In this episode we speak with our good friend Jason Elam. Jason Elam is Brandi’s grateful husband, the proud dad of 4 awesome kids, a former professional wrestler and radio broadcaster, and former local church pastor for over 20 years. He is the author of the forthcoming book, “From Ashes We Rise” and hosts The Messy Spirituality Podcast. You can connect with Jason on Facebook , Twitter , Instagram , and Patreon. Please follow us on the following social media platforms Facebook Twitter Instagram Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts