Heaven Is For Real – A Pagan View

The movie Heaven Is For Real opened yesterday.  This essay is an update of a 2012 post inspired by the book version of Heaven Is For Real and other books on the same subject.

One of the good things about internet news and social media is that it’s easy to find people and things you like. The downside is that you can miss things outside your interest zone that are generating a lot of attention in other circles. Since I mainly hang out in the Pagan, UU and liberal corners of the internet, I was a bit surprised when I surfed across reviews and commentary on some very popular books I had no idea existed – books by people who died, went to heaven, then came back to tell their stories.

Heaven Is For Real was written by Todd Burpo, whose four year old son died during surgery, then came back and told of meeting Jesus in heaven. 90 Minutes in Heaven is the story of Baptist minister Don Piper, who was in a serious car crash, was pronounced dead on the scene, but after an hour and a half came back to life and told of visiting heaven.  23 Minutes in Hell is somewhat different – author Bill Wiese didn’t die, but visited hell in a vivid dream he has taken as a message from his God. These are the three I came across in a brief search – a bit of googling shows there are more.

I found three general responses to these books. The nominally-Christian mainstream culture is eating them up. Heaven Is For Real spent three weeks at the top of USA TODAY’s Best-Selling Books list. Other books on heaven have sold well, while the book on hell unsurprisingly sold poorly. We don’t know how the public is interpreting these books, but clearly they address an interest and a curiosity. For all our advances in science and technology, we don’t know any more about what comes after death than our Neolithic ancestors and we’re eager to find out.

Skeptics view them with scorn. Susan Jacoby, who writes an atheist blog for The Washington Post, said “What is truly disturbing about this book’s huge commercial success is that it attests to the prevalence of unreason among vast numbers of Americans.”

Fundamentalist Christians don’t like them either, because the stories they tell don’t line up perfectly with their doctrines of the afterlife, or at the very least are “extra-biblical.” Calvinist blogger Tim Challies said “Some are liars, some are sincere, I am sure. Some have had a Near Death Experience, whatever a Near Death Experience is. We need to be very cautious because the fact is that Satan is capable of manufacturing experiences.”

I haven’t read any of these books and I don’t intend to. The reviews and commentaries are enough to tell me what they’re about – beyond that I have other things I’d rather spend my time reading. But they present an excellent opportunity for us to take a fresh look at the topic of unverified personal gnosis – UPG.

The “I went to heaven” stories are good examples of UPG – religious experiences that are intense and powerful, but mystical and very subjective. Don Piper is convinced he went to heaven, while the rest of us have no way of knowing if he’s right, mistaken, or lying. If we assume he’s not lying (an assumption that’s problematic with strangers, easier with friends, and certain when we’re evaluating our own UPG) the question becomes one of interpretation.

Most religions started with UPG: Yahweh spoke to Moses, an angel spoke to Muhammad, the Buddha received enlightenment. Over time, though, traditions and scriptures arose and religions became fixed. This isn’t entirely a bad thing – traditions are things that are repeated because they’re meaningful and helpful. A strong deposit of tradition and lore means future generations don’t have to keep reinventing the religious wheel.

If we declare that any UPG that varies from ancient myths and known history can’t be authentic, then we’re no better than the fundamentalists who reject the “I went to heaven” books because they vary from the Bible. And unlike what the Abrahamic religions claim for their God, our Gods and Goddesses can and do change – we have far less excuse for this approach than they do.

That way lies stagnation.

Of course, if we accept everyone’s UPG at face value, we’ll constantly be bouncing from wild claim to wild claim. That way lies chaos.

It helps to understand the subjective and non-rational nature of UPG and of mystical experiences in general. While my experiences of UPG are very real – among the most real experiences of my life – they are not concrete, material experiences. The more my interpretations try to shove them into a concrete, material box the less accurate those interpretations will be. The more content I am to accept them for what they are, to accept that non-ordinary reality is no more and no less real and meaningful than ordinary reality, the more accurate and the more helpful my interpretations will be.

So what of the people who say they went to heaven and came back? I’m inclined to accept their experiences as real. They’re in line with many religions’ and traditions’ views of the afterlife and with many reports of near death experiences. As a polytheist, I have no problem believing a Christian would meet Jesus after death – I hope I’m a good enough Pagan that Cernunnos or Danu or Morrigan will guide me across the Veil when my time comes.

Where I part from Burpo and Piper and company is with their claim that their experiences validate orthodox Christian beliefs. Ironically, that puts me on the same side as the fundamentalists. But while the fundamentalists argue that these experiences of heaven are at odds with the Bible (or rather, with their interpretation of the Bible) and therefore cannot be true, I argue that such interpretations attempt to force mystical experiences into material containers. That’s like trying to figure the batting average of a football team.

In the end, I look at these reports as more data points supporting the idea that whatever comes after death will be good.

And what of those who say they visited hell? I am a committed universalist who categorically rejects the idea of infinite punishment for finite transgressions against arbitrary rules. But the stories our ancestors told about the afterlife aren’t all light and love – the Greek Prometheus and Sisyphus come to mind – and sometimes what cannot or will not be learned with gentle instruction can be learned through suffering. And all you have to do is turn on the TV to realize there are thousands of hells causing great and needless pain, right here right now.

As with the visions of heaven, visions of hell are mystical experiences and attempting to interpret them literally and materially is unhelpful. They are reminders that not all is right with the world and it is our responsibility to do something about it.

One of the advantages of polytheism is that affirming our Goddesses and Gods doesn’t require us to deny the reality of other deities. The same holds true for the unverified personal gnosis of the followers of other religions. Because we don’t have an attachment to the details – we don’t care if the streets of the Christian heaven are gold or concrete or tar and gravel – we can take an objective look at their UPG, and in the process learn to do a better job of interpreting our own mystical experiences.

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About John Beckett

I’m a Druid in the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids. I’m an ordained priest in the Universal Gnostic Fellowship. I’m the Coordinating Officer of the Denton, Texas Covenant of Unitarian Universalist Pagans. This year I’m also serving as a member of the Board of Trustees of CUUPS National. I’m a member of the Denton Unitarian Universalist Fellowship.

I write as a spiritual practice. It helps me organize my thoughts and work through ideas and concepts. It helps me evaluate my beliefs and practices against my core values and against what I know (or at least, what I think I know) to be true. It helps me interpret my experiences (religious and otherwise) in ways that are both meaningful and honest.

  • http://www.rendingtheveil.com Christopher

    Thank you. This is an excellent article. The harder we work to use “mundane” (rational and cultural) categories to understand mystical experiences, the more is lost in translation. Sometimes metaphor and ambiguity are the best friends we have.

    Recently, when engaged in a deep meditation with a student, we had a kind of spectacular mystical experience. Later he asked, “was that the soul?”

    “The experience that we had was most likely the same as the experience that others have, that they call the soul. But that doesn’t mean that anything we’ve heard about it is true. It just means that we had the same experience.”

    But it seems to me that keeping an open mind about interpretation of UPGs sometimes seems to require that we have deep, repetitive, and reliable experience with the spiritual aspects of the world.

    Or, to put it more simply, our first UPG usually knocks our socks off. It isn’t until we’ve built up significant experience that we can think our way through these experiences. But (and I’ll shout this one from the treetops) new experiences, no matter how emotional or powerful, do not invalidate all out previous experience — they grow out of it.

  • TheSquirrel

    NDE’s have a rational, proven scientific explanation, people.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/johnbeckett/ John Beckett

      There is a scientific explanation that seems to fit many NDEs. But it doesn’t fit Burpo’s experience very well, and it doesn’t come close to explaining my own non-death-related UPG.

      • TheSquirrel

        So because there is no explanation, you immediately jump to a supernatural conclusion?

        • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/johnbeckett/ John Beckett

          As I said in the essay, I simply accept them for what they are – mystical experiences.

          I don’t have to dissect the goose to enjoy the eggs.

          • TheSquirrel

            Fair enough. I remain unconvinced. If someone tells me an egg made of gold came from a goose I need evidence, to borrow your metaphor. This doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy the eggs either.

          • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/johnbeckett/ John Beckett

            And here’s the main thing: your eggs may look and taste different from mine. But the fate of your soul – or the fate of the world – doesn’t depend on either of us affirming someone else’s unprovable assumptions about the nature of the goose.

  • Unah

    I don’t mind books about near death experiences. Some are interesting and inspiring. You do have to keep in mind that it is common for people in the ICU to hallucinate. In fact, my father was in an accident, and he claimed an angel talked to him. I absolutely believe my father saw this, and he would not lie about it. It is very emotional for him to talk about. I am also aware that he was on a lot of medications, and it was most likely a hallucination. But who cares. It gave him peace, and comfort, so it might as well have been an angel. My problem is with the ‘heaven is for real’ story. It is the story of a four year old boy, as told by the boy’s father. It puts a bad taste in my mouth. If the boy grew up and wrote the book, I would be fine with it. But the father wrote the book, and allowed a movie to be made of this little boy’s very personal experience. It feels like exploitation to me. There is just something not right about it. This boy should have had the right to tell his story, his way, and in his own time.

  • Agni Ashwin

    What does it take to “verify” an “unverified” personal gnosis? Or are all experiences of personal gnosis inherently “unverifiable”?


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