Archbishop Coakley: Satanists have Returned Consecrated Host

Archbishop Coakley: Satanists have Returned Consecrated Host August 21, 2014

bishop-formal.pngArchbishop Paul Coakley announced today that the consecrated host at the center of the Archdiocese’ lawsuit against a satanic group has been returned.

This happened as a result of a court order issued in response to a lawsuit brought by the Archbishop against the group. The Archbishop filed suit after leaders of the group made a number of comments claiming that they had obtained a consecrated host and planned to defile and desecrate it in a satanic ritual.

Archbishop Coakley expressed continued concern about the “dark powers that satanic worship invites into our community and the spiritual danger that this poses to all involved in it, directly or indirectly.” 

For that reason, he will lead a Eucharistic Holy Hour at 3 pm, September 21 at St Francis of Assisi Church, 1901 NW 18 in Oklahoma City at the same time as the black mass is scheduled to occur. 

Here is Archbishop Coakley’s press release:

OKLAHOMA CITY (Aug. 21, 2014) – Archbishop Coakley announced Thursday that the consecrated Host at the center of a lawsuit filed in Oklahoma County District Court has been returned.

An attorney representing the head of the satanic group presented the Host to a Catholic priest Thursday afternoon. The lawsuit sought return of the Host following multiple public statements by the head of the local satanic group that they planned to defile and desecrate the consecrated Host during a satanic ‘black mass’ scheduled next month in Oklahoma City.

With the return of the Host and an accompanying signed statement from the satanic group leader that the group no longer possesses a consecrated Host, nor will they use a consecrated Host in their rituals, the archbishop agreed to dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice.

“I am relieved that we have been able to secure the return of the sacred Host, and that we have prevented its desecration as part of a planned satanic ritual,” said Archbishop Paul Coakley of the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City. “I remain concerned about the dark powers that this satanic worship invites into our community and the spiritual danger that this poses to all who are involved in it, directly or indirectly.”

Archbishop Coakley has made repeated requests for the city’s leaders to cancel the satanic ritual in a publicly funded facility.

“I have raised my concerns … and pointed out how deeply offensive this proposed sacrilegious act is to Christians and especially to the more than 250,000 Catholics who live in Oklahoma.”

On Sept. 21, the day the satanic ritual has been scheduled, the archbishop invites the Catholic community as well as all Christians and people of good will to join him in prayer for a Eucharistic Holy Hour at 3 p.m. at St. Francis of Assisi Church, 1901 NW 18, followed by an outdoor Procession and Benediction.

“For more than 1 billion Catholics worldwide, the Mass is the most sacred of religious rituals,” the archbishop said. “It is the center of Catholic worship and celebrates Jesus Christ’s redemption of the world by his death and resurrection. We are grateful for the gift of the Eucharist and pray that this threatened sacrilege will heighten our appreciation and deepen our faith in the Lord’s Eucharistic presence among us.”

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60 responses to “Archbishop Coakley: Satanists have Returned Consecrated Host”

  1. I’m glad the Host was returned. I am appalled however at the rationale used in the lawsuit which equates it with being the property of the Church. Can anyone own a Person, let alone Jesus? Is a fetus the property of it’s mother because ever since Eve a mother has ‘dominion and control’ for 9 months?

    This will come back to haunt us. I’m appalled. Jesus doesn’t need our protection however much we owe him our worship.

    • Hi. I don’t understand some of what you’re saying but you’re right, Jesus in His fullness, LORD Eternal doesn’t need our protection. But He does when we see Him, especially in the “least”, and choose to act. Great care is required in handling Him in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. He is always “Substantially Present” under the appearance. For a better explanation please see http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/intro/pres_sac.htm

      God bless!

      • We are required to treat the Host with reverence at all times and to take precautions against theft and abuse very seriously. Once the Host is out of the Church’s control I don’t believe we are obligated to file lawsuits which distort the truth in an attempt to protect our Lord.

    • It is a good reflection on your faith that you immediately think of the Host as the Person it is!

      While I can identify with your concerns, I believe that taking this step was necessary and proper. To start with your last point, I believe that in giving us Himself in the Eucharist, Jesus has placed His Body under our custody. We recognize this with objects such as the tabernacle and its light as well as gestures including kneeling when the Blessed Sacrament is exposed and genuflecting to the tabernacle otherwise. Consequently it is our duty to do whatever we can to maintain the Sacred Species in reverence and safety.

      Since the Host was recovered under property law, for legal purposes it was treated as a thing, not a Person. I believe this was much more likely to succeed than if its recovery were to be sought as a Person, in which case I suppose the Host would be considered abducted and the perpetrator could be charged with kidnapping. I’m not a lawyer, so I don’t know if a Consecrated Host has ever been treated legally as a Person before (particularly in the United States), but it seems highly unlikely. Without such a precedent, I believe it likely that an action to return the missing Person, besides inciting a torrent of ridicule, would have been rapidly dismissed. Therefore the satanic ritual would have proceeded unhindered, and a far worse precedent would have become not just a possibility but an historical event which undoubtedly would be duplicated.

      On the other hand, I believe that that it would be very difficult to use this case as a precedent for treating a preborn baby as a thing the mother can dispose of at will, and in any event this would be a remote, rather than present risk. Therefore it seems reasonable to me to use this means to secure possession of the Sacred Host and by doing so prevent the satanic event from occurring. Just the potential for the curious to wander in and get sucked into that evil is a menace we do well to avoid; souls are at risk here.

      A few years ago there was a controversy when a Host consecrated by Pope St John Paul II was put up for auction on eBay. Marcellino D’Ambrosio raised this issue on Catholic Answers and in response I wrote an email to their president. In it I pointed out that under the rules and rubrics of the Catholic Church, the sole and final authority on this point, the Host is to be consumed immediately upon reception. Since the pertinent rule was violated, there was no legal way the seller could have good title to the goods he was offering, with the result that her company would thereby be complicit in receiving and disposing of stolen property, to say nothing of offending 60 million American Catholics.

      Whether or not my feeble attempt at reason played any part I’ll never know, but in the event the Host was secured and properly disposed of. Here I was not appealing to property law per se, but rather to the indisputable fact that no one may rightfully possess a Consecrated Host other than as permitted by the Church in fulfillment of her ministry.

      I do not know whether this point was raised in the present case, but I think under this analysis using property law to recover a Sacred Host does not entail making the blasphemous statement that it is just a thing, and not the Person it truly is. Therefore since it is demonstrably effective, it can be safely and properly used in this context.

      God Bless!

    • Whoever calls themselves the disciples of Our Lord Jesus Christ should consider themselves duty-bound to defend the Name of Jesus and His honor.
      No, Jesus doesn’t NEED anything from us. It is WE who need to draw close to Him, to spread His holy word to others who need him as we do, and to speak in defense of His holiness and goodness, even though it cost us everything we have in this world. Hence, the calendar of the saints who wear the eternally glorious crown of martyrdom, bestowed to those who have bled and died to defend the honor of Our Lord. Surely you don’t mean to suggest that they gave all they had for nothing, do you?

    • there’s no way of telling. There was no proof that they had obtained a consecrated host; no proof that they handed in the host they said they had and there’s no lab test that can discern a concentrated host from a non-consecrated host.

      It’s all a matter of faith, like transubstantiation itself.

        • I see Rececca’s posts announced on a private site for Patheos writers. I was interested in knowing the details of the lawsuit from the bishop. Catholics were interested in it too, and at least one person here expressed the same opinion I would have expressed.

          By the way, I am a former Catholic with fond memories of Mass. I had a lovely Catholic upbringing in a loving and large extended Italian-Catholic family and gradually moved away from the church as an adult, before any of the current controversies became known. If you’ want to know more about my “agenda” read here: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/clergyproject/2014/07/why-study-non-believing-clergy/

      • I would hope that most atheists would find this sort of display offensive. I have good friends who are atheists, and we can debate the existence/non-existense of God without being jerks.

        • Margaret, this was once entirely true. But leaders in the so-called new atheism have and continue to actively encourage their followers to be jerks. Their followers — who no matter their age, seem to be characterized by an adolescent mentality — appear to be all-too-willing to follow suit.

          I said in another comment that I personally knew atheists who did not insult Christians. But the full truth is that these same people have become increasingly aggressive and hateful, even in personal relationships of many decades where faith has never been an issue before.

          I’ve also had the experience — not in Oklahoma, but in California — of standing in a check-out line in a store, talking to a friend and having an atheist we didn’t know who was standing behind us in line butt into our conversation in order to unload his opinion about Christians. Since I spend very little time in California, I am guessing that I was either terribly unlucky or this is the climate in that community.

          I’ve seen that same paradigm acted out on this blog, almost from the day I launched it. Atheist boors buzz bomb it constantly, dropping off non sequitur insults and repetitive arguments. They then demand that I allow their nonsense on here. I’ve even had other bloggers demand that I allow atheists to essentially take over the blog.

          I didn’t start this blog to be a forum for atheism. That is not its purpose. Fortunately, I can deep-six that tripe and keep the blog focused in the direction it was meant to go. I allow a certain amount of conversation and debate from atheists. But the buzz-bombing take-overs aren’t going to happen. After 18 years in political office, I’m inured to bullies, boors and jerks.

          Leadership means everything, and the new atheism has a sicko leadership which is bent on creating uncivil relations between atheism and the rest of the world as a means of recruiting the weak-minded to their column. It’s working for them, just as demagoguery always works. They are making a lot of money and they’ve got a growing troupe of cult-like followers. But the cost to community, civility, tolerance and true freedom is enormous.

          If atheists want to be taken for something other than boors, they need to abandon their aggressive behavior toward other people. The should probably begin with finding better leaders.

          • God bless you, Rebecca. I am going to hold out hope for love. I know that you are experiencing the hatred and aggressive behavior. I have experienced it myself, and I generally refuse to engage with people who use these tactics. Best of luck with your wonderful blog.

          • People are people. No matter what the group or label, there will be jerks. Read some of the email sent to atheist bloggers and organizations by those who claim to be christian.

            But most people, regardless of label, are decent and kind.

      • The interesting thing about you “Science is God” types is that you constantly devalue your god by noting their “is no scientific evidence therefore X, Y or Z” cannot possibly be true”.
        That is, about 150 years ago, there was no “scientific proof” that bacteria existed. Instead, your “god” would have us all sticking a leech on some kid who was suffering from strep throat, because, after all, some nitwit had submitted some proof, and a bunch of other nitwits had accepted the proof, that bleeding people cured them of their “ague” or some other nearly medieval “scientific” mumbo-jumbo.

        Even given centuries of historical examples of this truly hilarious nonsense, your particular brand of zealotry continues to sell to the extremely stupid mass media, and slightly less stupid “Social study” types currently infecting academia.
        At least have the good manners to acknowledge the limits of your particular religion (since the limits of your particular religion are well documented) by having the courtesy of saying “Science can not prove X, Y, or Z…. yet”, rather than condemning your outlook to future farcical historical footnotes.

        Tell you what Science-zealot – I have conducted a clinical study that scientifically proves that, if you are an atheist attaching leeches to your neck makes you smarter, and there is a dose response – that is – the more you attach, the smarter you get. So the next time you feel like writing on a Catholic blog, kindly attach several leeches to your neck and wait a few hours. We will all be better off for your experience.

        • Jim, I don’t allow name-calling on this blog. There is no reason to insult Ms LaScola personally. Just focus on the issues.

          • Seems to me that Jim’s comment is the type that would not make it though your moderation process if it were from an atheist. I appreciate it as an example of unacceptable name-calling and would appreciate it even more if you don’t publish this kind of thing the next time it happens.

            • I often let things through that are unacceptable when the person is new here. I also let atheists do all sorts of di-dohs.

              There are limits, but I set the limits. My blog. My rules.

              BTW, I have never come onto your blog or that of any atheist — or anyone else, for that matter — and admonished them on how to run it. Maybe you guys should take a lesson from that.

              • It was not an admonishment, it was a request. I understand that it’s your blog, your rules and I also request that you publish my response to “Oregon nurse.” She asked me a question and I respectfully answered it.

                • Linda, I’ve been pretty busy. I had to get my mother ready for adult day care, which meant (1) giving her a bath, (2) helping her dress, (3) getting her breakfast (4) making sure she had her cane/purse/keys, (5) and getting her out the door.

                  I also wrote a blog post.

                  I did all that between when I wrote that comment and now. I haven’t had time to look at whatever comment you are respectfully referring to.

                  After I go through these comments, I have one or two other things — including cleaning up the breakfast dishes and working on my other writing — I need to do before my mother gets home from adult day care.

                  I’ll look at your comment when I get to it.

        • The scientific method relies on evidence, self-correction and the ability to acknowledge that more information may be found.

          The Theory of Gravity is a theory – the best explanation currently available that considers all the data. While no one expects the Theory of Gravity of to be disproved, scientists are open to the idea that more may be learned, and are willing to correct current theories in the face of new knowledge.

          The Germ Theory of Disease, the Heliocentric Theory of the Solar System, Atomic Theory, the Theory of Plate Tectonics and ALL scientific theories are subject to this process. This is why scientific theories can be relied on to incorporate all current knowledge and to correct errors. No matter how fond scientists were of the idea that continents cannot move, the evidence from several scientific disciplines is overwhelming that the continents used to be joined and have moved.

    • The archbishop’s good actions are not degraded by the ill intent or acts of this group. I am sure God is well capable of following through on the archbishop’s intent to keep the host undefiled.

  2. This outcome is to be expected. The Satanists don’t want to get dragged into a lawcourt over this. Plus, I doubt they really had a consecrated host, but they *claimed* to have one, which added to the spectacle and the shock value of their stunt. But they couldn’t admit they had an unconsecrated host after saying they did, so they agreed to hand over the host. Now the Church will have to back down, or at least there will be pressure to back off. Meanwhile, the Satanists got some publicity and more or less maintained their credibility. I doubt the people who attend the Black MAss, should it actually go off as planned, will care much about the use of an unconsecrated host.

  3. I would expect no one can tell if the host is consecrated or not by looking at it, so if the group said it was—then who can dispute it? It was “returned”.

  4. ““I have raised my concerns … and pointed out how deeply offensive this proposed sacrilegious act is to Christians and especially to the more than 250,000 Catholics who live in Oklahoma.”” … and to our Lord.

  5. seems like receiving stolen goods through the mail would be a federal offense. like using the postal service for illegal use. Another angle

  6. I just saw on the “Friendly Atheist” that someone is proposing “donating” a consecrated host to the Satanists.
    I really think we have to start finding these people and knocking their teeth down their throats. Force is the only thing they respect.

    • The atheists blogs only have one editorial focus and that is dissing and attacking Christianity. Their readership is the kind of people who enjoy that one subject. Treat them the way you would a fly buzzing around your head, just brush them away. Focus on Christ, not them.

      • Appreciate it…. would the following be more acceptable?

        The desecration of the consecrated host for Catholics is tantamount to an attack on the flesh and blood of any of our loved ones, and requires a commensurate response. Would we allow our brother, our sister, our children to be dragged into a Black Mass and be subjected to whatever heinous rituals these people require to satisfy the evil in their soul? No we would not. We would respond with force. Loud, angry, physical force. And we would do it in such a way and with enough intensity to convince these people i is in their best interest to never even look at, much less touch, our beloved family members ever again.

        The truly bizarre and truly disgusting part of this is the professed belief of the Satanic Mass people in the miracle of transubstantiation. That is, a “prop” host will not do. They essentially believe, just as Catholics do, that the bread has become the Body. It gives further urgency to our very physical, and very forceful defense of our Lord. He was abandoned once. Surely the good Catholics of the United States will not abandon Him again?
        Thomas Aquinas writes of the Just War. The fact that these people seek to physically debase ou Lord, in public, on public property, and with public funds, leaves us only with the conclusion that we Catholics have been abandoned by our government.
        Catholics must rally and defend our Faith. Certainly no one else is going to do it for us.

        Too much? I don’t blame you if you don’t post it, but I would appreciate any comments back?

        • As an atheist, I agree with one of your points. I will fight hard against any disparagement of your religion on public property, with government funds, or by any use of government authority.

          However, I expect (and demand) the same courtesy toward my religious belief.

          Individuals, acting as individuals, are free to promote their beliefs and even to offend others. However, anyone acting with the authority of the government or using government property or resources MUST remain neutral toward religion. Our nation was founded on this principle and it works.

          Schools cannot promote protestant christianity and require catholic children to participate in protestant rituals, including clearly protestant prayers. Likewise, schools cannot promote christianity in general and require non-christian children to participate in christian rituals, including prayer.

          My first choice is no religious monuments or displays on government property. However, if a state government, perhaps Oklahoma, chooses to allow a monument telling people they must worship a specific god, the government must allow those with other beliefs about religion to erect monuments with alternative viewpoints.

          The government cannot select certain religious viewpoints approval and promotion. Nor can it select certain religious viewpoints for disapproval and second-class treatment.

            • Really? I have no beliefs about religion? I have not read the bible and considered its words? My decisions about how to live a moral life are unworthy of any acknowledgment or respect?

              I write a post where I defend equal treatment of all religious viewpoints. I said “I expect (and demand) the same courtesy toward my religious belief.” Your response was that I have no religious belief, communicating that I an not entitled even to courtesy.

              You complain frequently about disrespectful atheists. Yet I reply politely even to rudeness.

              I will continue to support freedom of all people to exercise their religious beliefs, even though I do not receive that respect from those who claim religious superiority. But the exercise of one person’s belief ends where the next person’s begins.

              • Opinions about religion and “moral beliefs” are not religion. You say you are an atheist. If that is true, then you have no religious beliefs.

                • We may be talking past each other.

                  I have beliefs about religion, which are protected by the Constitution of the United States just as your religious beliefs are protected. This was the context of my reply to Mr. Dailey. I hope we agree that the First Amendment protects all of us.

                  I absolutely agree with you that my beliefs are not a religion. I do not see any evidence to support a belief in the supernatural. On this point I’m confident we disagree 🙂

        • This is the exact sort of thinking that led to the murder of Jews throughout the middle ages due to accusations of “host desecration”. This is the exact sort of thinking that leads Muslims to become violent when people draw Muhammad.

          I also have to wonder how a mind can believe that a being can simultaneously be both the supreme creator of the universe, and a helpless victim capable of being legitimately harmed by a cracker being used in a way you don’t like. Is Jesus all-powerful beyond mortal comprehension and beyond our capacity to so much as scratch, or pathetically feeble and dependent on mortals for rescue?

          This sort of muddled, contradictory thinking is one of the reasons people are being driven away from religion.

    • Violence in the name of religion begets more violence, as is currently happening in many countries right now. Knocking their teeth down their throats wouldn’t solve anything nor would it stop what they want to do. That too is being proven right now in many counties. IMO this mass will be over with soon and forgotten. Who knows, maybe no one will show up as happened previously.

      • I agree. The man sponsoring it sounds like a creep and a nutcase. The only reason anyone heard of him is because of the publicity given to him by catholics.

        Look at the crusades, the inquisition, the conquistadors, etc. Violence in the name of the Prince of Peace has caused great harm but has never changed anyone’s beliefs.

    • I advise you to stay off the atheist blogs. They exist only to mock God and religion. If you post about your outrage there it just makes them happy and you will not change their minds. Don’t throw pearls before swine. Just ignore them – that’s the greatest insult you can level on people who worship their own mind.

      • No, atheist blogs do not exist to mock god and religion, at least not the ones I read. Atheist blogs exist as a place where people can talk about living as a non-theist in a world dominated by theists.

  7. I hope and pray it really is the sacred Host that was returned…but how can it be known for sure. On the surface, one Host looks like another…

  8. This theft of the consecrated Host and other incidents point to the need for our Church to return to receiving the host on the tongue only.

  9. How can they prove that it’s a truly Consecrated Host that was returned to them? How can they believe that these satanists are telling the truth? This event might be a farce – then later these satanists can do what they like with the real Consecrated Host. Satan is the Father of All Liars. Therefore, these satanists ARE LYING!!!

  10. I agree with Ellie Blue. We need to go back to the preferred practiced of reviving on the Tongue even if we have to stand. This was the way I received in April of 1970 on my First Confusion. It needs to be widely known that although the USCCB allows this is an insult. It is really an ABUSE that Pope Paul himself did not agree to and tried to stop in Europe. It was forced on American Catholics deceitfully by none other than Cardinal Bernadine. It was NEVER supposed to be disrupted in the US like this at all and most of the Catholics and clergy opposed it.

  11. It is more likely these ‘devil worshipers’ did not have a real one to begin with… consecrated hosts are handled in specific ways. Plus, they are supposed to be consumed in the presence of a priest or eucharistic minister.
    However, this group’s leader has now made a legal binding agreement with the archbishop. He cannot either use a consecrated host nor make claims of using one without legal repercussions. I am sure the authorities are watching this little cult already… Their ideology is openly based upon worship of evil.
    The way the archbishop handled this is in marked contrast to the violent way other religions have reacted to threatened desecration. A very classy guy, in my opinion.

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