Who will sue over Same Sex OWS Tents?

Sexual assaults and rapes are apparently so numerous at Zuccotti Park in the New York “occupation” that the occupiers are installing single-sex tents:

It’s a safe house from the sex fiends.

Zuccotti Park has become so overrun by sexual predators attacking women in the night that organizers felt compelled to set up a female-only sleeping tent yesterday to keep the sickos away.

The large, metal-framed “safety tent” — which will be guarded by an all-female patrol — can accommodate as many as 18 people and will be used during the day for women-only meetings, said Occupy Wall Street organizers.

“This is all about safety in numbers,” said Becky Wartell, 24, a protester from Portland, Maine.

You’ll want to read the whole story. One woman was groped after trustingly accepting a man’s offer to sleep in his tent. Are we raising a generation of absolute naifs?

On this issue of single-sex tents, I think a more immediate concern might be: when does the sex discrimination suit kick in?

As Kamilla Ludwig, (a feisty lady whom I don’t really know, sorry) tweeted:

“…isn’t CUA getting sued for returning to singe-sex dorms?”

Why yes indeed, Kamilla Ludwig, yes Catholic University of America is being sued for sex discrimination because it is returning to single sex dorms.

Single-sex sleeping accommodations are only sexist when Catholics initiate them, it seems. If others arrange them, it is wisdom.

CUA, a Pontifical University, is also being sued for being too insular, too representative of what it is, and therefore not creating Catholic-Free prayer areas on its campuses.

Meanwhile, at Zuccotti Park news, plans are in the works to advance segregation, so that people can be more insular, more representative of who they are.

Allahpundit at Hot Air writes:

This can’t be repeated enough: With a few exceptions, foremost among them the New York Post, the coverage of OWS protests compared to the coverage of tea-party protests is the worst media double standard in recent history.

Well, he’s right, of course, and you should read his whole post and follow the links. But the double standards are not solely the provenance of the mainstream media. Lawsuit-enthusiasts also seem to pick-and-choose their targets.

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  • Gail Finke

    “Are we raising a generation of absolute naifs?”
    “Naif” is not the word that comes to mind.

  • http://jscafenette.com/ Manny

    It’s really time to break this up. I’ve said this before on the subject. The first ammendment guarentees a right to protest; it does not guarentee a right to occupy and disturb the neighborhood for days at a time, let alone for months. Mayor Bloomberg continues to disgrace his administration. Add this to his list of disappointments.

  • fiestamom

    Allahpundit is so right about the media. Here in Raleigh, I attended two “official” Tea Party events. One at the State Capitol, the other in front of my democrat congressman who voted for Obamacare. At both events, I took my kids and a neighbor kid. I saw people from my parish there. Most of the signs were humorous. Even though the attendees were angry at what the government and our leaders are doing, the “feel” of the event was American pride, and thankful that we could freely protest the government. At no time did I feel in danger. And the media *still* acts like Tea Partiers are the extremists.

    In 2002, I took my then 3rd grade son to a George W. Bush speech in Phoenix. After the event let out, there were hordes of anti-war protesters. The signs were hateful and ugly. I was truly in fear for our safety, even though there were cops there. I’m sure it’s the same people!

  • SKay

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/03/acorn-officials-scramble-firing-workers-and-shredding-documents-after-exposed/

    Now we know that the corrupt ACORN is still in business–and involved with OWS-paying people to protest.

  • http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/ Todd

    I think many of us look to find our advance expectations fulfilled. I don’t buy into the meme that conservative are any more or less moral than liberals, either in their public or sexual behaviors.

    Tea Party rudeness, loudness, and even assault is well-documented, and like those associated with OWS events, is outlying behavior to the majority.

    People have a right to protest. When laws are broken, there is an expectation that officers of the peace will act appropriately. Protesters who violate laws in civil disobedience expect to be arrested.

    Poor behavior has been well-documented on the part of many in this episode: a minority of the 1% who violated the public trust with immoral business practices, a minority of police officers who have addressed non-violent protest with assault, and a minority of hoodlums who have taken advantage of societal upheaval to wreak havoc.

    Consider those on the fringes of the pro-life movement who have murdered abortion providers. Non-violent pro-lifers objected to the association with violent radicals. Yet the situation with OWS is little different.

  • Greta

    Todd, your characterization of the Tea Party “well-documented rudeness, loudness, and even assault” is not anywhere I have seen other than the claims of the left. I remember a reward offered for anyone who cold show proof that a congressman walking through a tea party rally was spit on and it went unclaimed despite the fact that there had been hundreds of video’s aimed at this walk through their middle by the congress people who were writing a bill the protestors were completely against.

    American tradition does not call loud protests at a congressman in a town hall as rudeness but our first amendment right. So if you have some “documented” proof such as arrests or investigations of abuse, trashing and destroying private property, rape, wide spread drug use, marching without permits, camping in violation of laws, and all the rest that is well documented of the mob calling itself a protest, then please show it.

    “Protesters who violate laws in civil disobedience expect to be arrested.” Last time I looked, the protestors where whining about being arrested and calling for the police to go away. And it is far from a minority of protestors who are creating problems. In fact, each of them in viloating laws against what they are doing such as staying overnight in violation of curfew and sanitation laws are breaking the laws set up for a society in a large city. As they do so, they are violating the rights of others by their actions.

    The accpetance and support of this crowd by the Democrats is going to bite them just like the protest of the 60′s led to Nixon election and reelection in very large numbers. People can respect those who come out in protest and do it peacefully and not breaking laws as happened with the Tea Party. When the mob starts to violate law after law, it loses the support of the majority very fast and those who support them in this effort pay a huge price at the ballot box.

    Many in the left celebrated when kids were shot at Kent State because they believed that this would bring about the start of a revolution they have longed for where the conservatives would be thrown out of power. It brought instead the same thing that will happen here and that is a legal voter backlash. Most people realized it was the kids who burned the ROTC building on campus and then threw rocks at the fireman who responded to the fire. they slashed their fire hoses leaving many local fire departments limited in being able to respond to other fires until the hoses could be replaced. These vilolent actions brought in the Ohio State national guard and it was the vilent protestors throwing stones at these troops that led to students being killed. The guard troops were made up of sons, brothers, fellow employees, and fathers. People saw them as being put in place to end mob violence and the mob being responsible for the entire episode that led to these deaths. This more than anything else finally ended the ongoing campus actions and protests as the leadership no longer allowed this type of mob action to fester and grow.

    So Todd, I hope in a way that the Democrats tie themselves very closely to the mobs as they did back in the 60′s. The Republicans waited to see if the Tea Party rallies were going to turn violent and it took a long time for them to be welcomed into the party. That was wise on the part of the Republicans. The more the left condemned them with lies and distortions and calling them names when the people could see none of it was true, the more the left discredited themselves.

    People do not respond well to mobs and each incident of violence, distruction, or disobedience to law does nothing more than drive people against them and those who support them. So Todd, you and other liberals can continue to support these mobs with my full support.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Todd, do you have any links for the Tea Party’s alleged bad behavior?

    I went to three Tea Party meetins—And I can concur: the signs were mostly humorous, the crowd was well-mannered, families were there; there were no sexual assaults, no beatings, no people obviously inebriated, or on drugs, no need for same-sex areas to prevent attacks on women.

    The Tea Party never camped out in one spot, for weeks at a time, taking over public spaces, with all the problems that go along with that: waste disposal, feeding large masses of people, etc. They also didn’t attack banks, or invade Burger Kings, take over shipping ports, riot or prevent ordinary people from getting to work.

    People have a right to protest. They don’t have a right to invade private prioperty, take over public property, meant to be used by everyone, for weeks on end or riot and excuse it as “Protesting.” Riots are simply rule by thugocracy.

    Also, the pervasive anti-semetism is pretty creepy.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    And, of course, I didn’t see anything anti-semetic at any of the Tea Parties I attended.

    (The OWS’s emphasis on class warfare is pretty creepy, too; that never turns out well.)

  • http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/ Todd

    Again, I think we all want to believe the best of people with whom we agree, and less so the people we don’t.

    I support the Tea Party in their right to protest. I can compare what I know and have experienced in Iowa: a minority of troublemakers cause problems in any good effort. There was a Tea Party billboard here last summer associating the president with Hitler. The person responsible took it down. The Occupy events in my town have been pretty mild in my experience.

    I also know that people have a lot at stake in the libertarian message of the TP and the more liberal thrust of the Occupy movement. They do have a serious overlap in their perception of the unfairness and lawlessness of the combination of the 1% and federal politicians. And no doubt, there are serious people looking to discredit either movement. It’s in their best interests to do so.

    I care little for the sideshows in either movement. I’m concerned about accusations of rape, beating, spitting, and name-calling. Some of these are documented, and some not. It’s not my job to do the research for doubters. I’m convinced that each movement has mostly good people, and as with pro-lifers, a slim minority of folks who have gone off the rails.

    The bottom line is that very wealthy Americans have profited from increasing unemployment, government handouts, one-sided lobbying efforts, and the outright bribery of people elected to serve the many, not the few.

    If protests beyond what the TP mustered makes them nervous–all the better. If a non-libertarian can support the majority of polite TP activists, then I expect no less in turn from those who disagree with Occupy, but nevertheless can support free speech, and even civil disobedience in principle, even if they disagree with the point of the protests. You are Americans, are you not? This is still, as far as I can discern, a free country, right?

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Yes, we’re Americans, Todd, at least most of us who post here (The Anchoress gets a British poster, from time to time.)

    And we believe of freedom of speech—but freedom of speech does not bestow on one the right to assault others, riot, attack private property or camp out indefinitely in public places which were, originally, intended to be for use of everyone. Freedom of speech does not, and was never intended to, cover such behavior. Even if it is outlying to the majority, it still can’t be tolerated; a mob is nothing to fool around with, and it takes only a few bad apples to start a riot, or ignite a confrontation. The Tea Party has, so far, avoided these problems simply by not squatting on anything, or camping out in public parks, etc., for weeks on end. Whether you agree with its message or not, the fact is, it hasn’t had problems with large numbers of people assaulting each other, taking drugs in public, rioting, defecating in public or any of the other problems that have been associated with OWS.

    I am glad the Occupy events in your town have been relatively mild; that doesn’t seem to be the case with the ones in New York, Denver, Oakland and other areas. Yes, we want to believe the best of people; however, sometimes in the face of the evidence, that isn’t possible. And, even if individual OWS supporters are well-intioned, the fact remains that they’re simply offering up the same old collectivism/class warfare rhetoric that caused so much damage during the 20th Century (Not to mention a good ol’, heapin’ helpin’ of anti-semetism, which the MSM would be all over it appeared at a conservative rally, but which, since it’s OWS, and they’re “progressive”, we’re supposed to ignore.)

  • Debra Barry

    I think it is time to end OWS tent/camps and go home! After 2 deaths in one week in Vancouver, problems with stove fires and gaseous fumes in Montreal, wooden structures being built that look shoddy in anticipation of the snow…this bunch of people, along with the homeless and mentally ill moving in is just a disaster waiting to happen. While I supported the movement until now, I think we need a Phase 2: concerned, students and workers, hitting the corporations financially through actions like transferring their money from banks to credit unions, Buy Nothing Days every week, boycotts of corporations on a rotating, monthly basis, stuffing self-addressed credit card envelopes with junk mail and posting them….OWS needs to move on to safer and more creative action that we can all buy in to.

  • fiestamom

    Todd- go to pajamas media- and search for zombie’s articles. There are scary/upsetting photos of Occupy Oakland. The photographic proof may change your mind that the OWS is “mostly good people.” Michelle Malkin also had disturbing photos from OWS around the country. The New York Post is also doing a good reporting job on Zuccotti Park.

    Take a look at the pictures, and read Anchoress’ links, they may change your mind.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    Urban Infidel, and Ringo the Gringo, in L.A., have pictures, and stories, too. And Bookworm, over at Bookworm Room, has been following them.

    (Many of us are, of course, “observing” buy nothing days, and boycotting stores—because we don’t have enough money to buy anything. I don’t really see the point of mailing junk mail to credit card companies—unless it’s to make work for the Post Office—but, then, I’m not likely to support the OWS movement, no matter creative they get.)

  • LisaB

    I don’t think this is what the founding father’s meant by free speech:

    “Many, many Oakland residents … feel that this is disrupting every effort this city has made to have economic development,” said Councilwoman Pat Kernighan. “This has set us back 15 years.”

    In the week before Wednesday’s general strike, three businesses pulled out of downtown lease negotiations, including one with 100 employees and another needing 35,000 square feet of space, said Joe Haraburda, president and CEO of Oakland Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/06/MNFB1LQLLD.DTL#ixzz1d4nMI0NC

    Supported by Democrat Barrack Obama

  • http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/ Todd

    “The photographic proof may change your mind that the OWS is “mostly good people.””

    Doubtful. I believe the same about the Tea Party.

    I don’t believe everything I read. It’s easy enough to do a search for “discredit occupy” and find all sorts of interesting stuff.


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