Paul & April are joined by Matthew Phifer, MSEd, who is a therapist, speaker, trainer, and toxic relationship, narcissism, trauma and emotional abuse expert. Matthew is here to talk all about narcissism in the church: the different types of narcissism, the cover churches give for them and signs to look for. He also tells us about the dangers of high-control groups like cults and how many churches aren't any different when they use FOG - fear, obligation and guilt tactics. Follow Matt on Tiktok, Youtube, IG @mattphifercoaching Buy his book "Oh Sh!t, I Think They're a F^cking Narcissist" on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099X56CDH?tag=mattphifercoa-20 Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy or email us: [email protected] Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.