Our Own Worst Enemy

Our Own Worst Enemy May 24, 2019

Roman’s chapter 7 has been described as the titanic battle between the old nature and the new, and it’s a battle royal between the Spirit and the flesh.

None are Good

There are countless numbers of people I’ve witnessed to who believe they’re a “pretty good person,” and have done enough good things to go to heaven, so it amazes me how some people think that the Father Who willed Jesus’ brutal suffering and death on a cross (Isaiah 53), would let them slide because they’re a good person or done some good things. God “did not spare his own Son” (Rom 8:32a), so why do they think He’ll spare them who have rejected Christ? We tend to compare ourselves with others, thinking, “At least we’re not as bad as so and so,” but it’s not wise to compare ourselves with others (2 Cor 10:12). That’s not a good standard to have. We need the very righteousness of Christ (2 Cor 5:21). We could add up all the good works by humans from the time of Adam and that would still not absolve even one sin. “None is righteous, no, not one” (Rom 3:10), and for that one holdout who thinks they’re the exception, Paul again says, “no one does good, not even one” (Rom 3:12b). Twice Paul says “not one” because he knows human nature and our tendency to justify ourselves. We do this by associating our good works with righteousness, but God will not accept our works (Isaiah 64:6). That is self-righteousness, and it is a stench in the nose of God. Only Christ’s finished work will be accepted, so it is not 9 out of 10 who fall short of God’s holy standard, but “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom 3:23).

The Law

The Bible teaches that we all stand guilty before God, and are without excuse (Rom 1:18-22), because “we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God” (Rom 3:19). The Law’s not the problem…the problem is with lawbreakers. That would be us (Rom 3:23), so there is nothing wrong with the Law. In fact, the Law tells us what sin actually is (Rom 7:12), and sin is lawlessness, or lawbreaking (1 John 3:4), “So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good” (Rom 7:12) because it exposes sinful human creatures who are anything but good. Paul says to the Galatian churches which were being infiltrated by law-keeping Jews, “Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith” (Gal 3:2)? We know it isn’t by the Law that we are saved, but only by grace (Eph 2:8-9). The danger is, “all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them” (Gal 3:10). Of course, there is no human that can keep the Law. Only Jesus Christ ever kept the Law and did so perfectly.

The Daily Struggle

After God brings a person to repentance and faith in Christ (John 6:44; Acts 5:31, 11:18; 2 Tim 2:24-26), the battle’s just beginning. They are both, and at the same time, sinner and saint. In the struggle for sanctification, the Spirit helps us, but we are our own worst enemy. Paul wrote, “I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate” (Rom 7:15). That’s me! I don’t always do what I want to do or know what is right to do, but instead, I do what I didn’t want to do, or what I know is wrong. The good news is, the Spirit of God tells us when something is right and something is wrong, but even with the Spirit’s help, like Paul, “I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing” (Rom 7:19), but thankfully, it is the Spirit that tells us the difference between what is right and what is wrong. When Paul finally sees his helplessness, he cries out, “Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death” (Rom 7:24), but then he answers his own question by telling us that it is only “through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Rom 7:25) that he will be delivered.

Conclusion

I am so busy working on the guy in the mirror that I cannot possibly be worried about others who likewise struggle with sin. There are sins of commission, sins of omission, and even in our thought life we can sin, but you are not alone since “No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it” (1 Cor 10:13). Yes, we have met the enemy and it is we! Jesus’ council is, “Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak” (Matt 26:41).

Jesus Christ was tempted beyond what any of us could resist, so “we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin” (Heb 4:15). If there is anyone that understands temptation, it is Jesus, “because he himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted” (Heb 2:18). Wouldn’t you prefer a Counselor Who has been through more temptation than we will ever be? One Who has overcome the world and gave His life as a ransom for us (Mark 10:45)?

We all sin, but we can all confess our sins and be cleansed from all of our unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). As far as God is concerned, if we’ve trusted in Christ, we’ve received the very righteousness of Christ. And that is only because God “made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Cor 5:21). A great big “hallelujah!” would be very appropriate right about now.

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is an ordained elder of the Brethren Church and a Pastor and Prison Minister in the State of Kansas, but also a writer at Christian Quotes and What Christians Want to Know which address questions about the Bible. He also plants ministries like nursing home ministries, Outreach for the poor, and other evangelistic activities, and check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

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  • pud

    There is no such thing as “sin” It is an entirely made up make believe construct to get gullible sheep like you to adhere to the institutions called churches.

    All you do janitor jack is quote from your deranged book. You have never nor do you care to examine it to see if anything in it is actually true. You are the definition of gullible and credulous accepting the word of primitive barbaric ancient superstitious men while forsaking any critical thought.

    Worse jack is your selectivity that purposefully ignores all the contradictions, falsehoods, lies and ignorance your very same book offers.

    You are a cult member pure and simple

    • Susan Jane Elohim

      You’re an internet boob. Do you have any idea how considerate the Pastor has been of your obnoxious rhetoric.

      You try this nonsense on almost any other blog and you would be immediately banned. Try it on Roger Olsen’s blog and he will put your post in pending and delete your post within 5 seconds of opening it.

      This is the Internet for crying out loud and you are bashing a kind hearted man non-stop.

      If they appointed me moderator of this blog I would ban you over and over until you learned some manners.

      Nobody has to read you and your tantrums.

      Why are you so looney that you think the Pastor can’t think for himself. The pastor has a degree in science as well as theology.

      You don’t hold a theology degree. You’re like Stephen Hawking. Theologically illiterate. So your ranting and raving is just that weightless ranting and raving.

      I am going to put you on block now and wait and see when the ban hammer finally descends on you.

      This is an evangelical community blog not your personal punching bag.

      If you don’t care to read Bible topics you should be on an apologetics site or learn how to make your own discussion thread on Patheos and ASK people in to debate.

      You can’t hound peaceful people into debating you, y’know.

      So get off here and try setting up your own thread.

      I hope you repent. The truth will set you free.

      God Bless!

      • pud

        You and other religious lunatics are like cockroaches…you cannot stand the light of reason shined in your face. Olson is a nut case just like you and jack. The only redeeming quality jack has is that he allows the truth to be told that tears his infantile essays to pieces…make no mistake, jack is a coward and would never debate me…but he’s slightly less cowardly than guys like Olson. How many blocks are we up to now? LOL

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          Lol. You’re the coward. Open your own thread or go to an apolgetics blog.

          I know a Christian mathematician who does apologetics online and he will wipe the floor with your logic.

          A university mathematics professor.

          • pud

            Is that so? Set up a debate and let’s see who wipes the floor with whom.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Why don’t you open a thread to all comers?

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Go start your own debate. Here’s the page:

            https://www.debate.org/

          • pud

            no.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            lol

            Debate isn’t really your thing is it?

            I used to take on all comers all the time plus create multiple threads in a forum. Probably why the apologetics school declined me for training.

            I was already doing all by myself what everyone else was going to school for.

            The internet is the world and I can assure you there are a lot bigger heads than you playing this “debate” game.

            But why debate what you know.

            My knowledge is no longer up for debate to try and convince anybody. Not when they can seek and get their own evidence like plenty of people have done.

            Arguing can be lazy and dysfunctional and mindlessly confrontational as you,prove everyday hurling insults at a pastor who does real charity work with orphans and tries to help prisoners get their lives back together.

            He’s in the real world helping people while you lurk in your own imaginary made up world thinking you can control things. You can’t not any more than Madalyn Murray O’Hair could.

            You can’t control the Pastor he’s too busy doing real work.

            So if you want to play your debate game do it on the debate site or you’re not very logical just mindlessly confrontational.

          • pud

            I can debate anyone about nearly everything. Jack doesn’t help anyone..he lies to people for a living and indoctrinates children via terrorist tactics into your sick death cult

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            How to stop being confrontational
            https://m.wikihow.com/Stop-Being-Confrontational

            Jack is an unpaid minister. He doesn’t lie to anyone for a living.

            Terrorist tactics? What kind?

          • pud

            Confrontation is good stupid. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule…that’s how we progress and get rid of stupid ideas like religion.

            The make believe concept of a big brother “god” watching you and sentencing you to eternal torment for not complying is a terror tactic.

            Done.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Ridicule is verbal abuse.

            Christianity has 3 positions on the afterlife.

            You should have learned them all and if one was truer than eternal torment you could educate people to correct them.

            Ridicule is not an ethical way of correcting people.

            But since you have no faith you should have just stayed silent.

            I can’t speak for anyone else but I never had a fear of going to hell even after hearing hell fire and brimstone sermons so you attacking the pastor over eternal torment is meaningless to me.

            Every human being has a mind to determine things for themselves.

            By admitting you ridicule people it shows you do not value or respect independent and critical thinking in others.

            You have issues if you can’t treat others with respect.

            I’ll let you go. You shouldn’t be debating if you don’t value freethinking.

            Really….strangers aren’t your beast of burden to verbally whip on the Internet.

            I hope you resolve your issues. I’m not going round and round with someone incapable of treating others with respect.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Lol….you claim to be a scientist by training.

            I am an INFJ counselor type by birth.

            That means you have to test everything because you cannot just know like I can.

            I AM the people smart one you aren’t and you think you are going to claim to know human psychology. better than a born counselor type person.

            Please stop all the pseudo pschoanalyzing. You’re a scientist and want to test everything and demand evidence because you are not as perceptive naturally as I am.

            God made you to be a scientist. He made me to be the people expert.

            Now I am telling you. Please get analyzed and get your act together.

            You are pillorying an honest disciple of Jesus, an obedient Christian, on the Internet oblivious to his own life witness.

            The Pastor is an honest to God man who allowed God to change him and posted his testimony about it on here.

            You’re not even a good judge of people. How would YOU be able to tell a truly spiritual person apart from the non-spiritual people. Especially if you have a personality disorder.

            Seek some help and don’t come back to this blog until you are fully repentant and actually able to read the Word of God with more understanding than you currently display with all your evil projections on to God and scripture twisting.

            I am so sorry to have to tell you this way but you refuse to be reasonable and go see a psychiatrist.

            God bless. I hope this helps and stop playing armchair psychiatrist. You’re not a natural born counselor like I am.

            Have a great day. Go see the doctor so you can get your act together and go volunteer your time at an animal shelter or something like that. Then you will actually be doing some good in this world using a talent you do have. Why would you try and correct a pastor that engages in charity and doesn’t even insist on people compensating him for his help? Lots of people could hold a debatable belief or two.

            I suspect someone scared you with eternal torment and you did not take it as a warning in your mental condition.

            Go over to Tentmaker and read the whole site.

            Don’t come back asserting a false authority. That is what narcissists like to do. Pretend they are authorities when sometimes they are not.

            Your bag is science not psychiatry so stop condeming all Christians as if you are Dr.Phil gone crazy.

            You are not Dr. Phil. You never have been. You can’t even tell a good Christian living like Jesus from a bad one.

            Peace Be With You!

            Now i am done. Don’t come back ragging and mocking again. You do not have the discernment about people that I have. You just don’t. So repent then ask God to give you some.

            Take care.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            You’re out of your league attempting to do psychiatry on this blog and you don’t even know it.

            That’s narcissism.

            You building a case around your fragile ego by attacking a pastor when you need to go check with a real psychiatrist if you need Cognitive Behavioral Therapy or not.

            You are a real nasty piece of work attacking people on the Internet.

            You might have more than one complex causing all this ill tempered mockery. So please get tested and diagnosed.

            Sin is communicable and you have been letting it rage unchecked for a long time now.

            Be sure to get that help. You have one of the worst cases of atheist xenophobic narcissism that I have ever encountered.

            Please get diagnosed. I would take you to the doctor myself but narcissists like to refuse counseling.

            That’s how narcissists end up alone.

            You won’t deal with your delusions of grandeur and people can’t live with a narcissist who refuses to change.

            Do you live all alone? Did you chase everyone away with your own behavior?

            Seek medical help now.

            God provides free CBT to his believers in the Bible but you rejected Him. God turns sinners into saints and saints into disciples but you refused to know Him and submit to the training.

            Your only option left is a psychiatrist.

            I hope this helps. Peace Be With You!

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          You’re the coward. You would not even meet me for coffee.

    • Susan Jane Elohim

      Sin exists as prisons, mental institutions, crime and other palpable acts by people and places demonstrate.

      God exists too and you pud are not God’s equal to dispute His account of things.

      Sin is your enemy pud but you are allowing it to rule over you. You need Jesus to get your sins forgiven and to learn from him how to beat the repetitive cycle of sin.

      Thirteen Practical StepsTo Kill Sin
      https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/thirteen-practical-steps-to-kill-sin

      You should stop making your banal protests that help keep you enslaved to sin, accept the fact that Jesus died for you and allow him to make a new person out of you that can beat sin.

      Let Jesus make an overcomer out of you. Cf. 1 John 5:5 or else the devil gets to keep making you look crazy by launching spurious attacks on the Pastor.

      Start studying the Bible pud but write this down somewhere for you to see everyday until you have memorized it: “Sin is my enemy and the devil uses it to keep me down. Jesus is my true friend and mentor.”

      You never had faith or went to theology school. That leaves you open to Satan’s deception through sin unless you can start to really pay attention and learn from God.

      God bless!

      • pud

        You said….

        “You should stop making your banal protests that help keep you enslaved to sin, accept the fact that Jesus died for you”

        FACT….”a thing that is known or proved to be true”

        Prove the “fact” in your absurd claim above….

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          Pastor Wellman proves God’s claim with his life testimony.

          God’s not concerned with telling a lot of evil people who can’t be trusted to run this world right how His power works and how He does everything.

          We split the atom to make a bomb and dropped it and He’s going to tell you exactly how he made this world?

          That’s too much powerful knowledge for evil people to possess.

          God is concerned about people and removing them from sin permanently. And all you did was stay a sinner while you rebelled against God.

          Professor Wellman’s life is a fact. A lot of Christians give their testimonies and a lot of these people are God’s works in progress. Some of these people are going to go to work before God has completed His work in them. They feel so confident that God will bring them through that they don’t even hesitate to work for Him.

          You really don’t know theology and if you were wise you would learn it from somebody that is dedicated and consecrated and a full-fledged disciple of Jesus Christ before daring to deconvert anybody.

          You can put yourself in God’s hands with confidence. But not men’s hands. Peter put himself in God’s hands and got out of the boat and walked on the water as long as he kept his gaze on Jesus.

          While Adolph Hitler made a mess of the Germans and their minds because he was only a sinner who never became a saint.

          Hope this helps. You don’t know Jesus though you should by now.

          Most people know not to argue subjects that they are not knowledgeable about. The pastor has been trying to give you knowledge and all you did was reject it.

          So it’s time you got a reality check.

          Please see a psychiatrist If you aren’t intelligent enough to take God at his Word.

          This whole damn world gives proof that both God and the devil exist and all you did was deny that proof to validate yourself while you were in sin and that’s not sane to deny reality like that.

          You get your heart right with God! ASAP or there’s no telling what will happen to you.

          You don’t spit on your Protector. That’s perverse.

          Take care.

          • pud

            “Personal testimony” is not proof..it’s the lowest form of evidence. The world if full of “personal testimonies” of miracle cures from magic crystals to alien abductions.

            “Claims” “Assertions” and “Hearsay” are categorically NOT evidence for anything

            You are an irrational person. You cannot think rationally, clearly or objectively. You’re severely delusional with your “belief” in all these invisible controlling demons and devils. People like you often find themselves in mental hospitals.

          • pud

            “gods” don’t need employees

          • Pastor Wellman does NOT PROVE God’s claim with his life’s testimony. No-one can prove that God exists with their life’s testimony. A person’s life’s testimony might show that some-one is a wonderful person, but they might be deluded about God’s existence.

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          It’s a miracle the human race hasn’t blown the whole Earth to smithereens now that we have nukes.

          Thank God for that and pray the good Lord comes soon and prevents that from happening.

          • pud

            Hey stupid…your “god” is planning to wipe it all out too according to your sick death cult book..or don’t you read it?

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          Listen. Many people don’t know the depths of their own depravity that’s why the devil uses the carrot and stick on them.

          The devil is an imitator. He created nothing.

          He uses the carrot: temptation on people.

          Then he uses the stick: fear.

          Or he lets the world appeal to your vain imagination.

          He could have other methods but those are his main ones.

          Just remember that when the devil knocks you down that Jesus will pick you back up again. That’s the power of divine love.

          We Fall Down
          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3A5s2feN6Yk&list=RDMMA-cAfUPMHxk&index=3

          Some people are so safe and secure in Jesus they don’t realize they have to get the leaven of sin out of their lives.

          And some people have more leaven (sins) than others.

          You let Jesus teach you and take it one day at a time like he says to do in the Sermon on the Mount.

          He will teach you to beat the devil and how to live victoriously free of sin. There could be a lot of spiritual trial and error in that but never fear just focus your mental eye on Jesus until you get good at receiving revelations from God.

          You have 2 voices. A good and a bad one called impulses coming from your flesh nature. But you need to feed the godly impulses and learn to ignore the other bad one.

          Then your life results will start to improve. Don’t be too stern with yourself. You can always ask for forgiveness and God will help you back up until you get to the point that you get sick of falling down and start winning all your battles more and more automatically.

          Sin exists. Ever watched a hoarder show with the house buried under garbage and rats living and running through it. That’s the sin of anxiety.

          Ever watch someone who is 600 pounds on television that should only be 150 pounds. That is the sin of gluttony unchecked in someone’s life.

          Sin is real.

          Your denial does nothing to help Jesus deal with people’s sin or teach them how to get control over human weakness so why are you protesting?

          Some of the greatest atheists of all times knew better than to mess with the spiritual results.

          They didn’t have the great relationship with God but they saw a relationship with Him had a good affect on people’s behavior.

          So you start learning from God.

          The pastor is your friend.

          • pud

            Bla bla bla…same stupid irrational imaginary delusional crap over and over and over. You are sick…very very sick.

          • pud

            Carrot and stick…just like religion! Here, sign up with our cult and live forever in paradise with 72 virgins…don’t sign up and your skin will be burned off over and over….uh huh…

          • pud

            You cannot have a ‘relationship” with an imaginary friend who lives in your head.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            See you have a bias and deliberately try to cut off the relationship with God before it can start.

            I had a relationship with God before I was born. I can never remember not believing in Him and His absolute goodness which we call holiness.

            I was slow in gaining the Bible literacy but the relationship was always there.

            And I did not attend church regularly or Sunday school. I think I was nearly 30 before ever going to a Sunday school class.

            You have a personal motive for trying to destroy other people’s relationships.

            I would repent if I were you. You haven’t got the theological, moral or psychological grounds for your activities.

            You’re just a destructive meddler.

          • pud

            Is that so? Tell us all about your “relationship” that you had before you existed.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            No that would be pearls before swine.

            Try going to a shrink and answering every question honestly without showing off.

            And get a valid diagnosis.

            Who goes on the internet and meddles with other people’s holiest relationship?

            You really don’t care about role models at all so long as you get your’s.

            I am out of here. I spanked you for God enough today.

            You should have figured out the problem lies with yourself a long time ago.

            There are no perfect people.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            I almost told you but you like blind charging people and tear and rending now more than actually locating the truth.

            See Matthew 7:6.

            Go get those tests done. You’re the one with the trust issues.

          • How can anyone have a relationship with any person before they existed? You make all this nonsense up, don’t you? You appear to be delusional, don’t you? Haw can anyone remember anything before they were born? If you had a relationship then, wouldn’t you remember it? If you remember it, how do you distinguish you supposed memories from made up fiction? And why should any rational person believe you?

          • If God does not exist, how can anyone have a relationship with him or her or it? And if he does exist, how do you know which of the thousands of gods that have been invented by humanity is the true one?

            And if you say that the God revealed by Jesus is the true God, then how do you establish your claim? Of the 45,000 different denominations, each with differing theologies, ethics, biblical hermeneutics and church organisational matters, how do you know which one represents the true Jesus?

            According to the website http://www.jesusneverexisted.com, the early church squabbled over differing views of Jesus. There were about 200 gospels and letters (all told) that were written (some in the first century CE and the rest in the second century CE. So how do we know that the 4 canonical gospels are even accurate? Without a reasonable degree of accuracy in the accounts of the 4 Gospels, you have no ground to stand on.

          • DDRLSGC

            You know what you were doing before you existed? The answer is no.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            I suggest you read up on what some of your atheist friends have done.

            Marx let his family starve, Madalyn Murray O’Hair brainwashed her children and hired ex-convicts hoping to control and manipulate their evil tendencies, Stalin killed more than Hitler, Mao killed more than Hitler and Stalin combined, Pol Pot’s killing fields are in the movies, the Marquis de Sade was a sadist, the artist Diego Rivera claimed he was a cannibal, Ayn Rand was a narcissist who destroyed her husband and founded a cult and tried to control people sexually, the Reverend Jim Jones was an atheist Marxist who started a Marxist cult in Guyana and gave his followers lethal kool aid….

            Do the background checks on everybody. Every group in the world contains sinners because sin is a reality in the flesh.

            Marx and Mao never produced a saint of the magnitude of a Bobby or Sherri Burnette so why do you think atheism is superior when so many atheists are just narcissists with delusions of grandeur.

            God took the Burnettes, used them and got results.

            It’s your word against their’s and they can prove by their deeds they are not narcissists while your words show you are one.

            A narcissist has erected an idol in God’s place to himself.

          • pud

            Not my “friends” Don’t care what they did or do. Has nothing to do with the truth of your absurd irrational delusional imaginary claims…..show the “fact” you claimed is actually true…no babble…prove your claims

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Oh really you are the one majoring in ad hominem attacks.

            TRY TESTING YOURSELF.

            Go to the doctor and see if you blocked God with a personality disorder or irrational fear.

            You probably did both.

            Sitting up catcalling at pastors when your own heart and mind aren’t right.

            Ridiculous….and nobody was going to point out that you tested everything and everybody but yourself.

            I know I was a sinner but I did the full surrender to God.

            But you did not test yourself at all. You’re a narcissist in love with yourself so you try to control other people and test their patience but nobody has that much patience except Jesus so you had better repent or your only option is the shrink.

            The shrink in fact seems to be your only option because you refuse to acknowledge that you are not perfect. Too much pride? Or afraid to admit the truth?

            You did not test yourself and you are biased in your own favor.

            Better go see that shrink and take the battery of psychological tests.

            You wouldn’t let God win your battles so go let some human test you and tell you the truth about your hidden anxieties.

          • DDRLSGC

            Stress, poverty, and hunger due to unregulated capitalism has killed about 18 million per year so in about 6 years about 108 million people have died so given another 12 years, Capitalism will killed more people than Communism and with global climate created by Capitalism, you will have more killed by Capitalism by a wide, wide, wide margin than Communism..

          • You haven’t shown with your response to Pud that you can have a conversation “with an imaginary friend. All you’ve done is to reply , Stalin, with irrelevancies about Madalyn O’Hair, Stalin, Mao, Hitler etc. This shows nothing about how you can have a conversation with Jesus.

            First, you need to establish that Jesus existed. Then you need to establish that the NT is a reliable witness to the Jesus of History (if he existed). Then that he died and rose again. If Jesus did exist and is still dead, how can you have a conversation with him?

            And, if you claim to talk to Jesus, you need to explain why this is real and not imagined experience. How does it differ from someone who claims to talk with Zeus and imagine that Zeus is real?

          • How can Jesus “pick you up again” if he never existed? Maybe, you are your own worst enemy. If you’re so good at refuting atheists, why don’t you go to http://www.jesusneverexisted.com and refute that? You’re too scared to go. You can’t even answer simple questions related to evidence for your god’s existence, because every time that you are asked, you dodge the question and reply with a long irrelevant rant.

          • DDRLSGC

            I have seen too many Christians uses fear to whip people into line.

      • frrolfe

        Interesting that you mention “mental institutions” as evidence of “sin”. So, e.g. and for instance, a person suffering a psychotic break-down is sinful? You truly are a very stable genius and, also too, a demonstrably good Christian.

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          I have nothing to prove when everyone can seek God for himself.

          But history itself does prove sin exists. If we were so perfect then why are we still warring in the 21st century?

          Have a blessed day!

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          Faith in Jesus is God’s CBT. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.

          God makes godly God loving people every day.

          The Great Commission never stopped with the Apostles.

          If God doesn’t faultfind and hold grudges against people but instead offers restorative faith to people then why should I?

          To err is human but to forgive is divine.

          Sow to the good because we all reap what we sow.

          Have a blessed day!

          • frrolfe

            Hi Susan, I’m concerned about your mental health. Please seek whatever help is available.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Well sorry for trying to communicate something that makes sense to you.

            Anxiety disorders, depression, anger management, personality disorders, serial killers, etc. could all be considered results of sin.

            You seem to have a grudge you are carrying against Christians targeting us although the Bible says everyone is a sinner.

            So if you have a problem acknowledging that God is right about the human race you can speak to somebody else.

            No one has ever accused me of needing to see a shrink to my face. But a lot of Internet atheist harpies do while hiding on the Net. Why is that?

            Nobody in the real world tells me I’m crazy. Just some militant atheist clowns on the Net who’ve never been checked by a psychiatrist themselves probably.

            Please get a life and get off Christian blogs if you don’t like us.

            You have the opportunity to seek God or ex-communicate Him if you wish. Everyone does. But you don’t have the right to get nasty and personal with people you don’t even understand or know in person on the Internet.

            You’re on block now for your anger management problem which is your problem so stop showering me with it.

            Have a great life and may God bless you!

    • Susan Jane Elohim

      You know you are beat because you’re not a purely independent critical thinker as atheists like to claim to be.

      Everyone borrows ideas from others but which are the best?

      You surrendered your mind to learning worldly ideas so you did not have to surrender to God and could keep on sinning and rebelling.

      But that wasn’t enough for you. You had to go out and meddle with more holy minded people.

      This independent critical thinker thing is partly myth.

      Nobody entertains his own thinking alone. You went to college and learned a whole lot of worldly things about life.

      Everyone is influenced by other thinkers and other people’s thoughts to a greater or lesser degree.

      You can choose to be influenced by as many thinkers as you like but then you have to prioritize them.

      I put God at the top. I am always re-prioritizing everyone else it seems below Him but He is the expert.

      Why that is not obvious to you I don’t know exactly but anybody’s claim to be a purely independent critical thinker is false.

      Everyone in this world is influenced by something or someone and has his own personal motives that he is operating from but a Christian operates from a new heart motive given to him by God.

      • pud

        No you don’t put any “god” at the top…You put a cult, an ancient book and Bronze Age mythology at the top. You’re irrational and gullible…a rube….a totally indoctrinated non free thinking gullible cult member with serious mental issues…like all the religious. If you had been born in Iran you would be a suicide bomber for a “god” that’s how far gone you are emotionally and psychologically

        • Susan Jane Elohim

          Well off now.

          YOU NEVER TESTED YOURSELF.

          YOU BUILT AN ALTAR TO SELF TO WORSHIP YOURSELF.

          THAT IS IDOLATRY.

          I don’t know why you thought you would come up on a Christian blog and try to force Christians to worship you.

          We’re loyal to God.

          So why don’t you establish your own blog to start your cult to yourself over there.

          We worship the Living God on this blog.

          I now consider you a rotten apple and the next block will never come off because I am no longer consorting with incorrigibly corrupt people if I can help it.

          Who cuts off God to worship himself and force others to do that?

          You might be the devil for all I know. After all. This is the Net and anybody has access on here especially the devil who likes to mislead people on the Net.

          • DDRLSGC

            Do you have proof that the devil uses the internet?

      • Pud, unlike you, is a rational and scientific thinker. It is you who is uncritical in your thinking because you hold to the babble of an ancient and ignorant holy book.

        Well you’re not an independent thinker because all your arguments are based on a book full of myths.

  • Susan Jane Elohim

    Quote: We tend to compare ourselves with others, thinking, “At least we’re not as bad as so and so,” but it’s not wise to compare ourselves with others (2 Cor 10:12). That’s not a good standard to have. We need the very righteousness of Christ (2 Cor 5:21).

    That’s exactly what Mahatma Gandhi. He said “I like your Christ but not your Christians” when asked why he didn’t convert to Christianity.

    Thirteen Practical Steps To Kill Sin by Baptist John Piper
    https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/thirteen-practical-steps-to-kill-sin

    The strange thing is Gandhi developed passive resistance from Jesus’ turn the other cheek philsophy and used it against the Christianized British.

    But then Gandhi didn’t have faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and wasn’t a baptized theologically trained up disciple like John Piper is.

    Most savvy Christians know to look to Jesus not to other Christians.

    God is the Potter. The world’s people are His clay.

    You Know My Name, Tasha Cobbs Leonard
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t7owFiihXgg

  • Susan Jane Elohim

    Isaiah 26:12, NASB

    12 Lord, You will establish peace for us,
    Since You have also performed for us all our works.

  • pud

    Think about the utter insanity of what you wrote…try

    “it amazes me how some people think that the Father Who willed Jesus’ brutal suffering and death on a cross (Isaiah 53), would let them slide because they’re a good person or done some good things. God “did not spare his own Son” (Rom 8:32a), so why do they think He’ll spare them who have rejected Christ?”

    What kind of “father” requires a human blood sacrifice? What kind of all powerful universe creating deity sends himself as a human blood magic sacrifice to himself to fix a problem he himself orchestrated?

    How insane and convoluted must your mind be to actually swallow this bullshit?

    It’s all about terrorism with you religious death cult people. A celestial dictator who must love and fear…the definition of totalitarianism….How sick.