Top 7 Bible Verses About Homosexuality

Homosexuality is a hot button issue in the world today. From the issues surrounding gay marriages, to the activism and gay pride parades all around, it’s clear that it won’t just go away. Unfortunately, due to these issues, tensions have grown between the homosexual community and the Christian community. And, it’s sad to say that many Christians have not just disagreed with the gay lifestyle, but have vehemently attacked and mocked them in an ungodly way. While it is true that the Bible speaks against homosexuality, it also speaks against the mistreatment of others. In fact, the Bible promotes a selfless love that, while not tolerating sin, will be able to confront people in an appropriate and godly way. Thus, it’s vitally important that all people go to the Scriptures to clear up any confusing regarding homosexuality. So, here are 7 bible verses about homosexuality.

“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

“For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.” Romans 1:26-28

 “But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Mark 10:6-9 

“The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.” 1 Timothy 1:10-11 

“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.” Leviticus 20:13 

“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” Leviticus 18:22

“The two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed himself with his face to the earth and said, “My lords, please turn aside to your servant’s house and spend the night and wash your feet. Then you may rise up early and go on your way.” They said, “No; we will spend the night in the town square.” But he pressed them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house. And he made them a feast and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.” Genesis 19:1-5 

Bible Verses About Homosexuality

Conclusion

Although Homosexuality is a big issue in today’s world, people can learn a lot if they only dive into the Scriptures. Yes, the Scriptures do list homosexuality as a sin; however, everyone must realize that there are many other sins as well—including those committed by heterosexual people. A homosexual is no more a sinner than the guy and girl who have casual sex together. It’s good for Christians to be concerned about homosexuality, but not to the point where they are pinpointing that one sin and placing it above all others. Christians must reach out to homosexuals in a non-aggressive way, as Jesus would; they must be completely loving and truly care about the person. They need Jesus as much as anyone else does—including you!

Article By Michael Krauzer

Michael Krauszer is the founder of ChristianLitReview.com, a website dedicated to providing a Christian perspective on all forms of literature. Additionally, Michael has been a full-time staff member at Calvary Chapel Old Bridge for the last four years, working as a Ministry Assistant and Pastoral Intern. He received his Bachelor of Arts in English from The College of New Jersey and is currently in pursuit of his MA in Theological Studies from Veritas Evangelical Seminary. Michael is also a Christian freelance writer and you can find some of his writing at FaithAndEntertainment. Visit Michael’s Facebook page here: Christian Literature Review

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  • Frank6548

    The only time I ever speak out against homosexual behavior is when people try to lie to others and say it’s not sinful.

    • ‘Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other sins are invented nonsense.’ ~Robert A. Heinlein

      • Frank6548

        The first time you posted it, it was ineffective.

        • Reason is always ineffective on the authoritarian submissive mind given to blind obedience.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCVlI-_4GZQ

          • Frank6548

            Its not effective because it’s irrelevant. How embarrassing for you.

          • Are you embarrassed because your whining is so irrelevant? How funny.

          • Frank6548

            Clueless too eh? See above, repeat.

          • Back to 2nd grade taunts? Must have followed Jesus a little to far retarding your intellect to “child-like” Santa Claus eligible.

            LK 18.17 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.

            MT 11.25 At that time Jesus said, I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

          • Frank6548

            See above and repeat. This is too easy.

      • thushjz

        My Uncle died of AIDS, he probably had it for years not even knowing it infecting maybe 10-20 other people…I had many Holiday dinners with my Uncle as did my kids, we did not reject him, but he knew where I stood, if you don’t recall your recent history, AIDS kills…and that is hurting other unnecessarily.

        • Christianity has killed more than AIDS. So let’s use your “logic” and outlaw it. Yeah, baby.

        • bamboodread

          Nice try you arsehole

    • TJ MC

      Why is it a sin?

  • Marshal Phillips

    In my view, what is a sin is to deny science, reason, and common sense about gay and lesbian people. It’s makes as much sense as trying to brand left handed people as sinful. Why use religion to harm the lives of others? If you’re not gay or lesbian, you know someone who is… perhaps in your own family, or among your friends, associates, and neighbors. Live and let live.

    • thushjz

      My Uncle (whom I cared a lot about and had several holiday dinners with even though he was gay) died of AIDS, so, I conclude from that. his lifestyle and behavior was dangerous and destructive, which I also taught my kids, even though they TOO ate several Holiday meals with him over the years…

      • Marshal Phillips

        AIDS is a virus not a lifestyle. I’ve known many people in my life who have died of cancer, heart disease, stroke, diabetes etc.
        Today AIDS is a manageable disease; in Africa it affects mostly straight people.
        I conclude that if one of your kids was gay or lesbian you would accept and love and want to have a full life of romance and marriage just like if you had a straight kid?

        • Liberal Kuhn

          Ugly old fat queen

          • no more mr. nice guy

            He sure is!

        • Michael Herring

          but the gays got it first aids and they spread it around and they didnt care who got it. according to the bible plaques is given if you break gods laws most disease are from sin like cancer is usallly cause from unforgiveiness or envy and africa they usually practice witch craft so they deserve to have their kids cursed

          • Ali Khan

            I agree with you Michael. It’s only after the discussion of facts and statistics that these people turn away in shame and live according to their delusions. God help them if He chooses to.

          • bamboodread

            I hope your teeth rotten overnight and you drown from the puss leaking from your gums you evil cunt

        • no more mr. nice guy

          There is no such thing as a “homo” or a “lesbian”. All there is are men and women and boys and girls. Redundancy is never the same as and equal to complimentary.

        • no more mr. nice guy

          Sodomy isn’t the homo lifestyle because sodomy is a death style.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Sodomy (ORAL & ANAL SEX) isn’t a lifestyle!
            It’s a behavior that BOTH straights and gays engaged in.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Your blame shifting; finger pointing; scapegoat making is pathetic and perverse.There are mountains of “scientific” knowledge emanating from the USA sodomy saluting federal government and from organizations like Amfar and the World Health Organization etc. that pulverize your incessant lies. Here’s just one. The Centers for Disease Control [DC] has shown that 94.9% of HIV diagnoses among teenage boys [13-19] are directly linked to DEVIANT homosexual acts – acts like sodomy; rimming; fisting; bare-backing; bug chasing; pegging; tossing the salad; brown showers; golden showers; taking the express; Fulsome street parades; circuit parties etc.
            And all of this – in this case 94.6% – is caused by an inhumane and dehumanized 1.6% who has been let loose on the general welfare.

          • Marshal Phillips

            “Facts are stupid things.” Ronald Reagan
            But Reagan’s conservative Christian Surgeon General advised All, whether gay or straight, to use a condom “from start to finish.”
            Your “facts” are grossly inaccurate today.
            Straight minority women are the fastest growing group at risk.
            AIDS is a virus NOT an orientation.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Blame shifting! Finger pointing! Scapegoat making!
            you are so incredibly desperate. Your incoherence and delusions and you flailing around in circles is is proof that homo’s are insane.
            If condoms worked why do 94.9% of those between 13-19 years of age contract HIV via heathen inhumane and dehumanized homo acts; habits; and perverted hobbies?
            It’s time for penectomies to protect the general welfare.
            Thanks for “coming out”. We know where to go to dispense life saving health care. Homo genitals are deadly weapons.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your hatred of humanity is a parody of the Pharisees whom Jesus condemned.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Look who is talking a proverbial hater of God.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Whomever shall not receive God’s message of Love’s fulfillment of The Law by Loving our Neighbors, which is the Greatest Commandment,… when you depart out of that house, city, or website… shake the dust of your feet and move on.
            I’m consciously uncoupling from this website so I no longer will be distracted from God’s Love of ALL by hatred. I no longer will see your posts of animus. Your reply will not enter my house, city, or email.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You poison God’s words by using them against their meaning.
            You are over matched because you lie and when your lies are exposed you run like the coward you are.

          • Kitcat_007

            @Marshal Phillips, B.S., speak for yourself you anal obsessed parasite.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Paul, the father of Christian theology, said the entire law is fulfilled in one word: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Jesus gave a new commandment: the Golden Rule. One hardly needs to be homosexual to understand when we stand up for others, especially the least amongst us, that we are standing up for Jesus.

          • Kitcat_007

            @Marshall Phillips, you continue to LIE about the bible and Christianity. Since you are fallen angel @ AshkeNATZI synthetic j-w, this is to be expected. The sheer number of comments you’ve posted and the bat’s maze of lies in your text PROVE you are PAID GAY.TROLL.

            You can type until your fingers are as bruised as your rear.end, but this is one war you sodomites will lose. 40% of you are HIV infected, so you.don’t have a lot of time anyway you’re such a waste of space. Hell’s fire awaits all you.demons.

          • Marshal Phillips

            May you find love in your heart for those you hate.

          • Kitcat_007

            @Marshall Phillips, you LYING FALLEN ANGEL.

            ( Amos 7:7 to 7:9 )
            ( 2 Thessalonians 2:11 )
            ( Psalm 78:49 )
            ( John 8:44 )
            ( Revelation 2:9)
            ( Revelation 3:9)
            ( Revelation 10 )
            ( John 8:44 )

          • Marshal Phillips

            All you need is love for your fellow man and God.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You are pin point perfectly correct! Thank you!

          • Marshal Phillips
          • bamboodread

            You can talk you syphilitic whore

        • thushjz

          My son is a conservative Christian with aspergers syndrome, A 4 year college degree from Colo. Christian University in denver, and I’m playing the music at his wedding in September. My other son I adopted fifteen years ago who has attachment disorder, and was addicted to cocaine and alcohol at birth because his real mom was a drug addict…you know nothing about me, my family or what I’ve done to try and make this world a better place…you appear to want to push an agenda, not actually help anyone.

          • Marshal Phillips

            You know absolutely nothing about me and appear to want to push your anti-gay agenda not actually help them.

          • thushjz

            Nice parroting, do you have a mind of your own? I prayed with my uncle twice before he died of AIDS 10 years ago…if you call that an anti gay agenda I’ll call you a liar…

          • Marshal Phillips

            Nice parroting, do you have a mind of your own? Self aggrandizement and insults. AIDS is NOT a life style. It’s a disease.

          • thushjz

            I’ve prayed for you…parrot that…

          • Marshal Phillips

            I hope you research science and biology.
            Parrot that!

          • thushjz

            I have kids…I know how biology works from personal experience…A man and a woman have sex and a child results from that…a man and a man have sex and it results in no child…that’s biology 101 from my health class in the 8th grade in 1972…

          • Marshal Phillips

            You might upgrade your science from the 8th grade. Do you think Trichomoniasis, HPV, Chlamydia, and Herpes are life styles?
            When men and women take precaution and have sex, no child results.

          • thushjz

            Read the bible passages from the article, quotes directly from Paul and Jesus Christ Himself…get back to me when you’ve upgraded your biblical knowledge…

          • Marshal Phillips

            Read up on the list of diseases from my post and get back to me when you’ve upgraded your science knowledge from the 8th grade; and understand fully why humans have sex. And the need for science based sex ed.
            Paul, the father of Christian theology, wrote in Galatians 5:14 “For the entire LAW is fulfilled in one word, even in this; thou shalt LOVE thy neighbor as thyself.”
            Jesus Christ said nothing about gays and lesbians or same-sex marriage.

          • thushjz

            You know neither the Bible nor God…since you are too lazy to read the scriptures yourself (or you just ignore them) I’ll be nice and put them here for you…get back to me when you’ve quit making up your own bible and your own god you’ve put in a box…

            The words of Jesus
            “But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” Mark 10:6-9

            The scriptures of Paul

            “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

            “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.” Romans 1:26-28

            “The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.” 1 Timothy 1:10-11

            “The two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed himself with his face to the earth and said, “My lords, please turn aside to your servant’s house and spend the night and wash your feet. Then you may rise up early and go on your way.” They said, “No; we will spend the night in the town square.” But he pressed them strongly; so they turned aside to him and entered his house. And he made them a feast and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.” Genesis 19:1-5

          • Marshal Phillips

            You know neither the Bible nor God. And accusing me of being lazy or ignoring evidence is just an ad hominem personal attack.
            For starters the word “homosexuality” does NOT appear in the original Greek language of Paul because it is a modern scientific word. In fact nowhere in the Bible is the subject of sexual orientation, gays, lesbians, or same sex marriage even discussed.
            Furthermore if you actually know your Bible you will discover the sin of Sodom was gang rape, inhospitality to strangers, and treatment of the poor. Research ALL texts related to Sodom in the Bible.
            And BTW recall what happened to poor Lot afterwards: he got drunk and his daughters had sex with him.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Jesus wasn’t asked about gay or lesbian marriage, he was very specifically asked about DIVORCE and he was against it. He said nothing about gays, lesbians, or same sex marriage. And yet how many so-called anti-gay Christians excuse, ignore, and overlook DIVORCE!

          • Marshal Phillips

            When quoting the Bible it’s best to FIRST understand the original language that a particular text is written in. That helps understand a piece of writing. Later translations are not completely accurate especially when they add modern words not in existence when the text was originally written.

          • thushjz

            Kinda like your ad hominem attack of thinking I’m a simpleton and stupid…I started doing ministry in a Christian rock band in 1983, we toured Europe 5 times and Australia 3 times, before I was 26 years old. I had done ministry for the Lord Jesus Christ on 4 Continents. In my 30s I was doing Christian ministry in music groups in stadiums over a 3 year period for an estimated four and a half million people…I saw literally hundreds of thosands confess Jesus Christ In public and become real christians for crowds as large as 100,000. In my 40s I was raising two disabled boys one with autism and one I adopted who has attachment disorder, I’ve lived one he’ll of a life in reality, not on the internet arguing with people you incorrectly think are not as intelligent as you are…I watched my gay Uncle deteriorate right in front of my eyes because of AIDS…he was a friend of mine, he saw me perform numerous times, he was an intelligent gay man who, in the end knew what he was doing was wrong and was sorry for his sins….you however are simply arrogant, like to argue with people, and use the bible only as a weapon against those who actually believe it…which you do not. Good luck putting God in your little box…you’ll need it.

          • Marshal Phillips

            I did NOT use either “stupid” or “simpleton”. In point of fact I think you are a perfectly nice person; perhaps uninformed in biblical exegesis, but then most people are.
            Gays are not sinners and being gay is not a sin.
            “simply arrogant” is just another example of your ad hominenem personal attacks. Apparently you “like to argue with people and use the bible only as a weapon” against gays. I do believe the Bible is literature; and I especially LOVE the King James Version for the beauty of its Shakespearean language.
            Please re-read you last post and see how filled it is with anger and self pride. AND you have proved NOTHING by your biblical interpretations of cherry picking verses without understanding FIRST & FOREMOST the actual original languages of the Bible and their cultural context.
            Nevertheless, I do wish you well and hope you can understand that I’m not attacking you; but you seem to enjoy attacking gays for being gay.

          • thushjz

            You didnt have to say I’m a simpleton and stupid…you implied it very well…Your perfect exegesis (in your mind) Won’t save you…Those of us who know Jesus and understand that the bible and Jesus are not allegories or nice fables can see clearly that your use of scripture is not to further God’s cause but your own…you seem to think this is a game, I can assure you it’s no game, and you’re about to find that out. Good luck. ..

          • Marshal Phillips

            I neither explicitly said nor implied that you’re either a simpleton or stupid. Those words have very specific meanings: http://www.onelook.com Look up the words in the dictionary. But to be clear, as I said, I think you’re a perfectly nice person.
            But your use of scripture to target gays for spiritual abuse, condemnation, and judgment goes against everything Jesus taught. Judge not, for if you do, you yourself will be judged. That is not furthering God’s cause which is to love. Love thy neighbor as thyself for that is the whole and entire fulfillment of God’s Law.
            You seem think this is a game of posting judgement about gays. I can assure you it’s no game!
            “With or without religion good people will do good and evil people will do evil. But for good people to do evil… that takes religion.” Steven Weinberg

          • thushjz

            You’re projecting friend, the bible speaks for itself. 1Corinthians 6:9, I notice you stay away from those passages, why is that? I don’t hate gays. I’ve already told you my gay Uncle was my friend. most of my family shunned him, I did not…but he knew where I stood. You say I am judging and that is incorrect, When Jesus said “In the beginning God made them male and female…” Christ specifically said male and female, not male and male nor female and female, why did Jesus Himself say that? Because He (Being God in the flesh) knew God’s design was male and female. You can say I’m judging, that is false, But God’s word is clear, you either take it as it is or ignore and push aside the paragraphs you don’t like and make up your own god, your choice…choose well.

          • Marshal Phillips

            “You’re projecting” more ad hominem personal attacks.
            I did not say that you “hate gays”. Please read much more carefully what I specifically said about you. Actual words do matter.
            I’m not staying away from anything. You cited 1 Corinthians 6:9 which does NOT mention homosexuals, sexual orientation, gays, lesbians, or same-sex marriage. As I’ve mentioned more than once, please read texts in the original language to understand the meaning in the cultural contexts of the times. Corinthians was written in Greek.
            As to your question about Jesus, which I’ve commented on before: Jesus was replying to a very specific question about DIVORCE and he was against it. He said nothing about same-sex marriage for obvious reasons, it didn’t exist. He did comment about DIVORCE, and he was against it! But that is ignored and brushed aside; too many so-called “Christians” today accept divorce, but continue to bash gays with judgement.
            You continue to make judgements about gays based on pushing aside the texts you don’t like and make up interpretations not based on original language
            Choose to read and to understand proper exegesis without your anti-gay agenda.

          • thushjz

            You seem to have a very thin skin… “Your projecting” is not an ad hominem personal attack…I’ve told you several times now I don’t hate gays, yet you continue (falsely) saying I have an anti Gay agenda…you are so blind you cannot understand it’s you that has the agenda…

            Exegesis this…“For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.” Romans 1:26-28

          • Marshal Phillips

            I have a very thick hide! And YES with every comment you demean gays with your cherry picked words from your interpretations. Just as the text you cited you assume without actually reading the original Greek that it refers to gays, when the word gay was not even in use or understanding at the time the text in Greek was written.
            You have spent so much time and effort in arguing with me on your anti-gay agenda that you have failed in God’s admonition to judge not and to take care of your own salvation. If you have any understanding of science, biology, psychology, and medicine you will know that being gay is very natural and quite normal for gays. DUH!
            Here’s a thought: in the words of my grandmother: “Tend to your own knitting.” Stop finger pointing, judging, condemning like a gossipy old woman with nothing better to do than sit around and talk about others.
            Judge not, for if you do, you ALSO will be judged.
            Try this: Love gays, stop obsessing on your very anti-gay agenda.

          • Marshal Phillips

            thushjz: Why don’t you spend your time researching and commenting on ALL the divorced folks in your community, church, and workplace and start calling them out for violating what Jesus said about DIVORCE!
            But be sure to leave plenty of time for you to rebuke women who speak in the churches!

          • thushjz

            I think you need to do a little less exegesis, and a lot more finding JESUS…

          • Marshal Phillips

            Jesus explained (exegesis) things very well indeed when he said Judge not, but if you do, you ALSO will be judged.
            Jesus was all about loving your neighbor AS YOURSELF, feeding the hungry, giving to the poor, showing mercy and compassion.
            You have spent your energy demeaning gays, while Jesus’ exegesis is to love one another.

          • thushjz

            I’m sorry My adopted son whom I adopted at 5 and is now 19 years old took me to the movies for father’s day…what were you saying I was doing with my life and energies again?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Read your many posts demeaning gays; but I’m happy you’ve had a little afternoon respite from your anti-gay agenda of judging others.

          • thushjz

            Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God? That He not only existed on earth but rose from the grave, and is now sitting at the right hand of the Father?, And that He is coming again to judge the living and the dead? Do you believe Jesus Christ is exactly who He said he was? Do you believe Christ will separate the sheep from the goats, and throw the devil and his angels into the abyss, as well as those who refuse to confess that He is King of Kings and Lord of Lords? Do you believe these things? Or do you believe all of that is allegory, story telling, and just moral stories but not really true?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Here’s what I believe that is relevant to our lengthy dialogue.
            You’re way too focused on demeaning gays.
            Try this instead: take out your Bible Concordance, find all the texts on Pharisees and Jesus, and read them in the magnificent language of the King James Bible.

          • thushjz

            So you won’t answer the question…just as I thought…

          • Marshal Phillips

            So you won’t stop demeaning gays… just as I thought.
            I answered the question; you just don’t like my answer.
            The SUBJECT of our dialogue was HOMOSEXUALITY.
            And you have abundantly proven my point that you have an anti-gay agenda of demeaning gays. Read your own obsessive posts again. Carefully, thoughtfully.
            DEFLECTING & AVOIDING the obvious by asking an irrelevant and off-topic “question” is your tactic to AVOID taking personality responsibility for your own posts.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Nevertheless, as I’ve said more than once, you’re a perfectly nice person. AND I wish you well. Peace & Love.

          • thushjz

            I’ve told you numerous times I don’t hate gays…you are purporting to be some kind of bible expert..I see you’ve also debated with numerous people here…I’ll give you one more chance, do you believe Jesus was a man, walked on the earth, died for our sins, rose from the grave? Or do you consider these moral stories and allegory?

          • Marshal Phillips

            I’ve replied a couple of time that I did NOT comment that you hate gays! Please read more carefully.
            I’ll give you one more chance to stop focusing on your anti-gay agenda of demeaning gays. Read your posts again which demean gays.
            DEFLECTING & AVOIDING by asking irrelevant questions is NOT the subject of the article Homosexuality & the Bible and our dialogue.
            I’ve never purported to be some kind of bible expert! I have very reasonably directed people to the Original Sources in the Original Languages when explaining interpretations. Any student of any literature would do that in any literature class studying great works of world literature.

          • thushjz

            The only thing you are directing and pointing anyone to is deception and error, You don’t even believe that Jesus existed and walked on this earth, or Paul..yet you confidently pretend to “direct” people to the real meanings of their teachings?.

            How exactly are you an explainer of Jesus Christs’ words or the Apostle Paul’s when you cannot even admit that Christ was a real man in flesh and blood and died for our sins?

            You have put the cart before the horse, you’ve missed the mark, trying to persuade people what the bible says and you don’t even believe it’s the actual WORD OF GOD. These are not just made up stories or allegory or fables or myths, this is the WORD OF GOD you are messing with and there are dire warnings for those who lead people astray and into error concerning God’s word, here is just one of them.. and it’s even in your preferred King James version…

            Testing the Spirits
            1 John 4:1-6
            Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

          • Marshal Phillips

            You might actually read the texts in the original language written. You have put the cart before the horse.
            The subject IS Homosexuality & the Bible.
            Have you never read a book and analyzed it?
            One hardly needs to believe in the characters and story line to understand the plain meaning of the words when one reads the works in the original language written.

          • Marshal Phillips

            I understand and appreciate your interest in “witnessing” for your “faith”. But our dialogue is about words and meanings in a work of great literature. That is a separate topic than one you have newly interjected.
            I have zero interest in your texts demonstrating your faith belief.

          • Marshal Phillips

            But since you have been lecturing me here’s something to ponder from Paul in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35: literally women are not allowed to sing in church nor respond when the pastor asks for comments or questions, “for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.”

          • thushjz

            “Arsenokoitai” Which is the the Greek word Paul used literally means men…who lie with men….Read the article from Christian research institute….http://www.equip.org/article/is-arsenokoitai-really-that-mysterious/

          • Quinn

            arsenokoitai is the greek word paul used in the scripture sure, but it was also a neologism, and was first used in that verse! and so the common argument is: was the use as “homosexuality” (a consensual and committed relationship between two people of the same sex) or homosexuality as it was known at the time (often times a man cheating on his wife with another man). It is not as cut and dry as you may think, though I do understand why you would believe that

    • Caleb Saruk

      Ha! Denying science is a sin, in what dictionary do those definitions fit? But yes in your incorrect view, not by definition.

      • Marshal Phillips

        Of course denying the reality of science, biology, medicine, psychology and common sense is not only missing the mark it’s being stupid as well.

        • Caleb Saruk

          None of what you said is the definition of sin as you claimed. I was commenting on your incorrect word usage.

          • Marshal Phillips

            “Sin” is a flexible word and can mean different things in different contexts. http://www.onelook.com

          • Caleb Saruk

            Dude you stated your opinion of what you think sin means and I stated mine. Saying it is flexible does nothing for either argument. Stop trying to get others to accept you who don’t. I for one never will and you’re just going to have to deal with that. I’m not trying to change you so stop reacting to my comments as if I am. Do as you want it’s your choice. No one does what they believe unless they have a basis for that belief. I do not wish to waste the rest of my life arguing with you as to why each of us believes the way we do. I know you won’t let this go because you have a need to feel justified about your choice outside of yourself. I simply am not giving you anymore of my time because this issue is not that important in my life. I separate myself from gays and always will, based on what the words of God say, not on your take of those words as I am not you, duh. Now I separate myself from you by removing myself from the email alert I received on your responses. Have a nice life

          • Marshal Phillips

            Relax and consult a dictionary.
            I’m NOT trying to change your mind; this is a public thread for ALL to read.
            “I separate myself from gays and always will”, while Jesus says to love your neighbors as yourself.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Loving your neighbor means leading or driving them away from perdition not making them easy and comfortable in it.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Actually not; judge not, condemn not; or you yourself will also be judged and condemned.
            The entire law can be reduced to Love. Galatians 5:14

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Wrong! Only if you are guilty of the same exact sin. Insolent and impenitent sodomites can’t be forgiven because they aren’t sorry. Ezekiel 33:8-9 says: “If I tell man that he shall die, and you do nor speak out to dissuade the wicked man from his ways [the wicked man] shall die from his guilt, but I will hold you responsible for his death. But if you warn the wicked man, trying to turn him from his ways, and he refuses to turn from his ways, he will die for his guilt, but you shall save yourself.” 1 Corinthians 2:15 says: “The spiritual person judges all things.” 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 says: “But I now write to you not to associate with anyone named a brother, if he is immoral, greedy, an idolater, a slanderer, a drunkard, or a robber, not to even eat with such a person. For why should I be judging outsiders? Is it not your business to judge those within? God will judge those outside. “Purge the evil person from your midst.” John 7:24 says: “Judge with Righteous Judgement.”

          • Marshal Phillips

            Do not judge and you will not be judged. Do not condemn and you will not be condemned. Luke 6:37
            The entire Law can be reduced to LOVE: Galatians 5:14
            Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You are a fool. How can you ignore Ezekiel 33:8-9; 1;Corinthians 2:15; 1 Corinthians 5:11-13; John 7:24.
            Only a soldier of Satan would be so insolent.

            You are impervious to reason. You lack a functioning conscience. You are invulnerable to regret. You are academically anemic. You are intellectually insolvent. You are morally malignant. You are so low you could walk under the belly of a snake while wearing a top hat. And besides that you salute sodomy – the haughty and heathen homosexual monogamy.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Without LOVE for your neighbor you are nothing.
            Ezekiel 13
            You have shown nothing but animus towards the gays.
            Live and let live and let God do the judging.
            Your hatred in every post is self evident.
            And now your are attacking me personally.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Stop looking in your fecal matter smeared mirror when you rifle off your moronic; malevolent and MARXIST madness. Impenitent and insolent homo’s aren’t gay. They are grimy. Impenitent insolent homo’s should receive animus and so should their evil acolytes. You should be attacked because you poison and pollute like all perverts do.

          • Marshal Phillips

            “MARXIST”? LOL, just quoting the Christian Bible, dude.
            But, again, your post is dripping with bile, malice, and hate.
            Try to stay “Christian”.
            If you judge and condemn, you also will be judged and condemned a Pharisee.
            Love is the law of Jesus.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Goal #26 within the 45 goals for the Communist Takeover of America [which was read into the Congressional Record in January 1963 says: “Present homosexuality, promiscuity and degeneracy as normal, natural and healthy.” The ugliness and evil of sodomy is such that it encapsulates promiscuity and degeneracy in one sewer drenched polluted package.

            If homosexuality was normal, natural and healthy, why would it ever need to be presented as normal, natural and healthy?

            Why do you lie every time you move your lifeless Leninist lips?

            You are a pathetic liar who not only misstates what was said but misstates what wasn’t said.

            What you know about the word of God could fit into the head of a pin with enough room left over for each of the 7 billion + world wide inhabitants each to own and occupy 700 quadrillion sq. mile farms.

            You spin and spawn like your God hating father Satan.

            I must confess that I really like hearing from you. You invigorate me by showing almost every body who has responded to you how evil you truly are.

          • Marshal Phillips

            ROFLMAO Dude, something “which was read into the Congressional record” especially “in 1963”! LOL is like something appearing on the Internet today.
            Very amusing to know you retain your obsessive indignation etc. but I’m unperturbed by your vituperation.
            Thanks again for sharing your bile. You have an established reputation now. LOL

          • no more mr. nice guy

            GSFYYHMF! Homo!

          • Marshal Phillips

            Hilarious!

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Homolarius!

          • Marshal Phillips

            One hardly needs to be homosexual to support equality under the law for gays/lesbians.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Unnatural, unhealthy, abnormal and redundant homo’s etc.are not the same as and equal to natural, healthy, normal and complimentary men and women.

            Redundancy can’t ever be the same as and equal to complimentary.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Actually ALL are made in the image of God.
            And ALL the law is fulfilled in one word: LOVE your neighbor as yourself. Galatians 5:14

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Correct! That’s exactly why we have prisons. Some people refuse to accept that they are the created – not the creator. You are such a shallow fellow. All your salutes to Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals [dedicated to Lucifer] are being pulverizing by those who spout them. God doesn’t love evil. Evil is a product of the perverse use of Free Will.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Incorrect!
            We do NOT have prisons because we are ALL made in the image of God AND that we are commanded to Love one another.
            Prisons and jails exist to hold common criminals who commit larceny, theft, and burglary etc.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Does God create people who commit larceny; theft; burglary? Does love mean treating such criminals the same as and equal to those who don’t commit said crimes?

          • Marshal Phillips

            God’s kingdom is NOT of this earth.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            What kingdom is it to which you refer?

          • Marshal Phillips

            John 18:36

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Where is the kingdom referred to in John 18:36 and why did you omit John 18:37?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Jesus himself said his kingdom was not of this earth.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Those who help evil do evil under the guise of love commit unforgivable sins against the Holy Spirit. Thus, they are automatically excluded from God’s kingdom because they have used their “Free Will” to exalt the father of all lies – Satan.

            And why did you yet again omit John 18:37???

          • no more mr. nice guy

            What does “love” look like?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            They aren’t equal. Therefore, they don’t have equal rights unless and until they accept equal responsibilities commensurate with each equal right.

          • bamboodread

            If homosexuality causes disease how comes lesbians are the least likely to get it? You syphilitic-brained cunt

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Is Sodomy “love”?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Sodomy is oral and/or anal sex which almost all humans engage in straight or gay. AND there are much more straights than homosexuals.
            “love”? in a spousal and romantic situation absolutely could be an expression of love.
            Straights around the world routinely use anal sex as birth control.
            Expressions of love do involve using body parts that are areas of arousal and erotic pleasure.
            It’s human.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Satan hates life that’s why sodomy is his most favorite sin. And that’s why God hates sodomy – the infamous homosexual monogamy. Sodomy is always lifeless and often fatal. Without sodomy homosexuals wouldn’t be homosexuals just as without alc
            Your like an alcoholic who thinks everyone else is an alcoholic because you are an alcoholic. If sodomy was practiced as you say, humanity would now be extinct.

            Why did both Supreme Court decisions in Bowers v. Hardwick and Lawrence v. Texas involve “homosexuals” on opposite sides of each suit? Why didn’t each of these suits involve “heterosexuals” on both sides of each suit?

            Has a pregnancy ever occurred in a rectum? Has a pregnancy ever occurred in a male rectum? Who sodomized you when you were young? Why does NAMBLA [a perverted homosexoholic group] have a malignant and malevolent marketing motto: “Sex before 8 before it’s too late”?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Gay and lesbians couples now have the right to marry like everyone else.
            That’s the reality. And the country supports it, except for older fundamentalists.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You are demented. A handful of sodomy saluting federal judges aren’t the people and they aren’t people. They are perverts.

            Why did you ignore all the cogent questions that were asked in the post to which you responded??????

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Why do you refuse to answer the cited questions???

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Has a pregnancy ever occurred in a rectum – especially a male rectum?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Congressional Record – Appendix, pp. A 34-A 35: January 10, 1963.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            We are all called to judge provided only that we are not guilty of the same sin especially grave sin. That’s what Pharisees – like you do. Actually you are worse than a pharisee because you not only do what pharisees do you actually salute what they do.

          • Marshal Phillips

            We are ALL called to Love our neighbors as ourselves and not to judge and not to condemn. Without LOVE we are nothing: 1 Corinthians 13:2
            ALL The LAW is fulfilled in ONE WORD: Love your neighbor as yourself. Galatians 5:14

          • no more mr. nice guy

            What does “love” look like?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Luke 6:31
            Love your enemies. Matthew 5:44, Luke 6:27
            Without love we are nothing. 1 Corinthians 13
            Love is charity, affectionate, warm and personal attachment, brotherly love, a very deep and enduring emotional regard.
            Empathy, friendship, unconditional love.
            God is Love.
            The law is fulfilled in love.
            Love one another.
            One of two great commandments: love your neighbor as yourself.
            Love is the opposite of hate.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            1. Does love look like making it easy for rapists to rape?
            2. Does love look like making it easy for murderers to murder?
            3. Does love look like making it easy for thieves to steal?
            4. Does love look like making it easy for drug addicts to become more drug addicted?
            5. Does love kook like making it easy for alcoholics to become more alcoholic?
            6. Does love look like making it easy for liars to lie?

          • Marshal Phillips

            No. Criminal law will judge crimes and, of course, we are still commanded to love ALL (no exceptions) and to help alcoholics and addicts; and do prison outreach.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            How can you say “no” unless you made a judgement to say “no”!
            Love never means allowing evil to do harm. It means the exact opposite. Otherwise love means suicide.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Just say No! to hate and accept the message of Jesus to Love your neighbors as yourself because the entire law is fulfilled in the word: love.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            How did what you say work out with Hitler; Stalin’ Pol Pot;
            Mao? In other words what happens to good people when evil people refuse love

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Why haven’t you answered the question?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Saying “no” required making a judgement to say “no” didn’t it?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Love does not mean saluting the abomination of sodomy.
            Sodomy isn’t love. It’s hate because it is ALWAYS fruitless and ever more increasingly fatal.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Spoken like a cheery picking soldier of Satan. Satanic Party Line response. What you know about the holistic meaning of the words you state is sacrilegiously stupid.

          • Marshal Phillips

            One hardly needs to be a homosexual to speak of loving our neighbors as ourselves.
            As Paul, the creator of Christian theology put it: All of the Law is fulfilled in One Word: Love your neighbor as yourself.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Sodomy isn’t love. It’s hate.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Rape is hate.
            Your posts are hate.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            The CRIME AGAINST NATURE is defined by one word. That one word is SODOMY. Sodomy is one of the 4 sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance. Rape is dwarfed in comparison by sodomy.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Rape is a crime of hateful forceful cruelty and is punishable severely by imprisonment for many years.
            Oral and anal human sexual activity by straights and gays alike is neither hateful nor criminal.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Why is the CRIME AGAINST NATURE defined by Webster as Sodomy? Stop exaggerating exceptions. Stop blame shifting! Stop finger pointing! Stop scapegoat making! Stop making up facts! Stop lying! And stop pretending not to be a homo!

            Rape is a crime of hate. Men who rape women should lose the genital weapon they used to conduct the rape.
            Since sodomy is an ABOMINATION and an inverted and perverted unnatural anti-sexual disorientation that stands alone at the pinnacles of perversion, sodomy is hate on steroids. It’s always wrong and never necessary because it is always fruitless and often [and ever more increasingly so] fatal.

            Saluting sodomy is the ultimate neutron bomb custom made for those who intend to end humanity as we have always known it.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Oral and anal sex is found among straight couples

          • no more mr. nice guy

            At best you are comparing someone who occasionally goes to a cocktail party and has a few wine spritzers to someone who always goes to cocktail parties and consumes several bottles of wine who then drives home totally inebriated endangering innocent people.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Consult those in science who study human sexual behavior.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Consult a shock therapist and then stop cavorting with scientific wild ass guessers who who use the cover of science to sell inhumane and dehumanized anti-sexual behaviors…behaviors so low that those who frequent them could walk under the bellies of serpents wearing top hats…behaviors so low that even filthy soulless animals
            can’t or won’t do.

          • Marshal Phillips

            It would be shocking indeed if you consulted scientific experts in human sexual behavior!

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You mean the homo’s who call themselves scientists.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Only abnormal , unnatural and unhealthy couples.
            If what you imply is true, human life would cease to exist.
            Stop dancing! Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?

          • Marshal Phillips

            You are uncomfortable with the facts of sexual life among straight couples which includes oral and anal sex used as a form of birth control.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Has a pregnancy ever occurred in a male rectum? At least the 4th request. Do you have a degree from the Arthur Murray Dance School?

          • Marshal Phillips

            My degrees are in science, reason, and common sense:
            human beings use the erogenous zones of the human body for sexual pleasure.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You have a degree in perversion and pampering.

          • Marshal Phillips

            I pander to science, reason, and common sense; while you pervert truth. The human body has erogenous zones for sexual pleasure which seems to discombobulate you.
            Nothing like a basic science and psychology for enlightenment.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Webster defines PERVERT as: “one that has been perverted; one given to some form of sexual perversion; to cause to turn and or away from what is good or true or morally right: CORRUPT: to cause to turn aside from what is generally done or accepted: MISDIRECT: to divert to a wrong end purpose: [in the perverted case of sodomy inside a wrong end place] MISUSE: to twist the meaning or sense of: MISINTERPRET.

            Webster defines PERVERSION as: “an aberrant sexual practice esp. when habitual and preferred to normal coitus.”

            Webster defines ABERRANT as: “Straying from the right or normal way: deviate from normal or natural types.”

            Therefore, it is irrefutably and immutably true that when one hallucinogenic male homosexual pervert jambs his penis up into the fecal matter contaminated rectum of another hallucinogenic male homosexual pervert, PERVERSION screams out in degeneracy.

          • Marshal Phillips

            words are flexible: http://www.onelook.com

            Straight Human beings use their erogenous zones for sexual pleasure, including oral/anal sexual activity.

            Look up “erogenous”

          • no more mr. nice guy

            I words are flexible then words can’t be trusted and the dictionary becomes obsolete. You are so over-matched. It’s like hitting the heavy bag. You just wait for it to return so you can hit it again. Your anemic responses are incoherent; delusional and cowardly.

            Is 2+2 always 4?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Look up erogenous zones: http://www.onelook.com

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Perversion doesn’t occur in erogenous zones? It relies on them you dimwit.

          • Marshal Phillips

            The mouth, the anus are a part of the human erogenous zones. You would benefit from science and biology.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Words are flexible: http://www.onelook.com
            Look up “erogenous zones”
            It is perfectly normal and natural for ALL humans straight and gay to use their erogenous zones for pleasure.
            And they do, it is part and parcel of what makes a normal human being.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You are a promiscuous and a perverted self contained erogenous zone.

          • Marshal Phillips

            You seem upset when confronted by science and biology: straight couples engage in oral/anal sexual pleasure with their erogenous zones which is perfectly normal and natural for humans. And it is used to avoid pregnancy.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Webster’s Roget’s Thesaurus defines heterosexual as: “Sexually normal male; sexually normal female; hetero; straight.” Since homosexuals are the perverted polar opposites of heterosexuals, then we can, using Webster’s heterosexual definition, cite homosexual as: “sexually abnormal male; sexually abnormal female; homo; crooked; bent; or broken.”

            VAGINAPHOBIA is abnormal and unnatural for men. PENISPHOBIA is abnormal and unnatural for women.
            Only the moronic; malevolent and Marxist would contest the obvious.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Today we all know about same sex attraction and gays and lesbians and same-sex marriage and equality under the law etc.
            Sorry that your hateful narrative doesn’t support your avoidance of the Facts of Life: that straight couples engage in sodomy which is oral/anal sex. Because the human anatomy and physiology has erogenous zones of sexual pleasure which humans use, straight and gay alike.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            1.6% of the population are homo’s. 0.7% are a laundry list of hallucinogenic half-homo’s for a laughable 2.3%. Even morons know that 2.3 is less than and inferior to 97.7 you hateful liar who hides and blurs the truth.

            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?
            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Straight couples use oral/anal intercourse as birth control.
            Butt your obsession, focus, and fixation is duly noted.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You can’t answer the question because you obsession with playing in ; eating from and living in unflushed toilets is you addicted perversion.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Erogenous zones meaning inverted and perverted anti-sexual disorientations. Gays are homo’s. Homo’s are’t gay. They are self-loathing: grim; grimy; goofy; and grotesque.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Inverted and perverted anti-sexual disorientation isn’t sex.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your focused obsession with oral/anal sex is perverted.
            Many people gay and straight alike have done either oral sex or anal sex because humans have erogenous zones for pleasure.
            Butt you know that; butt still remain focused and obsessed. I believe I know why.
            Nevertheless Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.
            Peace on Earth and Good Will to ALL.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You don’t know what time it is.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You have forced upon yourself the need to walk around wearing “BUTT PLUGS” to protect against soiling your clothes and you call me obsessed with anal sex and or oral sex on an organ contaminated with fecal matter? You are crazy.
            By the way…why don’t you ask Santa for a new set of “BUTT PLUGS” this Christmas this time without the vibrators. The sound is deafening.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            What you say is asinine – no pun intended- because if it were true humanity would cease to exist. It is forever impossible for a pregnancy to occur in a rectum – especially a insige a male rectum. Moreover, both times the CRIME AGAINST NATURE came before the Supreme Court the combatants on the sodomy saluting side were homo’s not normal people. When/if non-homo’s commit sodomy, the act is just as perverted. Sodomy is an all the time thing with homo’s as shown by the Supreme-less Court. This commie court didn’t decriminalize the CRIME AGAINST NATURE because non-homo’s sometimes did it. In fact non-homo’s were also prosecuted when caught. The Supreme-less Court decriminalized the CRIME AGAINST NATURE because it was a perversion that homo’s always did. The Supreme-less Court obviously discriminated in favor of the fruitless and fatal 1.6% of the general population. Otherwise, Lawrence v. Texas would have confirmed the earlier Bower v. Hardwick ruling. With enough money and whining; bitching and moaning, The Supreme-less Court could eventually determine that day light is illegal because it discriminates against night time.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Paul, the father of Christian theology, said ALL the Law is fulfilled in One Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself, inspired by Jesus who gave us a new commandment to love one another as he has loved us.
            If you’re not gay, you know someone who is, perhaps in your own family, neighborhood, workplace, or church.
            Today Americans overwhelmingly support gays, gay marriage; and reject hate and fear.
            God is love.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            That leaves insolent and impenitent grave sinners out.
            Where does Paul call sodomy “love”? Love means leading or driving the loved one away from perdition – not making them easy and comfortable in their perdition. God hates sodomy! It mocks the purpose of procreation because it is a fecalization of procreation – like flinging fecal matter on to God’s face and then smearing it into God’s face also known as “brown showers”

          • Marshal Phillips

            Paul and Jesus call on us all to love everybody.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Paul and Jesus don’t love sodomites. Only Satan and his soldiers love fecalizing. Love doesn’t mean pampering perverts. I means the opposite. God says: “I live those who love me.” His son says: “If you love me keep my commandments”. Sodomy breaks all 10 commandments. That’s why it’s called an abomination. Abomination means hate. Therefore, God hates Sodomy and those who salute it.

          • Marshal Phillips

            God’s love includes all.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            God loves us so much that he gave us FREE WILL —enough of it so we can send ourselves to Hell. He also taught us FEAR OF THE LORD so that the insolent and impenitent might use their FREE WILL in ways that they don’t send themselves to Hell. Sodomy is a MEGA no! no!

          • Marshal Phillips

            God’s love includes all.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Gays are a part of our humanity.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            They could be and we want them to be. There are many former homo’s. Until they stop being inhumane and dehumanized they aren’t authentically human. Are serial killers humane or inhumane? 44% of all known serial killers were homo’s. Behaviors determine membership. Are insolent and impenitent rapists humane or inhumane?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Paul, the father of Christianity theology, said ALL the LAW is fulfilled in one word: Love thy neighbor as thyself, inspired by Jesus who gave us a new commandment to love one another as he has loved us.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Oral/anal sex is practiced by humans straight and gay who are a part of nature which makes it perfectly natural.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            So all unnatural acts are natural because the unnatural actors who commit the unnatural acts are part of nature?
            Wala! The ultimate get out of jail free card. Remember, we aren’t allowed to “discriminate”. Therefore, we must extend such imbecilic illogic to all other perverted behaviors as well.

          • Marshal Phillips

            oral/anal sex is normal and natural among humans

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Only the inhumane and dehumanized.

          • Marshal Phillips

            You are just unhappy with science and reason.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You are unhappy with truth because all lies and liars hide the truth.

          • James Suddard

            Lol your scape goating homosexuals

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Convoluted response especially when there is no such thing as a homo. All there are boys and girls and eventually men and women. Any deviant variation thereafter is a perversion of boys and girls or men and women. Such are clearly gladly suffer from the inverted and perverted anti-sexual disorientation malignancy. By the way fudgie in the context of your blame shifting remark, the word ‘your’ should have been ‘you’re’.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            People who love their neighbors will lead or drive their neighbors away from perdition – not toward it. You don’t love your neighbor. You love sodomy.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Sodomy in the main is when one insolent, impenitent and hateful hallucinogenic male pervert jambs his penis up into the fecal matter contaminated rectum of other insolent, impenitent and hatefully hallucinogenic male perverts – thereafter having the fecal matter laced penises of the jammer sucked and licked by the jammed. Then the pitcher and catcher roles are tirelessly reversed time and time again.

            At this point sane person much cares what homo’s do to homo’s. They have a death wish fueled by a misery loves company agenda resting on getting to our children. Obviously homo’s can never reproduce themselves by themselves. The only chance homo’s have of replicating themselves is to get to children early in hopes of confusing their first orgasm with perverted acts of sodomy with older men.

            Absent the malevolent desire to murder our children [and given the unparalleled insolence fro homo heathens, no body much cares anymore what insolent and impenitent homo’s do. In fact sane people want homo’s to do what they do more than they now do it because that will mean the self-selected extinction of homosexuals.

            Then we have sodomy saluting siblings like: rimming; bare-backing; bug chasing; taking the express; fulsome street parades; golden showers; brown showers; pegging; fisting; tossing the salad; and hosts of other r, inhumane and dehumanizing anti-sexual perversions too numerous to mention all of which vomit out
            vile and vulgar acts of premeditated and orchestrated evil and hate.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a rectum especially a male rectum?

          • Marshal Phillips

            That is precisely why straight men have anal sex with their wives and girlfriends; it’s used as a form of birth control.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a male rectum?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Does loving our Muslim neighbors mean that Christians should rush into the Middle East; form up in long lines as far as the eye can see; kneel down with their heads bowed and permit the Muslim’s to behead them? Is that what love looks like?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Answer the question asked?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Why have you refused to answer the question?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Answer the questions asked.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Why did you fail to respond to everything in the post below?????

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Why have you danced around to keep from answering the question asked?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Since loving requires making judgments to love, how can we love if we can’t judge? How can we forgive if we can’t make judgments to forgive?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Sodomy isn’t love. It’s hate.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You are one the biggest sodomy saluting homo heathens
            ever spawned from Satan’s rectum!

          • no more mr. nice guy

            All crimes are sins. Why aren’t all sins crimes?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            All sins – like all crimes – are not created equal. Moreover, while all crimes are sins, all sins aren’t crimes. But they should be. The gravity and the frequency of sins matter. The most heinous sins are the SINS AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST; THE SINS THAT CRY OUT TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE; THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS; and NINE WAYS OF BEING ACCESSORIES AND ACCOMPLICES TO ANOTHER’S GRAVE SINS.

            THE SINS AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST is committed when a sinner persistently and willfully withstands the inspirations of the Holy Ghost and dies in an attitude of resistance to Him. This UNFORGIVABLE SIN persists due to insolence and impenitence. The Holy Ghost acts like a man who finds his enemy asleep in the snow, and wakes him, lest he should die from the cold. But the sleeper, far from being grateful for this kindness, thrusts away his benefactor, and settles himself again to sleep. Thus, he who sins against the Holy Ghost, refuses to be aroused from his spiritual topper by the influence of grace. He may also be likened to a sick man, who not only will not have his wounds healed, but accelerates his own death. Sodomy is an ABOMINATION. Abomination means to hate; loathsome; unclean. God calls sodomy an abomination. Therefore, God hates sodomy. Those who defy will die.

            THE SINS THAT CRY OUT TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE are sins of gargantuan malice. They are: 1) willful murder [aka baby killing and butchering]; 2) oppression of the poor and defrauding laborers of their wages [the actual intentions of and results of wealth redistribution] ; and 3) THE SIN OF SODOM. These gravely gargantuan sins are so abominable that every authentic human being should revolt against them.

            THE FIRST OF THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS is PRIDE.
            This is the sin that resulted in the great fall of Lucifer and his cadre of prideful fallen angels who were booted from heaven after a pulverizing battle. The created angels thought they were better than the Creator who created them. Homo’s spout HOMO PRIDE. And yet when someone merely describes the well known acts; behaviors; habits and hobbies that make homo’s so PRIDEFUL, they flip out and fly into hateful rages proving that they want to hide the malevolent lies they are living. The failed assault on Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty is illustrative. If homo’s are so proud of being homo’s shouldn’t they have exalted what Phil Robertson said especially when they are so prideful of doing what Mr. Robertson so correctly stated?

            NINE WAYS OF BEING ACCESSORIES AND ACCOMPLICES TO ANOTHER’S GRAVE SINS: By Counsel; By Command; By Consent; By Provocation; By Praise or Flattery; By Concealment; By Partaking; By Silence; By Defending ILL or Evil.

            I have just performed two spiritual acts of Mercy; ADMONISH THE SINNER & INSTRUCT THE IGNORANT.

            In your obstinant case, and since the kick hasn’t worked, maybe this kiss will.

          • Marshal Phillips

            This will be my valediction to your obsession with your hate the gays campaign:
            Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself; and Paul said the entire law is fulfilled in one word: LOVE your neighbor as yourself.
            God is love.
            Your cloying insincerity and misguided attempt to demonize the gays has failed.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Sins against the Holy Spirit aren’t love. They are hate.

            Sins That Cry Out To Heaven For Vengeance aren’t love.They are hate.

            The Seven Deadly Sins – especially PRIDE – aren’t love. They are hate. “Sit tibi copi, sit sapienta, formaque detur, in quinat omnia sola superbia si comitur.” Though wealth be thine, and wisdom and beauty given, pride alone, if it goes with them, shall mar them all. Like you hateful lying father -Satan- you are not only PRIDEFUL, you are pridefully insolent and impenitent when you mock the word love. Moreover, while you possess ceaseless amounts of perverted PRIDE, you are forever absent wisdom and beauty. Your soulless ugliness is peerless.

            The Nine Ways of Being Accessories and Accomplishes to Another’s Grave Sins aren’t love . They are hate.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Mistreatment of others is hate, not love.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Perversion is mistreatment.

        • no more mr. nice guy

          If you are against making judgments, why do you support judgments when they are made by fallible men?

        • no more mr. nice guy

          Looking in your fire; ready; aim – shoot from the hip – knee jerk reactive- hocus pocus mirror yet again.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your hateful posts full of animus for your gay and lesbian brothers and sisters and neighbors and colleagues speaks for itself.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            I don’t have any homo brothers or sister because there is no such thing as a homo. Even if homo’s did exist at 1.6 % of the population how can they be enough to be anybody’s anything. Aberrations [at best] aren’t brothers or sisters. Sodomites are less than human in ant event. No one needs to hate homo’s. They do it to themselves by pretending to be something that doesn’t exist.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your hateful animus continues.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Stop looking in your hate filled mirror when you rifle off your imbecilic fire, ready, aim lying is sacred sewage.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your post merely reflects your hate.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Abomination means hate. God hates Sodomy and especially insolent and impenitent sodomites as shown by the INCINERATION of Sodom.
            You hate homo’s because you hate yourself for being addicted to a perversion that many others have left.
            Who raped you when you were little? How often were you raped?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Does God still love Satan?

  • Joe Craig

    Not everyone in the world believes in the same religion as Christians. Because all they have is a BELIEF, and nothing more. You cannot deny other people freedom to live their life because YOU think its wrong or sinful. Not even your own congregation can agree on what is a sin and what is not, nor can they agree on how to interpret bible passages. Most Christian’s don’t live by any part of their bible, but expect other to live by it. I say organized religion should be outlawed and followers sent to prison for life, this way they stop harming society and the world will finally find peace and love.

    • Guest

      Imbecile.

    • Guest

      You’re want to put 2 billion Christians, 1 billion Muslims, 900 million Hindus, umpteen million Jews, Buddhists, Sikhs and miscellaneous believers in jail? Good luck with that. It’d be easier for everybody else
      if we just get rid of you.

      • Joe Craig

        Haha. Religious people are doing a fine job destroying themselves anyway. After they burn their faith to dust I will still be here. Logic, reason, common sense, science, will win in the end.

        • thushjz

          That’s what they said in the first century after Christ, the second century after Christ,the third Century after Christ, the fourth Cent….well, you get the idea

  • Andrew

    Modern understanding sexual orientation did not even exist come about before the nineteenth century. To say that any part of the Bible is about homosexuality is ludicrous.

    • Frank6548

      To claim that committed homosexual relationships did not exist in the ancient world is ignorant. All homosexual unions, romantic and or sexual are sinful. Always has been and always will be. No getting around that.

      • Andrew

        They existed, sure. I’m not really convinced Paul was writing them.

        Your surety that homosexual unions are sinful is just a selfish way for you to justify the way they make you uncomfortable.

        • Frank6548

          There just is no way to claim any homosexual relationship is not sinful. None. It has nothing to do with my comfort.

          • Andrew

            There have been many Christian theological arguments that do just that, not to mention tons of secular ones, and it is disingenuous of you to suggest otherwise.

            “A righteous man hates lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and comes to shame.”

          • Frank6548

            Some have tried, all have failed. My statement stands.

          • thushjz

            My Uncle was gay and died of AIDS, we had many holiday dinners with him, his behavior was destructive, it killed him in the end, my family did not reject him, but he knew where I stood.

  • It’s disingenuous to suggest the Bible teaches against the mistreatment of gays. It actually says to murder them, and provides a lame “godly” excuse for the mistreatment.

    they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.” Leviticus 20:13

    I think we can dispense with an ancient middle-eastern text to clear up much of anything about morals.

    Just treat them as you would want to be treated. It’s called the ethic of reciprocity. Jesus taught it as the “Golden Rule,” but Confucius taught it to, and now evolutionary biology has confirmed other social animals operate with the same ethic.

    • Good Natured: The Origins of Right and Wrong in Humans and Other Animals. (1996) Harvard University Press.
    • Rational Animals? (2006) Oxford University Press
    • Primates and Philosophers: How Morality Evolved. (2006) Princeton University Press.
    • Wild Justice: The Moral Lives of Animals (2010) Chicago University Press
    • Moral Origins: The Evolution of Virtue, Altruism, and Shame. (2012) Basic Books.

    My dog is a better moral guide than the Bible on how to treat folks.

    • Marshal Phillips
      • no more mr. nice guy

        Then why do you pretend to understand it when you vulgarize the word love?

        • Marshal Phillips

          I have NOT vulgarized love.
          Everyone knows the difference between love and hate.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Sodomy – the hateful homosexual monogamy – isn’t love because it is ALWAYS fruitless and often fatal. Sodomy is to natural, normal and healthy sex what anorexia is to normal, natural and healthy diets. Sodomy is vile and vulgar.

          • Marshal Phillips

            If you find oral and or anal sex hateful, then refrain; but
            there is hardly anyone straight or gay that hasn’t engaged in oral or anal sex. And many straight couples use anal sex for birth control. And oral sex is especially popular pleasure for straights.
            You might educate yourself in the actual sexual practices of couples straight or gay.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Really! You exaggerate exceptions to eviscerate norms yet again. Your lying is sacred; divide and conquering; fire, ready, aim; shoot from the hip; knee jerk reactive; Harry Houdini hocus-pocus recitations are laughable. They defy logic, reason, common sense and are [with premeditation]
            pampering the perverse and justifying the unjustifiable.

            Sodomy is wrong no matter who does it. The massive difference is that it is the one and only aberrant; deviant;
            inverted and perverted anti-sexual disorientation practiced by homosexuals.

            Sodomy is homosexuality. Homosexuality is sodomy. Sodomy is what homo’s ALWAYS do.

          • Marshal Phillips

            You may not approve; and yet oral and anal sexual expression is among the things that humans – both straight and gay – do. The mouth and anus, among other organs of the body and skin, are erogenous zones for sexual arousal and pleasure for all humans.
            Take a course in Human Sexuality and discover for yourself.
            Gays/lesbians are a very tiny minority and so The Vast Majority of Human Sodomy (oral/anal sex) is done by straights. How ironic.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Sodomy isn’t sex. It is sexual perversion. Were you conceived in and born into the world via your mother’s or your father’s rectum? Why is it that a worthless and wicked 1.6% of the general population [homo’s] causes EXPONENTIALLY higher shares of ALL sexually transmitted diseases FAR in excess to their puny shares of the general population? Why are homosexual genitals such deadly weapons?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Take a course in human sexuality.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            What you really mean is take a course in inhumane and dehumanized anti-sexual disorientation. Why are homosexual genitals such deadly weapons?

          • Marshal Phillips

            There is nothing like scientific knowledge and information about ALL human sexual activity, including oral and anal sex, practiced by BOTH straights and gays alike.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Why then do a puny 1.6% of the general population [HOMO’s] represent exponentially higher shares of all sexually transmitted diseases as opposed to their insignificant shares of the general population?

          • no more mr. nice guy

            The inhumane and dehumanized who salute sodomy should take a course in humanity and stop behaving lower than animals who eat their own feces.

          • Steve Peterson

            And why does such a tiny minority have so much power that they can PROMOTE their AGENDA worldwide!?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Read the maniacal homosexual manifesto and the 45 goals for the Communist Takeover of America. Evil never sleeps while good often snoozes until to good eventually rise up and do away with the evil and the evil doers.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Because they can? They do live worldwide after all.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Isn’t the NAMBLA [North American Man Boy Love Association] recruiting motto: “Sex before eight before its too late” hate speech?

          • Marshal Phillips

            That group does NOT represent gays!

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Sure they do. That’s like saying abortionist don’t support Planned Parenthood. Also, the word “gay” is a perversion of the meaning of the word because filth isn’t gay. It’s grim; grimy; goofy; and grotesque or foul, filthy, fruitless and fatal. Moreover, there is no such thing as a homo. All there is are boys and girls who eventually become men and women. Anything else is a perversion.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Actually the group represents only themselves.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Actually you are a homo. Homo’s are gay.

          • Marshal Phillips

            One needs not to be homosexual or gay or whatever to support God’s love for all.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Sexual perverts love themselves. They hide behind the “love”word like Satan hides behind women and children. If sexual perverts loved God, they wouldn’t be sexual perverts.
            Does God love evil? Does God love Satan?

          • Marshal Phillips

            All the LAW is fulfilled in one word: love.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            What does love look like in your convoluted opinion?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Love others as you love yourself.
            Golden Rule.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            I love myself which means I refuse to preside impotent in the face of the ugly and evil. Does God love Satan since God loves himself?

          • Marshal Phillips

            The Golden Rule is found in all religions, predates the Bible, and is also found in most ethical traditions.
            Jesus said Love one another as I have loved you.
            Paul said ALL the Law is fulfilled in One Word.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Your love means anything goes. That’s not love. Love those as you love yourself means rapist love to rape so loving other rapist mean loving them when they rape. Now isn’t that special. Your spouting lacks any meaning because your love is exalting and enabling perversion. I love you so keep it up.

          • Marshal Phillips

            All you need is love to love your neighbor as yourself.
            The Golden Rule is as old as mankind and is universal in all religions and most ethical traditions.
            Jesus said to treat others as you would have them treat you… for this is The Law. Paul also repeated that All The Law is fulfilled in one word: LOVE.
            Yes it’s simplistic, so simple that even a child can understand.
            Try this for three days: love others as you love yourself and grant them the same rights you claim for yourself.
            It costs nothing to practise the Golden Rule.
            Good Luck and God Bless as you discover what many Christians already know. Live your own life and leave the judging to God.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Does God love Satan? Does God love Evil?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Let’s ask him when we all get to heaven.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You aren’t part of we. You are part of they.

          • Marshal Phillips

            We are all in the same boat together as God’s children.
            And we are commanded to love one another.
            Only God judges.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You are preeminent in obfuscation and convolution. And you are highly credentialed. You have one degree from the University of Parrot where you secured your “Polly Want a Cracker Degree in Ambiguous Overarching Generalizations.” You have yet another degree from the Arthur Murray School of “Redundant Stuttering Dance Steps.” Yet another from the perdition rich School of Satanic Deceit with a degree in “Soldier of Satan”.

            What you know about the holistic Bible could fit into the head of pin. God judges private sins because they are private. We are called to judge public sins because they are public and because they endanger the general welfare. We are called to judge such sins. The bible is filled to overflowing with calls to judge both private sin when it becomes visible and most surely publicly celebrated grave sin like saluting sodomy. Judging is loving because it calls us to admonish sin not wallow in it. Thus admonishment can help change the impenitent into the penitent and thus helps lead the impenitent away from perdition and toward paradise. Yet FREE WILL exists. That’s why Hell exists. Insolent and impenitent grave sinners want people to think that Hell doesn’t exist and that irregardless of the frequency or the intensity of sin – especially grave sin – everybody goes to heaven. That’s pathetic Satan speak because it’s a misery loves company act of hate [evil wants to drag others down to their level of eternal torment]. As all crimes are not created equal, all sins are also not created equal. KNOWING THAT THE LAW WILL CONVICT A MURDER TO EITHER LIFE IN PRISON OR THE DEATH PENALTY, would you look the other way thus allowing murderers to murder because their crime will be [obviously] judged by God? Since all sin hurts God, why would anyone allow some evil to occur here on earth that hurts God while bringing heartache to their fellow man with the feckless and cowardly cop- out of letting God judge by waiting for it when souls and lives could otherwise have been saved? We are here to work for God not to renege on that obvious accountability as soldiers of Christ.

            There are so many biblical proofs. Here’s just one. Ezekiel 33:8-9 states: “If I tell the wicked man that he shall surely die, and you do not speak out to dissuade the wicked man from his ways he [the wicked man] shall die from his guilt, but I will hold you responsible for his death. But if you warn the wicked man, trying to turn him from his ways, and he refuses to turn from his ways, he will die for his guilt, but you shall save yourself.” Dying here means an eternal sentence in Hell.

            As to being in the same boat…that’s what the ceaseless cosmic civil war has been all about. God claims every square foot of his creation. And Satan has counter claimed the same square footage. The prize is the immortal soul. God wants everyone to get a degree in behavior worthy of entrance into heaven. Satan wants the opposite. Here again a huge number of biblical statements show that we are not all in the same boat. Such a notion supports the evil pressure to see good and evil as indistinguishable – like seeing normal, natural and healthy sex the same as inverted and perverted anti-sexual acts like sodomy.

            Matthew 10:34-36 [again among many others shows that we are not all in the same boat unless and until we behave the same in the same boat] “Do not think that I come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come not to bring peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household.”

            Matthew 10:37d-39 states: “Whoever loves a mother or father more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves a son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever does not take up his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it. and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.”

          • Marshal Phillips

            YES it does bear repeating God
            is LOVE!

          • Marshal Phillips

            Love your neighbor as yourself, practise the Golden Rule, and ALL the law is fulfilled in just one word: Love.

          • Marshal Phillips

            The sin of Sodom was inhospitality to strangers. Several texts support this.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Let’s let God sort it all out, that’s His job, not ours.
            We can only follow what Paul, Jesus, and God have said about LOVE.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            I don’t communicate with you because of you. You are a lost soul because you are sworn to one of the UNFORGIVABLE SINS AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT which in your case is PRESUMPTION OF GOD’S MERCY without contrition; repentance and a firm purpose of amendment. I communicate with you in hopes of saving others from your premeditated “Polly want a cracker” deceit. “Know them by their fruits” in your case means know him by his fruitlessness.

          • Marshal Phillips

            God will judge us all.
            In the meantime love one another.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Polly want a cracker! Polly want a Cracker! Polly want a cracker!

            Why would God judge us if we all [as you claim] automatically go to heaven? Is God’s judgment just a consequence free formality? Does God’s definition of love include the pulverizing battle between his angels led by the Archangel Michael with Lucifer and his fallen Angels that led to Lucifer and his minions getting booted out of heaven? What grave sin did Lucifer exhibit? It begins with a P and has R I D in the middle and E at the end?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Replace hate with love.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            If you were asked about the price of a gallon of milk, you would say “replace hate with love”. You either never answer questions asked or you use the same answer for any question asked. You are hate because you are a coward and a Godless, soulless, life hating, and family destroying deceiver just as your deceitful hero Satan.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Without love and charity we are but sounding brass and tinkling cymbals.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Did Jerry Sandusky of Penn State demonstrate “love and charity” when he “sodomized” countless boys resulting in being convicted on 45 counts of “involuntary deviant sexual intercourse” ?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s.
            The state of Pennsylvania, Caesar, criminal justice system found him guilty and he is incarcerated.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You didn’t answer the question oh wormy one! I didn’t ask you who convicted him. What I asked you is: Did Sandusky show “love” and “Charity” to all those when he did what he did to earn him the sentences he received?

          • Marshal Phillips

            I answered the question. You don’t like my answer.
            And no need to add childish insults again and again.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Did Sandusky show “love” and “charity” to all those he sodomized?

          • Jack Wellman

            That is an excellent point Mr. Stewart. Some of these comments (not yours) are like a page out of Romans (specifically Rom 1:19-26) and some have created a “god” in their own image and their own likeness (or likes).

          • Marshal Phillips

            God will judge.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Thank you! Liars use the word of God to hide behind the very words that have always destroyed them. The horror they cause drags others down with them. Evil needs to learn how to fear good because God is good and FEAR OF THE LORD is vital as a constant companion to FREE WILL. We should never play nice with evil!

          • Marshal Phillips

            “And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or that city (or that Internet thread), shake the dust off your feet.” And move on.
            Matthew 10:14

          • Marshal Phillips

            Asking ME! why evil exists in this world? That is an age old question for God. Why anyone would harm a child; why priests abuse children? Why men abuse their wives?
            Why kids are bullied at school? Why murder, rape, robbery, arson, battery, etc.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            I asked you what I asked you.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Asked at least without snark. But my reply is still the same.
            Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s.
            Ask God why evil exists.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You answered a question that I didn’t ask thus misstating again what I didn’t ask. You’re hostility to courage is so obvious. Your dodge ball techniques are nothing new. They prove what you are and aren’t.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Again, no need for hateful snarky insults.
            If I could answer all the universal questions of mankind wondering why there is evil in the world, I would be worthy of scriptural mention.
            See my final post below.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Truth is never hateful. Deceit is hateful. Cowardice is hateful. Premeditated ambiguity is hateful.

            Your final post as you say is a Cherry Piked [who would have thought a deceiver would hide holistic biblical versus.

            Here’s what Matthew 10:14-15 says:
            “Whoever will not receive you or listen to your words – go outside that house or town and shake the dust from your feet. Amen, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gemorrah on the day of judgement than for that town.”

            Why did you strike out the last sentence? Why did you insert “And move on” when it’s not written in Matt 10:14-15?

            How about Matt: 11:24-24? How about Romans 9:29?
            How about Deuteronomy 32:32-33? How about Genesis 13:13? How about Isaiah 3:9? How about Jude 1:7? How about Judges 19;22-25?

            Given that these verses fit who you are and what you do, why do you ignore or conceal them?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Pedophiles, men or women, objectify children’s bodies; exploit them for their own selfish erotic desires; without empathy for the victim’s feelings.
            You know that’s not love.

          • Quinn

            Look, I’m a Christian born and raised, and it scares me how off so much of this is! I recognise that there are different takes on certain verses in the bible, and as such, that each person’s personal walk with Christ is going to look and sound somewhat different, but really? We are not called to judge sins, we are called to help others in sin, a minor word change but major theology change. It’s not our job to judge them, but rather, to guide them towards Christ. Also, does anyone remember Jesus’ parable of that plank in your eye and the speck of dust in the other person’s? Because I surely have a hard time forgetting that particular verse. The “unforgivable sin?” It is never named in the bible, so any speculation on what it is, is just that, speculation. I am up for criticism, feel free to tell me where you disagree! I’m totally open to changing opinions based on proof and facts and theology, but for now this is my take on it, and I worry about yours.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Isn’t guiding them towards Christ making judgments to guide? Doesn’t forgiving require making judgments to forgive? Judging is loving when it leads or drives the so called loved one’s out of or away from grave sin…sin whereby the insolent and impenitent exalt their grave sins while trying to drag others down with them.

            The “Judge Not ” sound bite is an out of context non holistic convolution calculated to spur premeditated confusion. We should never judge based only on appearances. Wisdom teaches: “Common opinion grounded as it is in sensation, hearsay and habit cannot be trusted as a guide to truth”. And “the least initial deviation from the truth is magnified and multiplied later a thousand fold.”

            Judging someone based on appearances only is akin to judging someone’s private sins which we can’t ever judge because we can’t ever know what someone’s private sins are. That’s what “Judge Not” means in part. Such judgments violate one of God’s Commandments [not mere recommendations] “thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. “Rumor Ralph” and Rumor Rita” indulge in bearing false witness. Indulging in gossip; rumor and hearsay about someone’s private sin [which can’t ever be known because they are private] can and often does damage and even destroy someone’s good name and reputation. When done with premeditated and calculated malice of forethought such a “Judge Not” sin is irreparable and thus unforgivable.

            “Judge Not ” properly understood also warns against hypocrisy as often practiced by the Pharisees who railed against sins in public while blatantly indulging in and glorifying the same sins in private like we now do throughout the “modernist” world.

            Then we have prideful publicly celebrate grave sin whereby we must Judge now or be Judged later. When it comes to the CRIMES AGAINST NATURE which is saluting, exalting and making easy SODOMY – the infamous homosexual monogamy, we are called to judge. Refusal to judge gives evil free reign. It’s capitulation and cowardice. Christians are called to be soldiers of Christ in order to become heirs to heaven. Loving the grave sinner can never mean making the grave sinner easy and comfortable in their grave sins. Love can only mean leading of driving the grave sinner out of and away from their grave sins. That demands making judgments. We should help the grave sinner. However, when the grave sinner refuses the help, we must protect ourselves and those we care about from their refusals to be helped. That what judgement looks like.

            Ezekiel 33:8-9 shines the light of day of why we should JUDGE NOW OR WE WILL BE JUDGED LATER: “If I tell the wicked man that he shall surely die, and you do not speak out to dissuade the wicked man from his ways, the wicked man shall die {go to Hell} for his guilt, but I will hold you responsible for his death. But if you warn the wicked man, trying to turn him from his ways, and he refuses to turn from his ways, he will die for his guilt, but you shall save yourself”.

          • Marcy

            I’ve heard that the word wrath is used more often than love in the bible. So if God exists, he’s apparently more than just love.

            And if what you’re saying is right, then no one would have to worry about going to “hell”. Therefore, there would be no Christianity, since people would have no need to fear what happens after death (which is why most people want to believe in God anyway).

          • Marshal Phillips

            According to Paul, the father of Christian theology, “For all the law is fulfilled, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.” Galatians 5:14 KJV
            “Hell is other people.” Jean Paul Sartre

          • Marcy

            So you’re trying to say that one verse about love should preclude all the ones about God’s anger/wrath? If God has no wrath, and is just allllll “love”, we non-Christians have no worry then.

          • Marshal Phillips

            No, not me; Paul is saying that.
            BTW, I’m not a Christian either.

          • Marcy

            I understood that you were quoting a verse. I’m just not sure why?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Because it answers the ultimate question as to what is important in the teachings of Jesus, who also said this.
            I consider the Bible as literature and Jesus as a literary character. Of course, the Bible itself, having been written by several men over many years, can be cherry picked for all kinds of reasons many of which are contradictory. But the ultimate concept of love for others is THE central teaching of Jesus, and, as Paul, the father of Christian theology, said all the law is fulfilled in this concept of love.

          • Marcy

            That still doesn’t just do away with wrath that God feels over sins or whatever.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Agreed, the wrath of the god of the JudeoChristian Bible is well documented!
            He’s a really wrathful guy, among other things.
            The central teaching of the Christian Jesus character is based on love of others. God is another character who is also said to be Love in many texts.
            The Golden Rule (treat others with the same respect you want for yourself) is found in not only the New Testament but all other major religions and most ethical traditions.
            Here’s the bottom line (in my view) fear “God” love others, that’s the story. Two things can exist simultaneously in novels and literature.

          • Steve Peterson

            Marshall Phillips, Biblical scholar and interpreter. LOL!

          • Marshal Phillips

            One hardly needs to be an expert in biblical exegesis to cite scripture and a philosopher.

          • Jack Wellman

            That’s false. The word “love shows up almost 700 times where wrath shows up barely 200 times…so what you heard is wrong and in fact, just the opposite.

          • Marcy

            http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_times_does_the_word_'anger'_appear_in_the_Bible?#slide=23

            anger 234

            http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_times_is_wrath_mentioned_in_the_Bible&altQ=How_many_times_does_the_word_'wrath'_appear_in_the_Bible#slide=2

            wrath 199

            https://www.reference.com/world-view/many-times-love-appear-bible-5dba49951246251c

            love 310

            Those are all King James Version numbers. Anger and wrath is so similar I checked on both. Doing it that way, wrath/anger is definitely more than love. Even not using the word anger, the numbers are very close. But love is nowhere near 700 times. Even if it were–that doesn’t preclude what I said. God is definitely not just all love, as some people would like to think.

          • Steve Peterson

            True, God will judge ALL of us and that includes gay people and their sexual sins, too.

          • Steve Peterson

            The gay agenda will never stop distorting Christianity to further their goals. Their arguments are so pathetic and insulting to anyone with an ounce of honesty and intelligence. Don’t waste your time arguing with arrogant people who care not what Christ has taught all of us, straight or gay.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            We need to protect those who are amenable to their foul; filthy; fruitless; and fatal lies by confronting the lies and the liars that tell them. Evil aggressors have always thrivwed on appeasement. When it comes to saluting sodomy – the homosexual monogamy – silence isn’t golden.

          • Steve Peterson

            Love all but don’t love their sins.

          • Steve Peterson

            Just throw in the “love” word and EVERYTHING IS JUSTIFIED! What a joke!

          • Knowledge Transfer

            God loves all? Wow! Satan will now file discrimination charges based on “equal protection” and “lack of due process”.

          • Marshal Phillips

            The Bible is quite clear on God’s love.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Yes! God loves those who HATE evil. Sodomy is evil.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Sodomy was inhospitality to strangers.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Liar!

          • Marshal Phillips

            Childish insults are not persuasive.
            But biblical exegesis of all references to the Sodom story are.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Now isn’t that special a perverted liar claiming to be indignant about his victimizing PRIDE. Who would have thunk it? By the way do you prefer your fecal with or without peanuts? Do you prefer your butt plugs with or without vibrators? Pampering perversion and pacifying perverts is never persuasive although it make Satan pridefully proud.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Childish outbursts aren’t persuasive of anything, merely reflect on your own projection.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Perverted outbursts are worse still. Answer the questions you freak of nature! I thought you were PROUD of being a pervert!

          • Marshal Phillips

            I’m proud of knowledge and information and understanding coming from knowing the original languages of the Bible.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            All perversion has is common opinion which all to often is grounded in sensation; hearsay and habit all of which can’t ever be trusted as a source of truth. The least initial deviation from the truth is magnified and multiplied later a thousand fold. You are proof abundant. At best you “cherry pick” out of holistic context specific biblical versus to hopefully sway the ignorant or doubtful. You are a congenital liar and a deceiver who is so low that you could easily walk under the belly of your serpentine father – Satan – while wearing a top hat.

          • Marshal Phillips

            You have given a perversion of the truth while I go to the original sources. Your childish name calling reflects on you.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Evil needs to be called evil fecal breath.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your obsession reflects your thoughts.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Your thoughts reflect your obsessive compulsive PERVERSION.
            You are so lost in self-loathing rage and hate that you hang on to an article written in December 2014 trying to instigate or hoping you find soothing support for your inhumane and dehumanized repulsive repugnance.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your obsession has perverted your thinking and commenting on an article written in December 2014.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            My name isn’t Marshall Phillips. You must stop looking in your mirror as you rifle off your knee-jerk incoherent rants.

          • Marshal Phillips

            You’re right my name isn’t “Marshall Phillips”; it’s Marshal Phillips. Try to pay closer attention to spelling. Details matter.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Your name and spelling is irrelevant accept that adding the letter “l” to Marshal mocks the LGBTWAZXCRFBMNLPOIUS etc. filth! Moreover, perverts like you concoct non-existent words like: “curiouser” while many limp wristed homo’s use the punk name Marshall using two l’s. The more letters the better. Right?

          • Marshal Phillips

            I didn’t add that letter to my name; it was given to me at birth and is recorded in all official records forevermore.
            Your choice of words continue to reflect your obsession. You never fail to demonstrate your own personal fixation.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Was you mother male? Were you conceived in your father’s rectum?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your words betray your fixation and obsession.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You are so screwed up you click on the up vote sign on your own drivel.
            Your cowardly refusal to answer questions portrays you freakish obsessive demonic fixation.

            Was you mother a male? Were you conceived in your father’s rectum?

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Your perversion has atrophied your brain beyond the power of discernment.

          • Marshal Phillips

            My knowledge has no perversion.
            But why are you so full of childish outbursts and silly insults in so many posts?
            Your behavior is curiouser and curiouser.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            There is no such word as curiouser? Your fact free nonsense is more and more curious and less and less sane! Treating you like a child would be a bridge too far.

          • Marshal Phillips

            It’s a very well known quote from Lewis Carroll’s “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking Glass”.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            What a come back! Wowie Dowie!

          • Marshal Phillips

            Yup, there is such a word. And now you’ve gone “Down the rabbit hole” another literary quote from Lewis Carroll.
            You’ve gone full mental derangement.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You are confusing rabbit holes with butt holes you pathetic projectionist pervert.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Well, of course, your obsession would lead to you that idea, but whatever, “And now you’ve gone “Down the rabbit hole'”.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You mean “Up the Butt Hole.”

          • Marshal Phillips

            Of course, that’s your obsession, not mine.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            So you aren’t a sodomite???

          • Marshal Phillips

            You continue to demonstrate your obsession.
            No, I’m not a “sodomite”.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You may as well say the Marx; Lenin: Stalin and Obama were not Communist you demented pervert.

          • Marshal Phillips

            LOL Obama: worst Communist Ever! Capitalist president of a capitalist country who uses his personal wealth to invest in Wall Street.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You need a brain transplant.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Back to childish outbursts I see.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Your vocabulary is dwarfed just like your anemic mentality and your absence of morality. If someone asked you a question or provided you with feedback your answer would either be “Childish”; “Obsessive” or “fixation”.

            You are a sick pervert having to go back to an article written more than 2 years ago to fulminate your perversion and inversion.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your vocabulary continues to reflect back on you going back more than 2 years.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Trolling homo!

          • Marshal Phillips

            Still fixed on your interests after 2 years!

          • Knowledge Transfer

            What a moron you are. You play in; eat from; and live in fecal matter filled unflushed toilets and you blame those who warn you against as if they themselves were the perpetrators. You are a danger to the general welfare.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Hoisted by your own petard: your obsessive word choice.
            BTW: I do none of those things you are obsessing over.
            But do continue to post your own fixation.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Look up the definitions for Metaphor and Analogy!

          • Marshal Phillips

            I understand completely. Look up obsessive and fixation.

          • Marshal Phillips

            You’re obsessed.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You are possessed!

          • Marshal Phillips

            The sin was gang rape. Homosexuality is never mentioned. The Bible is quite clear also on the sin of not taking care of the poor.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            What a lying sack of chit you are! You are so low you could walk under the belly of a serpent while wearing a top hat.

          • Marshal Phillips

            More childish outbursts merely reflect your state of mind. Nothing to do with biblical exegesis.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Ah! Poor little pervert. You are to “biblical exegesis” what anorexia is to dieting!

          • Marshal Phillips

            More childish outbursts are not persuasive.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Coward!

          • Steve Peterson

            Yes, God loves all but doesn’t approve of ALL that we do – straight or gay. AND that includes homosexuality, too!

          • Marshal Phillips

            Nowhere in the Bible do those words appear: straight, gay, or homosexuality.

          • Steve Peterson

            Bestiality will soon be legal. Those nihilists and others who believe there is no objective morality have no grounds (nor would they want any) to criticize Bestiality. Let’s get rid of Ageism, too, so 50 year old men can fuck 12 year old girls or boys.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            I think it Bestiality is currently legal in 11 states.

    • Ali Khan

      If your dog knew anything about morals, you would’ve sound more believable. An animal doesn’t know the first thing about ethics, or what is right and wrong.

    • Knowledge Transfer

      Homo’s aren’t folks.

      • Marshal Phillips

        Then neither are Heteros.

        • Knowledge Transfer

          Hetero; homo; bi; trans; tri; etc. do not exist. These are man made concoctions created by the frauds and fakes within the pseudo science called psychology which is mostly based on “feelings” not “facts”. In fact, however, both hetero and homo were “invented” terms adopted by the misfits “witch doctors” in 1900.

          Al there is are boys and girls who eventually become men and women some of who along the way are converted into “inverted and perverted anti-sexual degenerates” some of whom convert out of these ugly; evil; and deadly habits and behaviors.

          As an example, why is it that there are innumerable former homosexuals?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Knowledge exists as do human beings who include GLBT people. It’s a fact.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            It is a convoluted concoction devoid of facts and feelings.

          • Marshal Phillips

            I think you’ve just described yourself.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            You demonstrate preeminence in blame shifting; finger pointing and scapegoat making.

          • Marshal Phillips

            More self description and projection from yourself.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Mirror mirror on the wall who is the foulest of them all…Marshal is! Marshal is! Marshal is!

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your choice of words never fail to demonstrate your own personal fixation.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            I’m not for your personal perversion which is your hallucinogenic fixation.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Please do continue to post your word choices which betray your personal interests.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Convolution!

          • Marshal Phillips

            And after 2 years! LOL Still convoluted.

    • pubpubpub

      Homosexuality is an abomination. Learn it.

  • Guest

    Sexual perversion is adultery, which is to adulterate: to corrupt or make impure.

    2 Kings 22:26
    With the holy one thou wilt be holy, and with the valiant, perfect.
    With the elect thou wilt be elect, and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

  • Gregory Peterson

    It’s called defamation to group the law abiding minority people in with thieves,

    enslavers, liars, perjurers, swindlers etc. Not to mention that unlike with drunkards under the influence of alcohol, people can safely operate heavy machinery while under the influence of Gay.

    I doubt that Gay men lay with a man as with a woman. Why would they want to do that? A straight man might under extraordinary circumstances, I guess. I’ve seen “Kiss of the Spider Woman.”

    In any case, the contexts of Lev. verses are lists would appear to be about what the ancient Egyptians and Canaanites did in worshiping fertility gods, gods similar to Moloch. Don’t do what they did…especially tossing first born male infants into sacrificial fires. As a first born child, I’m especially adamant about that…

    If memory serves, one ancient fertility cult sacrifice ritual was for a man to lay with a cross dressing priest, who would then help facilitate the acquisition of, and except for the god, the man’s “seed” sacrifice. Sperm was apparently sort of thought of as an unformed child. (They didn’t know about sperm cells and the mammalian egg, modern era discoveries, so they understandably thought that sperm was the sole stuff of life. Conception was when the womb accepted the unformed child and began to knit it into shape.)
    Mark 10:6-9 is not about minority sexual orientations, but about who can divorce whom…which is pretty much nobody. It doesn’t condemn legally recognized, civil same-sex marriages. Matthew 19 goes on to make clear what Jesus was doing, which was to discourage men from marrying at all. Do you like like a eunuch because of the reign of the heavens? (I wouldn’t go as far as Origen did, however.)

    Genesis 19:1-5 isn’t about minority sexual orientations, but is instead, apparently about gang rape… pretty much the ultimate in inhospitable behavior. I worry about people who can’t tell the difference between mutually consensual adult relationships (of which I find few in the Bible) and gang rape. Gang rape is about terrorism and enslavement. Mutually consensual adult relationships are about love and pair bonding.

    “Reach out to homosexuals.” I haven’t met a homosexual since the early 1970s, which oddly enough, was about the same time that Negroes disappeared. I suspect the primary reason behind the disappearances is that minority people got tired of being labeled and defined by people of obvious ill will, and presumptuously decided that they would call themselves what they pleased to call themselves. So if you’re going to “reach out to homosexuals,” you won’t find many. Gay people aren’t “homosexuals,” a rather pejorative and obsolete clinical word. You don’t show love when you don’t call people what they call themselves… you show condescending bigotry instead.

    “Homosexuality” is a now much abused,
    modern-era social construct with a lot of scientific baggage. If your
    Bible has the word in it, I would wonder about the presumptions and competence of the translators. What other rather obsolete Victorian era scientific words are used in Bible translations?

    “Homosexuality” is a social construct which didn’t exist in Biblical times. They had other social constructs, usually constructed upon very sexist foundations of patriarchal dominance and feminine submission. Bible translations should not disguise it. The very idea of a free man sleeping with his equal of either sex was a very subversive threat to patriarchal society. Moral people today just don’t care.

    Slavery has been abolished, little thanks to conservative white Evangelicals, and women’s rights movements, from women’s education, to women’s suffrage, to anti-discrimination laws have made their mark on society, to the better, and with little thanks to white conservative Evangelicals.

    And… why did so many Bible translations start using the word “homosexuality” back when the Gay rights movement began to get traction?

    Probably not a conspiracy, but of presumptuous, unempathetic minds lacking in a moral imagination. There is little excuse for that anymore.

    • Guest

      That’s a long long-winded dodge but it’s never allowed to be homosexuals.

      • Gregory Peterson

        Minority people get to pick their own community names and self identities these days. And Gay people generally have chosen “Gay,” which has a long historical slang resonance.

        • Guest

          Whatever. It’s still not allowed.

          • Gregory Peterson

            I don’t understand the point you’re making. Sorry.

          • Guest

            Then you must be very stupid. It has nothing to do with ‘fertility cult rituals’, no one is ever allowed to be a homosexual under any circumstances. It’s wrong and immoral. Is that clear enough for you now?

          • Gregory Peterson

            Yes… I now know exactly what you are.

          • Guest

            I doubt it, but it’s good that you at least understand
            your heresies are rejected.

          • Jeff

            Only christians are bound by the rules of christianity. I’m not a christian, so I don’t care that I’m violating the rules of your club. I’m not bound by them, and nobody in your organization, not even the boss you worship, has the authority to do anything about it.

          • Guest

            OK I get it then, you’re spiteful and come here just to troll.
            Fine, whatever.

          • thushjz

            Then why do you hang out on Christian websites, something must be bugging you, or you wouldn’t be here.

          • Caleb Saruk

            Bosses have authority, that’s what boss means, it means they who are in command.

        • Caleb Saruk

          The name has to fit the act bud. You can’t change the definition of a word.

          • Gregory Peterson

            Gay isn’t just about sex…and claiming that minority relationships are just about sex, as I once heard about interracial relationships, is defamation.

          • Caleb Saruk

            You claimed that not me. You don’t really expect me to believe that when someone loves someone they won’t consummate that relationship. That means sex at some point which at that point describes what I’m explaining. I’m saying the definition of being a Christian is following Christ’s teaching, God who is Christ never supported homosexuality period, something which we will find out on the day of judgement. Until that day let the gay be gay and the straight be straight and leave it at that. God speaks of intereligeous relationships as wrong and tells the Jews that if they want to marry a gentile they are to have the gentile do as a Jew would, but I’m sure that you are trying to argue that God is defaming gays.
            I’m done talking to you, try to convince another you’ve failed here.

          • Gregory Peterson

            Of course a couple will be intimate. But you’re sexualizing Gay relationships in the same way that racists sexualized interracial relationships. But, love is love, regardless .

            God isn’t defaming Gays…you’re defaming God in the same manner as those condescending, rictus smile faced, bigots warning me to do as they said, or God have no choice but to consign me to Hell.

            You don’t speak for God, you speak for a reading of the Bible which you think privileges you at the expense of others. Is it an ego thing? That heterosexual privilege thing not working out for you, so you think that you have to double down to make it work?

  • Carol Lynn Thomas

    Ugh. I say to myself, “read some blogs on the evangelical page” and the first two I see are condemning gays. My daughter is gay and Christian, but it is people like you who have pushed her away from the church. I’m going back to the progressive Christianity page. It’s Christmas and this is what you want to write about?

    • Guest

      You do that, toots, since you don’t belong here.

      • Guest

        I’m a big meanie LOL

        • Marshal Phillips
          • Guest

            What’s this crap?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Jesus’ love for all.

          • Guest

            No, I don’t think so.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself. Judge not; but if you do… you yourself will also be judged.

          • Guest

            So what? How does any of that get you out of all the trouble you’re in, sinner?

          • Marshal Phillips

            Gays are not sinners for being who they are.
            No trouble for them; the “trouble” is when Pharisees judge and condemn them. Live and let live and let whatever god or gods you believe in do the “judging”.

          • Michael Herring

            wrong it says they are sinners we all have sinned where are you getting your crap from? he who says they do not sin are liars oh your saying gays dont sin only christ himself was with out sin and we do have the right to judge cause christ jesus said to test every spirit to see its of god You are not the spirit of God

          • Caleb Saruk

            He didn’t teach anal sex with your neighbour bud, he called that sodomy and destroyed the city named so after the act for committing it. Yes that was the same God.
            You also omitted on the judging part, he said in the same manner that you judge you will be judged. So that reads if you judge to deny God’s law, he too will deny you. Gods law speaks against homosexuality calling it an abomination equall to sex with animals.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Actually Sodom was destroyed precisely because the inhabitants were inhospitable to strangers; had nothing to do with gay marriage equality or even lesbian commitment ceremonies.
            Do you know what the word “abomination” means in the original language written for the Jews?; and what Other Things were ALSO abominations in the same context?

          • Caleb Saruk

            Uh no. Killed for in hospitality yet God commanded to go into the promise land and wipe out the inhabitants, God does not deny himself or his commands. By the way referring to sodom, the men at the door according to you did want to be hospitable to the 3 Angels. You believe want you want, but Christ was not gay or a promoter of gays. Something you know already I’m sure. The meaning of abomination means exactly that, something abhorred or hated, a detestable act. You can try and spin it whatever way you want to please yourself but from the beginning God made them male and female and blessed them and said to them be fruitful and multiply. You can’t multiply in the context referred to there if your gay. Gays are funny in that they forget that if the whole world were gay the human race would become extinct if they stick to their so called nature and don’t do wait straits do, have sex with the opposite sex. You don’t have to justify yourself to me bud your views are for you, but I will never lie and say that God taught that a man should have sex with another man.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Of course, the story is a parable, not literal. But at any rate Lot offered his daughters up to be raped. How’s that for family values!? Later his daughters got him drunk and had sex with him. Wow! Some family! “Gay” is NOT something that was known in the Iron Age of knowledge. The biological and scientific understanding of sexual orientation and gender issues was something that was wasn’t discovered until the 18th century. “Gays are funny…” In my experience gays and lesbians come from straight parents and are NOT “funny” but fellow human beings, neighbors, friends, colleagues, even extended family members if not family members.
            God didn’t teach “sex”. Humans discover their sexual orientation: straight, gay, bi, lesbian, transgender.
            You’re so busy judging and condemning something you know NOTHING about. Educate yourself.

          • Caleb Saruk

            You people need to learn who’s judging as those are not my words and I can’t take ownership of them. Therefore I am only passing on the words, just like a passenger tells you when you are speeding, the passenger didn’t make the law he only said what the law contained.
            Not a parable, and clearly you missed what I ment about funny. You and I will not decide what is said by God’s word but at the Judgement day there won’t even be an argument to be made simply a casting in to the fire of the unfaithful ones. I commit the Judgement into Gods hands, on that day The Lord will rebuke the disobedient ones, the rest is just opinions

          • Marshal Phillips

            You might educate yourself as to biblical exegesis AND common sense about Lot offering his daughters to be raped and later the daughters getting their dad drunk and having sex.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You are a parable not literal.

          • Michael Herring

            wrong again the man asked to get to know the angels which is of sexuall content get a concordiance bible and a study bible that is why they were destroyed!!!
            before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that _before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.” Genesis 19:1-5 .” Genesis 19:1-5

          • no more mr. nice guy

            He’s crap!

          • Marshal Phillips

            Tell us again the story about Lot offering his daughters to be raped by strangers and later the daughters getting their dad drunk and having sex with him. LOL

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Pampered punks, perverts, and promiscuous prissy prima donna”s like you need to spend a lot less time playing in and eating from so many unflusherd toilets. Your fecal matter breath stench is endangering the “general welfare.”
            In other words close your legs because your breath stinks.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Nice “Christian” Talking Points!
            One hardly needs to be homosexual to defend the least amongst us.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Never play nice with premeditated and orchestrated evil.
            Evil aggressors always thrive on appeasements. What you describe as the least among us is the worst among us.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Love your neighbor as yourself.
            “For the entire LAW is fulfilled in one word: LOVE your neighbor AS YOURSELF.” Galatians 5:14
            Inasmuch as ye have done it unto the least amongst us YOU HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME, said Jesus who ate with tax collectors, prostitutes, sinners, and others HATED by PHARISEES.
            Your anti-gay animus is a sin and an obsession which now I’m beginning to wonder about. Hmmm

          • no more mr. nice guy

            Love means giving your self to the loved one willingly. It means wanting the best for them. The best love is helping the loved one gain heaven and avoid hell. Nothing else matters. “Go and sin no more” NOT sin with vigor and glee. You are an insolent, impenitent confuser. The overwhelming unanimous rejection of you blabber by everyone who reads it is evidence and proof.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Love is NOT posting hateful animus tirades against gays.
            Your posts are all about hate.

          • no more mr. nice guy

            You need to change the tape they insert in the back of your empty head each morning.

            HATE is pretending an abomination is love.

          • Marshal Phillips

            Your hateful obsession demeaning gays is duly noted. Again.

    • Caleb Saruk

      You can’t be a gay follower of Christ as he taught against homosexuality, so in being gay you aren’t following him, or dying to yourself as he put it. What’s that old saying? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it’s a duck. Your not a Christian if you don’t obey Christ. If your gay you’re breaking god’s law and lawlessness is sin. If that is who you are then your nature is sin, just like the devil who does what is in his nature to do is a sinner. Do as you wish, but stop lying about it already! It’s the lie people are correcting you on.

      • Ali Khan

        They know about their genitalia and still they persist in their minds that they were meant for this monstrosity. That is a clear indication of a mental disorder which is why they are plagued by so many STDs that are getting worse even as I write this. God was right in the first place when He told us specifically to put them to death.

    • Michael Herring

      if she practices being gay then she according to the scriptures dont believe in the gospel of glory she needs to repent lots of love to you and your family

    • no more mr. nice guy

      Good keep her out! We must avoid the near occasion of sin which wallows in inclusiveness. When the insolent and the impenitent are treated the same as an equal to the humble and the penitent, why ever be penitent?
      There is no such thing as a homosexual.Your daughter is living a lie!

    • Kitcat_007

      @Carol Lynn Thomas, stop blaming PEOPLE for your daughter’s sin. God has rules. she KNOWINGLY follows satan.

      EcclesiastiCUS 23:16  Two kinds of men MULTIPLY SINS, and a third DRAWS DOWN WRATH:  like a furnace, cannot be quenched until it is slacked;  (NJB aka Catholic Bible)

      EcclesiastiCUS 23:17. There is the man who lusts for his own flesh;  (NJB aka Catholic Bible)

      EcclesiastiCUS 23:18. he will not give up until the fire consumes him: (NJB aka Catholic Bible)

      EcclesiastiCUS 42:24. All things GO IN PAIRS, BY OPPOSITES, and he has made nothing defective;

      EcclesiastiCUS 42:2)5. the one consolidates the other, who could ever be sated with gazing at his glory?

      All of the Protestant bibles included the same number of books (73 books) as the Catholic bible PRIOR TO the Civil War.

      • Knowledge Transfer

        Exactly! We move as one!

  • An Orthodox Student

    so…why are Christians still using the old testament to support their views? We do not follow the Old Testament/Covenant, but the New. The Old Testament, for Christianity, serves as a history book, a record of the prophecies, and a reminder not to forget our origins in the Jewish religion. We follow the New Testament, the one where Jesus tells us to love everyone and judge no one. I have seen a lot of judgement coming from the “Christian” community and very little love.

    • no more mr. nice guy

      Incorrect! The Triune God has three persons. The Father; the Son; and the Holy Spirit. Primarily God the Father is the Creator; God the Son is the Redeemer [Mercy does not mean the automatic forgiveness of grave sin]; and God the Holy Ghost who sends down the grace of God so that sinners can use their FREE WILL to make judgments.

      The New Testament was reveled in the Old Testament. The Old testament was confirmed in the New Testament. Why pray tell would God the Father send his only begotten son into the world to undermine in any way what God the father put in place???

      As just a few proofs:

      In the New Testament Matthew 10:34-36 says: “Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one;s enemies will be those of his household.”

      In the New Testament Matthew 5:17-20 states: “Do not think I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or the smallest part of the letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place. Therefore,whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. I tell you, unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

      The New Testament is tougher than Old Testament when in Matthew
      5:27-30 it says: “You have heard that it was said that you shall not commit adultery:n But I say to you everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose your members than to have your whole body thrown into Gehenna. And if your right hand causes you to sin cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose your members than to have your whole body go into Gehenna.

      Now let’s clarify and correct what is likely the most overused and abused ill explained misstatement in he Bible which is the cherry picked “Judge Not Lest You Be Judged” part of Matthew 7:1-5.
      Clearly, this statement means “Do not bear false witness against you neighbor” which is one of God’s 10 commandments. As John 14:15 says: “If you love me, you will keep my commandments”. And as John 14:21 says: ” Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. And whoever loves me will be loves by my Father. And I will love him and reveal myself to him.” Proverbs 8:17 says: “Those who love me I also love.”

      Bearing false witness against your neighbor is a grave sin. It festers on hearsay and gossip and it can destroy the reputation of those falsely accused. We can’t ever judge a private sin because we can’t be sure the private sin which is held in private is a sin worthy of judgement. But we are called to judge grave prideful public celebrated sin. We are called to admonish the grave public sinner as they are called to judge us when we pridefully celebrate and brag about grave public sin. The ultimate act of love is leading and driving those we love [including our neighbor and enemy] toward heaven and away from hell. Judging is essential provided that those who judge are not guilty of the same grave sin they find worthy of judging someone else. That’s hypocrisy worthy of the detestable Scribes and Pharisees. Judging known and highly visible grave public sin but not unknown private sin is supported by many biblical verses one of which is John 7:24 which says: “Stop judging by appearances, but judge justly.”

      Th judge not contortion is fueled by those who hate the truth and want to intimidate the ignorant into silence. And it is most useful to the cowardly who hide behind judge not as an excuse for playing nice with evil. Silence isn’t golden. It’s yellow!

  • PunkyAmerica

    Interesting that not one of those bible quotes is from Jesus’ own lips. Not one. Meanwhile, I suggest we start stoning adulterers, since adultery is included in the same list of condemnations.

    • no more mr. nice guy

      All sins are not created equal. Sodomy is an abomination. Abomination means hate. God hates sodomy because it is a vile act of rage and hate. Adultery is a serious sin. Still, it pales in comparison to sodomy because sodomy is forcing body parts into body parts that are never meant for each other. It’s like flinging human excrement in God’s face and then smearing it all over his body. Has a pregnancy ever occurred inside a rectum – especially a male rectum????????

      • Kitcat_007

        @no more mr nice guy, this is from the Book of EcclesiasTICUS (not Ecclesiastes) found in the Catholic Bible (aka The New Jerusalem Bible)

        EcclesiastiCUS 23:16  Two kinds of men MULTIPLY SINS, and a third DRAWS DOWN WRATH:  like a furnace, cannot be quenched until it is slacked;  (NJB aka Catholic Bible)

        EcclesiastiCUS 23:17. There is the man who lusts for his own flesh;  (NJB aka Catholic Bible)

        EcclesiastiCUS 23:18. he will not give up until the fire consumes him: (NJB aka Catholic Bible)

        EcclesiastiCUS 42:24. All things GO IN PAIRS, BY OPPOSITES, and he has made nothing defective;

        EcclesiastiCUS 42:2)5. the one consolidates the other, who could ever be sated with gazing at his glory?

        No more mr nice guy, all of the Protestant bibles included the same number of books (73 books) as the Catholic bible PRIOR TO the Civil War.

        • Knowledge Transfer

          Your point?

          • Kitcat_007

            @Dennis Stewart, God hated Esau AND you sodomites. Got it.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Kitcat: You are either crazy or a sodomy saluting pervert yourself…likely both relying on confusion and convolution to prosecute your wickedness and chaos.

          • Kitcat_007

            @Dennis Stewart, lame turnspeech doesn’t work on me satan, I stand by what I said, didn’t hear me, TURN UP THE VOLUME, GO BACK & HIT REWIND !!!

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Another convulsively convoluted response. Spending too much time paying in toilets always lends to blame shifting; finger pointing and scapegoat making driven by favoring historical deprivation; academic anemia and intellectual insolvency. Lying perverts are to normal, natural and healthy people what anorexia is to normal, natural and healthy diets.

          • Kitcat_007

            @Dennis Stewart, lame turnspeech doesn’t work on me satan, I stand by what I said, didn’t hear me, TURN UP THE VOLUME, GO BACK & HIT REWIND !!!

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Go back and play in your unflushed toilet – PERVERT. Stop stuttering or change the tape that is inserted in the back of your empty head.

          • Kitcat_007

            @Dennis Stewart, ok now you’ve proven you’re mental case, so I’m reporting you. Stop witb the spam and harrassment, take your meds and leave me alone!

            You’re reported NOW !

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Blame shifting; finger pointing; scapegoat making is insane. Your on your way.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Their must be a convolution gene. Or your hallucinogenic blame shifting; finger pointing; and scapegoat making is caused by your pathetic penchant for playing in ; eating from; and living in unflushed fecal matter filled toilets.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            Sometimes grave misunderstandings occur via responding to posts written by others. It is usually grounded in written or listening errors. God does hate Sodomy. God calls sodomy and abomination which means hate. Not all sins are called abominations. God hates Sodomy so, therefore, so do I. Apparently you do too. If you do, we are at odds for no reason. Let me know.
            Calling someone like me a Sodomite is beyond the power of description in its absurdity.

          • Knowledge Transfer

            I couldn’t concur more!

  • Constance Rauser Sheckler

    Thanks for posting this. The problem with so-called Christians is their arrogance after interpreting bible quotes. If you believe being gay is a sin, is your sin “better” than his/her sin? Are you friendly with the couple next door, knowing that it is their second marriage & he left his first wife for his second wife? Jesus taught us to love one another, not judge each other.

    • Jack Wellman

      Jesus taught us to preach the gospel and the Word judges them, not me. Love means you speak the truth and what the Bible says and let God be their Judge.

      • SJ

        Exactly right.

        Everyone has the record of God’s Word to refer to so we shouldn’t have to listen to so many opinions disturbing the peace all the time when so many questions were already decided in the past by the Judge of all judges.

        People without Jesus though are always breaking the peace with their objections just like little kids throwing tantrums except these are adults that never grew up.

        Some people don’t want to grow up and they need to go play in their own sandbox with people like them if they want to throw sand all the time.

    • Kitcat_007

      @Constance, “one another,” means those OF the same FATHER. Gays are of satan (John8:44). Nowhere does the bible.tell us to love ANYTHING OF satan!

  • JohnJay60

    1 Cor 6 lists a number of sins. Is anyone on this thread going to propose to that idolatry be outlawed? that my Hindu neighbors not be allowed to have a polytheist temple in their home? That my gay neighbors not be allowed to marry? that my adulterous neighbors have a law literally making it illegal to commit adultery? There is a serious lack of consistent logical scriptural thinking in in trying to select certain sins as matters of public policy and leaving others to personal choice.

  • no more mr. nice guy

    All sins are not created equal. Abomination means hate. God hates abominations. Does God see children who occasionally sass their parents, the same as and equal to children who occasionally kill their parents? Does God see a common thief who occasionally steals penny candy from a candy store the same as and equal to a thief like Bernie Madoff who occasionally stole hundred of millions of dollars from those who trusted him as a financial adviser? Sodomy is an abomination akin to flinging fecal matter in God’s face. To suggest that it is no worse than other perverted sexual sins is giving it unjust equality.

    • Kitcat_007

      @no more mr nice guy, you are absolutely right.

      Mark 3:29 (summarized ; cursing Christ may be forgiven but. cursing the Holy Spirit is unforgivable)

      Matthew 12:31 (summarized ; cursing the Holy Spirit)

      John 19:11 (summarized ;. the one who has the GREATER guilt)

      The Catholic Church teaches, “mortal sins,” and ,”venial sins.” Because not all sins are equal.

      • Knowledge Transfer

        Exactly! Well said!

  • woman

    you are free to believe whatever stupid story you want, but the moment you try to impose that story on people who don’t believe it, you are committing an act of war, and you need to step the fuck off.

  • James Suddard

    Lol almost all of you are bat shit crazy. Most of you don’t sound like Christians and that’s pretty sad… I’ve looked through many comments and some are sexiest racist and just out right horrible. There is nothing wrong with being gay. If God made us in his image and likeness. And with all his love blah blah blah (incert scripture here) would he condem us to rot in hell for all eternity for following our heart and being with the person that he or she loves.

    Side note no more mr. Nice guy talks about how oral sex is evil so I guess every student in my CATHOLIC high school Is going to hell. Lol I find the comments here amusing and most the people ignorant but…. Because of what I beleive in I except them for who they are and love them anyway. Why do people always get so bent out of shape by what others do and think. Free will y’all the big guy made it a thing for a reason.

    Peace!✌

  • Aaron

    I do agree with much of this article. Homosexuality is a sin and actually a little worse becuase it’s also an abomination. Although it’s no lesser or greater, the media, Liberal/P.C. movement and society in general are not only telling us it’s not a sin, but basically a sin not to accept it.
    Gone are the days of tolerance and “if you can’t sy anything nice, don’t say anything at all”. If someone, especially a Christian doesn’t celebrate and especially quite literally celebrate it by baking a cake for what God still calls a religious ceremony, that person can be fined, fired, and soon jailed.
    The Bible is being used by both sides to support their view. I’m convinced that almost every sin can be justified by anyone, layman or theologian to support their view, their opinion which is often based on how they were brought up, by befriending, sympathizing with the other side and of course, good old fashion peer pressure, not wanting to hurt feelings, etc.
    I really want to find someone who put their own feelings, opinions, upbringing, etc aside and seek God though the Holy Spirit for the Author and Creatater of man and the Bible to reveal through conviction, not “feeling”, opinion or human nature.
    So I choose to still go by what the Holy Spirit convicts to me. There is no doubt or human feeling in conviction. When it hits you, it’s a fire shut up in your bones and you know that you know

  • Steve Peterson

    Why is our intelligence insulted by telling us that there is a variety of sins and they are committed by both straight and gay – as if that’s not already a given? Yes, we all sin and are held accountable – that does not change the fact that homosexuality is a sin along with sins committed by straight people. Please don’t rewrite Scripture to suit political and social agendas. God will judge all of us, straight and gay.

  • SWSimpson

    Why obsess over gays & lesbians? In the story of Lot, the men of the town wanted to “know” who the strangers were– because they were inhospitable, arrogance, selfish, didn’t want to share their abundance… they weren’t attracted to the strangers. They didn’t desire them. They wanted to rape them- a way to show dominance, control, to humiliate and demoralize, and to instill fear and shame so they wouldn’t return. That has nothing to do with LGBT who are motivated by attraction, love and desire to have a partner in life.
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  • SWSimpson

    This obsession with gays & lesbians is unwarranted, and speaks more about YOU than it does LGBT people. The original Hebrew word translated to “abomination” (to’evah) was the same word used to describe the Egyptian’s beliefs about eating with Hebrews (to’evah), and the same word used for eating Pork (to’evah). Eat pork and you’re a homo, have sex with your wife while she’s on her period and you’re a homo… TO’EVAH.
    Further, S&G were destroyed because of inhospitality, suspicion of strangers, arrogance, overabundance, being unconcerned, and refusing to help the poor and needy– those were the “sins” of S&G that caused their destruction, according to Ezekiel, and Jesus agreed as he mentioned S&G’s destruction when speaking of how his Disciples might be treated when they are strangers visiting a town. The men of Sodom didn’t want to have sexual relations with the 2 strangers because they were so attracted to them– they wanted to RAPE them as a show of violence, dominance, humiliation, degradation because they didn’t like sharing with strangers, they didn’t want to provide shelter and food to travelers, they didn’t want to help the poor and needy. Rape is about violence, not sex. If a person hits you with a spade, do you call it gardening?