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Making a mockery November 1, 2006

It seems that if you mock the president, he will pretend that you're actually mocking the troops, even though he knows you're not.

This latest Lack of Perspective Extravaganza tells us that:

1. John Kerry can't deliver a joke and George W. Bush can't understand one.

2. Bush is thin-skinned, petulant and disingenuous.

3. Bush is more interested in attacking his critics than he is in trying to find some less-than-eternally-disastrous solution for the Fiasco he has created in Iraq.

4. People claiming to be "journalists" act more like the panel of judges on Dancing With the Stars than like actual reporters. They're more interested in "scoring" any dispute, awarding style points for spin and for particularly bold doublespeak, than they are in sorting out the actual truth of anything and who is or isn't twisting that truth beyond recognition.

5. People claiming to be "journalists" will spend more time and attention examining the political effectiveness of Bush's baldly disingenuous claims to be offended on behalf of the "troops" than they ever will examining the many legitimate reasons those troops have to be offended on account of Bush.

All of which we already knew.

Partial list of people who understood, with perfect clarity, the intention, meaning and only plausible interpretation of Kerry's comment: George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Michael Graham, Joe Scarborough, Jeff Emanuel, Michelle Malkin.

Partial list of people who, knowing this, pretended something else was true: George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Karl Rove, Michael Graham, Joe Scarborough, Jeff Emanuel, Michelle Malkin.

They seem to delight in their indignation, even though they know it's baseless. But even baseless indignation can give you a little bit of a buzz. And I suppose, too, that if reality offers you nothing but cause for shame, then the temptation must be strong to flee to a fantasy world in which you can play the part of the indignant, aggrieved party, acting only out of noble concern for "the troops" — the same troops who, back in reality, you glibly sacrifice in order to feed vicariously off of their courage.

More than 100 dead soldiers this month in a pointless and indefensible fiasco and the leaders who sent them to their deaths, along with the captive press, have nothing better to do than to pretend that they're defending these soldiers' honor from insults that everyone involved in this charade knows perfectly well were directed elsewhere.

And but so, if mocking a disastrously incompetent president is now regarded as the same as mocking the troops, and we're therefore not allowed to mock the president, who can we mock?

People with crippling illnesses.

Here, via Crooks & Liars, is the video of Michael J. Fox being interviewed by George Stephanopoulos.*

Go back in time 20 years. It's Feb 4, 1986, and President Ronald Reagan is delivering the second State of the Union address of his second term. Reagan was still near the height of his popularity — the Teflon was still intact, it was still "morning in America," and the president took a section of his speech to share his brand of infectious optimism with "America's younger generation."

Reagan may not have written this, and it may look hokey on the page, but the man sold it in his delivery:

And tonight I want to speak directly to America's younger generation, because you hold the destiny of our nation in your hands. … Never has there been a more exciting time to be alive, a time of rousing wonder and heroic achievement. As they said in the film Back to the Future, "Where we're going, we don't need roads."

That soaring optimism was part of why Reagan was so successful politically. Watch that interview with Fox for a contemporary dose of that same soaring optimism — that celebration of the possibility and potentiality of America.

Back here in the future, Marty McFly still believes in that potentiality, but the heirs of Reagan's Republican majority do not. First they froze out Reagan's widow, Nancy, shutting out her pleas for funding to allow stem-cell research. And now they have turned on Marty himself, attacking Fox for advocating the same thing and mocking the painful effects of his medication. Neither Nancy Reagan nor Michael J. Fox is partisan, but the current crop of Republicans don't care about that. Any criticism, any advocacy of any alternative stance to whatever it is they advocate, is regarded by them as a partisan attack. And all attacks are met with the same response: character assassination.

So they mock the sick and disabled. And when that backfires — mocking a beloved and sympathetic figure, kicking him while he's down, turns out to not to be an effective vote-winning strategy — they latch onto whatever they can drum up for a distraction. John Kerry, yet again, conveniently provided something they could twist into such a distraction.

The guy who has to be kicking himself after witnessing this most recent amateur political theater is Mark Foley.

Caught red-handed sending lascivious e-mails to underage pages, Foley resigned and checked into rehab. Turns out all he needed to do was to put on his best approximation of indignation and demand — demand! — that his detractors apologize to "our brave men and women in uniform."

Had he done that, he'd still be in office and David Letterman would be off the air, fired in disgrace for insulting the troops with a bunch of jokes about the inappropriateness of IM-sex with teenagers.

Update: Josh Marshall provides an example of Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, really doing what he pretended John Kerry did.

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* That's an interesting pairing. Before getting his own show on ABC, Stephanopoulos was in politics, serving as a White House aide. Fox used to have his own show on ABC — winning an Emmy for Spin City — but left due to the effects of the illness that has now led him to get involved in politics. Fox's Spin City character was based on the character he played in the proto-West Wing film, The American President. And that character was largely based on George Stephanopoulos.


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45 responses to “Making a mockery”

  1. Great post! If Republican fought terrorists like they fight Democrats, Osama bin Laden wouldn’t still be on the loose.

  2. Oh, bulls**t! Tell me where in that so-called “joke” you see any reference to Bush??
    Kerry was giving a speech to college students and clearly, whether through intention or Freudian slip, made it known that only under-educated people join the military and then get shipped to Iraq!
    Back off the Kool-Aid

  3. Hm. Kerry was talking about someone who didn’t study or do his homework and is about as sharp as a cue ball. Sounds like Bush coming and going to me. But of course a former soldier like Kerry was obviously insulting troops fighting an illegal and immoral war, rather than making a cutting remark at their incompetent, cowardly leader. How silly of the rest of us to think otherwise, or to think the Rethugs will try to use this one to draw attention away from the Foley scandal lest the Values Voters finally realize they’ve been lied to and mocked by power-hungry idolators of the Blessed Greenback.
    Back off your own damn Kool-Aid.

  4. TrekMedic251:
    Tell me where in that so-called “joke” you see any reference to Bush??
    Kerry told the students that those unable to navigate the country’s education system would “get stuck in Iraq.”
    A Kerry spokeswoman, Amy Brundage, said Kerry’s prepared text had called for him to say: “Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.”
    Are you staying the course, or denying that you’re staying the course?

  5. Fred, you forgot Tony Snow. Days like these last couple days make me wish I’d never put a television in my office at work.

  6. if reality offers you nothing but cause for shame, then the temptation must be strong to flee to a fantasy world in which you can play the part of the indignant, aggrieved party, acting only out of noble concern for “the troops”
    The problem is this. Which world is the media reporting the news from? The fantasy world? Or the real world?
    Pointing out, as you do, that what Bush et al. are doing right now is simple dishonesty is entirely true, but misses the point. The point is, what they’re doing works.
    Dishonesty works.
    Until that changes, the truth doesn’t matter. All that matters is how they can sell this to the news. And right now, the news has bought their fantasy 100%, regardless of what John Kerry said, what John Kerry meant, how many times John Kerry apologizes, or whether John Kerry is actually a candidate in or relevant to this particular election at all.
    When your fantasy world has its own cable tv network, who needs reality?

  7. TrollMoron251 —
    It’s not about “drinking the Kool-Aid,” it’s about “speaking the English.”
    Kerry told a string of George W. Bush is Dumb jokes (he used to live in the state of Texas, now he lives in a state of denial, etc.). The subject of the paragraph is George W. Bush. George W. Bush is the antecedent for “you” here. Introducing a new, unspoken subject — the never-mentioned military/troops/OBM&WIU — as Kerry’s supposed antecedent makes no sense. To assume that the clear antecedent is no longer the subject, and that some other, unmentioned, new group of people is, is an arbitrary, baseless, illiterate thing to do.
    So, TrekMedic251, if English is not your first or second language, then take this as a lesson. If it is your first language, then you’re a damned liar.
    (Just to be clear: In English, the “you” in that second sentence serves as a pronoun referring back to the most-recent subject specified — in this case, to “TrekMedic251.” That’s how the language works, so if someone were to inject some other reading into this — claiming, for instance, that the “you” and “your” of that second sentence introduced a new, unspoken subject, The Troops, and that this sentence therefore constitutes a Horrible Insult to OBM&WIU for which an apology must be demanded — then you would know that this person must be A) a shameless liar; B) illiterate; C) TrekMedic251; or D) All of the above.

  8. the not-haha-funny thing is that Ronald Reagan was an FDR Democrat until Nancy reinvented him as a Republican. By all reports she’s incredibly partisan.

  9. Kerry was giving a speech to college students and clearly, whether through intention or Freudian slip, made it known that only under-educated people join the military and then get shipped to Iraq!
    I somehow doubt that Kerry — a highly-decorated military veteran with an Ivy League education — was saying that educated people don’t join the military.

  10. When I read and saw the section of Kerry’s speech, even without the context that the previous part provides, it was perfectly clear to me who he was referencing.

  11. Where do these trolls come from? Second post after your fine comments on yet another use of the troops by the Bush administration, from a real yo-yo.
    Fred, my response to the way the media allows themselves to be manipulated by the right-wing echo chamber, instead of stating simply the facts, was to think words just can’t express how ludicrous public discourse has become in this country. But your words came pretty close.
    Re: the simple facts.
    1. Kerry told a joke about the Bush.
    2. Kerry, muffed the joke by leaving out one word, “us”.
    3. The audience got the joke anyway.
    4. Someone on the right sees the quote and realizes there’s a way to exploit this.
    5. The false understanding is pushed out, saying Kerry insulted the troops.
    6. Eventually, the MSM responds to all of this in one of two ways: repeats the false claim and reports that as what happened; moves up to the meta-narrative which is the manufactured hullabaloo and it’s impact on the election.
    The same thing happened with Michael J. Fox. His interview with Katie Couric shows #6.
    Olbermann nails it too.

  12. Re: media reporting of all of this. In the several reports I happened to see, CNN and NBC, at least, the laughter after Kerry’s comment was cut off so that only Kerry’s comment was heard. Can’t keep up the moral outrage when the audience knows it’s a joke.

  13. The Republicans are so desparate to deflect attention from their record that they’ve resorted to George Bush, yes, George W. Bush, giving grammar lessons.

  14. mcc:Dishonesty works.
    Until that changes, the truth doesn’t matter.That is an accurate observation of how the media is functioning right now. But I think it doesn’t go far enough. What do you propose we do about it? You’ve got your finger on the problem, but I’d hate to think there’s nothing we can do but congratulate ourselves on our knowing cynicism.

  15. From watching Fox News on my lunch break, you would think that Kerry is actually running for something and got caught molesting little boys so now the whole Democratic Party is in trouble. The disconnect from reality on that network is insane.

  16. “Kerry was giving a speech to college students and clearly, whether through intention or Freudian slip, made it known that only under-educated people join the military and then get shipped to Iraq!”
    I’ll make a deal, I’ll accept this if you agree that Bush spoke similarly (intention or slip but letting his true intentions come out) when was talking about how he never stop thinking about ways to harm America and Americans.

  17. Even hearing the ‘joke’ on the network news, stripped of context and explanation, it seemed quite a stretch to call it an insult to the troops. The only thing I found shocking about the story was that any serious news show would have made it their lead. I quickly flipped the channel to find out what the real news of the day was, and found that all three major networks had made this nonsense their top story. Last night, I tuned in again, to find it was still the top story. How anyone can talk about a ‘liberal media’ when all the networks march in lockstep with RNC talking points is beyond me.

  18. This would be the same John Kerry, who, in the 70s lobbied against an all-volunteer military because they would include “the uneducated, and black and brown people” who would perpetuate war crimes.
    This is also the same Kerry who didn’t even complete one tour of duty before getting “wounded” and when he got back stateside, he couldn’t wait to bad-mouth his fellow military personnel.
    So, Fred, am I still a liar?
    Only the product of five successive generations of inbreeding would continue to make such an accusation against me.
    BTW – I have a degree, courtesy of the USMC, thank you very much!

  19. Only the product of five successive generations of inbreeding would continue to make such an accusation against me.
    Only an idiot would preemptively call his opponents inbreds. OMG I CALLED A DOOD IN USMC AN IDIOT I MUST APALOGIZE TO THE NATIOOOOOOON-no.

  20. This would be the same John Kerry, who, in the 70s lobbied against an all-volunteer military because they would include “the uneducated, and black and brown people” who would perpetuate war crimes.
    This is also the same Kerry who didn’t even complete one tour of duty before getting “wounded” and when he got back stateside, he couldn’t wait to bad-mouth his fellow military personnel.
    So, Fred, am I still a liar?
    Only the product of five successive generations of inbreeding would continue to make such an accusation against me.
    BTW – I have a degree, courtesy of the USMC, thank you very much!
    You are certainly lending credence to your interpretation of Kerry’s remarks.

  21. > This would be the same John Kerry, who, in the 70s lobbied against an all-volunteer military because they would include “the uneducated, and black and brown people” who would perpetuate war crimes.
    I know you can provide a source for that. I’ve spent half an hour of Google-fu coming up with absolutely nothing, and I find it hard to believe that you’re the only person in Interwebland to have made the connection between that quote and his recent snafu. Still, when you got that degree (in what subject, if I may ask?) I’m sure they told you that making shit up isn’t the best way to win an argument, so I’m sure that it’s a genuine quote; I’d just like to know when and where he said it, so that I can judge the context for myself.

  22. Only an idiot would preemptively call his opponents inbreds.
    Pre-emptive strikes. Something I learned in the military. Try joining up and see for yourself.
    My degree, BTW, is healthcare management.

  23. These completely irrelevant and baseless attacks by Republicans only serve to further piss off the large majority of the electorate. Gonna be a bad day for Republicans on Tuesday. Then I can dig up that quote from Jesurgislac in the 3.14159265 … The area of the circle of the barrel of a gun thread:
    “How many times are the Republicans going to rig elections in their favor before you stop being an optimist?”
    .. and just smile.

  24. Ah, the quote is “a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown”, which is different enough from what TrekMedic posted to explain why I couldn’t find a reference to it anywhere. Maybe you should learn what “quotation marks” indicate. Unless you were using them as “scare quotes”?
    > Pre-emptive strikes. Something I learned in the military. Try joining up and see for yourself.
    Like attacking Iraq even though they’ve never posed a threat to America? Kind of like shooting someone because you think he might steal your car some time in the future. While I’m sure you were taught that pre-emptive strikes were perfectly acceptable, they are by definition unjustifiable, which means that the very idea makes many people uncomfortable.
    Of course, where the weapons are words rather than bullets, it only serves to make you look like a troll.

  25. That is an accurate observation of how the media is functioning right now. But I think it doesn’t go far enough. What do you propose we do about it? You’ve got your finger on the problem, but I’d hate to think there’s nothing we can do but congratulate ourselves on our knowing cynicism.
    I have no idea. If I did know what to do about it, then I’d be congratulating myself. As it is I’m just panicking :(
    I mean, probably the solution would entail convincing the members of the American public to actually care about and value honesty in the media they consume. But how to make that happen isn’t exactly clear either…
    Still, there may at least be hope that the increasingly unsubtle consequences of the last couple political cycles will eventually start to convince people to start feeling that way on their own. I hear that Fox News’s ratings have dropped quite noticeably in the last year…

  26. Duane: Then I can dig up that quote from Jesurgislac in the 3.14159265 … The area of the circle of the barrel of a gun thread:
    “How many times are the Republicans going to rig elections in their favor before you stop being an optimist?”
    .. and just smile.
    Oh, if it turns out by Thursday (give everyone 48 hours to figure it out) that the Republicans did not succeed in rigging Tuesday’s elections in their favor, then I will eat a meal of tofu crow.
    But they will, and I won’t be smiling when they do. But the Republicans can’t afford not to take control of both Houses this time: too much has gone on that must not be investigated lest too many people end up in jail.

  27. Duane: Then I can dig up that quote from Jesurgislac in the 3.14159265 … The area of the circle of the barrel of a gun thread:
    “How many times are the Republicans going to rig elections in their favor before you stop being an optimist?”
    .. and just smile.
    Oh, if it turns out by Thursday (give everyone 48 hours to figure it out) that the Republicans did not succeed in rigging Tuesday’s elections in their favor, then I will eat a meal of tofu crow.
    But they will, and I won’t be smiling when they do. But the Republicans can’t afford not to take control of both Houses this time: too much has gone on that must not be investigated lest too many people end up in jail.

  28. The events of the past week have made a couple of things perfectly clear.
    1) John Kerry needs to leave the joke-telling to the professionals – comedians.
    2) The Republicans needs to leave running the country to the professionals – Democrats.

  29. Really interesting. When a Republican makes a verbal gaff, well it’s just a verbal gaff. But when a Democrat makes a verbal gaff, well its the end of the world and appologies are demanded. When a Republican is caught in a sex scandal, well its just a personal problem and checking into rehab is the end of the story. If a Democrat gets caught in a sex scandel it is a reflection on the entire Democratic party and everyone that votes Democratic. Does anyone besides me think that the Republicans have a problem with double standards?
    Let me clue you into a few things that you seem to have overlooked TrekMedic251.
    1)The Republicans claim to be the party of family values. Yet time and time again they have ignored those values when it is politically expedient. The Democrats can’t be held to the same standard because they don’t pretend to be the family values party. In other words its a little bit like a Christian complaining that a Jew isn’t behaving in a Christian manner.
    2)Not all slips of the tongue or misreadings of prepared scripts are Freuadian slips indicative of a deeply held personal belief. To insist otherwise is irrational. People make mistakes, or occassionally say things incorrectly. Its a fact of life. May I suggest using a small dose of something called perspective.
    3)Pre-emptive personal attacks are petty, childish, and make you look like a small minded troll. Believe it or not there are intelligent thoughtful people in this world that can look at something and, horror of horrors, see a different solution. The world is NOT black and white, and people of good consience can disagree about things. To insist that you are the sole holder of all that is good and truthful is an act of huburis. If you want to provide thoughtful arguments I will be more than happy to read them. Until then, well from your first post you have been behaving like a troll (i.e. the Kool Aid comment) so as far as I am concerned you are a troll.
    4)We are still waiting for links to your “facts” about Kerry. And links to Republican shill sites don’t count. Until then I consider your facts to be nothing more than misinformation. A desperate ploy by desperate people to hang onto power at any cost, that you have bought hook, line and, sinker.

  30. When a Republican is caught in a sex scandal, well its just a personal problem and checking into rehab is the end of the story.
    In some quarters, when a Republican is caught in a sex scandal, it is a reflection on the entire Democratic party and everyone that votes Democratic./snark
    Does anyone besides me think that the Republicans have a problem with double standards?
    Everyone has double standards. Some worse than others, and yes, I do think the Republican party has a particularly high concentration of slimy people.

  31. This is also the same Kerry who didn’t even complete one tour of duty before getting “wounded” and when he got back stateside, he couldn’t wait to bad-mouth his fellow military personnel.
    Oh, the good old “Purple Heart Band-aids”! No insult to the troops there! (I guess only SwiftBoat Liars and their Blow-Job Buddies get to decide who really deserves a Purple Heart…)
    (At least Scott is sometimes funny.)

  32. Partial list of people who, knowing this, pretended something else was true:
    Be sure to include Tony Snow. “How does the word ‘us’ even fit in there? It doesn’t make sense.” The clip on Colbert Report was priceless.
    They seem to delight in their indignation, even though they know it’s baseless.
    This is what’s been bothering me for a long while now. Especially during negative ad season. Like the candidate accusing his opponent of using public money to pay for phone sex. It’s obviously a bogus charge, as any glance at the phone bill would reveal. Does that fact by itself warrant the outrage? Is there any sincere feeling that such trivia is enough to disqualify someone for office?
    I’ve got nothing against negative ads per se. A legitimate list of grievances (like, say, the Declaration of Independence) is about as negative as can be, yet wholly relevant to a political decision.
    And it’s insulting to see politicians & pundits make fools of their audiences by tricking them into believing things they know aren’t true. But I guess that comes with the job description.

  33. Atlantis is sinking; where’s my ZPM?

    So, unless you’ve been living under a rock, you know by now that a little while ago, former presidential hopeful (some people who are not me would say “former presidential winner”) John Kerry commited what might generously be described as…

  34. I just love how the Bush-haters pretend to have understood the quote, even when it was out of context.
    You’re all so full of shit.
    I love how all the Bush-haters join in with kerry when he acts so offended that as a formember of the Armed forces, he would NEVER make a disparaging comment about our fighting men & women. Does anyone remember his excruciating testimony upon his return from Vietnam??
    Sooooo full of shit.
    No, I’m nto a fan of our current administration. But to defend Kerry like this is completely assonine.
    They all suck! The system sucks! John Kerry is no more intelligent than George W. They’re both Ivy league grads with their heads up thier own rears. ie- their view is the same…
    Sooooo full of shit!

  35. gredaadt:
    I just love how the Bush-haters pretend to have understood the quote, even when it was out of context.
    “I could while away the hours,
    Conversing with the flowers
    If I only had a brain…”

  36. Everyone has double standards. Some worse than others, and yes, I do think the Republican party has a particularly high concentration of slimy people.
    Good point. But for me it is the combination of double standards, politically expedient hypocrisy, and ‘by God you will do it my way’ power plays, that make me trust the Republican leadership as far as I can throw a battleship.

  37. (I guess only SwiftBoat Liars and their Blow-Job Buddies get to decide who really deserves a Purple Heart…)
    No, Jeff,…people like me, who lost their hearing in one ear and had their right pelvis shattered by a bomber in Beirut get to print that opinion.
    Kerry got shot in the ass and was no more deserving, IMN-SHO, that say,..the soldiers who came back from the Persian Gulf War with hang nails and swamp foot.

  38. Purple Hearts are given for the following enemy-related injuries:
    a) Injury caused by enemy bullet, shrapnel or other projectile created by enemy action.
    b) Injury caused by enemy-placed mine or trap.
    c) Injury caused by enemy-released chemical, biological or nuclear agent.
    d) Injury caused by vehicle or aircraft accident resulting from enemy fire.
    e) Concussion injuries caused as a result of enemy-generated explosions.
    Examples of injuries or wounds which clearly do not qualify for award of the Purple Heart are as follows:
    a) Frostbite or trench foot injuries.
    b) Heat stroke.
    c) Food poisoning not caused by enemy agents.
    d) Chemical, biological, or nuclear agents not released by the enemy.
    e) Battle fatigue.
    f) Disease not directly caused by enemy agents.
    g) Accidents, to include explosive, aircraft, vehicular and other accidental wounding not related to or caused by enemy action.
    (cite)
    You do understand why getting “shot in the ass” and and getting “hang nails and swamp foot” are in different categories, right? But then, it’s a moot point, as all three of Kerry’s Purple Hearts were for shrapnel wounds from grenades and mines (right arm, left leg and left arm). I can’t understand why inventing the idea that he got shot in the backside would make people think his Purple Hearts were less deserved – why not claim he fell out of bed, or hit his head on a door frame, if you’re going lie about it. Is there something about getting “shot in the ass” that seems like “not a combat wound” to you?
    But if we temporarily accept your claims as being somewhere in the vicinity of reality, are you seriously claiming that someone who gets shot by enemy troops shouldn’t qualify, purely because of where the bullet hits? Are you also campaining to have other Purple Hearts redacted because you don’t think the wounds were serious enough to deserve them, or is this an honour you reserve exclusively for John Kerry? Is there anyone you served with who got given a Purple Heart that you don’t think they deserve?

  39. If nothing else comes of this election, it is enough for me just that George Allen and John Kerry will never be serious candidates for President in the future. Because the bar had to be set so low to allow these dimwitted silver spoon legacy kids (no names!) to lead us, I believe there should be a minimum standard met to qualify one to be President:
    YOU MUST BE A VERY GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER.
    That’s it. You can outsource everything else. Let’s all rise up as a people and demand that, at the very least, our privileged and Ivy League overlords at least learn how to enthrall us with the spoken word.

  40. Kerry got shot in the ass and was no more deserving
    As Wintermute has already pointed out, Kerry didn’t get “shot in the ass”, but it’s interesting to know that you believe soldiers don’t deserve to get Purple Hearts if they receive an injury caused by enemy bullet, shrapnel or other projectile created by enemy action in their gluteus maximus. I guess when it comes to this scene in M*A*S*H you get all het up about that too:
    Wounded Soldier: What if they ask me where I got hit?
    Hawkeye: Look them right in the eye and say without blinking, “I got hit in the butt.” And if they keep bugging you, drop your pants and show them your scar.
    Wounded Soldier: [Snort] make me laugh.
    Hawkeye: Whitney, we’re talking about your body. It’s been invaded by a bullet and there’s nothing amusing about that.
    Wounded Soldier: Don’t I know it.
    Hawkeye: On the other hand, you should be proud. You have a very special wound – it’s symbolic of this entire war. This whole thing has been one giant pain in the butt. When they wanna hand you your purple heart, you can tell them where to pin it.

  41. TrekMedic251:
    No, Jeff,…people like me, who lost their hearing in one ear and had their right pelvis shattered by a bomber in Beirut get to print that opinion.
    No, military regulations determine who gets a Purple Heart. It’s not up to you! I guess you were asleep the day they covered that.

  42. Maybe that wound he suffered in Beirut caused TM some brain damage. It just burns me up that the draft-dodger and coward Ronald Reagan cut and run from Beirut!
    Disclaimer: I voted for the coward Reagan AND the coward Kerry. I never voted for the manly man TM.