After the election of a new President, we will still…

After the election of a new President, we will still… November 2, 2012

*To be clear, I did not write this. I do think it is making a great point about not investing “messianic” like hopes into another election…

Excerpt From Mike at “NewChurchCA:”

….The truth is that it doesn’t matter who is elected in November. Next year, when January turns into February, and the President sits comfortably in the White House, nothing will have changed. America’s economy will still be completely dependent upon enabling humans to kill other humans. We will still occupy other nations despite the majority opinion in those nations. We will still hold anarsenal capable of destroying the entirety of humanity many times over. We will still be the largest supplier of deadly arms across the globe, many of which we will destroy ourselves in future conflict. We will do these things and call ourselves a nation of peace.

We will still incarcerate more of our citizens by proportion than any other nation on earth. We will still murder each other by willful homicide and neglect at a rate shocking compared to other industrial nations. We will still have an infant mortality rate surpassing all other nations with our wealth, yet at the same time spend more money on healthcare than most. We will still allow people to die in the streets because they cannot afford healthcare. We will still snuff out millions of potential lives because of the burden (real and imagined) they will place on our lives. We will do these things and call ourselves a nation of life.

We will still incarcerate at one time or another one third of an entire race. We will still incarceratethe desperate throngs yearning to be free, who come to this nation like every race before them, with nothing more than the clothes on their back. We will still enslave the majority of our citizens in debt by convincing them to want things they do not need, and inflating the price of those things they do. We will do all these things and call ourselves a nation of liberty.

….We will still not feed the hungry, clothe the naked, or heal the sick. We will still boast with aprideful arrogance unmatched on the planet. We will still abuse the orphans, the widows, and the aliens. We will still believe that greed will drive us forward. We will still murder, steal, lie, commit adultery, covet, and invoke the name of God to advance our own desires. We will still worship things created and turn our back on the Creator. We will do all of these things and call ourselves a Christian nation….. READ THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE

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  • David

    It is absolutely ridiculous to say it doesn’t matter who is elected. Neither party is perfect and neither person elected President will be able to change all of the things in this post, but the idea that both candidates are equally bad on those problems is complete malarky. It’s not a matter of “Who is going to fix all this? Nobody. Oh… well it doesn’t matter then” but a question of which one will work to move more in the right direction on the most issues. In my opinion one party and candidate is dedicated to improving things like access to healthcare and immigration laws among others (but not necessarily all) on the list while the other is dedicated to making those things worse, so that’s how I’m basing my vote. I’m absolutely positive that a lot of people will disagree with my vote and some will think the other candidate is the better option, but to say it doesn’t matter because neither one is going to magically fix all the nations problems is a farce.

    • To be honest, I don’t think he’s really talking about the president. He’s calling out the nation. All those things mentioned above are the result of individual choices made by individuals of a nation. It’s all well and good for one person to be convicted about which candidate will provide better leadership in government, but if that one person doesn’t change the way he thinks about gas consumption, social justice etc., he’s not gonna like a president who drives oil prices through the roof because he wants to pull out of the middle east.

  • Love it. It might be a bit of hyperbole to say that absolutely nothing will change, but yeah, those general principles have been the same for a while regardless of party in power and I don’t expect it to change either way. There are bigger issues for America than politics.

  • Brad

    Currently in my Modern Literature class we are Reading A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving. Really drives home the theme of the individual versus the institution and existential tenets like subjectivitiy, individual freedom, and choice. One of the real crises facing our country is that most of us have given in to the power of the institution or have given our power to the institution, forgetting that the institution was created by humans, by us. If I was really serious about transforming the nation I live in and the world I inhabit, I may still vote, but the transformation obviously begins with me. Noam Chomksy mentions apologizing as a way to assuage one’s guilt, but simply asking for forgiveness or saying one is sorry doesn’t take away one’s responsibility to do what he or she can to make it right. How one lives from the point of the apologizing (a marked change in action or behavior) shows true transformation. Imagine if every person said, “I’m mad as heaven, and I’m not going to take it!” I will “be the change I want to see in the world.” The Sermon on the Mount (Matt 5-7) I think best addresses the kind of transformation we’re talking about. It is the realization that we are all connected and what we say and do and think impacts the world and the people of the world, including me and who I AM. The two party SYSTEM is just that, a SYSTEM. It does matter who is elected. That is the writer’s point (through hyperbole). But the person you must elect is not Obama or Romney. It’s YOU! God says, “I chose you to be who you are where you are! Now live who you are where you are, and don’t let the voices outside override the Voice inside! Wake up!” Thoreau writes that most of us lead lives of quiet desperation in the form of resignation. Instead, live! Really live! And die! Really die! And then live again! Really live again! Every day at every moment! Do that and let the transformation in you be used by God in whatever way he wishes.

  • OK Kurt, I appreciate what you’re doing here. I’m an old(er) Anabaptist radical myself, an eschatalogical new world completely different than this evil world follower of Jesus for sure, but . . . . (yeah, you knew that was coming). . . It seems best to me to avoid reposts of anonymous Mikes. I couldn’t find out who the author was. And Mike, personally, I think it best to stay slightly off absolutizing statements like this one “America’s economy will still be completely dependent upon enabling humans to kill other humans.” Sure, substantial portions of it are, but a little “wisdom of the serpent” along with the “innocence of doves” wouldn’t hurt. In any case, Mike, if you’re working in a church, if you preach or teach somewhere regularly, let us know who you are so we can gather with you. Otherwise, we’re just out here alone–with you–somewhere, and we’re just alone if we can’t get together in Christ. I’m still looking for stand up Christian leaders in St. Louis, MO, so if anyone knows of any, please let me know.

  • Love it! I’m including this post in my Cures for the Post Election hangover: