Educational Opportunities Abound

Educational Opportunities Abound October 12, 2007

As you read the following you will think I am pulling your leg.  Not so.  Here’s the link to the LA Times for your thoughtful perusal. 

And, please keep your “excited murmurs” to a minimum, if at all possible.

By Stephanie Simon

(c) 2007, Los Angeles Times

FORT WORTH, Texas — Equal but different.

You hear that a lot on the lush green campus of Southwestern Baptist

Theological Seminary.

God values men and women equally, any student here will tell you.

It’s just that he’s given them different responsibilities: Men make

decisions; women make dinner.

This fall, the internationally known seminary — a century-old

training ground for Southern Baptists — began reinforcing those

traditional gender roles with college classes in homemaking. The

academic program, open only to women, includes lectures on laundering

stubborn stains and a lab in baking chocolate-chip cookies.

Philosophical courses such as “Biblical Model for the Home and

Family” teach that God expects wives to submit graciously to their

husbands’ leadership. A model house, to be completed by next fall,

will allow women to get credit toward bachelor’s degrees by learning

how to set tables, sew buttons and sustain lively dinner-time

conversation.

It all sounds wonderful to sophomore Emily Felts, 19, who signed up

as soon as she arrived on campus this fall.

Several relatives have told Felts that she’s selling herself short.

They want her to become a lawyer, and she agrees she would make a good

one. But that’s not what she wants to do with her life.

More to the point, it’s not what she believes God wants of her.

“My created purpose as a woman is to be a helper,” Felts said firmly.

“This is a college education that I can use.”

Seminary President Paige Patterson and his wife, Dorothy — who goes

by Mrs. Paige Patterson — view the homemaking curriculum as a way to

spread the Christian faith.

In their vision, graduates will create such gracious homes that

strangers will take note. Their marriages will be so harmonious, other

women will ask how they manage. By modeling traditional values, they

will inspire friends and neighbors to read the Bible and then,

perhaps, to follow the Lord.

“I’m personally going to teach the course in table manners,” Paige

Patterson said, moments after sneaking scraps of poached chicken off

his lunch plate for his black Labrador, Noche.

His wife shook her head affectionately.

“Oh my,” she said, in her gentle Southern lilt. “We’ll have to pray

for some help with that.”

So far, just eight of the 300 students in the seminary’s

undergraduate program are enrolled in the homemaking concentration,

which is similar to a major and counts toward a bachelor of arts in

humanities. Many more women, including graduate students and wives of

seminarians, study traditional gender roles in courses such as “Wife

of the Equipping Minister.” On a recent evening, more than 50 women —

some in sloppy sweats, others in prim sweater sets — pulled out

notebooks as class opened with student presentations. One woman talked

about her hobby of cross-stitching. Another showed how she uses the

Internet to track grocery coupons.

Laney Homan, 30, drew excited murmurs with her talk on meal planning,

featuring a recipe for a sure-fire “freezer pleaser” — a triple batch

of meatloaf (secret ingredient: oatmeal). Thanks to a computerized

system for generating grocery lists, Homan said, “I’ve actually

trained my husband to shop for me.”

Laughing, she threw her palms toward the heavens and added: “Praise Jesus!”

For the rest of the nearly three-hour class, guest lecturer Ashley

Smith, the wife of a theology professor, laid out the biblical basis

for what she calls “the glorious inequalities of life.”

Smith, 30, confided that she sometimes resents her husband for

advancing his career “while I’m changing diapers and getting poop all

over me.”

But then she quoted from Ephesians: “Wives, submit to your own

husbands, as to the Lord.” And from Genesis: God created Eve to be a

“suitable helper” for Adam.

“If we love the Scripture, we must do it,” said Smith, who gave up

her dreams of a career when her husband said it was time to have

children. “We must fit into this role. It’s so much more important

than our own personal happiness.”

More moderate Southern Baptists disagree, and they counter with their

own biblical references. When Jesus dined at the home of two sisters,

he praised Mary, who spent the evening studying his teachings, above

Martha, who did chores. Elsewhere in the New Testament, the apostle

Paul writes that “there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one

in Christ.”

“We’re confusing 1950s culture with the teaching of Scripture,” said

Wade Burleson, a Southern Baptist pastor in Oklahoma. “I nowhere see

where the Lord Jesus places limitations on the role of women in our

culture.”

One of the largest Southern Baptist seminaries, Southwestern draws

students from around the world to its 200-acre campus, fringed by

trees that set it apart from a rundown neighborhood in south Fort

Worth. Nearly three-quarters of the campus’ 3,000 students are men,

and many are older, having felt a call to ministry mid-life. The

seminary caters to their families, with shaded sidewalks for strollers

and a duck pond much beloved by toddlers.

In the undergraduate college — which opened two years ago — every

student must take Greek or Latin, plus seminars that explore works by

Sophocles and Shakespeare, Machiavelli and Marx, Darwin and

Dostoyevsky. The other day, Sarah Babler, an 18-year-old freshman

enrolled in the homemaking program, was writing a paper on the Trojan

War for one class. For another, she was parsing Proverbs 31 — on the

attributes of a godly woman.

She and others in the homemaking program devote about 20 percent of

their classroom time over four years to courses such as “Clothing

Construction,” “Meal Preparation ” and “Value of a Child.”

Such classes went out of style at most secular colleges a

half-century ago, but undergraduate Quincy A. Jones said he considers

them essential in a world where too many families are fractured and

unhappy. Jones, who is married and has five children, said he would

encourage his teenage daughter to study homemaking.

“It’s not limiting at all,” said Jones, 35. “It prepares women for a

variety of roles.”

Paige Patterson agrees. His goal is to nurture well-rounded women who

can do more than press a perfect crease: “We’re equipping them to do

home-schooling.”

An avid hunter who wears cowboy boots to chapel, Patterson, 64, is a

powerful — and polarizing — figure within the Southern Baptist

Convention.

During his tenure as convention president in the late 1990s, Southern

Baptists banned women from becoming pastors and called on every wife

“to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her

husband.” Last year, Patterson fired a female professor of biblical

languages; he interprets the Bible as prohibiting women from teaching

men theology.

Many moderates have left the Southern Baptist Convention in recent

years — including former President Carter — but it remains the

largest Protestant denomination, claiming more than 16 million

believers and 42,000 churches.

The conservative leadership plans to offer homemaking at other

seminaries. Here at Southwestern, the classes are proving popular with

an array of women.

Donella Cecrle, 36, spent years in the corporate world, traveling to

sell computer software — and far out-earning her husband, Andy.

Subservience wasn’t in her vocabulary. Neither was homemaking. Most

days, dinner was takeout from the Mexican restaurant down the street

or a quick meal at IHOP.

But about six years ago, the couple worked through a low point in

their marriage with prayer and Bible study. Slowly, Cecrle said, she

began to realize that she needed to change. When Cecrle became

pregnant, she left work for good and now stays home with their two

preschool-age children.

In what time she can spare, Cecrle works toward a bachelor’s degree

at the seminary. She started this semester with a homemaking course,

which Dorothy Patterson, 63, teaches at her own dining-room table

(artfully decorated with sprigs of autumnal berries and curls of

pumpkin-hued ribbon).

Cecrle credits Patterson’s lectures on God’s vision of womanhood with

helping her embrace her role as helper — and restrain her instincts

to take charge. “I have to be able to shut my mouth,” she said.

Many male graduate students at Southwestern take a class in masculine

leadership, where they are admonished to put their wives’ needs before

their own even as they flex their authority. But there’s no broader

curriculum on a husband’s role, leading Dusty Deevers, 30, to wonder

what he and other male students might be missing. Labs on mowing the

lawn? Trimming hedges? Balancing a checkbook? “Many, many men would be

well-served by something like that,” Deevers said.

Andy Cecrle, 42, takes it one step further: He would like to see a

homemaking class for men, or at least a survival boot camp. He happens

to know his way around the house and is proud that he changes his

children’s diapers. But he knows many guys don’t have a clue how to

even start the washer.

“What if my wife is sick and my kids need clean clothes? It may not

hurt to have some basic tips,” Cecrle said. Then he added cautiously:

“A lot of people would take great exception to what I’m saying.”

Felts is one of them. The point of taking college-level homemaking,

she said, is to ensure that her husband won’t feel that he has to darn

a sock or do the laundry. Those are her jobs.

If she doesn’t marry, that’s fine, too; she’ll pursue a master’s in

education — and use it to teach homemaking.

“I’m not one of those out to rebel, out to be my own woman types,” she said.

Home-schooled by her mother, Felts is poised, articulate and

unfailingly polite; she calls her elders “ma’am” and expresses

surprise with a genteel “Goodness!” She commutes to college from her

family’s Fort Worth home, so she has plenty of opportunity to work on

her helper skills. She dusts, mops and vacuums. She often makes dinner

for her family: Noodles from scratch or quiche with a homemade crust.

Does she enjoy these tasks? Except for vacuuming, absolutely, Felts

said. And if she didn’t?

“It really doesn’t matter what I think,” Felts said. “It matters what

the Bible says.”

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  • Wow…

    I just don’t know what to say.

  • Wow…

    I just don’t know what to say.

  • Wait…

    Does this mean I need to stop fixing dinner? Or preparing coffee in the morning? Well…Golly…

  • Wait…

    Does this mean I need to stop fixing dinner? Or preparing coffee in the morning? Well…Golly…

  • Hi Amy

    MMMM Well I see. But no. This day and age we don’t make ower own bread. We don’t milk the cow. We have thing to help cook, clean and woship the cloth.

    And I alway support free will. No laidy or women is anyone property buy there own. Cleaning and cooking is a united between a man and a women. The sky is no limited. Thanks for the 60’s. Well I what you to know that all is free will running. Every one pick up your bat is time for ball.

    It is time to bring home the bacan one and all.

    You’re Friend

    Will

  • Hi Amy

    MMMM Well I see. But no. This day and age we don’t make ower own bread. We don’t milk the cow. We have thing to help cook, clean and woship the cloth.

    And I alway support free will. No laidy or women is anyone property buy there own. Cleaning and cooking is a united between a man and a women. The sky is no limited. Thanks for the 60’s. Well I what you to know that all is free will running. Every one pick up your bat is time for ball.

    It is time to bring home the bacan one and all.

    You’re Friend

    Will

  • Jim

    What amazes me is that there are people out there willing to pay $198/credit hour ($396/credit hour for non-SBC students) to learn how to sew on a button, set a table and change a diaper.

  • Jim

    What amazes me is that there are people out there willing to pay $198/credit hour ($396/credit hour for non-SBC students) to learn how to sew on a button, set a table and change a diaper.

  • Stephannie

    I’ve never posted on one of your blogs before Amy but I find it difficult to restrain myself with this one.

    First, I agree with Jim. Second, as a woman, mother, and wife, (like many other women I know) I work, cook, clean, chauffer, referee, mow the lawn, pull weeds, get the oil changed, schedule doctor’s appointments, volunteer, try to be polite, courteous, and understanding (more or less, depending on the circumstances), go on “dates” with my husband (your b-i-l), put the fear of God in my children in order to help them make better decisions, and blah, blah, blah…the list goes on.

    What I don’t do is coddle, give up my opinion (we entered into our marriage with the understanding we would be equal partners with different strengths & weaknesses), sew buttons or anything else for that matter, allow disrespect of any kind, wash my teenager’s clothes or pick up after our son, etc., etc.

    I cannot begin to tell you how appalled I was of this article! There are a lot of things I do and quite a lot that I don’t do too. I have a hard time wrapping my mind around a scripture that states a woman should “submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband.” If God truly intended for women to live by that one statement in the Bible, He surely would have “programed” us with some sort of submissive DNA, right? Maybe someday a female scientist will discover it. Who knows.

    In the meantime, I, like you and many other women I’m sure, will continue to live life as an equal partner in marriage, raise our children to be God fearing, independent, educated, and well-balanced…all without having ever taken a course in sumbissive homemaking.

    UGH!

  • Stephannie

    I’ve never posted on one of your blogs before Amy but I find it difficult to restrain myself with this one.

    First, I agree with Jim. Second, as a woman, mother, and wife, (like many other women I know) I work, cook, clean, chauffer, referee, mow the lawn, pull weeds, get the oil changed, schedule doctor’s appointments, volunteer, try to be polite, courteous, and understanding (more or less, depending on the circumstances), go on “dates” with my husband (your b-i-l), put the fear of God in my children in order to help them make better decisions, and blah, blah, blah…the list goes on.

    What I don’t do is coddle, give up my opinion (we entered into our marriage with the understanding we would be equal partners with different strengths & weaknesses), sew buttons or anything else for that matter, allow disrespect of any kind, wash my teenager’s clothes or pick up after our son, etc., etc.

    I cannot begin to tell you how appalled I was of this article! There are a lot of things I do and quite a lot that I don’t do too. I have a hard time wrapping my mind around a scripture that states a woman should “submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband.” If God truly intended for women to live by that one statement in the Bible, He surely would have “programed” us with some sort of submissive DNA, right? Maybe someday a female scientist will discover it. Who knows.

    In the meantime, I, like you and many other women I’m sure, will continue to live life as an equal partner in marriage, raise our children to be God fearing, independent, educated, and well-balanced…all without having ever taken a course in sumbissive homemaking.

    UGH!

  • Hi Amy

    Get well soon. Sunday was nice. Eric did a wonderful job. The choir leader is back. Please take care of your self. Get well soon.

    P.S. Even I should not tell on my self. But I was in Sunday School. If you what to know way. I’ll tell you when you get better. I should tell you before someone in the church tell you. I know you have you people keeping an extra eye on me so I don’t get in trouble.

    Love

    Will

  • Hi Amy

    Get well soon. Sunday was nice. Eric did a wonderful job. The choir leader is back. Please take care of your self. Get well soon.

    P.S. Even I should not tell on my self. But I was in Sunday School. If you what to know way. I’ll tell you when you get better. I should tell you before someone in the church tell you. I know you have you people keeping an extra eye on me so I don’t get in trouble.

    Love

    Will

  • Courtney

    In response to Jim’s comment, they’re not paying for the home ec classes; they’re paying for the Godly husband they hope to find at the university. Even at Hopkins I met some women who were there solely, or at least primarily, to find a successful guy to marry. Hard to believe it’s the 21st century, huh?

    You think they have any web tutorials on how to iron? I could really use the help… ;)

  • Courtney

    In response to Jim’s comment, they’re not paying for the home ec classes; they’re paying for the Godly husband they hope to find at the university. Even at Hopkins I met some women who were there solely, or at least primarily, to find a successful guy to marry. Hard to believe it’s the 21st century, huh?

    You think they have any web tutorials on how to iron? I could really use the help… ;)

  • Ron

    This has to be the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Could you ever imagine in your greatest nightmares that this one time proud institution of learning and preparation could be reduced to offering such unbelievable “Stepford Wives” kind of training? I am just appalled. No I am just saddened. No, I really don’t know shat it is that I feel.

    Page Patterson was always in my mind a, well I won’t use the words in this space, but could any one have envisioned twenty years ago when this group of fruitcakes were taking control of the SBC that things would be reduced to this. WOW!!! That is all that I can say.

  • Ron

    This has to be the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Could you ever imagine in your greatest nightmares that this one time proud institution of learning and preparation could be reduced to offering such unbelievable “Stepford Wives” kind of training? I am just appalled. No I am just saddened. No, I really don’t know shat it is that I feel.

    Page Patterson was always in my mind a, well I won’t use the words in this space, but could any one have envisioned twenty years ago when this group of fruitcakes were taking control of the SBC that things would be reduced to this. WOW!!! That is all that I can say.

  • noogatiger

    “It really doesn’t matter what I think,” Felts said. “It matters what

    the Bible says.”

    Well, that is just the saddest thing I have ever read.

    The Bible says lots of things which we would not ever abide by.

    Women were supposed to be silent in Church and cover their heads when praying, but does anyone do that.

    Don’t get your morals from a book which viewed women as property to be bought and sold and have sex with at will.

  • noogatiger

    “It really doesn’t matter what I think,” Felts said. “It matters what

    the Bible says.”

    Well, that is just the saddest thing I have ever read.

    The Bible says lots of things which we would not ever abide by.

    Women were supposed to be silent in Church and cover their heads when praying, but does anyone do that.

    Don’t get your morals from a book which viewed women as property to be bought and sold and have sex with at will.

  • John Salazar

    I just want to know if I, as a male, can sign up for this? I mean, hey, if women can learn to “bake for Jesus,” then why can’t I? Shouldn’t men be given the opportunity to learn to be homemakers, too? And if I am not able to enroll, is that gender discrimination? Just a thought…who wants cookies this Sunday?

    p.s. The above is sarcasm at it’s best…I don’t really believe women are “rib-companions!” My goodness…

    -A Very “Manly” Christian Guy

  • John Salazar

    I just want to know if I, as a male, can sign up for this? I mean, hey, if women can learn to “bake for Jesus,” then why can’t I? Shouldn’t men be given the opportunity to learn to be homemakers, too? And if I am not able to enroll, is that gender discrimination? Just a thought…who wants cookies this Sunday?

    p.s. The above is sarcasm at it’s best…I don’t really believe women are “rib-companions!” My goodness…

    -A Very “Manly” Christian Guy

  • Mel

    Hello,

    One of the women in this article is my dearest friend. I was looking for her Blog and saw this. Her comment was taken completely out of context and worked to make this article sound like she was a perfect little susy homemaker. I assure you she is not neither am I. I do stay hoem by my own choice because children get killed everyday where we live by being left at daycare. Some it my be ok to make this chioce. I have BS in Psychology and English with a minor in Biology. I am not a drone and resnt being thougth of as one because I want to put my children and marriage first. I plan on getting my PhD and my husband fully supports that so he can be homeroom dad someday. Anyway all I am saying is do not think we are closed minded and do not close your minds yourself. And as far as price of credit hour seminary wives gat a massive discount some classes are even free. Soory to offend anyone but I had to defend ourselves. Thanks.

  • Mel

    Hello,

    One of the women in this article is my dearest friend. I was looking for her Blog and saw this. Her comment was taken completely out of context and worked to make this article sound like she was a perfect little susy homemaker. I assure you she is not neither am I. I do stay hoem by my own choice because children get killed everyday where we live by being left at daycare. Some it my be ok to make this chioce. I have BS in Psychology and English with a minor in Biology. I am not a drone and resnt being thougth of as one because I want to put my children and marriage first. I plan on getting my PhD and my husband fully supports that so he can be homeroom dad someday. Anyway all I am saying is do not think we are closed minded and do not close your minds yourself. And as far as price of credit hour seminary wives gat a massive discount some classes are even free. Soory to offend anyone but I had to defend ourselves. Thanks.