many (31%) of gun deaths occurred during family argument than during robberies (15%) or abductions (.2%). T

    Further, while 266,000 Americans experience armed robbery per year, only 15% of those are injured during the event, which is about 40,000. Of that, only 9% experience serious injury. Or 3,500

    So, to compare, you are more likely to be killed by a gun if you own one, than you are to be a victim of serious injury during a home invasion.

    Now these are rough estimates, I got many of the numbers from the National Crime Victimization Survey of 2010 and some are more recent numbers, but to change the comparison, crime rates would have to have changed dramatically in the last 10 years, which they haven’t.

    The bottom line is that it is a clear FACT that gun owners are far more likely to be killed by their own gun than they are to be a victim of serious injury or death during a home invasion or other event a gun owning is ‘protecting’ his family against.

  • Mimc

    Guns also dramatically increase a person’s chance of dying by suicide. Because most people who survive their first attempt do not try again. But guns are so deadly they don’t get a second chance.

  • SAO

    The numbers I had of being killed by a gun included suicide.

  • SAO

    I see why the church leaders want political power. They get their congregations to support GOP candidates and they and their families get trickle down jobs. But the short-run comes with a long-term cost, the erosion of religion from America. (I don’t think this is a bad thing, but I’m sure the GOP and the religious leaders do). People start doubting when their religious leader tell them ludicrous things, like God has chosen as president a serial philanderer whose immigration policy locked kids in cages, has caused the death of several children in US custody, and has been completely ineffective (immigration is way up in the last few years).

    Americans with no religious affiliation are 23% of the population, but 35% of Millennials. Only 9% of Americans say they were raised with no religious affiliation, so the movement has definitely been from people abandoning organized religion. The Millennials are starting families and if kids are raised without God, the whole Christian myth starts sounding as true as Santa Claus. Further, Sunday becomes a fun day and the thought of spending one morning every single weekend in church seems like a waste of time.

  • Timothy Weston

    Body count: Satan vs. God
    Source: The Bible, from the common 66-book canon

    Satan: 10 (Job 1)
    God: Almost an entire planet, millions of firstborn, whole nations

    If Satan wants to kill, he’s doing a terrible job at it.

  • Ivan T. Errible

    Religion is a waste of time, effort, and money.

  • Ivan T. Errible

    Religion is opposites day; it’s a complete waste of time and mental energy.

  • Astrin Ymris

    Exactly! True Christians™ claim to be persecuted if they don’t have everyone else bending over backwards to accommodate their prejudices religious convictions. They’re convinced that their personal space extends into other people’s bodies.

  • Brian Curtis

    On the day that no one objects to a rainbow flag being flown in America, it will no longer be needed. And not one day before.

  • Tracey

    One flag flies from our embassies; red white and blue.

    Citizens are free to proclaim their pride in debauchery, but our country has no business doing so.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    There’s only one problem with that. Embassies have flown other flags before. It’s not uncommon. They only have to get permission to fly other flags on the main flag pole, but not the others there. Pride flags have flown from embassies in the past with government approval. They flew last year. This is just petty posturing by the administration. This being the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Inn Riots it’s time that this is not even an issue.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Now that I’ve had my coffee and I am fully awake I see I need to ban you. We do not allow homophobia here. I see that a full third of your comments are flagged, you have a very low Disqus reputation and a significant amount of spam generated. Welcome to Jerks 4 Jesus and thanks for contributing!