Dear Media, Donald Trump Does Not Care About Your Bible Gotcha Questions

Dear Media, Donald Trump Does Not Care About Your Bible Gotcha Questions August 27, 2015

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Quick — what’s your favorite Bible verse? If you’re like most people John 3:16 came to mind.  But if that’s your answer and you’re a Presidential candidate, you’d be skewered for being “obvious.” What IS the right answer if you’re a candidate?  Well, a reporter repeatedly asked Donald Trump that question on air, and it didn’t go well for the reporter. David French, over at National Review, writes:

He declined to identify a favorite verse, calling it “very personal.” When asked if he’s an “Old Testament guy or a New Testament guy” (a biblically illiterate question if there ever was one, by the way), Trump simply says they’re “equal.” The clip is almost a perfect representation of a Donald Trump Rorschach test. If you hate Trump, you laugh and say, “The man doesn’t know a single verse.” If you love him, you laugh and say, “Look at how he brushed off that inane gotcha question.”

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  • Badgersss

    It reminds me of someone else’s responses to supposed gotcha questions that were anything but

    What’s surprising is a pair of political evangelicals don’t care about Trump’s response.

  • Ross Gage

    Why would liberals care about the Bible? They hate the bible. Nice try fools but all you did was make yourself look stupid. Apparently the author thought she had a story. Unfortunately she is a nitwit like most liberals.

  • Tom D.

    trump killed this question. im a Christian and think he is but really doesn’t effect my vote. trump objected on principle and when the reporter tried to trip him up and say “old or new testament” trump said equal which is correct in my book. its a complete story no “half” is more or less important or better than the other.

  • danrsmith

    We finally got somebody who knows how to fight back and put media people in their place.

  • Randy Hyle

    I’m a Liberal. I love the Bible. I am also a devout Roman Catholic. If somebody asked me to name a verse my first response would have been John 3:16. Not that hard, not that personal. But one of my favorites is Matthew 9:24
    “And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye
    of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” I bet tRUMP skipped over that one.

    And if you are a Christian, the Old and New Testaments are not equal. The New Testament is a new covenant between God and His people brought to life through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. This supercedes anything in the Old Testament!

  • 67falcon

    Randy we are electing a POTUS…NOT A MINISTER…get over your arrogant self.

  • Amlan Ansuman

    He has never read it.

  • Dana Watts

    Very odd answer. Trump strikes me as someone who struggles with basic answers to questions because he isn’t devoted to what he says he believes.

  • CAmom760

    Why does the question matter? If, as most media insists, we are to assiduously protect the separation between church and state, his reading of the bible or favorite verse have absolutely no bearing on anything! The left wants to remove every cross from public view, and THIS is the question they ask? Oh yeah, no ulterior motive AT ALL.

  • Good point!

  • Badgersss

    Exactly! It shouldn’t matter. We do have separation of Church and State. Funny thing though, the Frenches and others are always fighting this and thinking it matters what a candidates religion is ( or isn’t). And yet…..

  • Becky Cart

    He is not a Christian…A true Christian …LOVES to talk about the Lord without hesitation…& they know so many verses they could spout them off AND tell You where they are in hopes you would look for yourself. I saw what I’ve been looking for ever since I started typing “Go TRUMP”” I can now focus on someone who WILL defund the slaughter if the INNOCENTS…GOD is extremely angry at this nation for that & if trump knew Anything ABOUT the Old Testament ,He would KNOW that EVERY …EVERY nation Came under EXTREME JUDGEMENT for sacrificing their Babies to idols…I will someday have to stand before A Holy God & answer for my actions …I can’t vote for a non-believer or one who lies about the word of God… to pander for the Evangelical vote.We have been governed by a non- Christian who said he was one…HE LIED…now look at our Nation.

  • Jaymz13

    As far as I know, he’s never claimed to be devoutly religious. You know who does claim to be devoutly religious? Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barack Obama, etc., etc., etc.

  • Derrick Howard

    A wize man knows that religion and politics often make for less than agreeable conversation.

  • texanfree

    Oh, that’s such a great response to that! Please save us from those fakes.

  • texanfree

    I know, it’s so sad he can’t be true to what he says, say, like Boehner, McConnell, Pelosi, Reid, Biden. LOL See Jaymz13’s comment above. Perfect!

  • texanfree

    I’m curious. How do you feel about the Democrat Party refusing to allow God as part of their platform. I know the guy taking the vote finally forced it on them, but they refused to vote for it, three times.

  • texanfree

    I know many people who talk about the Lord without hesitation and spout Bible verses easily. That doesn’t make them a Christian.

  • Beep Beep

    David French just made a fool of himself. Hey David! If you hate Don just come out and say it. How many notches does Don have to put in his belt before you and Mrs. Kelly learn. By the way, who is Obama’s favorite preacher? That would be the America hating, freedom bashing, champion of racists, Jeremiah Wright which makes David’s question even more ridiculous. TRUMP 2016!!

  • Cow Cookie

    Oxymoron: A devout Roman Catholic “liberal”

    Yeah, and I’m a snowflake.

  • Chris Kennison

    Ask Hillary that question you douche’s.

  • JoeMyGod

    If you hate Trump, you laugh and say, “The man doesn’t know a single verse.”

    Well, he VERY obviously doesn’t.

  • Gary McCain

    You know, he’s right, it’s no one’s business, but God’s, what he thinks, or likes about the Bible! As long as he confesses to like it’s word, that’s all needs to be said! You know, the more the Mainsream Media , and fellow candidates, put him down, the more I see him as an honest and sincere candidate! Our Motto should be, ” The more they Attack him, the more we will Back him!”

  • Mike Rieker

    Why do they even sit down with these douche bags?

  • Phil

    “it’s no one’s business, but God’s, what he thinks, or likes about the Bible!”

    That’s exactly right, and must be why conservative Christians haven’t legislated based on their Biblically derived opinions on abortion and homose- oh no wait a minute

  • Mark-Theresa Coleman

    I am a Christian and I feel the Old & New are equal, It’s because of the New that the Old was written bringing us to Christ. Plus the Old is still not comlpletely fulfilled yet

  • JDW

    I was leaning toward Trump for my vote, but I am not sure he has ever answered a question with what he will actually do. Whether he can quote the Bible or not doesn’t mean he will be a good or bad leader, as long as he believes in it and respects that other Americans do too. One thing that bugs me about him is that I have seen video of some of his rallies where someone in the audience “conveniently” had a copy of his book, which he signed on the spot for them (trying to look nice or something). Not sure I trust him, he seems like he’s trying to bully his opponents rather than promote his beliefs / platform. Can you imagine him talking to Iran or another country who already hates us? That scares me. I like Carson and Kasich’s platform, just not sure they are as well known. Good thing we have a bit longer before we have to vote.

  • Jon Wilder

    Where was the media when Hussein claimed he visited all 57 states one sided liberal media and our leader a POS muslim

  • GirlfriendMD

    Hillary doesn’t brag about being guided by God to do things like run for president.

  • frgough

    First, Trump has been just as specific as any other candidate. Cruz: I’ll defund Planned Parenthood.” Trump: “I’ll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.” Neither candidate offered any details on how they would do it. But for some reason, Trump gets hammered for not being specific enough.

    Second, why would you be scared by an American president laying down the smack on Iran? You think they’ll hate us less if we bow to them and give them what they want? We’ve already tried that. Didn’t work. I can guarantee you that if we laid down the smack, however, they would heel.

  • frgough

    Last time I checked, it was the anti-science crowd making all the laws about abortion and homosexuality. Hint: that would be liberals who deny the science of human reproduction and human anatomy.

  • frgough

    Really? These are all quotes from Hillary Clinton.

    “We have to summon up what we believe is morally and ethically and spiritually correct and do the best we can with God’s guidance.”

    “The Church was a critical part of my growing up, and in preparing for this event, I almost couldn’t even list all the ways it influenced me, and helped me develop as a person, not only on my own faith journey, but with a sense of obligations to others”

    “Marriage has historic, religious, and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman”

    Clinton joked at the Faith Forum that sometimes her plea is, “Oh, Lord, why can’t you help me lose weight?” But her daily habit, she said, is praying, “for discernment, for wisdom, for strength, for courage … ”

  • ArmsMerchant

    Well, my impression is that Trump just comes off as brushing off the question. “It’s personal.” I agree with the other commenters that if the Bible really were his favorite book he’d be eager to share some gems, of which there are many.

    Sure, public figures should turn back these stupid gotcha questions at every chance. “I’ll tell you, but what’s your favorite Bible verse? Have you asked Hillary what her favorite verse is?”

    That said, this guy is a phony self-promoter. Sorry, America. This is not the droid you’re looking for.

  • islander2010

    Huh? Are you talking about Saddam? He never visited the U.S.

  • Taylor Majerus

    Barack Hussein claimed that…

  • John Gray

    New Testament or Old Testament being an illiterate question? Well, if he wears clothes made of two different fabrics he’s New Testament, if he eats pork he’s New Testament. He cuts the side of his hair so he’s New Testament(Old Testament says that’s a no-no).
    Maybe Ms. French should read her Old Testament sometime, if she did she know she’s not supposed to show her hair to anyone except her husband or male relatives. Of course since she’s probably more of a New Testament type woman she doesn’t follow that.

  • John Gray

    Has nothing to with if a nominal Christian can point out his favorite Bible verse. Especially if you’re going to try to court the religious bigots in the Republican Party.

  • Kaptain Cirk

    But…but…but…I
    thought liberals wanted to keep religion out of politics. Are you
    telling me that they’re being hypocritical and deceitful? NAH!!!

  • John Gray

    Well I’m pretty sure if asked the same question she could give her favorite Bible verse.She also knows,unlike Jeb Bush, that her religious beliefs aren’t the basis for law in the US and that equal treatment for all is part of the Constitution.

  • LeeLee Turner

    I have a favorite book and I can’t quote out of it. Dumb question. And if he did answer it, the idiot liberals would use it in ads to say he was going to bring religion back into politics.

  • John Gray

    What scientific evidence can you come up with that says that human life begins at conception? I happen to believe that human life begins when you are born, not “pre-born”. Science , however doesn’t have an exact answer for that question.
    Now as far as homosexuality goes, it’s been found to exist in many animals; science therefore says that it can’t be “unnatural”.
    Really before you try to say that liberals are anti-science, you should brush up on your basic science, otherwise you just come across as stupid (aka the GOP’s base).

  • Earl

    There are 56 states, moron. 56 PRIMARY states. He was being interviewed dead tired during the hard-fought primaries. He was off by one.

  • Earl

    Trump is obviously pandering. If you don’t want to be quizzed about the Bible, don’t say it’s your favorite book.

  • Helen Damnation

    The Donald: “I love the bible. I LOVE the bible! I love, love, love the Bible! Now will you idiot evangelicals vote for me?”

  • LeeLee Turner

    This is such BS. I’m a true Christian and it is personal to me as well. Not to mention that I can’t quote from my favorite book

  • Patrick James Bayham

    the bible is a collection of books.

    just like this :http://www.usborne.com/images/covers/eng/max_covers/fairy-tale-treasury.jpg

  • Patrick James Bayham

    well jesus did throw the illegal immigrants out of the temple..
    and then had a feast for 12 at denny’s….didn’t he?

  • John Gray

    Let’s see, Jerry Falwell blamed the September 11th attacks ( and it’s the September 11th attacks, not “9/11”; Christmas isn’t 12/25 and the Fourth of July isn’t 7/4 ) on the “abortionists, the gays” etc. Jerry was also a white supremacist and said of Martin Luther King, Jr that preachers shouldn’t get involved in politics.
    Perhaps you’d like to remove that log from your own eye before talking about the speck in other people’s? Then again it’s probably too much to ask that you follow the words of the founder of your religion (obviously it is because you criticized the President and Paul in Romans, says that leaders were appointed by God and you are to do what they say or you’re criticizing God. In Paul’s day you didn’t even get to vote for who the Emperor was). Claiming to be a Christain and doing the something that is forbidden by Christianity is hypocrisy and the founder of Christianity had a rather dim view of hypocrites; it was one of his major complaints about the Pharisees.

  • Patrick James Bayham

    question”how religious are you?” = “how out of touch with reality are you?”

  • Patrick James Bayham

    you can’t argue with the pre-stupids….its a god design…

  • John Gray

    Except the GOP has wrapped itself in the mantle of “Christian” righteousness and claims that the “Godless” liberals are somehow violating their rights etc. by claiming the Bible is not the basis for law in the US.

  • John Gray

    Hey! You! Cover your head! Oh, damn! I forgot that’s Old Testament and you’re a thoroughly modern New Testament woman. Okay enjoy the ham sandwich and the cotton /wool blend suit then.

  • John Gray

    There are always different standards applied when the supposed “Christians”/ Republicans are involved. “Judge not lest ye be judged” becomes “you’re going to hell!” and asking simple things like “What foreign policy experience do you have?” becomes an unfair “gotcha” question.

  • Beep Beep

    John, you are a champion of missing the point.

  • Michael R Ecu

    Gotcha journalism by a couple of jokers pretending to be gatekeepers to the White House.

  • david pfiefer

    Peter 2:3
    “And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. ”

    Anyone who falls for this Trump sham deserves all that will come your way.

  • John Fix

    He meant to say 47, one to go to visit all 48 in the lower 48. He made a mistake in his speech, humans have been know to do that. The media covered it, asked him about it at the next campaign stop. Watch the video, it’s obvious he’s tired and said “fifty” instead of “forty” (note the long pause between “fifty” and “seven”).

  • david pfiefer

    Or, trying to expose his bullsh*t.

  • liberalwithcommonsence

    None of your business, next question. Go trump!

  • liberalwithcommonsence

    Those who want one of the other paid for puppets is a moron! Go Trump!

  • Esther Clark

    Hey, Donald’s the one that was shouting all day from the podium how much he loves the Bible. He brought it up, not the media. If someone repeatedly mentioned any other book it would be reasonable to ask what’s your favorite part of it. If its so personal why was he shouting about it from the podium all day?

  • Esther Clark

    actually, Ms Clinton has been known to actually quote bible verses before.

  • Krystal Allen

    Trump considers himself God because God turned water into wine and Trump turned alcohol into water at his casinos.

  • Krystal Allen

    wize?

  • Krystal Allen

    ”As far as I know” = I know less than 2% of what is really going on out there, so chances are I’ve never heard/seen this

  • Jessie Henson Long

    It is my favorite book. I have many verses I love both in the Old Testament and New. I didn’t hear them ask any other candidate this question. Talk about biased.

  • Krystal Allen

    He outsourced the job.

  • Krystal Allen

    So you kill your neighbor when they work on Sunday? And you never touch shellfish, riiiiiight?

  • Jessie Henson Long

    EXACTLY!!! They just cannot get the best of Trump and it kills them. Just making themselves look more ignorant than they already are.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    We are not living under Jewish law.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    He is too smart to fall for their childish tactics.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    He does very well when dealing with other countries. I would be more worried about Carson. He has spoken for Al Sharpton and says he shares some of the same beliefs. Carson also supports abortion up to 20 weeks along.

  • John Gray

    So that would make you a New Testament guy, right? Seems it’s not so illiterate question after all.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    I think it is already our motto.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    I would not have answered their question and I am a born-again believer who has many favorite verses.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    Yes as a matter of fact she does…….In its Sunday Book Review, the newspaper asked Clinton a series of literature-based questions. One of the inquiries sought to determine the one book that made her who she is today.

    “‘At the risk of appearing predictable,’ she responded, ‘the Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking.’

    Read more at http://eaglerising.com/17541/hillary-clinton-claims-the-bible-is-her-biggest-influence/#4dYjrtkrWx23oQsb.99

  • Jessie Henson Long

    Then why ask Trump the question? They were up to no good is why.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    Founder of Christianity????? Founder of my religion??? You make no sense.

    King James Bible
    Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

  • joethepleb

    lol

  • joethepleb

    so does the US Constitution

  • If Trump would have said a verse they will make it so out of context! that the safe thing to do it’s what Trump did! because ven saying old testament or new, then the press will say, ho he supports jewish people or christian people! Media is so corrupt! leave Trump in peace! and ask questions that matter instead of trying to create polemic around his name! shame on you.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    Religions are man-made and full of error. Christianity is based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as presented in the New Testament.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    I believe in the OT and the NT and Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour.

  • Susan Creger

    Its Personal!!! Do we need to discuss our religion as well? Politic talk is heated anyway!

  • Jessie Henson Long

    You have no clue what you are talking about. There are just as many Democrats who are Christians and have morals. Are you saying that since you are obviously a Democrat that you possess no sense of right and wrong and only the GOP’s do?

  • Jessie Henson Long

    1 Timothy 4:3-5King James Version (KJV)

    3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

    4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

    5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

  • John Gray

    How about “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God”? hard to take that one out of context.

  • Beth Thibodeaux

    Here’s another reason to be disenchanted with Trump: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161. He hired actors to cheer for him at his presidential announcement. You can read the text of the email at the bottom of the article.

  • John Gray

    No, not at all, but the GOP is the Party that likes to identify itself with God (as well as Mom, apple pie and patriotism). If your going to court the vote of a significant portion of a particular political Party’s base then you should be able to answer questions about something they deem exceptionally important.

  • John Gray

    Yep, it’s a “gotcha” question to ask some schmuck running for President, who’s Party loudly proclaims its relationship with an omnipotent deity to ask which portion of the supposed revealed truth of that deity he most identifies with or what is his favorite saying attributed to that deity.

  • Sven2547

    2008: “Obama’s father was a Muslim! His pastor said a crazy thing once! OMG!!!”
    2015: “Donald Trump’s religious beliefs don’t matter, get off his back.”

  • ta2t2o

    Exactly – but then you need to keep it personal and quit trying to force it on everyone else with fighting against gay marriage, abortion, trying to put prayer in schools or hang pictures of Jesus everywhere or crosses everywhere, or denying marriage licenses to couples who are legally able to get married, or denying services to people because you disagree with their religious beliefs. If it’s personal – then keep if personal and quit trying to cram it down everyone’s throat.

  • ta2t2o

    Hard to take it out of context when you already know the context is the Bible. Unless like every other pseudo Christian, you consistently take verses of the Bible out of context to suit your own social agenda.

  • ta2t2o

    Then quit trying to use it to make legislation. Your religion is none of my business. Keep it that way and quit trying to force it on the rest of us.

  • ta2t2o

    “liberalwithcommonsence” – possibly – but it’s spelled “sense”.

  • ta2t2o

    Because the other candidates aren’t making a point – and a specific point – about saying it’s their favorite book. AND – if he had provided your first sentence as a response – that would have been better than the drivel he provided.

    Also – the fact that you’re trying to provide cover for him – when you KNOW that he’s bullshitting everyone is equally pathetic and doesn’t say a lot about your religious convictions either.

  • Starland sound

    Oh ya, like anyone actually vetted obama.

  • Scott Falkner

    Funny how it’s public enough to mention it in his campaign and gather support from the religious right, but too personal to give any details whatsoever.

  • ta2t2o

    But we’re going to say that about any Republican ANYWAY – because you specifically make it a part of the Republican Platform. One of the key items in the 2012 Platform was:

    Preserving and Protecting Traditional Marriage

    Try this quote from the platform:

    “We renew our call for replacing “family planning” programs for teens with abstinence education which teaches abstinence until marriage as the responsible and respected standard of behavior.”

    Pretty sure that’s bringing religion into politics. So we’re not just worried about Trump doing this as we’re pretty sure any GOP will try to do this.

  • ta2t2o

    We do – but Mark Halperin isn’t a liberal.

  • ta2t2o

    I see what you did there.

  • Sven2547

    His past was been more thoroughly investigated and scrutinized than any other American Presidential candidate in history. Multiple birth certificate forms! Newspaper birth announcements! Elementary school transcripts! Sermons made by his preacher once-upon-a-time! No other candidate for President has ever been put under the microscope like that. This talking-point that ‘nobody vetted Obama’ is an absolute joke.

  • ta2t2o

    And if he said the Northern States are better than the Southern States, I’d want to know which Northern States and why – so thanks for validating that question.

  • ta2t2o

    They probably are trying to interview all the candidates – so as reporters it’s part of their job…Oh, you didn’t mean Trump?

  • Bev Wafford Morris

    My favorite, Jeremiah 29:11, is hard to take out of context, too. “For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord. Plans to prosper you and not to harm you.”

  • ta2t2o

    That would have been a better answer than the one he gave. It would also have been more honest than the one he gave – sadly you know that but I’m not quite sure why you’re trying to convince yourself otherwise.

  • Bev Wafford Morris

    Maybe he meant ‘scents’?

  • tmfark

    He doesn’t have the details for any of his fixes.

  • ta2t2o

    Is that bragging about it? Answering a question you were asked? They asked what one book made her who she is today. She answered the question. She didn’t run around to five different speeches saying “It Takes a Village is my 2nd favorite book. Do you want to know what my favorite book is? It’s the Bible.”

    See the difference there – one is bragging – one is answering a question. And for a guy who has regularly treated people like shit on public television, you’ll understand why most of us (who are being honest with ourselves), doubt his sincerity when he says it. You have to wonder why he always seems to be plugging his book every time he mentions the bible. Shameless self-promotion – THAT is the Donald Trump we all know and THAT makes sense.

  • Bev Wafford Morris

    Not true. Cruz actually DID vote to defund Planned Parenthood in the vote on the bill introduced by Mike Lee http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/03/did-your-senators-vote-to-defund-planned-parenthood-see-here/

  • ta2t2o

    No he’s not saying that – Ann Coulter is saying that.You remember her – she’s the woman he referred to in the audience and said “Buy her book”. She’s also the woman who introduced him in Iowa. So no – John isn’t saying that Liberals are “Godless” – he’s just repeating what some of Trump’s closest friends are saying. I’m sure that you’ll recall that any relationship to the candidate automatically makes that candidate adopt all the attributes of the other person, much like the Right tried to do with Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers for Obama (even though neither actually appeared on the campaign stops with him).

    Hypocrite much?

  • Well, the old and new Testament are both important. Why can’t they be equal in terms of value? One, the history and prophesy of God’s people, the second the good news of Jesus Christ. Even Christ quoted old Testament scripture, so our Savior thought it as important as the gospel he preached (in the New Testament).

  • Terry Stromky

    We have a muslim president who is allowing Millions of illegals and muslims from terrorists countries that hate us. Now they have the nerve to ask Trump about the bible? What a joke these people are.

  • Ole Man

    I call bull! Never any proof that he’s a Muslim.
    And I want to know if they do indeed know their Bible.

  • Ole Man

    I’ll bet the dummy has an answer by tomorrow.

  • We are trying to hire a President, not a Sunday school teacher. We already had the latter, and Jimmy Carter was an abject disaster.

  • christyjo0354

    If you cannot tell by Obama’s actions that he is a muslim, his total and complete support of terrorists, and has stated that his favorite sound is the morning call to muslim prayer, then I say you’re simply a moron!

  • imageWIS

    “has stated that his favorite sound is the morning call to muslim prayer”

    Demonstrably prove it or STFU.

  • Sher Ed Mack

    He said he was… something like, “…my muslim faith”

  • Sher Ed Mack

    that’s pathetically funny.

  • Patricia Stidham-Burns

    You people on this comment thread are scary! You’re freakin INSANE! To know people that think and believe the things that you do is just frightening. To know you’re loose in the general population voting, driving, raising CHILDREN! Plus there is more out there just like you!
    Of course there is an exception or two and I’m sure they know who they are. But for the rest of you who think Obama is a Muslim! Huh? Wha?? Why? WTF!? YOU’RE INSANE!

  • Ole Man

    I can tell by your statements and name-calling that you’re lo-info, give free space to Fox news to live inside your mind, and that you cannot specifically state one action which demonstrates that he is a Muslim.

  • EuroDude707

    No, OBAMA was a Muslim, registered at the school in Indonesia.

    This is a complete straw man fallacy //Donald Trump’s religious beliefs don’t matter, get off his back//

    Many people don’t care about the debate “how Christian is he really”.

    I guess you are Swedish, due to your name Sven, and sorry to say it, but your ignorant comment is only a reflection of the insane policy in Sweden. Do you have any idea when Swedes will be a minority in Sweden, with a Muslim majority. Do you even dare to talk about?

  • EuroDude707

    Not even close. Who paid for his Harvard education? Why are all his school records sealed? How could a self-professed lazy, weed smoking Marxist bum enter Harvard?

    How come the press never have asked the sitting president, for two periods, why he determined that Islam is a false religion, and Christianity is the true religion, as he supposedly converted from Islam to Christianity.

    Compare that to demanding fabourite Bible verses from a Republican presidential candidate. They are digging more into the spiritual background of a candidate than their two-terms sitting president. How strange is that?

    And most Ex-Muslim Christian converts change their Muslim names, why did Barack (Arabic/Muslim blessed) and Hussein (Arabic for good. Not used in pre-Islamic era. False prophet Muhammad first one to name a person in recorded history, when he named his grandson Husayn ibn Ali, claiming he had been commanded to do so by the fallen angel masquerading as archangel Gabriel.

    I wish we in Europe had someone like Trump. Unafraid of dealing with problems normally not discussed in polite conversations, but necessarily to do so and dangerously to be left ignored.

  • chickadee

    Exactly. Why is something he keeps bringing up off limits?

  • Doc9

    Where is that verse found Andrea?

  • exit 7

    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong. Moron? Honey yu would know.

  • Doc9

    You make it sound like a bad thing… What’s wrong with abstinence? What’s wrong with providing an education that includes it as well as the democratic agenda which stresses homosexuality and having two mommies or two daddies as being normal?
    I think Dems are afraid of the truth so they will do whatever it takes to hinder or bury it. That of course includes but is not limited to calling anyone who disagrees with them any number of vulgar names and making any number of accusations whether there is any substance to them or not.
    Trump isn’t perfect, but he is at least a good business man and negotiator (sp?) as opposed to Hilery, who has a very questionable track record of outright lying and misdirection. He is not running against Obama so no sense comparing them other than to say Obama is the worst Pres we have ever had. That’s all.

  • Sharon Day

    Was that question ever ask to Obama? How about any other candidate including the democrats? It was highly unethical in my opinion many people that grew up in Church become busy in this world we live in as an adult and do not go every Sunday and we forget verses word for word that does not mean we don’t believe in the Bible or love Jesus Christ he is a truthful man and I am sure that if he did not attend the Churches he said he did that those Pastors would speak out…

  • 1MiddleRoader

    Yes, in 2007, by Tim Russert in the Democratic debate. All the then-candidates were asked. Obama’s was the Sermon on the Mount. Hillary’s was “Do unto others…”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/us/politics/26DEBATE-TRANSCRIPT.html?pagewanted=all&_r=

  • sherrybb

    The Democratic party is not the one constantly spouting the Bible and wanting the Bible to be the basis for our laws. That’s why the questions are relevant but yes, Obama was asked many times about his faith.

  • sherrybb

    no, we do not have a Muslim President. Could you guys make up your minds…is it Muslims who are all coming in or Mexicans…as Trumpster says?

  • sherrybb

    If you can’t tell that he is not a Muslim, that he does not support terrorists ( he is bombing them you know? ) and i kind of think the sound of Muslim prayer is beautiful too….why, you might be a RWNut.

  • sherrybb

    You’d fit right in with the right wing nuts here.

  • EuroDude707

    You DO realize that your comment is totally void of any facts and logic, and contains nothing but hate and stupidity, right?

    Sadly, your trash talk is the modus operandi by liberals, so I guess you are one of them.

  • a.g.

    he doesn’t answer the stupid religious question because the majority of americans are democrats…if he wants to actually win, he needs to separate himself from the religious nutcases to get some democrats to vote for him…the only way any republican will win the presidency again is if they change their views on social issues, i guarantee you trump doesn’t care about gay marriage, or abortion…hell if someone actually looked they could probably find him on howard stern talking about how he’s fine with it all…he’ll drop out soon enough, and republicans will be left with either another bush, or that vampire looking ted cruz…neither will win…they’ll cry some more about shit that was decided upon years ago…

  • dsimm

    You really do drink the Kool-Aid, don’t you?

  • J C Ridley

    Another “cut” video,, Trump all the way,, Those Guys interviewing, smuks! If they know the Bible/God/Jesus, they too would know it is personal,, And beside with the way so many medias attack Trump,, he is aware of the fact,, they will just attack his religion as well. Trump is just to smart for them. God Bless Donald Trump!

  • Abdulrahman

    How quickly we forget all the “Obama is a secret Muslim!” accusations, coming from the right. Let’s not forget how Trump trolled Obama about needing to see Obama’s birth certificate!

    By the way, has anyone seen Mr. Trump’s birth certificate? What about Sen. Ted Cruz? Funny how big of a deal it was when it was Obama, or as right wingers like to refer to him B. Hussian Obama!

  • Feb thirteen

    LMAO, Trump in church!! Now that’s funny!

  • Beachbumpkin

    Trump wins again! When will the liberal nuts learn!!! 😉

  • christyjo0354

    Proud right wing nut here! 😉 Apparently, beheadings and burning people alive have no affect on your view of muslims. Anyone who lives by the Koran is evil! O has had the muslim brotherhood at the white house over and over again, he is giving the Iranians the nuclear bomb and is lifting sanctions thereby funding their terrorists activities. And that’s just a drop in the bucket of his muslim support. All this is information you can find on the web, you just have to stop being so damn lazy and do your own homework.

  • christyjo0354

    Proud right wing nut here! 😉 Apparently, beheadings and burning people alive have no affect on your view of muslims. Anyone who lives by the Koran is evil! O has had the muslim brotherhood at the white house over and over again, he is giving the Iranians the nuclear bomb and is lifting sanctions thereby funding their terrorists activities. And that’s just a drop in the bucket of his muslim support. Stop being so damn lazy and do your own homework.

  • christyjo0354

    I don’t watch FOX news! Try again! I’m just informed!

  • christyjo0354

    I had it wrong, it was at sunset, not the morning. http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=2&oref=slogin& I doubt you’ll read it though, you libs are all intellectually dishonest.

  • exit 7

    Peace and love to you

  • CAmom760

    You obviously think it isn’t, so again – why ask the question?

    “It’s immaterial to the office of President, but I’m going to ask you to name a verse in a book I don’t believe in.”

    Yeah, right. Not at ALL a waste of time, pfishing, condescending ‘gotcha’ question.

    It isn’t as if the country were in financial, international and societal trouble – so there were absolutely no other questions an actual journalist might have. I see how making some “points” so that one political party might be able to spin the answer in order to wound the other would be VASTLY more important than talking about how the country might recover.

    GREAT American, right there –

  • Carol Smith

    We have learned! We are watching all the righties fall for the hot air and lies Trump tells!

  • Jessie Henson Long

    First off I am not a guy. Second I am a whole Bible woman. Next please show me the scriptures you are getting your info from.

  • Jessie Henson Long

    Trump does go to church. Do you?

  • Jessie Henson Long

    Democrats are rushing to change parties so they can vote for him. Need to keep up with the news. He also has a clear list of how he feels on the issues. All you have to do is look it up. Try google.

  • Sven2547

    he supposedly converted from Islam to Christianity.

    At what point has he ever claimed he was a Muslim, then “converted to Christianity”? He was raised by his Christian mother and Christian grandparents.

    Who paid for his Harvard education?

    A question asked of zero other Presidential candidates. You’re really just proving my point with this obsession about minute details of his past. What, you think there is some kind of conspiracy going on here? Who do YOU think paid for it?

    Why are all his school records sealed?

    School records are sealed by default, for anyone who goes through college. Go to college yourself and you’ll figure that out.

  • Sven2547

    Do you have any idea when Swedes will be a minority in Sweden, with a Muslim majority.

    Muslims are 5% of the population of Sweden. The fact that you think they’re on the verge of being a majority speaks to how laughably out-of-touch you are. Drinking far-right-wing kool-aid and joining the Anders Breivik fan club.

    That said: I’m an American, born and raised. Same as my parents, same as my grandparents.

  • EuroDude707

    //Muslims are 5% of the population of Sweden//

    I would like to see your documenation

    //The fact that you think they’re on the verge//

    The fact..on the verge. Are you delusional or just a pathological liar?

    And tell me, liberal moron, do you have any idea about the demographic composition in Sweden, how many of the new-borns in Sweden are not indigenous Swedes? How many in Sweden will/can demand family-Reunion the coming decade.

    Again, WHEN will indigenous Swedes be a minority in their own country if no changes in the parameters.

    That you call me a Breivik fan only show what kind of filthy name-calling pig you are.

    You forgot to answer my questions, but I got the usual liberal smear from you disgusting people instead. You somehow “forgot” to call me a racist, in your desperate attempt to run away from your idiotic comment.

  • Mark-Theresa Coleman

    Now you are just being down right stupid, Christ came to fulfill the law, Paul says in 1Co 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
    1Co 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

  • EuroDude707

    //At what point has he ever claimed he was a Muslim, then “converted to Christianity”? He was raised by his Christian mother and Christian grandparents.//

    As I am not sure that you really is this uninformed, and not using the usual unfunny liberal “irony”, I will ask you to try to debunk this:

    http://www.danielpipes.org/11952/obama-muslim-childhood

    //A question asked of zero other Presidential candidates.//

    Really? Show me your documentation

    //School records are sealed by default, for anyone who goes through college.//

    As long as Obama is the only President of the Harvard Law Review, that has not written in the journal, it would be normal to go public with his supposedly brilliant grades by Harvard Law.

    Instead no explanation it given, same as all other cases, but you, the idiot, claim that he has “been more thoroughly investigated and scrutinized than any other American Presidential candidate in history”

    //Go to college yourself and you’ll figure that out.//

    I have international education from three elite universities. You?

  • sherrybb

    well we certainly know where you do your research and in the land of reality it is not.

  • sherrybb

    my schnauzer is more informed than you are.

  • Powerof Paranoia

    http://www.euro-islam.info/country-profiles/sweden/

    “Since 2007, there is an estimated 250,000 to 350,000 Muslims in Sweden, from 1.8% to 4.4% of the Swedish population of 9 million”

    Served.

  • Powerof Paranoia
  • EuroDude707

    Fanatically and vile pro mass-immigration Soros funded Open Society is your data “source”. Really?

  • WaterGirl3

    I watched him on stern in an old interview and he IS NOT fine with it all. Stern kept at him and he told him “look I don’t agree.”.

  • If Trump lies what do you all do? Quote Bible verses….give me break…lol

  • Zeke

    I wish we in Europe had someone like Trump

    You did. He committed suicide in 1945 while Americans were busy saving your sorry asses from him. He claimed to have God on his side too.

  • EuroDude707

    Hitler was a big state socialist. Hence National SOCIALIST party. Just like you liberals and left loonies in Europe.

    // He claimed to have God on his side too.//

    Really? What kind of “god” was he talking about. Tell me fool.

  • Zeke

    Your God, eurodouche:

    I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work. – Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

    Don’t you get discouraged by being proven wrong, repeatedly?

  • EuroDude707

    You seem to be too stupid to understand that Almighty Creator is a generic term. It is nowhere near the Christian God.

    Show me ONE renowned historian claiming that Hitler was a devout Christian. ONLY Atheist idiots and atheist hobby-historians make that imbecile claim. Including you, of course.

    I hope this is some kind of atheistic irony: //Don’t you get discouraged by being proven wrong, repeatedly?//

  • Zeke

    A generic creator that hates Jews? Of course he was referring to the Christian God. It’s not surprising that he had popular support, what with centuries of Christian lunatics like Luther and the Church teaching that Jews were vile heretics and blaming every societal ill on their presence among the faithful.

    I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so. – Adolf Hitler, to General Gerhard Engel, 1941

    Please stop, you’re embarrassing yourself eurodouche. Trump/Palin in 2016!

  • EuroDude707

    //Of course he was referring to the Christian God. //

    Then you will have NO problem of finding all the quotes where he talks about Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour.

    You will have NO problem with finding quotes where he talks about how he prays to seek wisdom from God in Jesus Name.

    You also “forgot” to find the renowned historian within academia that agrees with you pseudo-academic atheist morons, claiming that Hitler was a devout Christian.

    You know Hitler was a known liar, right?

    You know that there are MORE quotes from Hitler where he denounce and openly hate Christianity, and these quotes have a much better foundation, regarding who, when and where he said it to. Plus collaborated with his actions.

    I have read Mein Kampf in German. Have you? It was utterly pagan. Hitler was a Darwiniac. Just like you. In Christianity we are all created equal.

    Hitler developed “positive Christianity” where the Jew Jesus were taken out.

    Himmler, and most likely Hitler, belonged to the Thule order, based on the teachings of Helene Blavatsky. That’s where they got the Aryan race and Atlantis from .

    Swastika is a pagan symbol. Fire is pagan. SS had a non-Christian/pagan marriage ceremony.

    If one should use the Mickey Mouse method of you atheists, then one can cherry pick public statements form a known liar, ignore all his actions, ignore all his other statements and especially those said in secrecy to his inner circle, – then one would en up with “atheist proof” that Hitler only wanted peace. That the Jewish death camps were in reality happy labour camps, and that Poland attacked Germany first.

    This is the level of your atheist insanity. Pure psychotic rubbish based on the ignorance and stupidity of you atheists.

    I could go on and on. Fact is that you low-IQ uneducated atheist haters are the most ignorant and anti-academic group there is. What a bunch of delusional psychos.

    Do you have any academic education at all? Besides gender studies etc, of course.

  • EuroDude707

    Oh, and you can forget your eurodouche rant.

    I am Norwegian and second to none.

    You clearly have an enormous inferiority complex, forcing you to rant on about “eurodouche”, like a little immature child.

    What is your background? Do you even have the guts to say it?

  • Carol Smith

    In case you haven’t noticed over the years, quoting Bible verses is what the righties do most.

  • Zeke

    Oh, and you can forget your eurodouche rant. I am Norwegian and second to none.

    Then why do you go by EuroDude707? Last check, Norway was part of Europe. No, I think eurodouche is perfect.

    What is your background? Do you even have the guts to say it?

    Canadian and American. Generations before me were from Europe. Guts? You don’t even have the guts to make your Disqus profile public, douchebag. What are you hiding?

    Then you will have NO problem of finding all the quotes where he talks about Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour.

    Nah, it’s pretty clear from his public affirmations that he believed in Jesus. That’s what Christianity is, remember? You’ll just keep moving the goalposts anyways.

    You will have NO problem with finding quotes where he talks about how he prays to seek wisdom from God in Jesus Name.

    Speaking of moving the goalposts……

    You also “forgot” to find the renowned historian within academia that agrees with you pseudo-academic atheist morons, claiming that Hitler was a devout Christian.

    Oh, it’s “devout” now? You need to put wheels on those goalposts so they’re easier to move. You might hurt your back.

    You know Hitler was a known liar, right?

    Then you have something else in common with him, besides embarrassing religious and political beliefs. So how do you know he wasn’t lying in his statements denouncing Christianity?

    I have read Mein Kampf in German. Have you?

    Read it in English. BTW, you’d be reading everything in German if the Allies didn’t liberate your sorry asses.

    It was utterly pagan. Hitler was a Darwiniac. Just like you. In Christianity we are all created equal.

    Really? Then why did he ban Darwin’s works, and prevent atheists from membership in the SS? I though you were educated – please don’t tell me you’re an evolution denier? Are you a young-earth creationist too?

    If one should use the Mickey Mouse method of you atheists, then …. one would en up with “atheist proof” that Hitler only wanted peace. That the Jewish death camps were in reality happy labour camps, and that Poland attacked Germany first.

    You’re way off your meds eurodouche, what are you ranting about? You think atheists are holocaust deniers now? You do know what atheism means, don’t you?

    Fact is that you low-IQ uneducated atheist haters are the most ignorant and anti-academic group there is. What a bunch of delusional psychos.

    Funny that 93% of the National Academy of Sciences are atheist. You’re the nutter who believes in virgin births, original sin, and a personal God who watched dispassionately while 6 million of his chosen people died. Bonus craziness for suggesting that Obama is a secret Muslim (hat tip to your boy Trump), demanding to see his Harvard transcripts (cuz they were faked, dontcha know), and wondering who paid for his education (Muslim Manchurian Candidate creators, the Bilderberg Group, aliens – I don’t know, you didn’t say who). I know the concept of not having a state religion is new to you, as are non-whites in government positions, what with still maintaining a monarchy and all. Did they recently start showing Fox News in Norway or something?

    Do you have any academic education at all? Besides gender studies etc, of course.

    I could make up any academic credentials you like, but how would you know they’re legit? Only idiots ask for academic credentials (or brag about theirs) on internet forums.

    It’s pretty clear that Hitler hated organized Christianity, but still maintained a belief in God. He just took the pious rantings that are the basis of your historical state religion (how embarrassing) to their logical conclusion. But like Trump, he declared himself one of them to get the useful idiots on his side. And predictably, gullible Christians support him over the other religious nuts seeking the GOP nomination. Even, apparently, delusional Christians in Norway.

    You should pop by the US. There are more evangelical nuts in some states than in your entire country. You’d fit right in. Trump/Eurodouche in 2016!

  • EuroDude707

    This psycho-infantile rant with absurd childish insults is something for you medical doctor. Not me.

    Your “answer” reflects a disgusting personality, combined with both low intelligence and ignorance. Combine that with arrogance, and you have the perfect atheist internet troll. A total loser in real life.

    Bye.

  • Zeke

    Bye bye eurodouche!
    Keep watching for chemtrails and brown immigrants! Maybe Trump will help you build a wall and make the Muslim hordes pay for it!

  • Patrick James Bayham

    sorry dude..he was a right wing national socialist AKA the tea party.the SS had “god is our side” on their belt buckles..
    you cunting arsehole 🙂

  • CAmom760

    So what difference, at this point, does it make?

  • EuroDude707

    Yet another small minded, foul mouthed and immature liberal.

    1. What has the tea party to do with a big totalitarian state to do? Nothing. You socialists just love big totalitarian states. The Nazis were full blown liberals, and anti-Semitic as you Israel haters is today.

    2. //he SS had “god is our side” on their belt buckles..//

    Really? Did you get this from one of the millions of idiotic atheist sites. Filled with nonsense and fabrications?

    Your use of foul language just mirror you filthy mind and personality. Just as your atheist socialist friend Zeke.

    What is wrong with you atheist apes?

  • Patrick James Bayham

    wanker 🙂

  • Patrick James Bayham

    you do know your account isn’t private…:)
    it leads back to your web browsing…:)
    we know your crimes…

  • Sher Ed Mack

    I saw it with my own eyes, I heard it with my own ears. Snopes is a joke.

  • Sven2547

    Again, WHEN will indigenous Swedes be a minority in their own country if no changes in the parameters.

    Maybe a century? Only an idiot thinks this is even an issue.

  • EuroDude707

    I will give you some facts, liberal loser:

    1. Muslim immigration does not follow a linear but exponential function, as Muslims have a much higher birthrate, get husbands/wives from their own country, and can claim family reunion.

    2. Even according to our official statistical bureau, Oslo will have a Muslim majority and Norwegian minority within a few decades.

    And Sweden is in MUCH worse shape than Norway.

    Yet you, the liberal idiot, just KNOW that only idiots take this seriously. Right? And you base your analysis on what exactly? Hate, ignorance and stupidity?

  • EuroDude707

    And I was of course correct when I predicted: “You forgot to answer my questions, but I got the usual liberal smear from you disgusting people instead.”

    Don’t just run away from my questions and request for you to document your rubbish. Coward.

  • Zeke

    Not acceptable Sven, year, month and day please. Don’t forget to show your work.

  • Zeke

    Sounds like “second to none” Norway has a fertility problem. Have you tried praying the Muslims away? Well, at least it’s not Jews, right eurodouche?

    Unless you have a large brood of kids, I suggest you shut the fuck up. Those of us who have been laid know just what to do.

  • EuroDude707

    I told you, I am done wasting my time on an immature trash-talking, ignorant atheist ape like you.

  • Patrick James Bayham

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_mit_uns

    hows the education?
    learnt to read yet?

  • chickadee

    He has numerous similarities with Mussolini, and Ivana (wife number 1 of 3) even said he kept a copy of Hitler’s speeches in his bureau.

  • Patrick James Bayham

    right..go trolling them claim to be the victim..yup very right wing…:)

  • Patrick James Bayham

    the problem lies in the burden of proof,you make the claim,let’s see your evidence.
    before anything is debunked it has to be proven..get it? is this going in? just nod or drool if you understand?

  • chickadee

    No, he does not. Last Thursday the church released a statement saying the real estate developer is not an “active member.” “Donald Trump has had a longstanding history with Marble Collegiate Church, where his parents were for years active members and one of his children was baptized. However, as he indicates, he is a Presbyterian, and is not an active member of Marble,” the statement said.

    This was in response to Trumpolini’s recent statement, “The church I was originally with was the First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, which is out in Queens,” he said. “I’ve just had great experiences at church, whether it is Sunday School or whatever it may be, but now I go to Marble Collegiate Church.”

  • Zeke

    Then don’t reply. I’ll just keep calling you out on your ridiculous posts, douchebag.

  • EuroDude707

    I told you, I am done wasting my time on an immature trash-talking, ignorant atheist ape like you.

  • EuroDude707

    Not being active member in a church normally means that he is not part of the church chore, leading a Bible study, or being part of the group giving food and shelter to needy at night.

    Based on that you can not claim that he does not go to church.

  • EuroDude707

    Name and substantiate with facts (not your emotions) these similarities with Mussolini.

    Hitler was a very effective orator, so reading his speeches would be a good thing. Can you point to any adoption of Hitler’s policy? Hitler was a fan of a big state, gun control and single-payer health-care. Pretty much the standard Liberal political platform.

    I have the book of Saul Alinsky. Using your pseudo-logic, I must then be part of you hysterical and illogical liberals.

  • chickadee

    Not true AT. ALL.

  • EuroDude707

    How do you know? Are you a church goer? Do they take the ID of everyone joining their sermon and register the names and fingerprints in their database?

  • EuroDude707

    So you had to edit your post? Well, anyway. You still are a liar. You catagorically said he does not go to church.

    This statement show that you edited out vital parts of the statement;

    In a statement released to that network however, the church, which dates back to 1628, acknowledged a strong connection with Trump’s family but said he was not an active worshipper.

    “Donald Trump has had a longstanding history with Marble Collegiate Church, where his parents were for years active members and one of his children was baptized. However, as he indicates, he is a Presbyterian, and is not an active member of Marble,” the statement said.

    Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/marble-collegiate-church-says-donald-trump-is-not-an-active-member-143991/#u96rvOEDYQ0gPkLr.99

  • chickadee

    Fascism. About face from one party to another. Creating a cult of personality. To name a few. It appears he’s studied Hitler’s oratorial style. Scary.

    I’m not hysterical, but you certainly are. If you think this fool, this buffoon, this national embarrassment should be president of the United States, why don’t you give me reasons why. What are his plans? He says absolutely nothing. “Grand. It’ll be great. I’ll do it better.” blah blah blah. If it’s a real estate deal you want, he might be your man, but he knows zippity do dah about governance.

  • Zeke

    Apparently you aren’t done. You even lied about that, eurodouche.

  • chickadee

    You’re on the verge of an aneurysm, Mary. Calm down.

  • EuroDude707

    You have NO idea where even the name fascism comes from, do you?

    And yes, the hysterical one is you. That he studies Hitlers “style” is pure fantasy from you. I have a CD with great speeches. Including Hitler as well as Churchill. Anyone studying public speaking should study Hitler as well. Not to understand him, but to understand the listener.

    The devise hatred is not found in Trump, but among you liberal haters that divide any society into sub-groups and set them up against each other man vs women, black vs white, rich vs poor. Without hate between all these synthetic groups you liberals have made, you have nothing. The true big state Nazis and Fascists are YOU.

  • EuroDude707

    Go to bed, liberal psycho.

  • EuroDude707

    No idea what you are talking about. Are you smoking weed again, lib?

  • chickadee

    I didn’t get the quotes from the same publication. I edited for clarity, but that’s the absolute last time I will answer your baseless accusations (I am not a liar). You’re an arrogant jerk, that bully kid who chases others around. Laughable. I see you typing away feverishly! OMG, get the nitroglycerin!

  • chickadee

    Hahaha. Yet we won, and you lost. Sore losers, all. That scornful label, LIBS. Oh, dear! Get the smelling salts. OUCH! Hahahaha. That’s rich!

  • EuroDude707

    Sure, you “edited for clarity”. Sadly you left out the Trump family’s strong connection to the Church.

    And you clearly are not able to substantiate you claim that he never goes to church. Another lie from you .

    //You’re an arrogant jerk, that bully kid who chases others around. Laughable. I see you typing away feverishly! OMG, get the nitroglycerin!//

    This is just the usual liberal trash-talk when you try to “debate” like grown-ups. But you liberals never truly grow up, do you?

  • EuroDude707

    You won? Are you on crack? Big state communism totally collapsed. Socialism was ditched all over the place. What did you do? In Europe you imported Muslim voters by the millions. In America you imported democrat voters in the millions from socialist hell-holes in Latin America.

    Without opening the borders and calling everyone who opposed a racist, you totalitarian big state psychos (liberals, socialists, Nazis, Fascists, Communists) would never ever win an election again.

  • EuroDude707

    Thank you. – You liberals are so predictable that I can copy and paste the very answer I gave to the previous liberal, the one you replied to. If the filthiness and lack of logic among you liberals were not so sad, it could have been funny. OK, here is your answer:

    You DO realize that your comment is totally void of any facts and logic, and contains nothing but hate and stupidity, right?

    Sadly, your trash talk is the modus operandi by liberals, so I guess you are one of them.

  • EuroDude707

    I made the claim and gave the link to danielpipes.org . It should be obvious for any person with average intelligence to see.

    //is this going in? just nod or drool if you understand?//

    You DO see that your own filthy comment fit you very well, right?

  • George Murrey

    What’s your best atheist book verse?

  • EuroDude707

    Oh, the level of liberal stupidity. Do you seriously believe I am just as retarded as you and did not know? Did you read the wiki article?

    1. This was not SS, as you claimed. They had Meine Ehre heißt Treue. Educate yourself, liberal ignoramus. In your initial comment you could not even quote the slogan correctly. This is the level of breath-taking ignorance from you vile liberals.

    2. The slogan was LONG time before Hitler, yet you atheist idiots operate as it was Hitler who invented and implemented Gott mit Uns.

    You atheists are such liars.

  • EuroDude707

    Seriously, you sound mental. Or just like a usual liberal atheist. Hard to discriminate.

  • EuroDude707

    You said “he is bombing them you know? ”

    Hussein Obama is bombing Da’esh. The same does Saudi-Arabia, the world’s biggest exporter of terrorism, Wahhabism and Salafism. Yet using your liberal/atheist line of reasoning, Saudi-Arabia therefore can’t be Muslim.

    Hussein Obama has sided with the Muslim Brotherhood EVERY time he had to choose.

    Explain why Obama had to bomb and topple Qaddafi. How is Libya now, compared to before. Compare that to the start of a revolution in Iran, did Hussein Obama support them? But he DID support the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? And Muslim terrorists, now al-Qa’ida associates in Syria, against their secular leaders.

    How do you explain this? And show me how he supported, if at all, the viciously persecuted Christians in the area.

  • chickadee

    HUSSEIN! HUSSEIN! HUSSEIN! HUSSEIN! HUSSEIN! HUSSEIN! AHHHHHHHH! I’m truly laughing out loud. You’re cracking me up whilst I smoke my Lib weed and crack (I alternate, like all good Libs!) and drink my Lib Kool Aid. Hussein? Isn’t that one of them there furrner names? Why, yes, Mary, I believe it is! It ain’t Murrikan like Murray and Smith and Jones and Trump and Walker and Cruz (whoops!), er, and Bush and Carson and Rubio (whoops again!).

    That’s the stupidest, most inane comment you have made, and that’s saying a lot. It really does show who you are. HAHAHAHAHA!

    You’re a bigoted and arrogant little man, and I feel sorry for you. Truly. I will pray for you.

  • EuroDude707

    Aah, the usual inept liberal ramble, based on hate, stupidity and vast ignorance.

    You have zero clue about the Islamic implications regarding Hussein, do you? Let me educate you while you smoke some more weed liberal.

    Barack Hussein Obama was/(is – who knows) a Muslim:

    http://www.danielpipes.org/11952/obama-muslim-childhood

    However, HUSSEIN Obama has never explained how he found out that Islam was a false religion and why he found out that Christianity was the true religion and consequently converted to Christianity.

    Most Ex-Muslim Christian converts change their Muslim names, so why did Barack Hussein Obama not change his names?

    A. Barack – Arabic/Muslim blessed

    B Hussein – Arabic for good. Not used in pre-Islamic era. False prophet Muhammad was first one to name a person Hussein in recorded history, when he named his grandson Husayn ibn Ali. The false prophet Muhammad claimed he had been commanded to do so by the fallen angel masquerading as archangel Gabriel. So this name has a strong spiritual meaning for Muslims, and every few Christians with ex-Muslim background will keep something like that.

  • chickadee

    You mistake me with someone who gives a flying eff WHAT his religion is. I don’t care. I know plenty of God loving, decent, wonderful Christians, and I know plenty of God loving, decent, wonderful Muslims, and I know plenty of loving, decent, wonderful agnostics and atheists. We in the USA do not live in a theocracy. Got it? Thanks. Now go and pleasure yourself to naked pictures of your Saint Donald’s (EDITED TO ADD THIRD!) wife, Melania.

  • EuroDude707

    I replied to you fellow ignorant and illogical liberal who just KNEW that Obama was not a Muslim and everyone who said so was an idiot.

    So for you to ramble on now, that you don’t care what he is, has NO logical connection to this debate.

    If you believe Muslims worship God, then you must explain how “god” can say that one of the most evil men in the recorded history of mankind, false prophet Muhammad (according to their OWN “holy” scriptures), is the most perfect man for all mankind for all times (al-Insan al-Kamil الإنسان الكامل ), and the one ALL Muslim shall emulate. Who else than satan himself would make such a claim. Either that or there were no angel, etc, and Islam is a fake religion based on lies from an evil desert warlord.

    It is also telling how much you as a liberal just love Islam.

    You liberals always embrace death and destruction. Your moral compass is utterly broken, if you ever had one.

  • EuroDude707

    As usual, all the dirty and filthy comments from you liberals, are nothing but a reflection of your dirty and filthy mind. You are no exception. Enjoy your own comment:

    //Now go and pleasure yourself to naked pictures of your Saint Donald’s (EDITED TO ADD THIRD!) wife, Melania.//

  • Patrick James Bayham

    🙂 so you admit you don’t know?

  • Patrick James Bayham

    and that was bollox. next.
    and why are you so upset? 🙂

  • Patrick James Bayham

    ok 🙂 you are so sure….

  • Patrick James Bayham

    so you actually strung some words together…of course the ss didn’t have it..it was to test to see if you could read and research..well done.

  • chickadee

    Eurodude707 — “As usual, all the dirty and filthy comments from you liberals, are nothing but a reflection of your dirty and filthy mind.”

    I didn’t write anything dirty or filthy. I just wrote that you should pleasure yourself utilizing photos of your next First “Lady” (ha. ha ha. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha). I know you who repress have trouble with s-e-x, but just google image “Melania Trump naked.” Loads of photos of her bare breasts, her landing strip, and her otherwise barely covered nether regions for those who cannot take the full Monty. Woo hoo, it’s a Tea Party holiday because it’s Melania, The Foreigner, and it’s allowed!

    Just make sure to clean up after yourself, won’t you? We’re trying to maintain a clean environment around here.

  • EuroDude707

    You have been exposed as a total atheist liberal dimwit, and you know it. You failed with both logic and facts on so many levels, and for you to come now and whine and bitch about some kind of test only makes you look like an extremely dishonest person (typical atheist with zero objective morality) as well.

  • EuroDude707

    Psychological projection.

    Too many of you liberal (socialist) atheists are truly immoral and disgusting.

    You ruined my country Norway.

  • EuroDude707

    Sure liberal atheist.

    Then you can name the WORST implemented policy in the Western world, solely based on Christian politicians taking Bible verses out of context.

    Provide factual documentation, and not just your own liberal feelings and fantasy land rambling.

    Go on and make me laugh.

  • EuroDude707

    Pretty pathetic that you, a fanatic Obama supporter, claim that Obama’s “past was been more thoroughly investigated and scrutinized than any other American Presidential candidate in history.”

    And then couldn’t even state his religion correctly.

    Do you mind if I ask you some more truly basic questions regarding Obama?

  • Sven2547

    Muslim immigration does not follow a linear but exponential function, as Muslims have a much higher birthrate

    Muslims are 5% of the Swedish population. Five percent. The percentage of Muslims could double every generation and they would still be a minority 60 years from now. And that’s assuming the birthrate doesn’t slow down and that none of them leave their religion.

    What do you propose? Banning Islam? Killing them all? Sterilizing them all? You’re just another far-right fascist.

  • Sven2547

    I answered your question. You asked “when”. I told you: maybe a century. That’s not “running away”, it’s the truth.

  • Sven2547

    Pretty pathetic that you, a fanatic Obama supporter, claim that Obama’s “past was been more thoroughly investigated and scrutinized than any other American Presidential candidate in history.”

    And I backed it up. Heck, you’re supporting my point whenever you bring up his elementary school transcript. That’s some deep, deep knowledge of his past that doesn’t even compare to any other Presidential candidate in history.

    And then couldn’t even state his religion correctly.

    Christian. United Church of Christ.

  • Sven2547

    These are publicly-available statistics. You’re the one who brought up Swedish Muslims, and you don’t even know the basic facts about the subject matter? Wow.

    What do YOU think the numbers are? Please remember to cite sources. Because so far we’re the only one bringing facts to this discussion. All you’re bringing is bluster and xenophobia.

  • Rob M
  • EuroDude707

    No, show me where you answered these questions, liberal liar:

    1. //Muslims are 5% of the population of Sweden//

    I would like to see your documenation

    2.//The fact that you think they’re on the verge//

    The fact..on the verge. Are you delusional or just a pathological liar?//

    You did not answer, just ran away. Again, show me the supposed quote that you ramble on as a “fact”, liberal liar.

    3. You never answered these questions: //And tell me, liberal moron, do you have any idea about the demographic composition in Sweden, how many of the new-borns in Sweden are not indigenous Swedes? How many in Sweden will/can demand family-Reunion the coming decade//

    4. //Maybe a century? Only an idiot thinks this is even an issue.

    //
    Do you see yourself how stupid you sound? Only an idiot would think that vile mass-immigration resulting in the indiginous population will be a minority within less than 100 years? Really?
    And here we are using YOUR crazy numbers. Clearly you hate both the Swedish culture and heritage. Most likley you are an anti-white racists, as I am sure you would NEVER have said that only an idiot would see it as an issue, if whites took over the majority in any given African nation.
    Your sick anti-white racism is in full display. And for the Swedes, it is even worse. They are even paying for becoming a minority. They are also repaid by rampant crime, rape and corruption.
    But in your delusional and hatefilled mind, only a “Breivik”, “fascist”, “xenophobe”, “idiot” etc, would even think that’s an issue.
    You must be truly sick in your head to reach such a conclusion.

  • Sven2547

    1. //Muslims are 5% of the population of Sweden//

    I would like to see your documenation

    Again: this is is publicly available statistic. Your ignorance of the basic subject matter is your shortcoming, not mine.

    Your sick anti-white racism is in full display.

    lol what?! What have I said that’s “anti-white racism”? You’re insane.

  • EuroDude707

    1. //Muslims are 5% of the Swedish population. Five percent//

    No, this is just your fantasy version. I have more than once asked you to document your claim.

    2. // The percentage of Muslims could double every generation and they would still be a minority 60 years from now.//

    This is not an exponantial function. Learn basic math.

    3. //What do you propose? Banning Islam? Killing them all? Sterilizing them all?//

    No idea what you are talking about here. What is your point? We should not disguss the insane Muslim mass-immigration in Sweden? You make no logical sense.

    4. // You’re just another far-right fascist//
    And of course I get the usual unsubstaniated smear from you “tolerant” and “open-minded” liberal haters.
    I DARE you to substantiate that claim.
    As usual you filhty liberals can’t argue with facts and logic so you, the true haters and lover of a big totalitarian state (just like the Nazis, Fascists and communists) are you liberals. YOU are a fascist. YOU are a racist, as it is OK for white Sweden to be overrun, but you have NEVER argued in favour of native Americans becoming a minority in their country. I am totally sure of it. Prove me wrong you nazi big state racist.

  • EuroDude707

    I know the subject matter. You don’t.
    You said 5%. You prove it.

  • EuroDude707


    You claimed that he never converted from Islam. Thate he never was a Muslim.

    How can a fanatic Obama fan boy not know this basic fact, when, according to you – the delusional liberal moron – “was been more thoroughly investigated and scrutinized than any other American Presidential candidate in history.”

    //Heck, you’re supporting my poiny””

    No, I am not supporting your point. I am supporting the point that the main stream media kept that hidden. And you Obama drones were too stupid to even notice and understand it.

    I asked if I could ask you more basic questions regarding your “thoroughly investigated and scrutinized” president Hussein Obama.
    You, of course, never answered. How come, liberal?

  • Sven2547

    1. //Muslims are 5% of the Swedish population. Five percent//

    No, this is just your fantasy version. I have more than once asked you to document your claim.

    Here is an official report. If you think it is wrong, substantiate your claim.
    http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2009/127339.htm

    2. // The percentage of Muslims could double every generation and they would still be a minority 60 years from now.//
    This is not an exponantial function. Learn basic math.

    Substantiate the claim that it will grow “exponentially”.

    3. //What do you propose? Banning Islam? Killing them all? Sterilizing them all?//

    No idea what you are talking about here. What is your point?

    Complaining about a “problem” without offering a solution is called “whining”. You claim that Islam in Sweden is a problem. What is your solution?

    As usual you filhty liberals can’t argue with facts and logic

    You have offered neither facts nor logic so far.

    Prove me wrong you nazi

    First you call me an “anti-white racist”, now you call me a “Nazi”? You do know Nazis were white-supremacists, right? You’re the one spouting claims and talking-points cribbed right from Stormfront.

  • Sven2547

    Given your unsubstantiated belief that Obama used to be a Muslim, then converted, I have no confidence whatsoever in your grasp of the “facts”. What purpose is served by you continuing to ask questions when you refuse to accept the answers?

  • EuroDude707

    //Again: this is is publicly available statistic. Your ignorance of the basic subject matter is your shortcoming, not mine.//

    lol. Typical pseudo-academic liberal moron. You make a factual claim, Muslims only 5% in Sweden, and when asked for documentation, your answer is of course:

    1. Google it

    2. You are an idiot just for asking me to document my own rubbish claims.

    lol. Liberal psycho in full display.

    //lol what?! What have I said that’s “anti-white racism”? You’re insane.//
    I gave you full explanation why you are an anti-white racist. Unless you can debunk my claim, YOU are clearlly the filthy and trashy liberal with an insane mind.
    Don’t be a hater, liberal fool.

  • Sven2547

    Please support your claim that it’s not 5%. I’ve already linked an official report on the religious composition of Sweden.

    Seriously: what the heck is the matter with you?

  • Sven2547

    Oh wow, a Daniel Pipes fanboy. That explains everything. The man is an anti-Muslim crank who pushes all sorts of fact-free conspiracy theories.

  • EuroDude707

    I disputed your claim. The ONUS is on the maker of the claim, not the person disputing it.

    WHERE did you link to any official report.

    ALL I have is either one of your fanboys, or one of your sock accounts, ranting on about some trash from a biased Soros funded organization. This is NOT “an official report on the religious composition of Sweden.”

    Seriously, you are even MORE delusional and dishonest than the usual liberal with a brain fried after massive drug abuse. Are you quite well?

  • EuroDude707

    No, you have not “already” linked an official report. You did that LONG AFTER I made my comment to you.

    Liar.

    I am looking into your official report now. This will be fun.

  • EuroDude707

    Your link is a joke, as is your “documentation”.

    The numbers are old. 2009

    The “source” is an American source, where they don’t even quote their source. What kind of “documentation” is that?

    This is the full text “Approximately 5 percent (450,000-500,000) of the population is Muslim,”

    That means that even you old source, admits that they really don’t know. But in your deranged head, only a racist would dispute your old numbers presented as up-to-date data.

    This is all you’ve got? You anti-white liberal racists sure have no idea how academic research functions. Do you have any education at all? Outside some pseudo-academic gender studies etc, of course.

  • Sven2547

    I disputed your claim.

    You disputed it baselessly.

    WHERE did you link to any official report.

    I’ll link it again, you illiterate buffoon:

    http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2009/127339.htm

  • Sven2547

    You have not yet actually refuted anything I have provided, just a string of baseless personal attacks. How many Muslims do you think there are in Sweden, and can you support your claims?

  • Sven2547

    I’ve linked it twice now. Please support your counterclaim that it’s not roughly 5%.

    You won’t. You have nothing but insults and innuendo.

  • EuroDude707

    You asked the same question in another reply just minutes ago. I will answer there.

    But first. Do you agree that Sweden is in worse shape than Norway, regarding Muslim immigration? Or are you deranged and dispute that.

  • Sven2547

    But first.

    No. No more “but firsts”. I’m the only one who has offered any substance to this discussion. Now you shall be taken to task for your baseless claims. Strike one.

    How many Muslims do you think there are in Sweden, and can you support your claims?

  • Sven2547

    Hitler was a Darwiniac.

    lol please. On The Origin of Species was one of the books banned by the Third Reich, in stark contrast to The Bible.

  • EuroDude707

    Little child. I will make a stand-alone post as a reply, so it does not drown in you hysterical comments.

  • EuroDude707

    I will make a stand-alone reply to you.

  • EuroDude707

    Nazism is an ideology. You seem to think it only can exist in Germany and in accordance with their form for racism. Again no logic from you

  • Sven2547

    Nazism is an ideology.

    Yes. It is an ideology of white-Christian supremacy. It is an ideology that is contemptuous of liberalism, non-heterosexuals, Jews, Roma, and Communists. Nazism seeks to isolate and destroy anyone who doesn’t meet a conservative white Christian “ideal”.

    You seem to think it only can exist in Germany and in accordance with their form for racism.

    I never claimed that at all.

  • EuroDude707

    No, race is interchangeable.

    S.A. were dominated by homosexuals

    National SOCIALISM is pro big state. Pro government interference. Pro social engineering by the state. Pro heavy taxation. Pro government intervention in the market. Fanatic Darwiniacs. Pro insane gun control. Socialist health care. Schools not learning facts and how to think, but more what to think. Vile hatred of Christianity and Judaism. Every cross kicked out of public schools and replaced with a photo of Hitler. Christianity perverted and all resembles of a Jewish Jesus kicked out and replaced with “positive Christianity”, the Nazi version of “Christianity”..

    Google “Mit brennender Sorge” and educate yourself, liberal fool and ignoramus.

  • Sven2547

    No, race is interchangeable.

    Nope. Nazism is intrinsically white-supremacist.

    S.A. were dominated by homosexuals

    Oh wow, someone who actually believe the slanderous “pink swastika” myth. Homosexuals were sent to the death camps along with the Jews, Roma, and communists.

    National SOCIALISM is pro big state. Pro government interference. Pro social engineering by the state.

    All conservative traits. I love the obsessive attention to the word “socialism”, as if the 1930s definition of “socialism” even remotely compares to the contemporary modern American conservative’s definition of “socialism”.

    Fanatic Darwiniacs.

    Not even close.

    Pro insane gun control.

    Gun rights expanded under the Third Reich.

    Schools not learning facts and how to think, but more what to think.

    Just like modern Christian schools.

    Vile hatred of Christianity

    Not even close. Between Christian mottos, Christian slogans, Christian propaganda and the fact that the overwhelming majority of Nazis were Christians, this is some world-class historical revisionism on your part.

    Google “Mit brennender Sorge”

    It’s no secret that Pius XI was critical of the Third Reich. His successor Pius XII, however, was an enthusiastic supporter.

    Go to ANY neo-Nazi website. Stormfront, for example. Ask them what they think about progressives. They’ll all say the same stuff as you. They are proudly, openly right-wing.

  • EuroDude707

    1. //Nope. Nazism is intrinsically white-supremacist.//

    Show me how National Socialism STRUCTURALLY and LOGICALLY can ONLY be WHITE racists.

    2. //Oh wow, someone who actually believe the slanderous “pink swastika” myth. Homosexuals were sent to the death camps along with the Jews, Roma, and communists//

    From Wiki: The homosexuality of Röhm and other SA leaders was made public to add “shock value”[22] even though the sexuality of Röhm and other named SA leaders had actually been known by Hitler and other Nazi leaders for years.[22]

    It is a well known fact. I can read German and you clearly not.

    3. //as if the 1930s definition of “socialism” even remotely compares to the contemporary modern American conservative’s definition of “socialism”.//

    Document the alleged difference, make me laugh.

    4. //Fanatic Darwiniacs.

    Not even close.//

    The whole idea of Aryans being more/better evolved compared to Jews is based on Darwinism. In Christianity all are created equal and in the image of God.

    You are virtually lying through your teeth in every post. This is how you liberals operate.

  • Sven2547

    Still waiting for this “stand alone reply”, chief.

  • Sven2547

    Show me how National Socialism STRUCTURALLY and LOGICALLY can ONLY be WHITE racists.

    Pick up a copy of Mein Kampf. It’s says it quite clearly.

    That some high-ranking Nazi officers were homosexuals does not refute the fact that homosexuals were one of the groups targeted for extermination.

    Document the alleged difference, make me laugh.

    Document that they are one and the same, why don’t you? These days, “socialist” is Republican-speak for “things I don’t like”. In the 1920s and 1930s, socialism was the wave of the future and had a massive effect upon the political discourse. Lots of people used the terminology of Marxism without necessarily signing up to it or even understanding it.
    Marx saw the world as an economic class struggle. Hitler’s view was completely different: he saw it as a racial struggle.

    The whole idea of Aryans being more/better evolved compared to Jews is based on Darwinism.

    lol please. German antisemitism long predates Darwin and it was deeply steeped in Christianity. Google “blood libel”. Heck, up until the 1950s, the Catholic Church taught that the Jews, as a people, were responsible for the death of Jesus; the crime of deicide. And again: The Origin was one of the books banned by the Third Reich.

    Yet again: why is it that all neo-Nazi groups, as well as closely-affiliated groups (e.g. the KKK) are proudly anti-progressive? You need to address this. To seriously believe that these are leftist ideologies is to remain willingly ignorant.

  • EuroDude707

    5. //Pro insane gun control.

    Gun rights expanded under the Third Reich//.

    Ridiculous claim. From wiki> The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German ReichsbahnRailways were exempted

    Communists etc could just forget to get a permit.

    6. // Between Christian mottos, Christian slogans, Christian propaganda and the fact that the overwhelming majority of Nazis were Christians, this is some world-class historical revisionism on your part.//

    Absolutely rubbish. I would like to see you substantiate your claim with documentation.

    7. //Google “Mit brennender Sorge”

    It’s no secret that Pius XI was critical of the Third Reich. His successor Pius XII, however, was an enthusiastic supporter.//

    A typical filthy lie from you godhating liberal ateists. Take a look a this, fool:

    Another event that took place just weeks earlier made Radio Moscow’s insinuation outright ridiculous. On February 13, 1945, the chief rabbi of Rome and his wife, Israel and Emma Zolli, converted to Catholicism during a widely popularized ceremony. Zolli adopted the Christian name Eugenio to honor the man who, according to him, had done so much to protect the Jews during the war: Pope Pius XII, born Eugenio Pacelli. In his 1945 memoir, Zolli explained: No other hero in history has commanded such an army; an army of priests works in cities and small towns to provide bread for the persecuted and passports for the fugitives. Nuns go into canteens to give hospitality to women refugees. Superiors of convents go out into the night to meet German soldiers who look for victims …. Pius XII is followed by all with the fervor of that charity that fears no death. 6

    Pacepa, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai; Rychlak, Ronald (2013-06-25). Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism (p. 55). WND Books. Kindle Edition.

    Radio Moscow’s insinuation that Pius XII was “Hitler’s Pope” attracted no attention whatsoever in the West, because the pope’s heroic support of the Allies and generous aid to the Jews during World War II was still fresh in people’s minds. They knew this man too well, based on the word of the highest Western authorities, for the insinuation to take hold. On August 3, 1944, President Franklin D. Roosevelt wrote to the pontiff: I should like … to take this occasion to express to His Holiness my deeply-felt appreciation of the frequent actions which the Holy See has taken … to render assistance to the victims of racial and religious persecutions. 7 On September 6, 1944, Winston Churchill announced: “I have spoken today to the greatest man of our time.” 8 Churchill admired Pius XII’s “simplicity, sincerity and power.” 9 Albert Einstein wrote: “Only the Church protested against the Hitlerian onslaught on liberty. Up till then I had not been interested in the Church, but today I felt a great admiration for the Church, which alone has had the courage to struggle for spiritual truth and moral liberty.” 10

    Pacepa, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai; Rychlak, Ronald (2013-06-25). Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism (p. 56). WND Books. Kindle Edition.

    I have much more.

    8. //Go to ANY neo-Nazi website. Stormfront, for example. Ask them what they think about progressives. They’ll all say the same stuff as you. They are proudly, openly right-wing.//

    They hate Christianity and Christians/Jews with a passion. They hate individual freedom, free market capitalism, and a small state.

    They love everything except to immorality of liberals. All the rest is just the same. Using your deranged thinking Pepsi and Coca Cola must be totally different as they were fighting so hard for market shares for decades

    Again you prove yourself to be an ignorant, low-IQ liberal fool.

  • Sven2547

    Gun rights expanded under the Third Reich//.

    Ridiculous claim. From wiki> The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials o f the central government, the states, and employees of the German ReichsbahnRailways were exempted

    Wow, you just supported my point. You’re so dense you don’t even get that.

    Absolutely rubbish. I would like to see you substantiate your claim with documentation.

    Here’s a nice list: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/09/17/list-of-hitler-quotes-in-honor/

    A typical filthy lie from you godhating liberal ateists. Take a look a this, fool:

    …and then you go on to cite irrelevant junk about the Catholic Church being charitable, and some people saying Pius XII was a great guy. It doesn’t change the fact that he lent considerable political support to the Third Reich. He told German Catholic churches to celebrate Hitler’s birthday. He commanded the Catholic Centrist Party of Germany to lend their support to the Nazis.

    They hate Christianity and Christians/Jews with a passion.

    They are explicitly pro-Christian. Heck, non-Christians aren’t even allowed to join most neo-Nazi and similar organizations. The KKK is explicitly Protestant.

  • EuroDude707

    That Darwin was banned is an urban myth, propagandized by atheists.

    On the contrary. Nazis loved Darwin and quoted him:

    https://archive.org/details/NaziPrimerTheHitlerYouthManual

    Page 26

  • Asemodeus

    Don’t forget that the Vatican only excommunicated one Nazi party official. Not because he was a Nazi but because he married a protestant girl. To the Vatican, inter-faith marriage was worse than Nazism.

  • Sven2547

    The official Nazi Library Journal (1935) lists 12 categories of banned books, one of which was:

    6. Schriften weltanschaulichen und lebenskundlichen Charakters, deren Inhalt die falsche naturwissenschaftliche Aufklrung eines primitiven Darwinismus und Monismus ist.

    6. Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism.

    http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/burnedbooks/documents.htm#guidelines

  • Sven2547

    Where’s this “reply” I keep hearing about? All you do is bloviate and demand other people prove your baseless assertions wrong.

  • EuroDude707

    Provide me an official German link. I don’t trust libraries run by liberal psychos. You lie as if it were your second nature.

  • EuroDude707

    You are so deceitful that you just cut your quotes and leave out qualifiers. You do this again and again.

    Thus your “replies” are based on a stream of straw man fallacies.

    Give full quotes, including the qualifiers you lying leftie moron

  • Sven2547

    I linked a prestigious university, and I cited the original German work. If you refuse to trust the source, that is your shortcoming, not mine. It’s not like I linked some random liberal blog. It is a fact that this was one of the categories of banned books under the Third Reich. Deal with it.

    You’re exhibiting a classic reflexive defense mechanism. When confronted with facts that interfere with your obsessively-held worldview, you immediately snap to denial. “It’s a lie!” you say to yourself. “It’s all a conspiracy!” As if the University of Arizona has some crazy reason to lie about that – a lie which would be easy to debunk and potentially embarrass the university.

    If you’re so convinced it’s not true, go pull up the 1935 Nazi Library Journal (in whatever language you like) and prove Arizona.edu wrong.

    But you won’t. Because you’re all bluster and no substance.

  • Sven2547

    Here’s a quote for you:

    I will make a stand-alone reply to you.

    Still waiting for you to support your claim that the Swedish Muslim population is not roughly 5%.

  • Patrick James Bayham

    I see you’ve expanded your vocabulary with the word “bed”
    have you wet it yet?

  • Patrick James Bayham

    even a ladybird book of history has more facts than you.:)

  • Patrick James Bayham

    hello wanker..you still here? 🙂

  • Patrick James Bayham

    you have nothing..you know nothing. your mind is blank and your brains are about 3 feet from your head.

  • Patrick James Bayham

    lol.you sad little coward.
    you fail the john oliver history lies test…FOOL!

  • Patrick James Bayham

    projection is a very valid delusion.

  • Patrick James Bayham

    at least we now know your reading age.

  • Patrick James Bayham

    its all you do..copy and paste.
    glad you’re proud of it..happy for you.
    you have gained a skill.

  • Patrick James Bayham

    all people are apes…:)
    sorry..i forgot…….have to type within certain parameters so to make sure
    you understand.
    it hurts thinking down at your level.

  • EuroDude707

    I would like to see your documentation.

    The Catholic church does not excommunicate based on politics. Nor sins.

    So your excommunication claim is illogical.

  • Asemodeus

    Hitchens said so.

    The varican failed to take a hardline stance against European fascism because of Mussolini. When fascism arrived in Italy the Vatican played ball with the new government. In exchange for getting their own country and being the official state religion, the Vatican proclaimed Missolini to be the divine ruler of Italy, which helped a lot with propping up his new government.

    It also bears note that Italy and Nazi Germany were close allies.

  • John Gray

    Forbidden to eat pork? You need chapter and verse? Back to the kid’s Sunday School class for you.
    Don’t cut the hair on the side of your head? Leviticus 19:27.
    Wearing clothes made two different fabrics Deuteronomy 22:11, Leviticus 19:19.

  • EuroDude707

    1.

    Wow, you just supported my point. You’re so dense you don’t even get that.

    No, the main idea behind private gun ownership, as seen in the US, is protection against a potentially tyrannic government/state.

    So for the Nazis to confiscate privately owned guns from their enemies and flood guns in the group that either directly or indirectly are controlled by the sate is not supporting your point. Only a deranged liberal person would make such a low-IQ claim

    2. Again, provide documentation for your claim and show me Nazi Germans:

    Christian mottos, Christian slogans, Christian propaganda and the fact that the overwhelming majority of Nazis were Christians

    2-A. Christian Mottos

    2-B. Christian Slogans

    2-C. Christian Propaganda

    2- D. That the Nazis were Christians. Your claim is only rational if you can show that Nazis had a demographic composition of more or equal amount of Christians as the normal distributed population. And secondly that these were devout Christians. If you count nominal/cultural Christians then your claim is meaningless.

    A list of quote mining from speeches is far from the definition of motto, slogan etc. I see that you used an atheist fanatics site as source. They are normally riddled with errors and fabrications. I looked at the first quote there, supposedly from Mein Kampf and could not find it in my English version, nor my German version. Can you give page number and full German quotation of this supposed quote from Mein Kampf? Or is it the usual atheistic rubbish and fabrications?

    3.

    some people saying

    When the chief Rabbi in Rome, Churchill and Roosevelt suddenly are dismissed as “some people saying”, then you know that you are talking to a liberal psycho where facts and logic has no meaning any more.

    Very well, more evidence that you are filthy liberal atheist liar:

    From Jewish Virtual Library:

    860,000 Lives Saved – The Truth About Pius XII & the Jews
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/piusdef.html

    4. I would like to see your documentation for this:
    blockquote> .and then you go on to cite irrelevant junk about the Catholic Church being charitable, and some people saying Pius XII was a great guy. It doesn’t change the fact that he lent considerable political support to the Third Reich. He told German Catholic churches to celebrate Hitler’s birthday. He commanded the Catholic Centrist Party of Germany to lend their support to the Nazis.

    5. More lies from you, I would like to see your documentation. My personal experience is that most of them are either pagans or atheists. Provide documentation for your claim:

    They are explicitly pro-Christian. Heck, non-Christians aren’t even allowed to join most neo-Nazi and similar organizations. The KKK is explicitly Protestant.

  • EuroDude707

    Hitchen is a known liar. He was such a moron that he believed that Gott mit Uns on the German uniform was a thing from Hitler, and not from Preussen, even before Germany was formed as a state.

    Documentation. Academic please, and not form atheist known atheist morons and liars.

  • EuroDude707

    1. I have read Mein Kampf in German. You clearly not.

    2. You claimed that the term socialism has changed, and when Hitler ranted on about socialism it was something completely different.

    When asked for documentation, you start with your personal rant about you think that socialism today for republicans is things they don’t like?

    Sorry, liberal psycho. Your own delusions and misconceptions don’t substitute documented facts. Try again, and please no more Mickey Mouse trash, where you make up your own reality and present them as facts.

    3. Liar. I did not talk about German antisemitism, but the idea behind the superiority of the Aryan race.

    4. I provided you a pdf of a Hitlerjugend publication quoting Darwin, with full name. You claim his books were banned. I asked for German primary sources and you could not provide that. Yet you continue with your rant as if nothing happened. Typical liberal psycho.

    5. KKK, Jim Crow laws, etc ALL democrats. Educate yourself fool.

  • Asemodeus

    Hitchens was quite the scholar, as your claim doesn’t negate his statements. You’re also ignoring how much in bed the Vatican was with fascism. I wonder why.

  • EuroDude707

    After I said hat I will give you a stand alone reply, you started to post like crazy, and it would be a total mess trying to unite everything in one reply. Especially since you lie most of the time and refuse to document your insane claims.

  • Sven2547

    1. I have read Mein Kampf in German.

    All the more embarrassing that you don’t know what it says.

    You claimed that the term socialism has changed, and when Hitler ranted on about socialism it was something completely different.

    And I explained, clearly, how they are different.

    3. Liar. I did not talk about German antisemitism, but the idea behind the superiority of the Aryan race.

    The proposition that the “Aryan race” is superior and that Jews are inferior is antisemitism, you dolt. You keep saying you read Mein Kampf, the foundation for Nazism. Please cite where Darwin is ever mentioned in that book. Anywhere.

    You claim his books were banned. I asked for German primary sources and you could not provide that.

    The 1935 Nazi Library Journal is a German primary source. The fact that it was quoted on an American website doesn’t somehow make it invalid. You’re being ridiculous.

    5. KKK, Jim Crow laws, etc ALL democrats. Educate yourself fool.

    Southern conservative Democrats who left en mass when the Democrats adopted civil rights at the national level around 1967-1970. Nixon happily assimilated the disaffected white conservative Christian segregationist vote into the Republican Party in his (very well documented) 1970 “southern strategy”. They are, and always have been, very anti-leftist. Heck, your whining about European Muslims is cribbed straight from the Breivik manifesto and Stormfront.

  • EuroDude707

    A “scholar” writing books without footnotes? Are you serious?

    I just proved you one of his big fat lies.

    I have debunked the crazy notion that the Vatican was in bed with fascism in other replies. But OK, explain this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/piusdef.html

  • Asemodeus

    Read up on the Lateran Accords. In exchange for vatican city being independent Mussolini got church support for his fascist government. That’s being in bed with fascism.

    Hitchens was a serious scholar, which is why he was willing to go into North Korea to write and lecture about his experiences. He called that state very theocratic.

  • EuroDude707

    This is from German Wiki

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_verbotener_Autoren_w%C3%A4hrend_der_Zeit_des_Nationalsozialismus

    Your claim is utter rubbish. Again you filthy liberals, together with your crazy pseudo-academics at the universities, lie through your teeth to save your ugly and dysfunctional atheism and liberalism.

    Moronic.

  • EuroDude707

    Indigenous Swedes will be a minority in 2040:

    https://affes.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/folkutbytet-accelererar/

    I can explain to you how and why government officials lie about immigration statistics in Norway, and I am very sure that they do the exact same thing in Sweden.

    But you are anyway a anti-white hater and racist as you have openly stated that only Nazis and fascists worry about Swedes becoming a minority within, what you claimed, 100 years

  • EuroDude707

    Provide academic documentation for your claims.

    Yeah, right. The official atheistic state North Korea “very theocratic”. No true Scotsman fallacy.

  • Asemodeus

    States like North Korea replace standard religion with a state religion. Where their leaders are elevated to godhood, complete with miracles, virgin births, and prophecy. It’s extremely theocratic, as the populace are props for this state religion. A good example of this is how Kim Jong-Un isn’t actually the leader of the country, his grandfather is.

    Read up on the Lateran Accords. Any document you read will tell you that the Vatican allowed themselves to be incorporated by fascist Italy.

  • EuroDude707

    You are unintelligent and lie through your teeth. You don’t document your claims, and even when I number my questions and points, you just ignore them.

    I will not waste much more time on you.

    I will just expose one more of your retarded lies

    lol please. On The Origin of Species was one of the books banned by the Third Reich, in stark contrast to The Bible.

    I gave you German wiki that clearly showed that Darwin and Origin of Species were not banned.

    You, the idiot, use a quote from banned categories. With your limited IQ you failed to notice that it said PRMITIVE Darwinismus. In Nazi German jargon, that is all scientific papers/books that debunk that Jews are Untermenschen You atheist idiots of course believed that the master idiot himself Darwin, was banned.

    Lying atheist retards.

  • EuroDude707

    Yeah, nice “google it” documentation.

    Fact is that you atheists have a void in your life, when you kick out God, so you always end up worshiping man. Stalin, Mao, thunderf00t, Dawkins, you name it.

  • EuroDude707

    Same claim was made by Fox News and Hannity.

    You, the liberal moron, claimed that Obama was the most vetted president ever and never a Muslim.

    That you have never heard about the documentation regarding his Muslim upbringing and verification of his Muslim faith only leaves a few options open.

    1. Main stream media has hidden his Muslim faith. If this is so, then your most vetted president ever is just one big joke. One more insane claim from you liberals.

    2. Both Daniel Pipes and Fox are lying. If this is so, you will find vile and hysterical reports all over the place from CNN; BBC, MSNBC etc.

    3. You natural reaction was just to smear Daniel Pipe. You provided no reason for you smear and slime. This is how you filthy people operate. If it something you don’t like, facts that crash your retarded world-view, then you just start smearing and vile mud slinging. Racist, fascist, Breivik etc. You have done it all the time. This is extra pathetic as the most immoral, disgusting group in the West is by far you godhating socialists. Pure immoral filth, most of you. Not all.

  • EuroDude707

    I gave it to you, but you have not replied.

    You however, could not substantiate your garbage. You gave only one source, and old one, and only a secondary source without informing about the primary source. So we have no idea who is “Muslim”, how the data were collected etc.

    This is how you pseudo-academic liberals operate. You have zero higher level education, right?

  • Asemodeus

    Look up the Lateran Accords. Also, people whom worship irrational beings, wherever they be real or imagined, are theists. You should also try to understand how religion works.

  • EuroDude707

    YOU rant on about Lateran Accords and make claims, YOU provide documentation for your claims.

    No, theists believe in ONE personal God. Deists one universal God, Pagans many.

    Your claim that “Also, people whom worship irrational beings, wherever they be real or imagined, are theists” is just ridiculous.

  • EuroDude707

    Show me where in the Lateran Accords that the Vatican should support fascism.

    Show me where it express in details HOW supposedly the Vatican should support fascism.

    And DO NOT give me retarded atheist sites. You lie through your teeth like crazy. You are even worse than the Muslims.

    Give me academic sources.

  • Asemodeus

    Mussolini declared catholicism to be the official state religion after the accords. How could he do that without vatican support?

    Where have I lied? Be specific.

    http://www.npr.org/2014/01/27/265794658/pope-and-mussolini-tells-the-secret-history-of-fascism-and-the-church

    You can also save me some time by pointing out which historical sources you trust, that way when I cite them to refute you there is no backsies.

  • Asemodeus

    There is more to theism than monotheism. Seriously, how uneducated are you?

  • EuroDude707

    I said PERSONAL God you idiot. I clearly answered you own question ranting about more than theism.

    YOU on the other hand, is clearly an uneducated nutcase claiming that doing the typical ass-kissing of human beings, as you atheists do all the time, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, thunderf00t, Dawkins, suddenly turn your all into “theists”.

    And yes, I am clearly far more educated than you atheists retards.

  • Asemodeus

    There is more to theism than monotheism. Get your head out of your butt.

  • EuroDude707

    How could the Vatican stop Mussolini in making Catholicism the official state religion?

    I did not say that you specific lied, but that you atheists in general are pathological liars and can not be trusted with all the garbage and fabrications you have on your atheists internet sites.

    Academic sources should be obvious for anyone.

    The book you link to is a total joke. See my comments to your fellow fanatic atheist and his false claims about the so-called “anti-Semitic” pope.

  • EuroDude707

    Atheist moron. Difference between theism and monotheism, is that theism has a PERSONAL God.

    Educate yourself, atheist fool.

  • Asemodeus

    The same way they disagreed with previous italian governments, by excommunicating them and declaring his government illigitimate.

    So you lied when you said I lied, and yet you claim that I’m the pathological liar. That’s some adorable cognitive dissonance at play.

    How you still refuse to give me historical sources to cite for you is a classic fear based response. You just want to blanket discredit anything I source because you know I’m right but are too cowardly to admit it.

    Adorable.

    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/modern-world-history-1918-to-1980/italy-1900-to-1939/mussolini-and-the-roman-catholic-church/

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/05/how-the-catholic-church-got-in-bed-with-mussolini.html

    https://books.google.com/books?id=221W9vKkWrcC&pg=PT29&lpg=PT29&dq=mussolini+catholicism+office+state+religion&source=bl&ots=YI5_r77tbQ&sig=a_Q8PP6AI9CXv–RI_vc017_ow4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDgQ6AEwB2oVChMIp7Ovx7jUxwIVUiqICh0YhQ32#v=onepage&q=mussolini%20catholicism%20office%20state%20religion&f=false

  • Asemodeus

    There is more to theism than monotheism. I wonder how often this will be repeated until you understand basic theology.

  • EuroDude707

    theism
    /ˈθiːɪzəm/
    noun
    1.
    the form of the belief in one God as the transcendent creator and rulerof the universe that does not necessarily entail further belief in divinerevelation Compare deism

    Collins English Dictionary – Complete & Unabridged 2012 Digital Edition

  • EuroDude707

    I have NO idea what you are rambling about.

    I asked you to prove your point, if you had any, regarding the Lateran Accords, that YOU, not me, mentioned .

    You told me to google it. You gave me just a book, without presenting your argument. No reference from the book. No claim, just some vague rant that the Pope was a fascist. Pathetic .

    I asked you specifically HOW the Vatican supposedly should support the Fascists and WHERE I could find this.

    You gave me nothing. I have no idea what your links are supposed to mean.

  • Asemodeus

    Theism involves more than just monotheism. Are you sure you’re literate?

  • Asemodeus

    4 different sources, all saying the same thing, that the Vatican cooperated with fascist Italy. At this point I am honor bound to question your literacy. That or you don’t know how html links work.

    Click on the blue thing! The blue thingy!

  • EuroDude707

    What sources and what kind of cooperation.

    Accusations are not facts. Moron.

    Present your claim with facts. Provide academic sources. All I have seen up until now has been unsubstantiated slander and blurry accusations.

  • EuroDude707

    I use the classical philosophical definition, the one before you atheist morons started to doctor the definitions, so you did not look quite as retarded as before. Weak atheism, strong atheism and all this rubbish.

  • Sven2547

    I gave it to you, but you have not replied.

    Where? Link please.

    You however, could not substantiate your garbage.

    You’ve been given multiple sources. You have dismissed them out-of-hand baselessly. You have not substantiated your counterclaim that the roughly 5% figure is wrong.

    This is how the far-right operates: all bluster and no substance. Don’t like facts? Disregard them outright.

  • EuroDude707

    You gave old data from 2009.

    The data were not primary sources, so no one can tell how they collected the data, who did it, what were the criteria and definition of Muslim.

    But of course, if I don’t accept the trash and junk science form you hysterical liberals, I am right-wing and against science.

    This is how you pseudo-scientific liberals psychos operate.

    Do you have any academic education at all. Outside quasi-academic fields like gender studies etc.?

  • Sven2547

    Strike three.

    I have provided sources.
    You have not.

    How much do you think the Muslim population in Sweden could possibly have grown in Sweden since 2009? Oh wait, you won’t say, because you’re all hot air and no substance.

  • EuroDude707

    Read my comments, liberal fool, and you will find the link

    That you did not care to do it, despite me telling you that the link were given, did of course not stop a liberal trash talking liar like to rant on about.

    . You have not substantiated your counterclaim that the roughly 5% figure is wrong.

    This is how the far-right operates: all bluster and no substance. Don’t like facts? Disregard them outright.

    Disgusting and deceitful, but fully expected.

  • EuroDude707

    I have provided sources and you are a liar.

    You claim that my only argument was only old data, -it was not. You pathetic liberal are lying through your teeth in every comment. This is how you are and this is how you operate and that is why atheists are trusted as much as rapists. Even atheists distrust fellow atheists less than Christians.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-12-10/religion-atheism/51777612/1

    So I am not at all surprised by your deceitful and utterly dishonest “argumentation”.

  • Sven2547

    I have provided sources and you are a liar.

    WHERE? PROVIDE THE LINK!

    In your reply to this very comment, link the source. I dare you. I double-dare you.

    You claim that my only argument was only old data, -it was not.

    Your other gripe was that it was American, which is completely irrelevant.

    You pathetic liberal are lying through your teeth in every comment. This is how you are and this is how you operate and that is why atheists are trusted as much as rapists. Even atheists distrust fellow atheists less than Christians.

    So I am not at all surprised by your deceitful and utterly dishonest “argumentation”.

    The fact that the vast majority of your comment is a string of insults really says a lot more about you than it does about me.

  • EuroDude707

    No it does not, you lie and deceive in every comment you make.

    Only in this comment and the other one you have stated as fact that I never gave you a link. And then you ranted on a stream of ad hominems based on your own lie presented as fact:

    Here is the comment douchebag, and notice the age of it.

    EuroDude707 Sven2547 • 16 hours ago

    Indigenous Swedes will be a minority in 2040:

    https://affes.wordpress.com/20

    I can explain to you how and why government officials lie about immigration statistics in Norway, and I am very sure that they do the exact same thing in Sweden.

    But you are anyway a anti-white hater and racist as you have openly stated that only Nazis and fascists worry about Swedes becoming a minority within, what you claimed, 100 years

    If the link in the copy does not work, here is it:

    Swedes a minority in 2040

    https://affes.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/folkutbytet-accelererar/

  • Sven2547

    I note that the bar graph is not just Muslims, but rather all “people of foreign origin”, regardless or religion or ethnicity. So no, you have not supported your counterclaim at all (that the Swedisn Muslim population is more than what I originally said, “roughly 5%”), and you apparently don’t know how statistics work.

    Here is the comment douchebag, and notice the age of it.

    How about a link to the comment itself (if you can figure out how), since all you had to do was type “16 hours ago” in the blockquote. I can’t go back and look through your comment history because it is private.

  • EuroDude707

    You presented a lie as a fact. Numerous times and hurled insults over me, based on that lie.
    So what do you do when your lie was exposed and documented? Asked forgivness? Oh, no, as a true hate-filled liberal psycho and intolerant psycho, you just contined to hurl insults in a vile rant about how I documented it, as if your solution were any better, and that I have my history private, as if you don’t get notifications when I answer you.
    This is the pathological level you fanatic and trashy atheist liberals operate on.
    The vast majority of immigrants in Sweden are Muslims. Swedes will be a minority in their own country in 2040, based on immigration stats the last 14 years. Now it is even worse, since due to Syria and a truly wild immigration. Yet you the liberal psycho, ranted on that only racists and Nazis would even consider immigration to Sweden an issue.
    And clearly your 5% number is a total joke. You are using secondary sources where collection method and definisitons are not give, not even who collected the data.
    This is the kind of Mickey Mouse sience one get from you low-IQ fanatic multiculturalists and atheist socialists. Pathetic and sad.

  • Sven2547

    It’s not a lie, dude. You haven’t refuted anything. The latest statistical information is that the Muslim population of Sweden is roughly 5%. Grow up and deal with it. The one link you (eventually) posted was a bar graph showing all non-Swedish immigrants.

    But even beyond your inept argumentation is your never-ending string of insults and abusive language. What are you, 15?

    You have contributed absolutely nothing of substance this entire time, only griping about the horrors of immigration, punctuating every sentence with “liberal psycho liberal psycho” as if that is a valid substitute for sound argumentation.

    There is nothing to be gained from further dialogue with a blowhard like you. Adieu.

  • EuroDude707

    lol. You the lying idiot even lie about your lies.

    You said I did not give you any LINK and then started your usual childish ad hominem attacks based on that.

    Then, when your lie was exposed with documentation, you start to rant that I did not supposedly debunk your claim. Douchebag. Your false claim was THE LINK and not REFUTATION.

    Only pathological liars lie about their own lies. You do it as second nature.

    Your Mickey Mouse data is pure junk science. I gave you data but can continue to do so. But you just run away. As you liberal psychos always do. You can’t back up your delusional world view with facts and logic. All you have is lies and smear, as you proved so well.

    Adieu.

  • EuroDude707

    You are a Pathological liar and a Moron

    Here is the comment douchebag, and notice the age of it.

    EuroDude707 Sven2547 • 16 hours ago

    Indigenous Swedes will be a minority in 2040:

    https://affes.wordpress.com/20

    I can explain to you how and why government officials lie about immigration statistics in Norway, and I am very sure that they do the exact same thing in Sweden.

    But you are anyway a anti-white hater and racist as you have openly stated that only Nazis and fascists worry about Swedes becoming a minority within, what you claimed, 100 years

    If the link in the copy does not work, here is it:

    Swedes a minority in 2040

    https://affes.wordpress.com/2015/03/28/folkutbytet-accelererar/

  • Sven2547

    Here is the comment douchebag, and notice the age of it.

    Typing things in a blockquote proves nothing. Link the comment itself if you really want to prove that you made this comment 16 hours ago somewhere.

  • EuroDude707

    No problem, douchebag, tell me how I do it, and you shall have it.

  • Sven2547

    douchebag

    Seriously, what the heck is the matter with you?

    Click on the timestamp (i.e. where it says “16 hours ago”). It should highlight the comment with a gold bar next to your portrait. Your browser url should now be a link directly to that comment.

    Why would you even post it as a “stand-alone” comment, anyway, other than to hide it from me? I get reply notifications. Use the “reply” button next time.

  • EuroDude707

    All I ever got from you was lies, junk science, fabrications and smear. You cut my comments and leave out qualifiers, thus misrepresenting my statements. I number my questions to you, and you just ignore most of them, as they would have exposed you. Clearly you are a lying douchebag.

    Here is the latest exposure of your lies:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/frenchrevolution/2015/08/27/dear-media-donald-trump-does-not-care-about-your-bible-gotcha-questions/#comment-2228631941

  • EuroDude707

    I told you, after I said I would give you a stand-alone reply to aggregate all your trash, you started to post like crazy, and I told you in a comment that it with all the new comments it would be just a mess, so I ditched the idea. Now you are trying a new excuse to hide your lies. Nice.

  • Sven2547

    Just a continuous smokescreen of outrage from you, trying to hide your shame about being completely wrong about the Muslim population of Sweden.

  • EuroDude707

    You are completely delusional. As the link shows you, Swedes will be a minority in their own country in 2040. The vast majority of the immigrants are Muslims.

    You presented Mickey Mouse “science” where Muslims are only 5%, and you called everyone just believing Muslim immigration to Sweden an issue, not even a problem – just an issue, were all Nazis and racists. So much for you liberal atheist apes loving “reason”, “inquiry” and “debates”.

    I also said I could give you more source. Just state what is wrong, and I will again expose you as an anti-white intolerant and close-minded liberal racist.

    Go ahead.

  • Sven2547

    I presented the latest statistical data about the number of Muslims in Sweden, and you baselessly brushed it aside as “mickey mouse science”.

    You responded with a link tallying all non-Swedish immigrants to Sweden, and claimed (without support) that the vast majority of those were Muslims.

    I will again expose you as an anti-white intolerant and close-minded liberal racist.

    You’re the one making a fuss about race, not me.

  • EuroDude707

    Gee, you are lying through your teeth AGAIN liberal. I told you it is pathological

    I presented the latest statistical data about the number of Muslims in Sweden,

    Tell me how you know, that a statistic from 2009 ist the very latest statistical data. Again you lie.

    and you baselessly brushed it aside as “mickey mouse science”.

    Again, and again, you lie. I explained to you very clearly why your data was a joke. This is what I said and only a liar would call my dismissal of your data for baseless:

    You gave old data from 2009.

    The data were not primary sources, so no one can tell how they collected the data, who did it, what were the criteria and definition of Muslim.

    But of course, if I don’t accept the trash and junk science form you hysterical liberals, I am right-wing and against science.

    When you back up your 5% with old data, and there has been a massive influx of Muslim immigrants after that, then is it very clear that you are lying. And to top it, all you got was Mickey Mouse science.
    YOU made a claim YOU present your documentation for your claim. Finding the true numbers for Muslim immigrants in Sweden is not easy, as the atheist/socialist overlords do what they can to hide the real numbers. However, I know the statistical tricks they operate with in Norway, and I am sure they do the same one in Sweden. So I am waiting for you Swedish primary sources, that supposedly will back up your insane only 5% Muslims in Sweden claim, and I will debunk both you and Sweden’s official numbers.
    Go ahead.

  • Sven2547

    Finding the true numbers for Muslim immigrants in Sweden is not easy, as the atheist/socialist overlords do what they can to hide the real numbers.

    Wow. You’ve added a conspiracy theory on top of your outright denial of statistics.

    Educate thyself.

  • EuroDude707

    Third generation immigrants are statistically 100% Norwegian. Using that methodology nearly every white American with European background is statistically speaking a 100% native American, and there has been no significant shift in the demographic composition in America after Columbus.

    When asked why the SBB, Norway’s statistical bureau used this method, and why it was kept secret for the Norwegian population, they said that they did not want to fuel racism and give “ammunition” to anti-immigration sentiments in the population.

    But of course, for an anti-white liberal racist like you, living in America, you just KNOW that any kind of questions regarding bias from our socialist overlords in Norway is purely a conspiracy. Consequently, in your insane world of liberal delusions, everything, including facts, are a conspiracy and undoubtedly “racist” as well. Sick and evil. Typical atheist liberal.

  • Sven2547

    Dear EuroDude:

    I am not an anti-white racist. This may shock you, but I am, in fact, a white American with a lot of Scandinavian ancestry.
    I do not, and never have, advocate the abridgment of the rights and liberties of white people. Every time you call me an anti-white racist, you are lying for no apparent reason other than being nasty for the sake of nastiness.

  • EuroDude707

    Just as you had Jews supporting and helping the Nazis, you have white anti-white racists like you.

    You said that a Swedish minority in their own country was not even an issue, and only a racist and Nazi would think so.

    I challenged you to find a single comment from you, where the races were reversed, and you had the same disdain for people worried about the culture, country and heritage. Like the natives reaction on white Europeans in America or natives during colonialism. You have of course not replied, because as a true liberal, you would go totally crazy if whites took over an African or Asian country, but Muslim Arabs, Pakistanis and North-Africans can do it in Scandinavia without any problem.

    You are a true racist and liberal hater. A true KZ Kapo.

  • Zeke

    Dear Sven,

    I know you are an anti-white liberal racist because you fail to sufficiently rant about Muslim immigration, or advocate a wall around America like my boy Trump.
    PS – brown people are bad.
    PSS – I secretly admire Americans for killing lots of brown people.
    PSSS – Jesus wasn’t brown.

    Yours in Christ,
    Eurodouche707

  • Beachbumpkin

    Oh yes, I forgot about Hillary and the socialist side kick. They would do a much better job running this country!