Read The Eulogy Today

Read The Eulogy Today May 29, 2019

Nearly every funeral service or memorial service contains some form of a eulogy, but why wait until it’s too late for the deceased to hear it?

Words

Jesus once said that “by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned” (Matt 12:37), so we can see that words are important. Christ went on to say that “whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels” (Mark 8:38). To be ashamed of Christ’s words means we never share Christ’s words, primarily as a way to share the good news. Sometimes we’re too ashamed to bring it up in the conversation, but if we never speak of Christ, then we are denying Him by our silence, however, for those who have passed away, our edifying words may come too late. Our “I love you” comes too late. Or, “You are something special” falls on deaf ears. Are we ashamed to compliment them today, while they’re still with us? We are told to “encourage one another with these words” (1 Thess 4:18), and we presume Paul intended these words for the living! Even though the Apostle Paul was writing this in the context of the coming of the Lord, we still need to hear encouraging words from our family and friends. All too often we can end up in a “quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers” (2 Tim 2:14), so if we are to say anything at all, let our words build up rather than tear down. Let them encourage rather than discourage. Otherwise, it’s best to remain silent.

The Eulogy

A eulogy is basically a speech or piece of writing that gives accolades to someone who has just died. It is an opportunity to acknowledge the importance of the person’s life. The eulogy might include a brief account of their life, education, work, or relationships, but we rarely ever say anything negative at a funeral or memorial service in behalf of the deceased. Eulogies are typically flattering to the deceased, and sometimes include lists of accomplishments or special recognition. This is all good and proper, but my question is, “Why wait until the person is gone to tell them how much they meant to you?” Your words will do them no good if they’re gone…it may make the family and friends of the loved ones feel better, but it does nothing to help the deceased. It’s too late to do that now. These things might have been better said while the person was still living so they could appreciate it, and it would do them good. Words have great meaning. They have the power of life and death (Prov 18:21), but eulogies are words that fall on deaf ears of the deceased, and are intended more to make the living feel better. Of course, that’s fine in itself, but why wait till they’re at the kingdom’s gate!?

Encouragement

Paul knew the power of words, so he was continually suggesting that the church “encourage one another and build one another up, just as you are doing” (1 Thess 5:11). After Moses’ death, God gave great encouragement to Joshua, telling him, “Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go” (Joshua 1:9). In all the churches, Paul desired that “their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God’s mystery, which is Christ” (Col 2:2). Paul said that he personally “exhorted each one of you and encouraged you and charged you to walk in a manner worthy of God, who calls you into his own kingdom and glory” (1 Thess 2:12), so his hope was that they would “encourage one another and build one another up” (1 Thess 5:11), and stop tearing one another down.

Read the Eulogy

Life is so short. It’s like a morning fog. It burns off quickly, and it’s gone. Life is like that. One day your friend or loved one is there…the next, they’re gone. And now it’s too late to tell them what they’ve meant to you over all these years. The time’s passed when you can tell them, “Thank you” and “I love you.” If they only knew how much they’ve enriched your life, so why wait until they can’t hear it? What value is that to them after they’re gone? Perhaps there is value in those words for those left behind to hear, but what should have been said while they were living is now too late for them to hear. Solomon tells us, “Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring” (Prov 27:1). We should never “say, “Today or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year there and trade and make a profit” (James 4:13), because “you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes” (James 4:14). James’s point is well taken. We have no guarantee that tomorrow will come for us, or for those we love. Today is the best of days to tell your loved ones and friends what they mean to you. If you wait…it may be too late. They may be gone, but so may we!

Conclusion

Time waits for no one. We know that life is full of surprises. Today someone is here, and the next, they’re gone. We have no idea what today or tomorrow may bring, so today is the best of days to tell people how much they mean to you, and to tell others too. Words have meaning…but words cannot help those who cannot hear them. Say it today. Have the eulogy. Encourage someone today because we don’t even know if we’ll see them tomorrow.

Article by Jack Wellman

Jack Wellman is an ordained elder of the Brethren Church and a Pastor and Prison Minister in the State of Kansas, but also a writer at Christian Quotes and What Christians Want to Know which address questions about the Bible. He also plants ministries like nursing home ministries, Outreach for the poor, and other evangelistic activities, and check out his book Teaching Children the Gospel available on Amazon.

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  • tovlogos

    Thanks, Jack — interesting, I must say — this brought a smile to my face.

  • Susan Jane Elohim

    Spurgeon when writing of the snare of the fowler said this, Pastor:

    Sometimes the fowler, when he faileth to take his bird by deceit and craft, will go a hawking after it-will send his hawk into the air, to bring down his prey. It often happens, when the devil can not ruin a man by getting him to commit a sin, he attempts to slander him; he sends a hawk after him, and tries to bring him down by slandering his good name. I will give you a piece of advice. I know a good minister, now in venerable old age, who was once most villainously lied against and slandered by a man who had hated him only for the truth’s sake. The good man was grieved; he threatened the slanderer with a lawsuit, unless he apologized. He did apologize. The slander was printed in the papers in a public apology; and you know what was the consequence. The slander was more believed than if he had said nothing about it. And I have learned this lesson-to do with the slanderous hawk what the little birds do, just fly up. The hawk can not do them any hurt while they can keep above him-it is only when they come down that he can injure them. It is only when by mounting he gets above the birds, that the hawk comes sweeping down upon them, and destroys them. If any slander you, do not come down to them; let them slander on. Say, as David said concerning Shimei, “If the Lord hath given him commandment to curse, let him curse;” and if the sons of Zeruiah say, “Let us go and take this dead dog’s head,” you say, “Nay, let him curse;” and in that way you will live down slander. If some of us turned aside to notice every bit of a sparrow that began chirping at us, we should have nothing to do but to answer them. If I were to fight people on every doctrine I preach, I should do nothing else but just amuse the devil, and indulge the combative principles of certain religionists who like nothing better than quarreling. By the grace of God, say what you please against me, I will never answer you, but go straight on. All shall end well, if the character be but kept clean; the more dirt that is thrown on it by slander, the more its shall glisten, and the more brightly it shall shine.- end quote

    There’s more to that quote but I will leave it at that.

    Strange teaching but words do have power. People act on words all the time.

    Have a great day, Pastor!

  • pud

    Tell us jack..who wrote down exactly what “jesus” said? Who wrote down what he said when he was all alone?

    Other than that little bit of insanity I agree with telling people important to you today how you feel about them.

    Probably the ONLY thing you and I will ever agree upon seeing as I’m rational and you’re not.

  • Susan Jane Elohim

    Forgiven, David Crowder
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ZWEO36jok

    God’s love never fails. Psalm 118 and Psalm 136.

  • Susan Jane Elohim

    Great and powerful verse, Pastor:

    “whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels” (Mark 8:38).

    Thanks for not shying away from posting it.

    Many of these adulterous persons who deny sin so they can turn away from Jesus and refuse to obey him will be enlightened then but it will be too late then. People were suppose to form a relationship with him long before that. Today is the Day of Salvation so why wait for a special invitation. God already invited everyone to know Him through His Son.

    Sin does exist. Pornography proves it. Why does a porn addict try to live vicariously through another person’s activities when he could have had a genuine relationship?

    Are these porn addicts failing at having a relationship with God and so that causes them to fail at others so bad that they have to seek out weak sickly substitutes for the real thing.

    Porn proves sin exists.

    But you know what? Some people get addicted to their porn. Addiction is a weakness that someone refuses to get control over and weaknesses like that lead to other weaknesses until a true relationship is hard to attain and maintain.

    Deny Jesus and you denied your better half. The one that will appeal to you and help God make somebody out of you.

    So why settle for a loser? Because pleasure, sin, temptation and weakness set people up to settle for moral, spiritual and relationship failure.

    Just because you got the silver spoon in your mouth doesn’t mean you are a spiritually moral person with great relationships and gained God’s approval.

    So be a seeker. Seek God daily any way you can. Anything else is a cop out in God’s eyes.

    • Why is it that so many Pastors and other Fundamentalists, who claim a relationship with Jesus, are addicted to porn? It’s rife in Evangelical circles.

      Maybe it’s because Jesus doesn’t exist. Maybe it’s because Evangelicals repress their sexuality (Many of their pastors are obsessed with preaching against lust and indicate in their sermons that sex ought to be repressed) , so it bursts forth in pornography.

      (https://brucegerencser.net). Look up Bruce Gerencser’s blog. Bruce was a Baptist pastor for 25 years or so but is now an atheist. Look at his section called “Black Collar Crime.)

      • Susan Jane Elohim

        Sorry but I am not interested in analyzing the spiritual failure of people determined to be spiritual failures any more.

        An evangelist is a type of person that God uses to encourage spiritual success in people.

        I am much more interested in helping people stay in spiritual, mind and body alignment than I am in what makes a failure stay a failure.

        I am naturally analytical but I would like all that analytical ability to be put to good use rather than understanding everything about why a person falls. The failure is significant enough for me to avoid it.

        Each person to an indeterminate degree is responsible for his own success. So I learned early to focus on the spiritual successes of this world and what makes them successful in order to reproduce that success as much as possible in my own life so now I try to use it to help other people get good results, too.

        There is no point in dwelling too long on why someone is a failure.

        You need to focus on the right things and have the right attitude to be a spiritual success and a success in this life.

        I will put you back on block and leave you with that thought. It’s kind of like riding a horse. If you want to get good at it when you get thrown off the horse you have to get back up, overcome your nerves and get back on the horse.

        If you let everything be a fearful obstacle in your head then you can rationalize away not attaining success and I don’t think God wants that for His children.

        I hope you turn everything around some day. I can’t imagine who you hang out with to be so obsessed with sharing other people’s negativity and failures.

        But you can break those bad relationships and repent of listening to their bad counsel designed to produce spiritual failure in you, too. Once you are sufficiently sick of your life results.

        Have a blessed day. Don’t bother replying. This block is permanent. I am always giving people too many chances and it confuses them into thinking I am weak in faith when the opposite is true. I believe nothing is impossible with God. Including saving an atheist.

        But at some point you will have to quit the petty self sabotaging rebellion and really start thinking.

        Otherwise you stay an ignoramus ignorantly promoting spiritual failure on the Net when people have better role models like Jesus to consult.

        Peace Be With You! Bye.

        • So you prefer to live in your make-believe dream world rather than in the real world? What Bruce Gerencser’s website shows is that so-called dedicated pastors are being caught up in pornography and sex crimes. Many of these are ardent prayers to Jesus and keep on imploring him to help them. Many of these are also ardent bible readers and have been (and are) asking the Holy Spirit to guide them, yet their lust doesn’t go away. They repress it only to find out it breaks out and they have failed again. Jesus didn’t help them, did he?

        • Rulah Trin

          I want you to know that no matter what has made you feel Superior or Righteous has fooled you. We are to think of others better than we are. Prideful spirit will prevent and block you from actually knowing that we too have been failures, we too have been weak and we too sin. Be mindful that you can’t help anyone understand with insulting and labels. Persecution and insults fall on Him..
          Please if you have nothing nice to say that will be beneficial to ones knowledge of God.
          Than be silent..for we do not have all the answers, but He does. Don’t be critical and cruel.. exasperating others makes them give up..
          Be kinder or say nothing

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            You have no history on this blog and do not know the individuals concerned and do not know what you are talking about.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Atheism:
            it’s an irrational faith that serves as the foundation for all superstition. Indeed, atheism is a whole system of beliefs—a system that has its own philosophy (materialism), morality (relativism), politics (social Darwinism), and culture (secularism). It even has its own sacraments (abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia). And this system of beliefs has been responsible for more death, carnage, persecution, and misery than any system of beliefs the world has ever known.

            Quote by Anthony DeStefano on “Thinking Like An Atheist” on biblegateway dot com

          • kyuss

            nice try. atheism is actually the exact opposite of a religion. and no one – not one person – has ever been killed in the name of atheism. can’t say that about your imaginary friend!

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Another assumption?

            It is our duty to destroy every religious world-concept. If the destruction of ten million human beings, as happened in the last war, should be necessary for the triumph of one definite class, then that must be done and it will be done. ”
            —Yemelyan Yaroslavsky.[1]

            Investigate The Militant Society of the Godless.

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Sorry, I lifted the block.

            You’re back on block for assuming.

            I hope you learn to think critically enough to research before blathering on further so nonsensically on the internet.

            Atheists sinless?

            Get real.

            William Lane Craig:

            “Most atheists lost their faith when they were 11 or 12 years old, and they’ve never studied it since. What that means is that most of these men reject Christianity based on the objections of a 12 year old!

            So when people say, “There’s not enough evidence”, what they mean is “There’s not enough evidence to coerce me out of my indifference. If I choose to ignore it, the evidence isn’t going to grab me by the lapels and force me to believe.” – end quote

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Craig again:

            Of course, the evidence isn’t coercive. But why should it be?
            1. Knowledge of God is unique in that it is conditioned by moral and spiritual factors. A spiritually indifferent person can have a profound knowledge of physics, or literature, or history, or sociology, or even of theology. But a spiritually indifferent person cannot know God. According to the Bible, the knowledge of God is promised to those who honestly seek him.

            Jeremiah: “And you shall seek me and you shall find me, if you seek for me with all your heart.”

            Jesus: “Seek and you will find, knock and the door shall be opened, ask and it will be given you. For he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it shall be opened, and to him who asks it shall be given.”

            2. God doesn’t force himself upon us. He has given evidence of Himself which is sufficiently clear for those with an open mind and an open heart, but sufficiently vague so as to not to compel those who hearts are closed. The great French mathematical genius Blaise Pascal, who came to know God through Jesus Christ at the age of 31, put it this way:

            Willing to appear openly to those who seek him with all their heart, and to be hidden from those who flee from him with all their heart, God so regulates the knowledge of himself that he has given indications of himself which are visible to those who seek him and not to those who do not seek him. There is enough light for those to see who only desire to see, and enough obscurity for those who have a contrary disposition.

            In other words, the evidence is there for those who have eyes to see.- end quote

          • Susan Jane Elohim

            Bye!

            Thanks for playing again using the world’s reasoning but God doesn’t have to bow to His creature’s thinking when they use it against Him, does He?

            He’s already provided the good Lord Jesus as the way, the truth and the life for everyone.

            Sorry you could not appreciate that fact or seek further enlightenment but were so willing to settle for being an unenlightened beast and for other people’s weak rationalizations.

            I guess you get what you settle for. Isn’t that how the world works?

            You reap what you sow. You were too busy to give God the time of day and now you are unenlightened.

            So don’t be angry. You got what you settled for.

            Matthew 7:6.

            Back on block.

          • Jean Camille

            Except in Stalinist Soviet Union, Maoist China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia…

          • kyuss

            wrong again!

          • Jean Camille

            Glad you admit it.

          • kyuss

            obviously, you know that I was talking about your statement but chose to type something moronic. Please continue, I enjoy watching religotards attempting to be funny.

          • Jean Camille

            It’s all a reflection of you

          • Jack Wellman

            True. These trolls simply can’t understand the Bible, but Jesus knows why (John 8:43), so pray God opens their heart before God’s judgment comes.

          • kyuss

            please Jack – demonstrate that “god” exists before spouting off on what it is likely to do.

          • Jean Camille

            Jack, can you please get something done about these moderator hold-ups? I have tried to communicate with Telling Ministries but have not received a response.
            We really need to get flagged posts processed faster (surely you can get trusted volunteers to help out); and please publish some guidelines to help avoid the hold-ups in the first place.

          • kyuss

            what is? your arrogant ignorance?

          • Jean Camille

            If that’s what you are seeing, … yes, a reflection.

          • kyuss

            demonstrate that your religion is true…

          • kyuss

            demonstrate that your religion is true…

          • Jean Camille

            On the original point, your statement that no-one has been killed in the name of atheism is sophistry. Their atheistic stance frees them from accountability to a higher authority and sets the stage for them to murder ‘in the name of’ their favoured agenda. It is that base that allows them to be the most murderous regimes in recent history.

          • Jean Camille

            On the original point, your statement that no-one has been killed in the name of atheism is sophistry. Their atheistic stance frees them from accountability to a higher authority and sets the stage for them to murder ‘in the name of’ their favoured agenda. It is that base that allows them to be the most murderous regimes in recent history.

          • kyuss

            so, you admit that it is true that no one has been killed in the name of atheism; not one single person. Unlike, say, christianity; we know perfectly well that people have been killed IN JESUS’ NAME, AMEN!

          • kyuss

            “In those regimes, their atheism was foundational to their blood lust.”

            Oh, this is true because you say so? Care to provide some evidence that your (incorrect) assertion is true? Forgive me if I don’t trust your extremely shallow political analysis.

          • Jean Camille

            “Why wouldn’t I believe someone that says they’re a christian when they say it?”

            If someone claimed to play chess but didn’t know the rules, we have cause to doubt them. If people claim to follow Jesus Christ but consistently behave contrary to his expressed wishes, then we are wise to question the accuracy of their claim.

            Lack of follow through is why.

          • There is nothing irrational about atheism. You are deluded! Most atheists in the Western World are not Social Darwinists but many are humanists. Nor are abortion, infanticide and euthanasia “sacraments” of atheism.

          • Thanks Rulah!

  • Susan Jane Elohim

    A warning to anyone reading this comments section. There are people pud, John Arthur and others that come here to deprogram you and try to control your decisions through sabotaging ideas in order to disrupt and take away your faith.

    pud constantly alleges that believers in Jesus are brainwashed yet brainwashing is a pseudo scientific idea.

    Just put the trolls on block people before they get started and think for yourselves. Don’t submit to anyone’s attempts to subvert your genuine conversionary experience. You would have thought these people would have figured out that true faith is indestructible and something to be sought not fought over by now but to their shame they haven’t. That’s extreme delusion behind that.

    Wikipedia on “brainwashing”:

    Brainwashing (also known as mind control, menticide, coercive persuasion, thought control, thought reform, and re-education) is the concept that the human mind can be altered or controlled by certain psychological techniques. Brainwashing is said to reduce its subject’s ability to think critically or independently,[1] to allow the introduction of new, unwanted thoughts and ideas into the subject’s mind,[2] as well as to change his or her attitudes, values, and beliefs.[3][4]

    The concept of brainwashing was originally developed in the 1950s to explain how the Chinese government appeared to make people cooperate with them. Advocates of the concept also looked at Nazi Germany, at some criminal cases in the United States, and at the actions of human traffickers. It was later applied by Margaret Singer, Philip Zimbardo, and some others in the anti-cult movement to explain conversions to some new religious movements and other groups. This resulted in scientific and legal debate[5] with Eileen Barker, James Richardson, and other scholars, as well as legal experts, rejecting at least the popular understanding of brainwashing.[6]

    The concept of brainwashing is sometimes involved in legal cases, especially regarding child custody; and is also a theme in science fiction and in criticism of modern political and corporate culture. Although the term appears in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) of the American Psychiatric Association[7] brainwashing is not accepted as scientific fact[8] and has been characterized as pseudo-scientific.[9]-end quote

    Article on the pseudo scientific idea of brainwashing here:

    The idea of brainwashing is ‘pseudoscientific’ and ‘dehumanises people’
    Sister of women who helped plan 1978 Jonestown massacre says she is disheartened by how casually the word is used

    Rebecca Moore
    Thursday 19 July 2018 11:58

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brainwashing-myth-truth-jonestown-massacre-rebecca-moore-us-a8454136.html

    Don’t be the victim of anti religion advocates use of perjorative terms trying to pressure you out of a blessed relationship with God.

    Unfortunately anti theists like to lurk in atheist ranks and call themselves “atheists” too when they are not actually. That way they can attempt to deceive you into thinking they are mere unbelievers and conversion eligible when in fact they are firmly enough convicted in their unbelief to actually try to deconvert believers without any genuine conversionary experiences themselves.

    Cleave to Jesus and every one of your personal experiences, believers in Christ.

    Who are some inexperienced internet bullies to take your holy experiences and misclassify them in cheap attempts to dirty and destroy your relationship with God when they failed to repent and achieve that relationship themselves.

    Don’t be fooled. There is no philosophical burden on a believer to prove anything to an unbeliever.

    We don’t major in philosophy. That is a worldly activity. We majored on the Bible and take our stand on God’s Word in Jesus Christ himself.

    So don’t get caught in all the devil’s philosophical traps.

    Christ came to set people free and that includes freedom from name games and philosophical traps that other people in their unbelief may have fallen a victim to.

    Don’t argue with them. Bless them, walk on and pray for them.

    If they are smart they will lay down their rebellion one day for the loving arms of Jesus.

    Of course, we try to point out their logical errors but some people refuse to learn.

    So don’t waste your priceless time people arguing with them. Locate the people with the genuinely teachable rational spirits.

    Perhaps these rebellious ones will wake up from all the social isolation and take God seriously one day. You would think they would take the hint from all the social ostracism that their dedication to forcing evil ideas on others is unwelcome but they don’t. That’s demonic or evidence of some sort of hidden serious anxiety usually to the point of a personality disorder.

    We can’t publicly and specifically analyze each one on a message board. That is much too public an invasion of anti theist’s privacy but we can pray for them and turn them over to God and let Him deal with them.

    Blessings on everyone reading.

    Really arguing with people in rebellion to God isn’t that interesting. There are more pleasant things to do than deal with other people’s psychiatric issues.

    So pray to God that Arthur and pud and brien and other anti theists like Bob Seidensticker visiting this blog and out in the world accept Jesus so he will resolve their “issues”. Issues are complicated. Even real psychiatrists goof this stuff up and sometimes misdiagnose people so ask God to personally intervene for them.

    Really who hunts Christians down on Christian blogs to mock and insult them.

    People used to know persecution only makes the real Christians stronger so pray don’t argue.

    We get blessed for praying. It actually is beneficial healthwise for our brains where a lot of our sanity resides.

    Turn the worries over to God. Worry is distrust like Pastor Wellman said and living in constant fear is no good for anyone.

    Thanks for reading and forgive me for talking too much. God please forgive me too and keep no record of wrong on me for speaking these truths because in my opinion the truth is love and we don’t have to compromise it to flatter sensitive egos that need correcting.

    The sanest people are that sane because they sided with God.

    May His Grace Abound To Everyone Reading!

    • Jack Wellman

      Yes, poor Pud and Mr. Arthur are blinded by the god of this world (2 Cor 4:4), and to try to reason with them is pointless and a waste of time (Matt 7:6). Only God can change them (Prov 21:1; Eph 2:1-6), so all we can do for these poor, lost souls is to pray for them.

      • Susan Jane Elohim

        Yes, praying is the only thing because some like pud are so far gone they are practicing psychiatry without a license on Internet blogs.

        If she were licensed she’d know brainwashing is pseudo science and not go around falsely charging people with it and illegally attempting to deprogram them. Deprogramming is a crime and some people have gone to jail for it.

        People have a right to determine for themselves what they believe and some people don’t care how distrustful people rationalized themselves into the untenable position of unbelief.

        She had better hope a policeman doesn’t stop by this blog and get wind of what she has been up to because sin has consequences.

        I think you prayed a hedge of protection around her pastor.

        Have a great day!

    • Are you crazy? I’m not trying to deprogram anyone, nor am I trying to control anyone’s decisions. You take any questions that you cannot answer as someone trying to deprogram you or control you. You don’t answer the questions asked, but waffle on about something else in your responses. Often your responses are rants.

    • “The sanest people are that sane because they sided with God.”

      Well go to any insane asylum and you will find some of the patients sided with God Some are Jesus devotees. So why did God fail to keep them sane?

    • We don’t have any psychiatric “issues”, unlike you. We engage in rational thinking but you just rant and rave about your bullybull.

    • So you think that Christians don’t need to provide evidence for their claims. If this is true, then you can believe anything in your bullybull whether there is evidence for it or not. If someone makes claims about invisible entities, then using your so-called logic you can believe any assertions about them. All you have to do as ask them to disprove the invisible entities that you believe in.

      Let’s say that someone believes in the existence any of the following: fairies, leprechauns, goblins, unicorns, ghosts or other invisible beings. So they could argue like you. We don’t need to provide evidence for our claims or prove that they exist. We KNOW that they exist. We have had a person experience fairies, so our subjective experience is proof to us. What would you say? Would you believe them. If not, why? If so, why? Can’t you see how ridiculous your assertions are?

      And it’s no use saying that we have to prove that God doesn’t exist. No-one can do that. But none can prove that fairies or any other invisible beings don’t exist. Yet, do you conclude that because no-one can disprove the existence of fairies, that fairies exist? Well neither should you conclude that because God’s existence cannot be disproved that, therefore, he exists.

    • Rulah Trin

      What you have done and said was exactly what you are slandering them for. And you went on with insulting and criticising as well as making judgmental remarks about their sanity. You must lead by example.
      You allowed them to get into your head which caused you to respond in a way that lacks what Jesus is all about. Love one another. Encourage with compassion, gentleness and kindness. Be gentle when for them when correcting.Pray w/out tearing down their beliefs, but acknowledge the fact that they don’t have to believe in what you think is right. You have been called by your own beliefs knowing what the right thing to do is Prayer for them, and know in faith that in all things..all things are possible through Him who strengthens you.

      Arguing about analogies and sound doctrines are useless. There is only one who we know can heal and restore.

      Just know not everyone believes the same and that’s okay.
      We all fall short..keep praying.

      • Susan Jane Elohim

        Understanding the Mind of Modern Atheists

        Quote:
        DeStefano: Christians are called to be Christ-like. That is the primary duty of anyone who identifies as a Christian. The question is what did Christ do and say when he was confronted with hypocrisy and injustice? And the answer is he was extremely direct and forthright. In fact, it’s good for all Christians to reflect on why the founder of Christianity was tortured and killed. It wasn’t because he was so “nice.” He was killed because he said some very upsetting and harsh things to the people who were in authority at the time. In fact, he was extremely confrontational!

        Another quote:

        DeStefano: Some Christians have this naïve idea that Jesus Christ was sort of like Mr. Rogers. Well, I like Mr. Rogers as much as anyone, but as nice and good a person as he was, he didn’t save the world! He didn’t overcome the forces of evil. In order to fight against great evil, you sometimes have to use very strong words and be very honest. You have to use tough love, just the way Christ did.

        https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/modern-atheist-mind-interview-anthony-destefano/

      • Yes! Rulah. I wish more Christians were like you, but this Susan Jane thinks that only she, and those who agree with her, are right. She has been continually asked for evidence for her assertions, but she does not provide any evidence that is objective.

      • Susan Jane Elohim

        Don’t walk on eggshells.

        A Christian counselor on walking on eggshells:
        https://drtownsend.com/dont-walk-eggshells-stop-fragilizing-start-leading/

        Christianity is the Good News. It is God’s solution to sin.

        Do you get out of sin by skirting the issue of it or do you tell the truth so people can understand and accept God’s diagnosis?

        People that reject God’s spiritual diagnosis that they are sinners don’t accept Jesus so they don’t get born again.

        Start mastering the Gospel so you can deliver it yourself. You may not like the way I defend it or do it but at least I do it.

        So if you don’t like the unvarnished truth try learning and delivering better than me.

        Though if God did not want the whole truth but only the pretty truths told then why tell everything in the Bible. Maybe all those verses help make people aware that sin exists and that they need a whole new nature.

        You didn’t save anything but your own ego by tearing mine down but WE ARE ALL suppose to be dying to self daily.

        Prove you are dying to yours by delivering the Gospel then you might know exactly what I am talking about.

        How are you going to overcome sin if you refuse to identify it in yourself?

        Read up on surrendering to God. If you’re going to go around critiquing other Christians on internet boards be sure Satan doesn’t keep a foothold in YOUR thoughtlife.

        Truth exposes lies and footholds. I happen to like the truth whether or not I score any brownie points and other people like me back or not.

        That’s God pleasing over man pleasing in my opinion. Another biblical topic I suggest you learn about before appointing yourself as evangelical social critic.

        Have a great day!

        God Bless!

        • kyuss

          pure stupidity.

      • Jack Wellman

        Spot on comment. Trolls seem to want it both ways. Nice catch!

    • What a lie! I don’t come to deprogram anyone. But you assert that I do. I do ask for evidence for religious statements, but people like you don’t provide any. You confuse so-called religious experiences with evidence. People in other religions have similar experiences to you, but you don’t accept their so-called evidence. Why should anybody accept so-called religious experiences about Jesus as being objectively true, if you reject experiences in other religions?