Through the years here we’re seen a variety of men and women say that if you are a believer married to an unbeliever you are to win them without a word. Smile and submit. Submit until he comes to the Lord. World without end. Today pastor John Piper of Desiring God says exactly the same thing before ending at a rather strange set of exceptions. None of which are things most normal folks minds go right to. Win him without a word right up until he asks for group sex? I swear, everyone in Evangelical Quiverfull has much dirtier minds than the average Joe!

First part, standard boilerplate Christianese about winning without a word by total submission:

Piper misses that what most people say about that scripture, that it means to smile and submit in all things until your man is convicted enough to accept Christ.

Then Piper warns you not to nag. Don’t nag him to glory.

I don’t even know what to say here, begging him and assuring him that he’s not second after God? How about about leaving him alone about his beliefs or lack of beliefs?

One thing I do know is that marriage in evangelical quiverfull circles sounds all types of bad, stressful and weird. No one really genuinely discusses legitimate problems, it’s all this carefully tiptoeing around land mines and conversations like this, that should just be a given. I would never assume if my partner loves a deity that he loves me less.

Piper spends a lot of paragraphs talking about Jesus and his words before we end up here, the strangest of left turns you could imagine. Sex yet again:

How do you issue a submissive no? Notice that while Piper is mentioning ‘wacko elders’ he’s not saying ‘wacko pastors’

Everything, and I mean everything, in this world eventually leads back to sex with these people. Talking with someone on the issues of a different faith couple should not automatically lead there!

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