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Christianity, Good News For All: A Conversation With Ric Machuga EPISODE 115

This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The New Evangelicals : Pushing the Evangelical Church forward and to re-think how it approaches key cultural issues. In this episode we chat with Ric Machuga. Ric Machuga has taught philosophy and in the Honor Program at Butte College for thirty-five years. He is the author of In Defense of the Soul (2002), Life, the Universe, and Everything (2011), and numerous pieces for Books & Culture. You can connect with Ric on: Facebook You can purchase Ric's latest book The Christian Story Told As Good News For All on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!

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Part 2 of our Conversation with Diana Butler Bass
In part 2 we continue our chat with Diana Butler Bass. Diana Butler Bass is an award-winning author, popular speaker, inspiring preacher, and one of America’s most trusted commentators on religion and contemporary spirituality, especially where faith intersects with politics and culture. She holds a doctorate in religious studies from Duke University. Her bylines include The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN.com, Atlantic.com, USA Today, Huffington Post, Christian Century, and Sojourners. She has commented in the media widely including on CBS, CNN, PBS, NPR, CBC, FOX, Sirius XM, TIME, Newsweek, Rolling Stone, Mother Jones, and in multiple global news outlets. In the 1990s, she wrote a weekly column on religion and culture for the Santa Barbara News-Press, which was distributed nationally by the New York Times Syndicate. Diana's latest book Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence will be released in paperback on March 8, 2022. You can follow Diana on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out all things Diana Butler Bass related on her website You can purchase Freeing Jesus and all of Diana's other book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 5
Into the grey with Michelle Collins
In this episode we talk to Michelle Collins Michelle Collins a wife, and mother to 4 grown children. She served in the US Marine Corps. Is currently pursuing a doctorate in psychology as well as additional degrees in biblical studies and Christian counseling. An introvert dedicated to both fitness of body and mind. Michelle possesses the rare ability to participate in a discussion and see both sides without disparaging those of whom she might disagree. She is currently writing a book on the grief cycle applied to religious deconstruction. You can connect with Michelle Collins on: Facebook , Instagram (if you want to follow her body building) Michelle is also the co-host of Mental Podcast We will link to her new book as soon as it is available to purchase. Keep an eye out for it. The title of the book is Into The Grey Please follow us on the following social media platforms Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 7
You can’t miss this episode. A conversation with Thomas Jay Oord the author of God Can’t
In this episode we talk to Thomas Jay Oord. Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. He directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. A twelve-time Faculty Award-winning professor, Oord teaches at institutions around the globe. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation. You can connect With Thomas Jay Oord on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Also, check out his website. You can purchase Thomas Jay Oord's book God Can't on Amazon.com Please follow us on the following social media platforms Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 13
Getting Comfortable in Uncomfortable Conversations with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken
In this episode we chat with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken about racism in America, the Israeli and Palestinian conflict, and the similarities and differences between these two issues that seem to divide our country. Felicia is an ordained pastor with River Fellowship and presently resides in Atlanta, Georgia with her husband, Doug. Together they have served in church leadership and ministerial roles for almost 20 years. Currently, they oversee Wise Counsel Ministries bringing transformation to both people and organizations. Felicia’s greatest joy is loving people. With a heart to equip and empower others, her passion is to bring others into a revelation of sonship where they learn to walk as Jesus walked through the experience of Father God continuously loving them. She and Doug have 4 adult children. You can connect with her on Facebook Instagram You can get a copy of her book on Amazon.com Mercy Aiken made Israel and Palestine lived intermittently in Bethlehem, Palestine, from September 2015 to the summer of 2020. Prior to this, she worked many years as a writer and leader in various web-based ministries and leadership in local churches. She is involved with Bethlehem Bible College and the biannual Christ at the Checkpoint conference held in Bethlehem which challenges evangelicals to consider the perspective and experience of Palestinian Christians. She is also committed to relationship and bridge-building work with Muslims and Jews. She is currently pursuing a Master’s Degree through St. Stephen's University and is the author of a soon-to-be-released book about Dr. Bishara Awad, the founder of Bethlehem Bible College, tentatively entitled "Fire in Bethlehem." You can connect with her on Facebook Instagram Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 17
Jesus And John Wayne: A conversation with Kristin Du Mez
In this episode we talk with Kristin Du Mez. Kristin Kobes Du Mez is a New York Times bestselling author and Professor of History and Gender Studies at Calvin University. She holds a PhD from the University of Notre Dame and her research focuses on the intersection of gender, religion, and politics. She has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post , NBC News , Religion News Service , and Christianity Today , and has been interviewed on NPR, CBS, and the BBC, among other outlets. Her most recent book is Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation (which was just released in paperback). You can connect with Kristin on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Kristin's website Kristin's books can be purchased on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 18
The Art Of The Dissident: A Conversation With David Hayward (The Naked Pastor)
In this episode we talk with David Hayward - AKA The Naked Pastor. After 30 years in the church, David left the ministry to pursue his passion for art. David Hayward - AKA NakedPastor uses words and images to challenge the status quo, deconstruct dogma, and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it. David is no stranger to belief systems - he holds a Masters in Theological Studies, as well as Diplomas in Religious Studies and Ministry, and University Teaching. His art expresses the stories and struggles of spiritual refugees and independent thinkers who question, doubt or oppose the confines of religion. Each piece encourages difficult conversations and acts as a catalyst for critical thinking. David is an artist and writer who supports LGBTQ+ people and groups, BIPOC and women artists, creatives, journalists, and more, and encourage others to do the same. You can connect with David on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find and purchase all of David Hayward's Art and merch on his website David Hayward's books can be purchased on amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 19
Unlocking The True Nature Of God With C. Baxter Kruger
In this episode we talk with C. Baxter Kruger. C. BAXTER KRUGER, Ph.D. is a Trinitarian scholar and the Director of Perichoresis Ministries, an international ministry proclaiming gospel of the Triune God. A life-long student of psychology, he has a degree in political science, and his Doctor of Philosophy from Kings College, Aberdeen, Scotland. He is the author of nine books including the international bestseller, The Shack Revisited, and recently Patmos. Baxter and his wife Beth have been married for 34 years and have four children, and one granddaughter. He teaches around the world. You can connect with Baxter on: Facebook Twitter Instagram The website for Perichoresis is here You can purchase all of Baxter's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 21
Shattering the stronghold of shame with John Lynch
In this episode we talk with John Lynch John Lynch is a speaker, author, and former pastor. After 27 years as the teaching pastor at Open Door Fellowship in Phoenix, Arizona, John joined Trueface in 1997 and began speaking nationally and both authoring and coauthoring many resources such as The Cure and TrueFaced, and his own story in On My Worst Day. As an outlet for his love of writing and performing, John co-founded and was both a playwright and actor for Sharkey Productions, a theater troupe focused on Gospel-anchored theater productions for those still seeking Jesus. John and his wife Stacey have three grown children and a growing troupe of grandchildren. You can connect with John Lynch on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out his website for John Lynch Speaks You can purchase all of John's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 24
Good Things Happen In This Episode with Ellen Compton
In this episode we have a conversation with Ellen Compton. I will let Ellen introduce herself. Allow me to introduce myself with a few miscellaneous thoughts: I am a family-prioritizing, coffee-drinking, truth-telling, authenticity-seeking, list-making, God-following, world-loving, ambiverted, former closet writer. The words laid back have never been used to describe me. I am an unabashed over-user of hashtags and emojis. The message written on my heart is one of identity; I am passionate about living authentically as the person I was created to be and helping others to do likewise…even in the midst of this gauntlet that is life. I live on the east coast of Canada with my family. My teenagers are occasionally mind-boggling, and entirely magnificent. In addition to writing, I teach French to High School students…and all remaining hours are, quite literally, spent in my vehicle, driving the teenagers to hockey practices, rehearsals, horseback riding, and to visit friends. It’s a full, imperfect and wonderful life. You can connect with Ellen on: Facebook Instgram Her new book Good Things Happen In The Dark can be purchased on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 25
Reframing Paul with Douglas Campbell
In this episode we continue our conversation with Douglas Campbell. Douglas was born in London but raised a New Zealander. He did his undergraduate degree in Political Philosophy at the University of Otago in New Zealand, and his graduate degrees in Religious Studies at the University of Toronto in Canada, where he was supported by a Commonwealth Scholarship. He wrote his thesis on Romans 3:21-26 under the direction of Richard Longenecker. His first academic post was in Religious Studies at his alma mater, the University of Otago (1989-96). After seven years he went to teach in Theology and Religious Studies at King's College London (1996-2003), and after another seven years was hired into his current teaching position at Duke Divinity School, where he is now a Professor of New Testament and directs the Prison Studies program. Since arriving at Duke in 2003 he has published four books on the apostle Paul, with a fifth, reasonably large, book due to arrive in the book shops in November 2019. Douglas has two adult children, and is a keen supporter of the arts, as his wife, Rachel , is a painter. He loves the warm weather of North Carolina, and currently lives in downtown Durham with two cats, a dog, and his wife's chickens. Despite qualms in terms of a Christian virtue ethic, he remains passionate about international politics and international rugby. You can connect with Douglas on: Facebook Twitter You can find all of Douglas Campbell's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 27
The Church Can Go To Hell - A Conversation With Desimber Rose
In this episode we talk with Desimber Rose. The author of the book - The Church Can Go To Hell Desimber Rose is an author, poet, spoken word artist, and former Pastor of The Restoration Center in Greenville, South Carolina and The Rock Worship Center in West Union, South Carolina. At every opportunity she is committed to reaching souls through love and truth, restoring lives through servant leadership, and equipping the Body of Christ for righteous living through the teaching of sound doctrine. Her approach to the Gospel is practical, realistic, and void of legalism and religious restriction. Her sole objective is to present the Savior to the world as she understands Him... to spread the Good News of God's Grace to the world through radical truth. There is a kind of testimony and witness that can only come from brokenness. There is a level of compassion that can only be expressed by those who need it most. Desimber Rose speaks for those who don't have the words... for those whose voices have been muted by failure, rejection, abuse, and trauma... for those familiar with the darkness and fluent in pain. You can connect with Desimber Rose on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can purchase her book - The Church Can Go To Hell on Amazon.com You can find some of her Spoken word on her Youtube channel. You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! If you enjoy our show, could you take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. This will help new listeners find us. Voiceover clip in intro used with permission by C. Baxter Kruger
Episode 34
Theosis And The Four Paths With Alexander John Shaia
In this episode we talk with Alexander John Shaia. Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander John was part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up immersed in the ancient traditions of Middle Eastern Christianity (Maronite Catholicism) and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. He was led otherwise. Alexander John attended the University of Notre Dame and received a degree in Cultural Anthropology. Next came a brief time in seminary followed by a Master’s in Counseling Education, a Master’s in Religious Education, a graduate certificate in Pastoral Psychotherapy, and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. His extensive psychological training across many modalities finally led him to Switzerland where he studied with the Jungian Analyst and founder of Sandplay Psychotherapy, Dora Maria Kalff. Alexander John became the first US man admitted to the International Society for Sandplay Therapy and continues to serve as a senior Certified Teaching Member of the organization. Returning to the United States, he undertook years of private practice, teaching, parish and retreat ministry and further study. Integrating his life-long practice of prayer with many cross-disciplines—anthropology, psychology, spirituality, and ritual work—has shaped him into a unique thought-leader and a widely sought consultant, trainer, and inspiring keynote speaker. Then in 2000, Alexander John’s professional life expanded from being primarily a speaker to also that of an author, now with some eight books and more in the works. He lives in the high Rocky Mountains in Northern New Mexico and the wild Atlantic coast of Northwest Spain. A perfect day finds him in the presence of ancient trees, massive stones, his dog and a book of poetry. You can Follow Alexander John Shaia on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out his website You can purchase his book on Amazon.com You can check out his partnership with Quoir Publishing here You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 36
Only Love: How Everything Was. Is. And Will Be With Niq Ruud
In this episode we talk with Niq Ruud. Niq's bio in his own words: The funky spelling is my dad’s fault, but it’s just pronounced like your favorite Christmas saint. I grew up in the good ole Pacific Northwest which means I like doing stuff outside—alpine climbing, sailing, surfing, skiing, cycling, et cetera. I studied religion in college (Walla Walla University), worked as a pastor while I went to seminary (Grand Canyon Theological Seminary), and now I’m a postgrad studying the intersectionality between philosophy, science, and religion (University of Edinburgh). I’m interested in lots of things, including religious pluralism, philosophy of science and religion, eschatology, diversity, and ethics, which all gravitate around the human perception of God. I wrote a book about God too, it’s called Only Love: How Everything Was, Is, and Will Be. It basically advocates for a more open-minded view of God and, subsequently, a more inclusive view of each other. I like it. You might too. You can follow Niq on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can catch up with all things Niq Ruud at his website Check out his TedTalk HERE Niq's book Only Love will be released soon by Quoir Publishing You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 38
Reconstructing Your Mind With Todd Vick
In this episode we talk with Todd Vick. Todd is a husband, father, grandfather, bestselling author, award-winning writer, podcaster, and conference speaker. His first book, The Renewing of Your Mind, debuted as #1 New Release and #1 Bestseller on Amazon. His next book, The Reconstructing of Your Mind, is available NOW. His podcast, The Reconstruction Rebel, is available wherever you stream your podcasts. For 30 years, Todd was a pastor in the Southern Baptist denomination. He left local church ministry in 2016 after a nervous breakdown fueled by severe anxiety, depression, addiction, and a crisis of belief which led to intense spiritual deconstruction for 3 years. During this time, he became fascinated with the role of the human brain in creating a belief system. You can follow Todd on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can catch up with all things Todd Vick at his website You can purchase his books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 40
The Jesus Way: A Conversation With Peri Zahnd
In this Episode we chat with Peri Zahnd. Peri Zahn is the co-pastor of Word of Life Church in St. Joseph MO. Along with her husband Brian. They have committed their entire adult life to this calling and Word of life just celebrated 40 years. She was trained in spiritual direction by Benedictine Sisters and is completing a master’s in ministry now through St. Stephens University in New Brunswick Canada. Her passions are helping others to grow into Christ Likeness leading small groups and meeting individuals for pastoral care and spiritual direction. She is passionate about her kids and grandkids and the enneagram and about Christian pilgrimage. She and Brian have walked the Camino De Santiago in Spain three times and Peri Authored a memoir about their first experience called Every Scene By Heart. You can follow Peri on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Word of Life Church website You can purchase Peri's book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 42
Wholehearted Faith: A Conversation With Jeff Chu
In this Episode we chat with Jeff Chu. Here is Jeff's bio in his own words. I wear several different hats to cover my coarse Chinese hair, which requires too much product to tame: Writer, reporter, editor. Co-curator and co-host, with Sarah Bessey, Of Evolving Faith. Editor-at-large at Travel & Leisure. Occasional preacher. Teacher in residence at Crosspointe Church. Ordinand in the Reformed Church in America (RCA). Cook, gardener, and dog walker to Fozzie in Michigan, where my husband and I moved last year. (First time living in the Midwest. Snow tires are a revelation!) Before that, I was a seminarian at Princeton Theological Seminary, where I worked as a farmhand at PTS’s Farminary. Don’t be deceived… When I got to the Farminary, a 21-acre experiment in sustainable agriculture that doubles as the world’s best classroom, I didn’t know anything about farming, and I had more experience killing plants than nurturing them. But my work on the farm changed me. More than anything else in my life, that land taught me about the story of life, death, and new life that God has written into creation. You can connect with Jeff on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Jeff's website You can purchase Jeff's book at Amazon.com You can purchase Rachel Held Evan's book that Jeff helped finish at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 43
Harm Reduction and Radical Love with Josh Lawson
In This episode we chat with Josh Lawson. Josh Lawson lives with his family in Wheelersburg Ohio, where he serves his community in a variety of roles as recovery program coordinator for the Shawnee State University Kricker Innovation Hub. He works to connect people in recovery with entrepreneurial skills and services that will help them succeed in life. He also chairs the faith-based sub community of Scioto Connect the counties local opioid consortium where he consults with faith communities on how to support people who use drugs and those in recovery. As an author he recently published his first book The Face of Addiction which tells the story of 12 people in Southern Ohio who have been impacted by the opioid overdose crisis. In his follow up book Drugs and Jesus which is set to release in 2022 will be the first of its kind to present a call to action for people of faith to engage in the work of harm reduction. You can connect with Josh Lawson on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can purchase Josh's book at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 44
The Geometry Of Truth with Bayo Akomolafe
In This episode we chat with Bayo Akomolafe. Bayo Akomolafe is the grateful life-partner to ‘EJ’, father to Alethea Aanya and Kyah Jayden Abayomi, son of Olufunmilayo Ibidapo Akomolafe and Ignatius Abayomi Akomolafe, and descendant of Yoruba fields of archetypal becomings and mythopoeic landscapes. He is an author, celebrated speaker, teacher, and self-styled trans-public intellectual (a concept imagined together with and inspired by the shamanic priesthood of the Yoruba healer-trickster)- whose vocation goes beyond justice and speaking truth to power to opening up other spaces of power-with, and queering fond formulations and configurations of hope. Dr. Bayo Akomolafe considers his most sacred work to be learning how to be with his daughter and son, Alethea Aanya and Kyah Jayden – and their mother, his wife and “life-nectar”, Ijeoma. “To learn the importance of insignificance” is the way he frames a desire to reacquaint himself with a world that is irretrievably entangled, preposterously alive and completely partial. You can follow Bayo on: Facebook Twitter Check out Bayo's You can purchase Bayo's book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 46
An Intellectually Honest Conversation with Jonathan Foster
In this episode we chat with Jonathan Foster. Jonathan Foster is the award-winning author of the following books… • Where Was God on the Worst Day of My Life • Death, Hope, and the Laughter of God: An Unlikely Title About the Unlikely Path Where God Finds Us • Questions about Sexuality that Got Me Uninvited from My Denomination • The Hope and Melvin of Humanity and Other Surprising Short Stories There was something of a breakthrough with The Reconstructionist as it was his first book with less than ten words in the title. He's incredibly proud of what's happening at LQVE.org. When he's not with his family, he's reading Rene Girard or Open and Relational Theology. Or both. To find out more about what he's up to, make sure to sign up for the e-newsletter at his website, and when you do, you'll receive some more of his writing (a classic win-win). You can follow Jonathan Foster on: Facebook Twitter Connect with Jonathan on his Website You can purchase all of Jonathan's book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 47
The Hypocrisy of Faith: A Conversation with Hemant Mehta (AKA The Friendly Atheist)
In this episode we chat with Hemant Mehta (AKA The Friendly Atheist) Hemant Mehta is the editor of Friendly Atheist, appears on the Atheist Voice channel on YouTube, and co-hosts the uniquely-named Friendly Atheist Podcast. He is a former National Board Certified high school math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago, where he taught for for seven years. He continues to coach their Speech/forensics team. Hemant has appeared on CNN and FOX News Channel, served on the boards for Foundation Beyond Belief (a charity organization targeting non-theistic donors) and the Secular Student Alliance (which creates and supports college atheist groups nationwide). On April 1, 2020, Mehta won his first appearance on the television game show Jeopardy You can follow Hemant on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Follow his blog on Patheos Find his podcast HERE You can purchase Hemant's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 50
Free Mom Hugs: An LGBTQIA+ Affirming Conversation with Sara Cunningham
In this episode we chat with Sara Cunningham. Sara Cunningham is an author, activist, and founder of the non-profit organization Free Mom Hugs. Her journey is a surprising one that began in conservative Oklahoma, when her son, Parker, came out as gay. As a woman of faith, Sara wrestled with the news until she began to study, research, and reconcile the two worlds. This journey resulted in her book How We Sleep at Night. She found herself on a journey “from the church to the Pride parade,” falling in love with the LGBTQIA+ community. In the wake of beautiful glitter-covered hugs and heart-breaking horror stories, the mission of Free Mom Hugs began. Simple acts of love and acceptance turned into a viral sensation, and Sara knew she had the opportunity to lead impactful change. You can follow Sara on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Free Mom Hugs at their website You can purchase Sara's book at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 51
A Clock, A Key, and A Net: A Conversation with Carol Wimmer
In this episode we chat with Carol Wimmer. After twenty-two years of church ministry, as a director of music and artistic ministries, Carol Wimmer felt a call that led her away from the institutional model of the church. From 1996 to 2000, she experienced an intense time of spiritual growth. The new insights opened the door to fresh theological perspectives in three areas of human concern: time, language, and the organization of God’s people. Believing that personal insight must be grounded in credible scholarship, Carol entered the field of biblical research as an independent researcher. Her studies culminated in the presentation of several academic papers within the Society of Biblical Literature. She has published three books to date and is planning to publish her fourth book soon. She hopes her research will help, in some small way, to reorient the focus of the collective human spirit in the areas of time, language and organization. Carol writes from a visionary perspective. She offers spiritual insights gained through the lens of light, color and images of Creation. You can Follow Carol on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Carol's website You can purchase Carol's book at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 52
Freed Hearts Loving Well: A Conversation with Susan Cottrell
In this episode we chat with Susan Cottrell. SUSAN COTTRELL is an international speaker whose TEDx talk has 1.5 million views. OutSmart magazine called her “The Mother of All MamaBears.” The Advocate dubbed her “our favorite affirming matriarch.” She is a prominent voice for the LGBTQ community and their faith parents who has been featured on ABC’s 20/20 , Nightline and Good Morning America , on NBC News Out , and as a contributor on the Our Bible app. She is a public theologian and through her nonprofit organization—FreedHearts—Susan expresses her authentic love for the LGBTQ+ community and families; and she sees love as the healing foundation of family, faith, and community. She spent 20+ years in the nonaffirming Evangelical church, has a Master of Arts in Theological Studies, and served as the Vice-President of PFLAG Austin. Her FreedHearts Blog and YouTube videos have millions of viewers, and her books “Mom, I’m Gay”—Loving Your LGBTQ Child and Strengthening Your Faith ; True Colors: Celebrating the Truth and Beauty of the Real You ; Radically Included: The Biblical Case for Radical Love and Inclusion ; and Be the Love You Want to See in the World are critically acclaimed. She and her husband Rob have been married for 34 years and have five children, two of whom identify as queer. You can follow Susan on: Facebook Instagram Check out FreedHearts on there website Take a listen to Susan's podcast You can purchase Susan's book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 53
How Race Broke America and How We Can Fix It: A Conversation with Lisa Sharon Harper
In this episode we chat with Lisa Sharon Harper Ms. Harper is the author of several books, including Evangelical Does Not Equal Republican…or Democrat (The New Press, 2008); Left Right and Christ: Evangelical Faith in Politics (Elevate, 2011); Forgive Us: Confessions of a Compromised Faith (Zondervan, 2014); and the critically acclaimed, The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong can be Made Right (Waterbrook, a division of Penguin Random House, 2016). The Very Good Gospel, recognized as the “2016 Book of the Year” by Englewood Review of Books, explores God’s intent for the wholeness of all relationships in light of today’s headlines. Her latest book Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and the World - And How to Repair It All releases on 02/08/2022 Ms. Harper earned her Masters degree in Human Rights from Columbia University in New York City, and served as Sojourners Chief Church Engagement Officer. In this capacity, she fasted for 22 days as a core faster in 2013 with the immigration reform Fast for Families. She trained and catalyzed evangelicals in St. Louis and Baltimore to engage the 2014 push for justice in Ferguson and the 2015 healing process in Baltimore, and she educated faith leaders in South Africa to pull the levers of their new democracy toward racial equity and economic inclusion. You can follow Lisa on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Lisa's website to stay connected with all her upcoming events. Here is a link to the trailer for Lisa's new book Fortune You can purchase all of Lisa's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 54
Part 2 with Lisa Sharon Harper - A deeper dive into her book Fortune
In this second part episode we dive deeper into Lisa Sharon Harper's new book Fortune Ms. Harper is the author of several books, including Evangelical Does Not Equal Republican…or Democrat (The New Press, 2008); Left Right and Christ: Evangelical Faith in Politics (Elevate, 2011); Forgive Us: Confessions of a Compromised Faith (Zondervan, 2014); and the critically acclaimed, The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong can be Made Right (Waterbrook, a division of Penguin Random House, 2016). The Very Good Gospel, recognized as the “2016 Book of the Year” by Englewood Review of Books, explores God’s intent for the wholeness of all relationships in light of today’s headlines. Her latest book Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and the World - And How to Repair It All releases on 02/08/2022 Ms. Harper earned her Masters degree in Human Rights from Columbia University in New York City, and served as Sojourners Chief Church Engagement Officer. In this capacity, she fasted for 22 days as a core faster in 2013 with the immigration reform Fast for Families. She trained and catalyzed evangelicals in St. Louis and Baltimore to engage the 2014 push for justice in Ferguson and the 2015 healing process in Baltimore, and she educated faith leaders in South Africa to pull the levers of their new democracy toward racial equity and economic inclusion. You can follow Lisa on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Lisa's website to stay connected with all her upcoming events. Here is a link to the trailer for Lisa's new book Fortune You can purchase all of Lisa's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 55
Walking the Camino with Alexander John Shaia
We are honored to have back with us - Alexander John Shaia. Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander John was part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up immersed in the ancient traditions of Middle Eastern Christianity (Maronite Catholicism) and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. He was led otherwise. Alexander John attended the University of Notre Dame and received a degree in Cultural Anthropology. Next came a brief time in seminary followed by a Master’s in Counseling Education, a Master’s in Religious Education, a graduate certificate in Pastoral Psychotherapy, and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. His extensive psychological training across many modalities finally led him to Switzerland where he studied with the Jungian Analyst and founder of Sandplay Psychotherapy, Dora Maria Kalff. Alexander John became the first US man admitted to the International Society for Sandplay Therapy and continues to serve as a senior Certified Teaching Member of the organization. Returning to the United States, he undertook years of private practice, teaching, parish and retreat ministry and further study. Integrating his life-long practice of prayer with many cross-disciplines—anthropology, psychology, spirituality, and ritual work—has shaped him into a unique thought-leader and a widely sought consultant, trainer, and inspiring keynote speaker. Then in 2000, Alexander John’s professional life expanded from being primarily a speaker to also that of an author, now with some eight books and more in the works. He lives in the high Rocky Mountains in Northern New Mexico and the wild Atlantic coast of Northwest Spain. A perfect day finds him in the presence of ancient trees, massive stones, his dog and a book of poetry. You can Follow Alexander John Shaia on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out his website Check out his online classes on The Shift Network You can purchase his book on Amazon.com You can check out his partnership with Quoir Publishing here You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related. Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 57
The Bible Speaks to You: A Conversation with James Early
In this episode we chat with James Early Here is James' bio in his own words. I am a Bible teacher, speaker, blogger, podcaster, soon-to-be author. And I am a “Jesus mindset”coach. Since October 2008 I have conducted weekly Bible studies at the Federal Correctional Institution in Danbury, CT. I give talks and conduct workshops on the Bible covering a wide range of topics to churches and groups as well as at the prison. I grew up in Amarillo, Texas and was a member of the Presbyterian Church. In high school I became dis-satisfied with some of the things I was being taught there and started going to the Christian Science church, which I have been a member of since. Currently I live in Bethel, CT with my wife, Polly Castor. We have three grown children, which we homeschooled all the way through high school. I was a full-time stay-at-home dad for 10 years when we first started our family. I love to garden and hike in my spare time. I never fit into the corporate world, but have done sales and marketing and voice-over work, which led me to want to share my message instead of someone else's. So, I started The Bible Speaks to You Podcast in the fall of 2019, to explore the here-and-nowness of the kingdom of heaven and how it impacts the way we live our daily lives. The purpose of my podcast is to get back to the original Christianity of Jesus without all the things we have added in the last 2,000 years, to rediscover our right and our ability to think, act, pray, and heal like Jesus did. I am on a journey to discover our right and ability to embrace this mindset of Jesus, to see ourselves through the lens of Christ’s love, and live our lives from the perspective of Jesus’s promise that the kingdom of heaven is at hand. I help others discover this for themselves as well. You can follow James on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out all things connected to James and his podcast on his website You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 58
Freeing Jesus: A Conversation with Diana Butler Bass
In this episode we chat with Diana Butler Bass. Diana Butler Bass is an award-winning author, popular speaker, inspiring preacher, and one of America’s most trusted commentators on religion and contemporary spirituality, especially where faith intersects with politics and culture. She holds a doctorate in religious studies from Duke University. Her bylines include The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN.com, Atlantic.com, USA Today, Huffington Post, Christian Century, and Sojourners. She has commented in the media widely including on CBS, CNN, PBS, NPR, CBC, FOX, Sirius XM, TIME, Newsweek, Rolling Stone, Mother Jones, and in multiple global news outlets. In the 1990s, she wrote a weekly column on religion and culture for the Santa Barbara News-Press, which was distributed nationally by the New York Times Syndicate. Diana's latest book Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence will be released in paperback on March 8, 2022. You can follow Diana on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out all things Diana Butler Bass related on her website You can purchase Freeing Jesus and all of Diana's other book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 62
Body Becoming: A Conversation with Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza
In this episode we chat with Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza. Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza is a TransQueer Activist, Latinx Scholar, and Politicized Theologian working in the borderlands of church and faith communities, social change movements, and higher education institutions. Important to note about Dr. Robyn is that they are a non-binary Transgender Latinx who is trained as a constructive philosophical theologian and holds a PhD in Religion from the University of Denver. They attended seminary at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary on the campus of Northwestern University. Dr. Robyn teaches in the field of theology and ethics, while also is engaged in the work of social change by participating in varying social justice projects. Dr. Robyn is the Founder of the Activist Theology Project, a collaborative project working to incubate sustainable change in innovative ways using advocacy, art, somatics, and story-telling. Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza new book Body Becoming: A Path To Our Liberation will be released on 3/29/22 You can follow Dr. Robyn on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Dr. Robyn related on their website You can purchase Dr. Robyn's books on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 63
Understanding the Enneagram: A Conversation with Ellen Compton
In this episode we chat with Ellen Compton. I will let Ellen introduce herself. Allow me to introduce myself with a few miscellaneous thoughts: I am a family-prioritizing, coffee-drinking, truth-telling, authenticity-seeking, list-making, God-following, world-loving, ambiverted, former closet writer. The words laid back have never been used to describe me. I am an unabashed over-user of hashtags and emojis. The message written on my heart is one of identity; I am passionate about living authentically as the person I was created to be and helping others to do likewise…even in the midst of this gauntlet that is life. I live on the east coast of Canada with my family. My teenagers are occasionally mind-boggling, and entirely magnificent. In addition to writing, I teach French to High School students…and all remaining hours are, quite literally, spent in my vehicle, driving the teenagers to hockey practices, rehearsals, horseback riding, and to visit friends. It’s a full, imperfect and wonderful life. You can connect with Ellen on: Facebook Instgram You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric! Her new book Good Things Happen In The Dark can be purchased on Amazon.com
Episode 64
Sledding Toward the Bumps: A Conversation with Amy Courts
In this episode we chat with Amy Courts. Amy Courts is a singer-songwriter, musician, writer, activist, and Seminarian based in Minneapolis, MN where she lives with her husband and son. Amy grew up in Denver, CO the youngest of four preacher's daughters and, after graduating in 2003 with her B.A. in Biblical Studies, moved to Nashville, TN where she independently produced and released two albums and toured with Jennifer Knapp and Derek Webb. After a near-death childbirth experience in 2011, she and her family moved to Minneapolis where she spent the next five years as a stay-home mom, worship leader, and singer-for-hire. In 2017, after a six year hiatus from creating and performing original music, she and her husband fulfilled a decade-long dream of co-creating and -producing a collaborative album as the duo Fireworks on Ferris Wheels for which they enjoyed critical acclaim and indie radio success. Amy also performs in a number of Twin Cities based bands, including with world-renowned guitarist Billy McLaughlin as part of Simple Gifts and Young and the Rest. In the fall of 2018, Amy was offered a full-ride scholarship to Luther Seminary in St. Paul, MN where she is currently earning her Master of Divinity in Justice & Reconciliation while working with numerous local arts-based, humanitarian, religious, and para-church organizations to address systemic injustices against marginalized communities through musical, theological, and political activism centered on economic, environmental, healthcare, and education justice. You can follow Amy on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Amy Courts on her website You can find her music on BandCamp You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 66
After Jesus Before Christianity: A Conversation with Erin Vearncombe, Brandon Scott, & Hal Taussig
In this episode we chat with the authors of the book - After Jesus Before Christianity. Dr. Erin K. Vearncombe is an Assistant Professor at the University of Toronto, appointed to the Office of the Dean. She received her Ph.D. in a collaborative program at the University of Toronto between the Department for the Study of Religion and the Anne Tanenbaum Centre for Jewish Studies. A specialist in writing instruction, Erin worked for five years as a faculty member of the Princeton Writing Program at Princeton University, and is currently designing a program for the Faculty of Arts and Science at the University of Toronto that will ease the transition to university-level writing for incoming undergraduate students. Her research specialty is the social origins and histories of Jesus movements in the first centuries of the common era, with a particular focus on practices of dress. Bernard Brandon Scott is the author and editor of many books, including The Real Paul: Recovering His Radical Challenge and The Trouble with Resurrection. A charter member of the Jesus Seminar, he is chair of Westar’s Christianity Seminar. He served as chair of the Bible in Ancient and Modern Media Section of the Society of Biblical Literature, as well as a member of several SBL Seminars including the Parable Seminar and Historical Jesus Seminar. He holds an A.B. from St. Meinrad Seminary and School of Theology, an M.A. from Miami University, and a Ph.D. from Vanderbilt University. Hal Taussig recently retired as Professor of New Testament at Union Theological Seminary in New York. He lectures around the country and world. The editor of the award-winning A New New Testament (2013), United Methodist minister, and author of fourteen books, his mediography includes The New York Times, Time Magazine, The Daily Show, People Magazine, Newsweek Magazine, National Public Radio, the Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC, the Bob Edwards Show on Sirius Radio, The History Channel, and the Washington Post. Check out the Westar Institute, home of the Jesus Seminar at this website You can purchase the book After Jesus Before Christianity at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 68
Becoming Home: A Conversation with Ben DeLong
In this episode we chat with Ben DeLong. Here is his bio in his own words: I was born in Iowa, grew up as a pastor’s kid, and eventually became a pastor myself. What I later learned was that becoming a pastor was my way of coping with wounds and trauma that had built up within me since childhood. I have since given up being a pastor and turned my focus to becoming an author. My lovely wife has been a steady presence in my life. We were married in 2005 and adopted our son in 2019. They have been the greatest teachers in my life as I’ve journeyed toward a greater sense of wholeness. I love writing, and I love exploring the inner journey. I combine these two passions in my books to help give people hope to make the next step in their own story. I invite you to explore my work and see what you are inspired to move toward in life. You can follow Ben on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find things all Ben DeLong related at his website You can purchase Ben's book at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter Want to help us with our future episodes of This Is Not Church Podcast? Join us on Patreon where you will get access to exclusive patron content such as early access to episode, videos of upcoming episodes, and live Q&A sessions. Also check out our website for upcoming interviews and blog posts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 74
How We Love Matters: A Conversation With Albert Tate
In this episode we chat with Albert Tate. Albert Tate is the founding and lead pastor of Fellowship Church in Los Angeles County California. He began his ministry pastoring just a few families at Sweet Home Church in Mississippi before serving the historic Lake Avenue Church in Pasadena, California. Hearing the call from God to plant a church, Albert and his wife, LaRosa, launched Fellowship Church in January 2012. In its short history, this gospel-centered, multiethnic, intergenerational church has already established a solid foothold in the region to the glory, honor, and transformational power of Christ. As a dynamic communicator, Albert is passionate about sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ both locally and globally. He serves on the Board of Trustees at Azusa Pacific University, the Global Leadership Network, and Global Church Planting Organization, Stadia. Albert is the Founder and CEO of The Greatest Story, Inc, and President of Harambee Ministries. He recently published his first book entitled, "How We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation". Albert is the proud father of four children: Zoe, Bethany, Isaac, and Micah. You can connect with Albert Tate on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find all things Albert Tate related at his Website You can purchase Albert's book How We Love Matter at Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 79
Purity Culture - The Shaming Of A Generation: A Conversation With Linda Kay Klein
In this episode we chat with Linda Kay Klein. Linda Kay Klein (she/her) is author of the award-winning book, Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. She is also a religious deconstruction & purity culture recovery coach, and the founder and president Break Free Together, a not-for-profit organization serving individuals recovering from gender- and sexuality-based religious trauma. Linda has spoken around the world from the TEDx stage to The Apollo’s Women of the World Festival. Her work has been featured by the New York Times, NPR, CBS, NBC, Elle Magazine, and over 150 other outlets. Linda is a trained Our Whole Lives (OWL) sexuality education facilitator, and holds an interdisciplinary Masters degree in gender, sexuality and religion from New York University. Linda has worked in the social change sector for over two decades. Her background includes founding a program on how to find and follow your purpose used in over 200 universities for the social entrepreneurship incubator, Echoing Green, and working with million dollar donors supporting women and girls through Women Moving Millions. Linda is married to a writer and social change agent who inspires her every day, and has a daughter in diapers and another in college. You can connect with Linda on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Linda Kay Klein related at her website You can purchase Linda's book on Amazon.com You can connect with us on Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 82
Silencing White Noise: A Conversation With Willie Dwayne Francois III
In this episode we chat with Willie Dwayne Francois III. Willie Dwayne Francois III (DMin, Candler School of Theology) is senior pastor of Mount Zion Baptist Church in Pleasantville, New Jersey, and president of the Black Church Center for Justice and Equality. He serves as assistant professor of liberation theology at New York Theological Seminary and directs a master’s degree program at Sing Sing Correctional Facility. He created the Public Love Organizing and Training (PLOT) Project and has served in various organizations engaging racial justice issues, including the Atlantic City chapter of Black Lives Matter, the Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference, and the NJ Department of State’s MLK Jr. Commission. Francois is an active speaker and has written for HuffPost , Sojourners , The Hill , the Christian Century , and Religion Dispatches. Willie's book Silencing White Noise: Six Practices to Overcome Our Inaction on Race will be released on 8/16/22. You can connect with Willie on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Willie Dwayne Francois III is Senior Pastor of Mount Zion Baptist church You can purchase Silencing White noise at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 87
Signs Of Change: A Conversation With Anthony Bartlett
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people. In this episode we chat with Anthony Bartlett. Anthony Bartlett read philosophy and theology at Heythrop Athaneum in Oxfordshire, England, and at London University. Following his ordination to the Roman Catholic priesthood he spent a year studying in Rome.After ten years of ministry, he resigned the official priesthood. In this period of transition he lived in a community of prayer near Assisi in Italy, under the guidance of writer and teacher, Carlo Carretto. The experience around Carretto welcomed many different individuals at the crossroads of traditional Catholicism and the search for fresh perspective and spiritual practice. It was natural that news of a major recent book by René Girard and his extraordinary cross-disciplinary understanding of Christianity should arrive among members of this group. The seed of information planted then eventually matured into contact between Tony and James Williams, professor of the Hebrew Bible in the Syracuse University Department of Religion and prominent Girardian scholar. With Williams' support and encouragement Tony was accepted for doctoral studies in the Department,emigrating to the U.S. with his family, and gaining his degree in 1999. As well as being a founding member of Wood Hath Hope he is the author of numerous articles and books, including Virtually Christian, How Christ Changes Human Meaning and Makes Creation New, and Signs of Change(March, 2022) You can connect with Anthony on: Facebook Instagram Check out Anthon's blog post on his website Hope In Time You can purchase Anthony's books on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 90
Bringing Up Kids When Church Lets You Down: A Conversation With Bekah McNeel
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people. In this episode we chat with Bekah McNeel Bekah Stolhandske McNeel is a native of San Antonio, Texas, where she has been a reporter for nine years. Her work has appeared in print with Christianity Today, The San Antonio Current, and the Public Justice Review, as well as online with the Christian Science Monitor, Sojourners, the Texas Tribune, the Hechinger Report, The 74 Million, and numerous local outlets. Known for her ability to communicate the high stakes of education and immigration policy and bring clarity to complex systems, Bekah keeps the human beings most affected at the front of her coverage. Bekah is a graduate of the London School of Economics, where she earned a MSc in Media Studies. She is married to Lewis McNeel, an architect with Lake | Flato. They have two young children who, while they do not yet have careers, are very busy. You can connect with Bekah Mcneel on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Bekah McNeel related at her website You can purchase Bekah McNeel's book at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 93
Holding On Loosely: A Conversation With Pablo Giacopelli
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Apostates Anonymous - the show you turn to when you can no longer call yourself an Evangelical. In this episode we chat with Pablo Giacopelli Pablo Giacopelli has been involved on high performance environments since an early age first as a player and later as a coach. He has had the opportunity to successfully coach some of the best female players in the world of tennis. He was selected to be the tennis team Captain for Estonia on the 2008 Beijing Olympics. His pupils successes have ranged from quarter final showings at Grand Slams to winning major WTA events to top 10 yearly race rankings. He is a certified personal and professional performance coach by the Coach U Institute. He is also a certified Professional Performance Tennis Coach and has been trained in Sports Psychology. Pablo has traveled around the world and speaks four languages. He has been a guest speaker at various conferences and seminars around the world. Lately, Pablo has been coaching people, under the banner of UXL, from all walks of life to discover their personal and professional potentials. Pablo is married to Madeleine and has been based in Tel Aviv, Israel for the last 3 years. He is the father of five children Vanessa, Jake, Mia, Gisella, and Anabella. You can follow Pablo on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out the website for The Zone Project You can purchase Pablo's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 100
Unapologetically Alison: A Conversation With Alison Fabricius
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Ideas Digest : Break Your Bias. In this episode we chat with Alison Fabricius Alison assists over-performing post-millennials to gather and own their scattered souls by helping them to understand that another’s story of them is not theirs. As a trusted guide from the trenches, she helps them to face institutions, authority figures and power dynamics in order to realize that what they have to offer is just what the world needs. She does this through her books, speaking and corporate consulting. When she’s not teaching, she can be found crocheting, reading, or randomly dying her hair (a subtle sign of a war well-fought). Alison's book Unapologetically Alison: Because Their Version Of Her Had To Go was released Nov. 2022 You can connect with Alison on: Facebook Instagram Youtube You can find all things Alison Fabricius related on her website You can purchase Alison's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 101
Out Of The Embers: A Conversation With Brad Jersak
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Ideas Digest : Break Your Bias. In this episode we chat with Brad Jersak Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He currently serves as the Dean of Theology & Culture at St. Stephen’s University in New Brunswick and teaches peace studies courses with Institute For Religion, Peace, and Justice and is a regular speaker with the Open Table Conference crew. He writes regularly for the Clarion Journal and CRW Magazine. Through his books and seminars, Brad shares the good news that God is Love, perfectly revealed in Jesus Christ, and that God’s love heals wounded hearts and empowers us to heal this broken world. Brad's books include A More Christlike God, A More Christlike Way, A More Christlike Word, and his latest book Out Of The Embers. You can connect with Brad on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Youtube You can find all things Brad Jersak related on his website You can purchase Brad's book at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 103
Kissing With Eyes Wide Open: A Conversation With Kendana Kay
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Returning To Eden: A Field Guide For The Spiritual Journey. The book will be available 2/22/23 In this episode we chat with Kendana Kay Kendana Kay is a relationship coach who facilitates breakthroughs for those exhausted and disappointed from not experiencing the relational joy they crave. She is a veteran worship leader, musician, and licensed minister. Kendana has earned certifications in Elijah House and Theophostics inner healing modalities, as a Health Coach, and as a John Maxwell Team speaker, trainer, and coach. She is the mother of 10 children and has been homeschooling for over 35 years. Her husband of 38 years, Johnny, passed away in 2021. Kendana lives in Olathe, Kansas where she continues to homeschool her two youngest children. You can connect with Kendana on Facebook Instagram You can find all things Kendana Kay related at her website You can purchase Kendana's book at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 104
Building The Church As A Family: A Conversation With Gary Grant
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by the Quoir book The Joy Of Letting Go: How One Thing Has The Power To Change Everything by Kevin Sweeney In this episode we chat with Gary Grant Born in Harare, Zimbabwe and educated in South Africa it was at age of seventeen in the midst of a revival movement in the 1980's that Gary encountered God. As a result the miraculous power of God has been a constant throughout his adult life shaping Gary into who is today. In 1994 Gary along with his family immigrated to Australia with a passion to establish strong communities of faith. Gary alongside his wife Debbie are currently the senior leaders of the Friends First community in Melbourne. They have travelled extensively preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom message in Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Sri Lanka, South Korea and India. They have two grown children; Joel married to Lana and David married to Dahna, and now a beautiful grand-daughter Emily. You can connect with Gary on Facebook You can check out the website for Friends First Church here You can request a copy of Gray Grants book here You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 106
Falling Upward: A Conversation With Noel Sanger
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Apostates Anonymous - the show you turn to when you can no longer call yourself an Evangelical. In this episode we chat with Noel Sanger Noel Sanger may have flown mostly under the mainstream radar, but he has cultivated a rich musical history along the way. Releasing on some of dance music’s top labels, with a recent focus on his own Dissident Music imprint, Noel’s productions make regular appearances in Beatport’s top ten genre charts, and see support from the world’s top DJs. Over the years, his work has been heard on labels such as Black Hole, Spinnin’, Armada, Perfecto, High Contrast, Lost Language, Coldharbour, Mute, Dissident and dozens more. He has remixed and worked with artists like Erasure, Nadia Ali, John Taylor of Duran Duran, Matt Darey, Soul In The Machine (with Twin Peaks star Chrysta Bell), and Markus Schulz. Evolving to deeper sounds, Noel’s label, Dissident Music, was first launched in 2007 and produced a number of hits throughout the ensuing 7 years. Recently relaunched as part of Miami’s Essential Media Group, Dissident has gone from strength to strength, with nearly a dozen Beatport top ten chart showings in as many months. As a DJ, this one-time Tiesto tour-mate has manned the booth at some of the world’s best clubs and festivals, sharing the stage with some of electronic music’s top names. It isn’t always the case that after this many years, an underground artist remains as creative and relevant as Noel has. But between his productions, his label, and his expertise behind the decks, Noel is proving without question that the best is yet to come. You can connect with Noel on: Facebook Instagram Bandcamp You can find all things Noel Sanger related on his website You can listen to Noel Sanger's music on Spotify You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 107
Stepping Into It: A Conversation With Bethany Cseh
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Returning To Eden: A Field Guide For The Spiritual Journey by Heather Hamilton. The book releases Feb. 22, 2023, but is available for pre-order now. In this episode we chat with Bethany Cseh Bethany grew up in a Christian family and met Jason in college at Hume Lake. They married in 2001 and helped plant Catalyst in 2006. It was during that time she discovered her love for preaching and teaching the Word of God while discipling those Jesus keeps bringing her way. She is mom to Isaac, Emily, and Antonio. She's an avid runner, is a foster and adoptive parent, loves Jesus and people, and enjoys spending time at the river. She is currently working towards her Masters of Divinity at Claremont School of Theology. Bethany has written two books - Stepping Into Advent and Stepping Into Lent. She is currently working on a third book. You can connect with Bethany on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Bethany Cseh related at her website You can connect with Catalyst Church at their website You can purchase Bethany's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 109
Curveball: A Conversation With Pete Enns
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The New Evangelicals : Pushing the Evangelical Church forward and to re-think how it approaches key cultural issues. In this episode we chat with Pete Enns Dr. Peter Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, PA. He has taught courses at several other institutions including Harvard University, Fuller Theological Seminary, and Princeton Theological Seminary. Enns is a frequent contributor to journals and encyclopedias, and is the author of several books, including, The Bible Tells Me So: Why Defending Scripture Has Made Us Unable to Read It, The Bible and the Believer: How to Read the Bible Critically and Religiously, Inspiration and Incarnation: Evangelicals and The Problem of the Old Testament, and The Evolution of Adam: What the Bible Does and Doesn't Say about Human Origins. Pete's latest book Curveball: When Your Faith Takes Turns You Never Saw Coming (Or How I Stumbled And Tripped My Way To Finding A Bigger God) was released Feb 7, 2024 You can connect With Pete Enns on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find all things Pete Enns related on his website check out Pete's Podcast The Bible For Normal People You can Pete's new book Curveball on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 110
Returning To Eden: A Conversation With Heather Hamilton
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Returning To Eden: A Field Guide For The Spiritual Journey by Heather Hamilton. The book releases Feb. 22, 2023, but is available for pre-order now. In this episode we chat with Heather Hamilton Heather Hamilton received her B.A. in Journalism from Georgia State University and spent many years doing video production before discovering her love of writing. After filming and editing stories with people from all over the world—celebrities, orphans, religious leaders, royal family members, political figures, and everyday people—Heather recognized the common threads and themes intertwining all humans across religions, cultures, classes, and demographics. She is passionate about fostering human connection through storytelling, writing, art, and exchanging ideas. She lives in Atlanta with her husband and three children. Heather's new book Returning To Eden was released by Quoir on Feb 22, 2023. You can connect with Heather on Facebook Instagram TikTok You can find all things Heather Hamilton on her website You can purchase Heather's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 111
Hearts Ablaze: A Conversation With Rolf Nolasco
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The Reconstrucionist by Jonathan Foster published by Quoir. The book is available now on Amazon In this episode we chat with Rolf Nolasco Dr. Rolf R. Nolasco, Jr. is Rueben P. Job Professor of Spiritual Formation and Pastoral Theology at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary in Evanston, Il USA. As a queer person of color whose country of origin is the Philippines, Rolf works at the intersection of critical and liberative psychology, theology, spirituality, and affective neuroscience to address the complexity of the human condition and the potential for human flourishing. He is the author of The Contemplative Counselor: A Way of Being, Compassionate Presence: A Radical Response to Human Sufferings, God’s Beloved Queer, and Hearts Ablaze: Parables For The Queer Soul. He lives in Evanston, Illinois. You can connect with Rolf on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find more info on Rolf Nolasco at the Garret Website You can purchase Hearts Ablaze at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 112
The Unfolding: A Conversation With Arielle Estoria
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The Wisdom Of Hobbits by Matthew Distefano published by Quoir. The book will release March 14, 2023 In this episode we chat with Arielle Estoria Born and raised in foggy Northern California and now residing in Los Angeles CA, Arielle ​Estoria (she/her) is a Poet, Author and Actor. Her motto, "Words not for the ears but for the soul" stems from her dedication to remind anyone who encounters her and her work that words are meant to be felt and experienced not just heard. With a specific heart in empowering, encouraging and making space for audiences of women to feel at home in their own bodies. Arielle has shared her work through custom spoken word pieces, workshops and themed keynote talks with companies such as Google, Sofar Sounds, Lululemon, Dressember, Tedx, the SKIMS campaign by Kim Kardashian and more. She has consecutively emceed annual conferences and has led various writing, embodiment and self-acceptance workshops in various settings ranging from students to professional development spaces. Arielle's latest book The Unfolding: An Invitation To Come Home To Yourself was released on March 7, 2023 You can connect with Arielle on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok YouTube You can find all things Arielle Estoria related on her website Check out one of the movie shorts Arielle is in on Youtube You can purchase Arielle's latest book The Unfolding on Amazon.com You can purchase Hearts Ablaze at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 113
The Wisdom Of Hobbits: A Conversation With Matthew Distefano
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Safer Than The Known Way by Maria Francesca French published by Quoir. The book is available now on Amazon. In this episode we chat with Matthew Distefano Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including the wildly popular Heretic! and From the Blood of Abel. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico, and has been in social work for over a decade, currently working as a Professional Service Coordinator in Butte County, California. In addition to his professional life, Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter. You can connect with Matthew on: Facebook Instagram TikTok You can find all things Matthew Distefano related on his website You can purchase Matthew's new book The Wisdom Of Hobbits on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 114
The First Nation Version: A Conversation With Terry Wildman
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Drugs And Jesus by Joshua Lawson published by Quoir. The book will be available April 11, 2023 on Amazon In this episode we chat with Terry Wildman Terry Wildman, born and raised in Michigan, is of Ojibwe and Yaqui ancestry. Terry is an author, recording artist, songwriter, storyteller, and public speaker. He is the Lead Translator and Project Manager of the First Nations Version New Testament published by IinterVarsity Press and the "Chief" of Rain Ministries, a nonprofit organization based in Arizona, Terry has also been the Director of Spiritual Growth and Leadership Development with Native InterVarsity since June of 2020. Beginning in the year 2000 Terry and his wife Darlene have invested their lives in sharing the message of Jesus with the First Nations people of Turtle Island (North America). You can follow Terry on: Facebook Twitter LinkedIn YouTube To find all things First Nations Version check out the website You can purchase the First Nations Version on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 117
Drugs And Jesus: A Conversation With Joshua Lawson
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The Story Of Christianity Told As Good News For All by Ric Machuga published by Quoir. The book is available now on Amazon. In this episode we chat with Joshua Lawson Josh Lawson lives with his family in Wheelersburg Ohio, where he serves his community in a variety of roles as recovery program coordinator for the Shawnee State University Kricker Innovation Hub. He works to connect people in recovery with entrepreneurial skills and services that will help them succeed in life. He also chairs the faith-based sub community of Scioto Connect the counties local opioid consortium where he consults with faith communities on how to support people who use drugs and those in recovery. As an author he recently published his first book The Face of Addiction which tells the story of 12 people in Southern Ohio who have been impacted by the opioid overdose crisis. In his follow up book Drugs and Jesus which is set to release in 2022 will be the first of its kind to present a call to action for people of faith to engage in the work of harm reduction. You can connect with Joshua on: Facebook LinkedIn YouTube You can find all things Joshua Lawson related on his website You can purchase Drugs & Jesus on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 118
Too Much And Not Enough: A Conversation With Karen Shock
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The Messy Spirituality Podcast who is all about finding God in unexpected places. In this episode we chat with Karen Shock Karen Shock’s love for writing began when she received her first diary as a young girl. The lock and key made it easy for her to tell the diary some honest, dramatic truths about herself. All these years later, she still loves to put pen to paper and write out her deepest longings, wildest dreams, and biggest fears. The only difference now is there is no longer a lock and key on her thoughts. As time went on, she began to understand that putting the truth out there for the whole world to read might be scary, but the vulnerability was worth the risk. She wants readers to know that they are not alone. Karen lives in Fort Wayne, Indiana with her husband Kevin. They have four adult children, 4 grandchildren and one on the way. She is currently a writer for Patheos and has her first book, Too Much and Not Enough, coming out on April 18th. You can connect with Karen on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find all things Karen Shock related on her website You can purchase Too Much and Not Enough on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 119
Asian American Apostate: A Conversation With Scott Okamoto
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Letting Go(d) by Aaron Simnowitz published by Quoir. The book is available now on Amazon. In this episode we chat with Scott Okamoto Scott is a 4th generation Japanese American writer and musician who grew up in Southern California. He grew up in a conservative Christian family and church community but deconstructed his faith culminating in a complete loss of all religious belief while teaching English at an evangelical university. His debut book, Asian American Apostate: Losing Religion and Finding Myself at an Evangelical University tells this story of faith deconstruction while simultaneously building an identity as an Asian American in community with artists and activists which included beloved tv stars, comedians, writers, and rock stars. You can connect with Scott on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok You can find all things Scott Okamoto related on his website You can purchase Asian American Apostate on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 121
Inside The Evangelical Movement: A Conversation With Jon Ward
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by the Awaken 2023 Conference - A safe place to deconstruct your faith. Join us June 9th and 10th In this episode we chat with Jon Ward Jon Ward is senior political correspondent for Yahoo News, author of "Camelot's End: Kennedy v Carter and the Fight that Broke the Democratic Party" (Twelve Books, 2019), and host of “The Long Game” podcast. He has covered American politics and culture for two decades, as a city desk reporter in Washington D.C., as a White House correspondent who traveled aboard Air Force One to Africa, Europe and the Middle East, and as a national affairs correspondent who has traveled the country to write about two presidential campaigns and the ideas and people animating our times. He has been published in The Washington Post, The New Republic, Politico Magazine, Vanity Fair, The Huffington Post, and The Washington Times. You can connect with Jon Ward on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Jon Ward related on his You can purchase Testimony on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 122
The Qur'an A Contemporary Understanding: A Conversation With Safi Kaskas
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Religious Refugees: (De)Constructing Toward Spiritual And Emotional Healing by Mark Karris, published by Quoir. The book is available now. In this episode we chat with Safi Kaskas Safi Kaskas is an administrator in the managerial sciences with over 40 years of broad-based experience in strategic planning, leadership and business ethics with an emphasis on strategic management in the corporate and academic worlds. He is a co-founder of East West University in Chicago, Illi., and was elected as President of its Board of Directors from 1979 – 2005. As the Founder and President of Strategic Edge Management Consultants, Dr. Kaskas helped many mid-level and large corporations successfully develop their business portfolios. His consultant firm focused on strategic development within the health care industry and founded the American Strategic Healthcare Management Company (ASHM) which owns diagnostic centers in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. In addition to his focus on strategic management sciences, Dr. Kaskas has studied Abrahamic religions and lectured throughout the US and Saudi Arabia on subjects related to Islam, interfaith and reconciliation between Evangelicals and American Muslims. You can connect with Safi Kaskas on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Safi Kaskas related on his website You can purchase Safi's books on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 124
Safer Than The Known Way: A Conversation With Maria Francesca French
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Heretic Happy Hour. Whose tagline is burning questions not people. In this episode we chat with Maria Francesca French As a post-Christian thinker and writer, Maria Francesca French has spent the tenure of her career in theological education as both professor and administrator, holding two MAs and a DMin. Maria has worked in innovative church contexts, planting, and denominational leadership focused on the intersections of faith and culture. Offering new forums for faith engagement and theological imagination that are viable and sustainable for an uncertain future, exploring Radical Theology and post-theist thought for the present and future of faith. Her new book Safer Than The Known Way is available now. You can connect with Maria on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find all things Maria Francesca French related on her website You can purchase Maria's book Safer Than The Known Way on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 125
Between Mercy And Me: A Conversation With Craig Lamar Brown and Andrea Summer
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by Used To Go To Church: Rethinking God On The Frontlines Of Life's Tragedies - By Nick Vleisdes - Published by Quoir and availalbe now on Amazon.com In This episode we chat with Craig Lamar Brown and Andrea Summer about thier upcoming movie - Between Mercy and Me Craig Lamar Brown is a multi-talented film producer, writer and director hailing from Detroit. He is the founder of Brown Brown Films, a production company dedicated to creating inspirational and artistically captivating stories. Craig's passion for storytelling began to take shape in his high school years. Then his versatility was showcased in David Leo Schultz's Ragamuffin Trilogy, God's Fool, where he produced and played the leading role. Today, Craig crafts from behind the camera, making his directorial debut film, Between Mercy and Me, an award-winning film. Craig currently resides in Cincinnati with his wife Caitlin and their five daughters where they enjoy the outdoors, building community and creating. Andrea Summer is a Cincinnati-based singer-songwriter, music producer and actress. She is a passionate creative collaborator and mother of three. Beyond her personal music releases, she has co-created and performed in powerful live experiences, such as The Awaited Show (2007-2019). In 2021 she co-wrote and starred in the film Between Mercy And Me. She also wrote and co-produced the original, award-winning soundtrack and score. Between Mercy and Me is her first feature-length project. You can connect with both Craig and Andrea on Instagram You can connect with Between Mercy and Me on: Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube You can find all things Between Mercy and Me related on the website You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 126
Pride Rebroadcast - F**K Off God: A Brutally Honest Conversation With PK Langley
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by Go Wide:Reimagining The Landscape Of Theology - by Martha Elias Downey. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we talk with PK Langley. PK Langley is married to her wife and best friend of 22 years, Ashley. They have a son and daughter in love and a lovely grandson. PK is an ordained pastor who spent 30 years in church ministry and as a senior pastor. She has travelled internationally, preaching and teaching conferences to crowds in the thousands. She is an author and is currently pursuing her licensure as a mental health clinician. PK is passionate about seeing people find their distinction in life. PK is also a healer and functions in gifts that help dislodge those things that prevent people from finding their true selves. You can follow PK on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find PK's blog posts on Patheos You can Purchase PK's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 127
Defending Democracy From Its Christian Enemies: A Conversation With David Gushee
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by Sola Deus by Keith Giles. Published by Quoir and available now. In This Episode we talk to David Gushee Dr. David P. Gushee (PhD, Union Theological Seminary, New York) is Distinguished University Professor of Christian Ethics at Mercer University, Chair of Christian Social Ethics at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, and Senior Research Fellow, International Baptist Theological Study Centre. Gushee is the elected Past-President of both the American Academy of Religion and the Society of Christian Ethics, signaling his role as one of America’s leading Christian ethicists. He is the author, co-author, editor, or co-editor of more than 27 books and approximately 175 book chapters, journal articles, and reviews. His most recognized works before 2014 include Righteous Gentiles of the Holocaust, Kingdom Ethics, The Sacredness of Human Life. With his 2014 book Changing Our Mind and then After Evangelicalism, he has been charting a theological course for post-evangelical Christians, a course he more personally relates in his memoir, Still Christian, and subsequently maps out a new approach to Christian ethics in the accessible Introducing Christian Ethics. Altogether his books have sold over 100,000 copies and been translated into a dozen languages. You can follow David Gushee on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things David Gushee related on his website You can preorder Defending Democracy From Its Christian Enemies on Amazon.com It will release October 3, 2023 You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 128
Pride Rebroadcast - In The Margins: A Conversation With Father Shannon Kearns
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Church Can Go to Hell by Desimber Rose, published by Quoir , and is available now. In this episode we chat with Father Shannon Kearns. Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of QueerTheology.com, which has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. You can connect with Father Shannon on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok Find all things Father Shannon Kearns related at his website Check out the website for Queertheology.com You can buy Shannon's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 130
Pride Rebroadcast - Hearts Ablaze: A Conversation With Rolf Nolasco
This Quoircast Podcast episode is brought to you by The Reconstrucionist by Jonathan Foster published by Quoir. The book is available now on Amazon In this episode we chat with Rolf Nolasco Dr. Rolf R. Nolasco, Jr. is Rueben P. Job Professor of Spiritual Formation and Pastoral Theology at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary in Evanston, Il USA. As a queer person of color whose country of origin is the Philippines, Rolf works at the intersection of critical and liberative psychology, theology, spirituality, and affective neuroscience to address the complexity of the human condition and the potential for human flourishing. He is the author of The Contemplative Counselor: A Way of Being, Compassionate Presence: A Radical Response to Human Sufferings, God’s Beloved Queer, and Hearts Ablaze: Parables For The Queer Soul. He lives in Evanston, Illinois. You can connect with Rolf on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can find more info on Rolf Nolasco at the Garret Website You can purchase Hearts Ablaze at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners: Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 131
Sola Deus: A Conversation With Keith Giles
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by The Joy of Letting Go by Kevin Sweeney. Published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we talk with Keith Giles Keith Giles is a former pastor who left the pulpit to follow Jesus and start a house church where no one takes a salary and 100 percent of all offerings are given to help the poor in the community. He has been a published writer since 1989. He is the author of several books, including: "Jesus Unbound: Liberating the Word of God from the Bible" and "Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb." Keith is the co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast which has featured interviews with Bart Ehrman, John Fugelsang, Richard Rohr, Brad Jersak, Greg Boyd, and many others. Keith also teaches several online courses including "Square 1: From Deconstruction to Reconstruction" and other courses based on his many books. You can follow Keith on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can check out Keiths blog on his website You can purchase Sola Deus at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 136
Dear Mama God: A Conversation With Daneen Akers
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by Too Much and Not Enough by Karen Shock - published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we talk with Daneen Akers Daneen Akers loves the gloaming, the time of day when it’s starting to grow dark and there’s magic in the air. She’s also very fond of books, walks in the woods, songs around a campfire, snuggles with her daughters, and large pots of hot beverages enjoyed with friends. She is the author of the picture book "Dear Mama God", a warm, wonder-filled prayer of gratitude from a child. Combining stunning illustrations with simple yet profound prayers, "Dear Mama God" is the perfect children's book to introduce children (and their adults) to the liberating and heart-expanding world of referring to the divine in feminine form. Daneen lives near Asheville, North Carolina, with her family. Most mornings, she’s woken up by an enthusiastic Carolina Wren outside her window. You can follow Daneen on: Twitter Instagram You can purchase Dear Mama God on amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 137
July Rebroadcast - Purity Culture - The Shaming Of A Generation: A Conversation With Linda Kay Klein
This Quoircast podcast is brought to you by I Am My Own Sanctuary by Meg Calvin. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with Linda Kay Klein. Linda Kay Klein (she/her) is author of the award-winning book, Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free. She is also a religious deconstruction & purity culture recovery coach, and the founder and president Break Free Together, a not-for-profit organization serving individuals recovering from gender- and sexuality-based religious trauma. Linda has spoken around the world from the TEDx stage to The Apollo’s Women of the World Festival. Her work has been featured by the New York Times, NPR, CBS, NBC, Elle Magazine, and over 150 other outlets. Linda is a trained Our Whole Lives (OWL) sexuality education facilitator, and holds an interdisciplinary Masters degree in gender, sexuality and religion from New York University. Linda has worked in the social change sector for over two decades. Her background includes founding a program on how to find and follow your purpose used in over 200 universities for the social entrepreneurship incubator, Echoing Green, and working with million dollar donors supporting women and girls through Women Moving Millions. Linda is married to a writer and social change agent who inspires her every day, and has a daughter in diapers and another in college. You can follow with Linda on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Linda Kay Klein related at her website You can purchase Linda's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 138
Ridiculous And Ill-Advised: A Conversation With Rale Sidebottom
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by Returning to Eden by Heather Hamilton - published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we talk with Rale Sidebottom Rale is a storyteller from the American underground, writing about skateboarding, film fiascos and dropout culture across three decades. Starting out in documentary film at The NW Film Center before moving to Los Angeles, Rale has worked as a story editor for multiple production companies. His screenplays and original pilots have been optioned and short-listed for many competitions, the Sundance Pilot lab, Shore Scripts and Austin Film Festival being a few. His latest book Ridiculous and Ill Advised is available now wherever fine books are sold. You can follow Rale on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok YouTube You can find all things Rale Sidebottom related on his website You can purchase Ridiculous And Ill-Advised at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 139
Reclaiming Sexuality: A Conversation With Jeremiah Gibson From Sexvangelicals
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by the Deadly Faith Podcast - Exploring where Religion and Crime Collide. Deadly Faith is one of our partners in Quoircast. Please like and follow the. In this episode we talk with Jeremiah Gibson Sexvangelicals is a podcast, educational platform, and community building project created by Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson. We are both sex and couples therapists in the Boston area. We both grew up in religious communities. While these contexts provided us with meaningful values of compassion and kindness, they did not prepare us for accessing sexuality and intimacy. What transpired was a beautiful process of unlearning shameful and fear-based messages about sexuality, relearning new and relational sexual patterns, and healing from the ways that our Christian communities got it wrong. You can follow Sexvangelicals on: Facebook Instagram You can find all things Sexvangelicals at their website Like and follow their podcast Sexvangelicals You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 141
The Death Of Omnipotence: A Conversation With Thomas Jay Oord
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by Ideas Digest Podcast - Break you bias In the episode we chat with Thomas Jay Oord Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author or editor of more than thirty books and an award-winning professor. Oord directs the Northwind Theological Seminary doctoral program in Open and Relational Theology and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, issues in science and religion, and freedom for transformation. He has been president of several scholarly societies and lectures at institutions, events, and churches around the globe. You can follow Thomas on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Thomas Jay Oord related on his website You can purchase The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence on Amazom.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 142
August Rebroadcast - Good Things Happen In This Episode: A Conversation With Ellen Compton
This Quoircast Podcast episode it brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction: One Troublemaker's Journey From Religious Certainty to Liberating Doubt by Nat Turney - published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we talk with Ellen Compton Ellen is a family-prioritizing individual, known for her love of coffee and commitment to truth-telling. With a fervent desire for authenticity, Ellen navigates life as an avid list-maker and follower of God. He affection for the world around her is evident, yet she finds solace in her ambiverted nature, having emerged from her former identity as a closet writer. The phrase "laid back" has never found its place in describing Ellen, as she unapologetically employs an abundance of hashtags and emojis in her communication. Ellen’s heart carries a resounding message of identity, fueling her passion to lead an authentic life in alignment with their true self, while tirelessly aiding others on their similar journeys – even amid life's relentless challenges. Residing on the picturesque east coast of Canada, Ellen shares this enchanting abode with her family. The enigmatic teenagers they parent prove to be both perplexing and wondrous in their ways. Beyond her literary pursuits, Ellen also imparts the knowledge of French to eager high school students. The majority of her hours are harmoniously devoted to chauffeuring the teenagers to their various pursuits – hockey practices, rehearsals, horseback riding, and joyful rendezvous with friends. Ellen’s existence is an embodiment of fullness, an ode to imperfection, and an exaltation of the splendid tapestry that life weaves. You can follow Ellen on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can purchase Good Things Happen In The Dark on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 143
The Seeds Of De(con)struction: A Conversation With Nat Turney
This Quoircast podcast episode it brought to you by The New Evangelicals Podcast - Who is here to push the Evangelical Church forward and to re-think how it approaches key cultural issues. In this episode we chat with Nat Turney Nat Turney is a former worship leader, pastor, and church planter. He is an author and the co-host of the “This is Not Church” podcast on the Quoircast network. He and his wife live in west Texas where they own a coffee shop and enjoy spending time with their four adult children and three grandsons. Nat is an avid reader and self-described autodidact. His formal education is in foreign languages, but he is well versed in systematic theology, Girardian theory, open and relational theology and Patristics. Nat’s passion is the recovery of the gospel that has been diluted and corrupted by the institutional church and westernized, consumerist evangelicalism. His first book was written specifically to guide those who are seeking a more genuine path and a more Christlike faith. You can follow Nat on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok Follow and listen to Nat and Jon's podcast This Is Not Church You can purchase Nat's book The Seeds Of De(con)struction on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 145
Sacred Strides: A Conversation With Justin McRoberts
This Quoircast podcast episode it brought to you by The Wisdom of Hobbits by Matthew Distefano - Published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we chat with Justin McRoberts Justin McRoberts is an author, coach, speaker, and songwriter. He is the author of six books, including the upcoming, Sacred Strides (May 2023). For over 20 years, Justin has helped artists, ministers, and entrepreneurs find their way. From the stage, through his stories in books or during coaching sessions, he leans on his years of work and expertise as a minister and artist to help individuals and teams solve problems in their creative processes. When he’s not writing, speaking, or coaching, you can find him as the host of the At Sea Podcast. He lives in the East San Francisco Bay Area. You can follow Justin on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You find all things Justin McRoberts on his website You can purchase Sacred Strides on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 147
Discovering Fire: A Conversation With Roger Wolsey
This Quoircast podcast episode it brought to you by The Messy Spirituality Podcast - conversations about life, God, spirituality, and becoming a better human. In this episode we chat with Roger Wolsey Roger Wolsey is a seasoned speaker, having presented at The Wild Goose Festival on three separate occasions, as well as The Embrace Festival, The Lion and The Lamb Festival, and Christianity 21. He is an accomplished blogger, having written for notable publications such as Elephant Journal, Huffington Post, and, most recently, Patheos, where he writes under the moniker "The Holy Kiss." Roger is also a published author, having written two books titled Discovering Fire and Kissing Fish. He is the administrator of the Kissing Fish Facebook fan-page and a contributing writer for the John Shelby Spong weekly newsletter, "Progressing Spirit." Additionally, Roger serves on the Board of Directors of ProgressiveChristianity.org. You can follow Roger on: Facebook Instagram Youtube You can find all things Roger Wolsey on his website You can purchase Discovering Fire on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 148
September Rebroadcast - Q & Eh with Wm Paul Young & Brad Jersak
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. The book is published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we chat with Wm Paul Young and Brad Jersak William Paul Young was born in Canada and raised among a Stone Age tribe by his missionary parents in the highlands of former New Guinea. He suffered great loss as a child and young adult and now enjoys the “wastefulness of grace” with his family in the Pacific Northwest. He is the author of Lies We Believe About God and the New York Times bestsellers The Shack , Cross Roads , and Eve. Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He currently serves as the Principal of St. Stephen’s University (SSU.ca) in New Brunswick, where he continues as the Director and faculty member of SSU’s School of Theology & Culture. He also teaches peace studies courses with JFI.SSU.ca and is a regular speaker with the Open Table Conference crew. He writes regularly for the Clarion Journal and CWR magazine. Through his books and seminars, Brad shares the good news that God is Love, perfectly revealed in Jesus Christ, and that God’s love heals wounded hearts and empowers us to heal this broken world. You can follow Wm Paul Young on: Facebook Instagram You can follow Brad Jersak on: Facebook Instagram Twitter You can find all things Wm Paul Young on his website You can find all things Brad Jersak related on his website You can purchase The Pastor: A Crisis on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 149
Disobedient Women: A Conversation With Sarah Stankorb
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by Divine Echoes by Mark Karris. The book is published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we chat with Sarah Stankorb Sarah Stankorb is a journalist, essayist, and the author of Disobedient Women. She was born near Youngstown, Ohio, and often found escape in books. She studied world religions and philosophy at Westminster College, a place surrounded by rolling Pennsylvania farm country. A chance to study abroad in Northern Ireland, then Israel further opened her eyes to how faith (and conflict) can shape people’s everyday existence. She earned her master’s degree from University of Chicago’s Divinity School, where she studied ethics and South Asian religion and history. Hundreds of her pieces have been featured in publications, including: VICE, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, The New York Times, The Guardian, The New Republic, Cosmopolitan, Marie Claire, and others. Her beat spans religion, politics, gender, and power, but is informed by questions of basic morality. Sarah lives in Ohio with her husband and two children, and she writes a few times a month about the quirks of American faith at In Polite Company via Substack. You can follow Sarah on: Instagram Threads Twitter Substack You can find all things Sarah Stankorb on her website You can purchase Sarah's book Disobedient Women on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 151
More Than I Imagined: A Conversation With John Blake
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by There Once Were Orange Groves by David Giles. The book is published by Quoir and is available on 9/19/23 In this episode we chat with John Blake John Blake is an award-winning journalist at CNN.com, the online site for CNN. He is also the author of “More Than I Imagined: What a Black Man Discovered About the White Mother He Never Knew.” He has been honored by the Associated Press, the Society of Professional Journalists, the American Academy of Religion, the National Association of Black Journalists, the Religion Communicators Council and with the GLAAD Media Award. He was most recently the winner of the 2019 Sigma Delta Chi awards for Excellence in Journalism for his online columns on race and politics. His 2020 essay, “There’s One Epidemic We May Never Find a Cure For: Fear of Black Men in Public Spaces,” was recently selected by Bustle Digital Group as one of the 11 best essays on racism and police violence. The other authors on that list included Ta-Nehisi Coates, Ibram X. Kendi, and Roxane Gay. Blake’s first book, “Children of the Movement,” was a finalist for the 2005 NAACP Image Awards in the Outstanding Literary Work Non-Fiction category and a finalist for the Gustavus Myers Outstanding Book Awards. He has spoken at high schools, colleges, symposiums and in documentaries about topics such as race, religion and politics. Blake is a native of Baltimore, Maryland and a graduate of Howard University. You can follow John on: Facebook Twitter You can find all things John Blake related on his website You can purchase John Blake's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 152
September Rebroadcast: Unlocking The True Nature Of God With C. Baxter Kruger
The Quoircast podcast is brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. The book is published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we chat with C. Baxter Kruger C. Baxter Kruger, Ph.D. is a Trinitarian scholar and the Director of Perichoresis Ministries, an international ministry proclaiming gospel of the Triune God. A life-long student of psychology, he has a degree in political science, and his Doctor of Philosophy from Kings College, Aberdeen, Scotland. He is the author of nine books including the international bestseller, The Shack Revisited, and recently Patmos. Baxter and his wife Beth have been married for 34 years and have four children, and one granddaughter. He teaches around the world. You can follow Baxter on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things C. Baxter Kruger on his website. You can purchase all of C. Baxter Kruger's book an Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 153
Love Comes Back Around: A Conversation With Jennifer Knapp
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by Deadly Faith Podcast : a true crime podcast that explores the world where religion and crime collide. In this episode we chat with Jennifer Knapp Jennifer Knapp is a Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter, author, speaker and advocate. Her impressive history includes selling over one million albums with her first three releases Kansas (debut 1998, Gold-certified), Lay It Down (2000), and The Way I Am (2001). She has earned four Dove Awards and two Grammy nominations. The Kansas-born musician has toured the globe with artists such as Jars of Clay and was featured on the Lilith Fair Tour in 1999 and 2010. Knapp received critical acclaim for her human approach to the divine, with The Los Angeles Times calling her “a rising star” and People Magazine describing her as “an uncommonly literate songwriter.” With a considerable fan base and critical and commercial success, Knapp walked away from music in 2002 at the height of her career. After a seven-year hiatus she returned in 2010 with a renewed passion for music showcased in her album Letting Go, which debuted at No. 73 on the Billboard Hot 200 Chart. Set Me Free followed in 2014 on Righteous Babe Records in conjunction with a memoir, Facing the Music: My Story, published by Simon & Schuster. Her 2017 album Love Comes Back Around , produced by Viktor Krauss, pairs her fearless songwriting and strong, expressive voice with Americana style rootsy arrangements. As the first major artist in the Christian music world to speak openly about LGBTQ identity, her unique position created opportunities for national dialogue, including appearances on Larry King Live and the TEDx stage. In 2012 Knapp founded the non-profit organization Inside Out Faith , through which she continues to speak and perform nationally as an advocate for LGBTQ & faith issues. You can follow Jennifer on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok YouTube You can find all things Jennifer Knapp related on her website You can purchase Jennifer's book Facing the Music and her music at her online store You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 155
Let You Heartbreak Be Your Guide: A Conversation With Adam Bucko
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by Reframing Our Stories Podcast. Stories shape who we are and they hold a lot of power. In this episode we chat with Adam Bucko. ather Adam Bucko is an Episcopal priest, spiritual director and activist who has been a committed voice in the movement for the renewal of Christian Contemplative Spirituality and the growing New Monastic movement. He has taught engaged contemplative spirituality in Europe and the United States, and has authored Let Your Heartbreak be Your Guide: Lessons in Engaged Contemplation and co-authored Occupy Spirituality: A Radical Vision for a New Generation, and The New Monasticism: An Interspiritual Manifesto for Contemplative Living. Committed to an integration of contemplation and just practice, he cofounded an award-winning non-profit, the Reciprocity Foundation, where he spent 15 years working with homeless youth living on the streets of New York City, providing spiritual care, developing programs to end youth homelessness, and articulating a vision for spiritual mentoring in a post-religious world. He currently serves as a director of The Center for Spiritual Imagination at the Cathedral of the Incarnation in New York, and is a member of “The Community of the Incarnation,” a ‘new monastic’ community dedicated to democratizing the gifts of monastic spirituality and teaching contemplative spirituality, in the context of hearing and responding to the cry of the poor and the cry of the earth. Adam lives in New York with his wife, Kaira Jewel Lingo, a Buddhist teacher and former nun in the community of Thich Nhat Hanh. Together they lead The Buddhist-Christian Community for Meditation and Action. You can follow Adam on: Facebook Instagram Twitter You can find all things Adam Bucko on his website You can buy Adam's book Let You Heartbreak be Your Guide on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 156
October Rebroadcast: Theosis And The Four Paths: A Conversation with Alexander John Shaia
Thie quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. It is published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we talk with Alexander John Shaia. Born and raised in Birmingham, Alabama, Alexander John was part of a large extended family that had emigrated from Lebanon a generation previously. He grew up immersed in the ancient traditions of Middle Eastern Christianity (Maronite Catholicism) and was expected to become a priest, a family tradition since the year 1300. He was led otherwise. Alexander John attended the University of Notre Dame and received a degree in Cultural Anthropology. Next came a brief time in seminary followed by a Master’s in Counseling Education, a Master’s in Religious Education, a graduate certificate in Pastoral Psychotherapy, and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. His extensive psychological training across many modalities finally led him to Switzerland where he studied with the Jungian Analyst and founder of Sandplay Psychotherapy, Dora Maria Kalff. Alexander John became the first US man admitted to the International Society for Sandplay Therapy and continues to serve as a senior Certified Teaching Member of the organization. Returning to the United States, he undertook years of private practice, teaching, parish and retreat ministry and further study. Integrating his life-long practice of prayer with many cross-disciplines—anthropology, psychology, spirituality, and ritual work—has shaped him into a unique thought-leader and a widely sought consultant, trainer, and inspiring keynote speaker. Then in 2000, Alexander John’s professional life expanded from being primarily a speaker to also that of an author, now with some eight books and more in the works. He lives in the high Rocky Mountains in Northern New Mexico and the wild Atlantic coast of Northwest Spain. A perfect day finds him in the presence of ancient trees, massive stones, his dog and a book of poetry. You can Follow Alexander John Shaia on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Alexander John Shaia relayed on his website You can purchase Alexander's books on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 158
October Rebroadcast: Free Mom Hugs: An LGBTQIA+ Affirming Conversation with Sara Cunningham
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. The book is published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with Sara Cunningham. Sara Cunningham is an author, activist, and founder of the non-profit organization Free Mom Hugs. Her journey is a surprising one that began in conservative Oklahoma, when her son, Parker, came out as gay. As a woman of faith, Sara wrestled with the news until she began to study, research, and reconcile the two worlds. This journey resulted in her book How We Sleep at Night. She found herself on a journey “from the church to the Pride parade,” falling in love with the LGBTQIA+ community. In the wake of beautiful glitter-covered hugs and heart-breaking horror stories, the mission of Free Mom Hugs began. Simple acts of love and acceptance turned into a viral sensation, and Sara knew she had the opportunity to lead impactful change You can follow Sara on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Check out Free Mom Hugs at their website You can purchase Sara's book at Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 160
October Rebroadcast: Freed Hearts Loving Well: A Conversation with Susan Cottrell
This Quoircast episode it brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)stuction by Nat Turney. he book is published by Quoir and is available now. In this episode we chat with Susan Cottrell. SUSAN COTTRELL is an international speaker whose TEDx talk has 1.5 million views. OutSmart magazine called her “The Mother of All MamaBears.” The Advocate dubbed her “our favorite affirming matriarch.” She is a prominent voice for the LGBTQ community and their faith parents who has been featured on ABC’s 20/20 , Nightline and Good Morning America , on NBC News Out , and as a contributor on the Our Bible app. She is a public theologian and through her nonprofit organization—FreedHearts—Susan expresses her authentic love for the LGBTQ+ community and families; and she sees love as the healing foundation of family, faith, and community. She spent 20+ years in the nonaffirming Evangelical church, has a Master of Arts in Theological Studies, and served as the Vice-President of PFLAG Austin. Her FreedHearts Blog and YouTube videos have millions of viewers, and her books “Mom, I’m Gay”—Loving Your LGBTQ Child and Strengthening Your Faith ; True Colors: Celebrating the Truth and Beauty of the Real You ; Radically Included: The Biblical Case for Radical Love and Inclusion ; and Be the Love You Want to See in the World are critically acclaimed. She and her husband Rob have been married for 34 years and have five children, two of whom identify as queer. You can follow Susan on: Facebook Instagram Check out FreedHearts on there website Like, follow and listen to Susan's podcast You can purchase Susan's books on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 162
October Rebroadcast: Sledding Toward the Bumps: A Conversation with Amy Courts
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds Of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with Amy Courts. Amy Courts is a singer-songwriter, musician, writer, activist, and Seminarian based in Minneapolis, MN where she lives with her husband and son. Amy grew up in Denver, CO the youngest of four preacher's daughters and, after graduating in 2003 with her B.A. in Biblical Studies, moved to Nashville, TN where she independently produced and released two albums and toured with Jennifer Knapp and Derek Webb. After a near-death childbirth experience in 2011, she and her family moved to Minneapolis where she spent the next five years as a stay-home mom, worship leader, and singer-for-hire. In 2017, after a six year hiatus from creating and performing original music, she and her husband fulfilled a decade-long dream of co-creating and -producing a collaborative album as the duo Fireworks on Ferris Wheels for which they enjoyed critical acclaim and indie radio success. Amy also performs in a number of Twin Cities based bands, including with world-renowned guitarist Billy McLaughlin as part of Simple Gifts and Young and the Rest. In the fall of 2018, Amy was offered a full-ride scholarship to Luther Seminary in St. Paul, MN where she is currently earning her Master of Divinity in Justice & Reconciliation while working with numerous local arts-based, humanitarian, religious, and para-church organizations to address systemic injustices against marginalized communities through musical, theological, and political activism centered on economic, environmental, healthcare, and education justice. You can follow Amy on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Amy Courts on her website You can find her music on BandCamp You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 163
QAnon, Chaos, And The Cross: A Conversation With Michael Austin & Gregory Bock
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Wages of Grace by Brandon Dragan. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with Michael Austin and Gregory Bock Michaeli Austin is a distinguished philosophy professor, accomplished author, and captivating speaker. The majority of his pedagogical endeavors, written works, and public engagements revolve around the intricate realm of ethical inquiries concerning character and the advancement of human well-being. Holding the esteemed position of a Professor of Philosophy at Eastern Kentucky University, Michael’s academic pursuits encompass a diverse array of subjects, including ethics, family dynamics, sports, spirituality, religion, and technology. However, these explorations consistently maintain a central focus on character development and the promotion of human flourishing. His literary accomplishments include the publication of a notable total of twelve books. While some of these works cater to scholarly audiences, the majority are tailored for individuals possessing an interest in discovering how philosophical contemplation can be effectively employed in their daily lives. Gregory L. Bock is assistant professor of philosophy and religion and program director for the philosophy, religion studies, and Asian studies at the University of Texas at Tyler. He also serves as director for UT Tyler's Center for Ethics. He is editor of volumes 3 and 4 of The Philosophy of Forgiveness, coeditor of Righteous Indignation: Christian Philosophical and Theological Perspectives on Anger, and coeditor of the recent book Qanon, Chaos, and the Cross. You can follow Michael Austin on: Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube You can find all things Michael Austin related on his website You can follow Gregory Bock on: Facebook You can purchase QAnon, Chaos, and the Cross on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 166
November Rebroadcast: Petitionary Prayer: Real or Superstition? A conversation with Mark G Karris
This Quoircast podcast is brought to you by The Seeds Of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. It is published by Quoir and is available now In this episode we talk to Mark Karris. Mark Gregory Karris is a licensed marriage and family therapist, theologian, adjunct professor, ordained pastor, husband, writer, recording artist, and worship leader. He's a voracious reader, researcher and all around biophilic. He has received a master's degree in counseling through the Alliance Graduate School of Counseling in Nyack, N.Y., a master of divinity from Drew Theological School in N.J., and is currently working through his PsyD from Alliant International University in San Diego. You can follow Mark on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Mark Karris related on his website You can purchase Mar's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 167
Theological Musings: A Conversation With Dillon Naber Cruz
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by Second Cup With Keith by Keith Giles. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with Dillon Naber Cruz Dillon Naber Cruz is an author, permaculture enthusiast, speaker, and occasional podcast guest. He holds a B.A. in history from Millersville University, an M.A. in religion from Lancaster Theological Seminary, and an Advanced Permaculture Design Practicum certificate from Oregon State University. Dillon’s work is multidisciplinary bringing in history, theology, Biblical studies, and a permaculture inspired lens to his writing and teaching. He can often be found hiking near his home in Lancaster County PA, watching sports, or grabbing a beer at The Fridge, his favorite Lancaster pizza place. You can follow Dillon on: Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube You can find all things Dillon Naber Cruz related on his website You can purchase Theological Musings on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 169
There Once Were Orange Groves: A Conversation With David Giles
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Sitting Under The Shade Of Another Tree edited by Matthew Distefano and Keith Giles. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with David Giles David Giles shows an interest in the little moments of life. Inspired by the slow cinema of Tarkovsky, and the ambient music of Brian Eno, Giles understands that people are not just their highs and their lows, but also all of their day-to-day errands. David was the recipient of the William Shanebeck Award for Excellence in Creative Writing (2020) and currently resides in Portland, Oregon. His first novel, There Once Were Orange Groves, is available now on Amazon from Quoir Publishing. You can follow David on: Facebook Instagram You can purchase There Once Were Orange Groves on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 170
November Rebroascast: Only Love: How Everything Was. Is. And Will Be With Niq Ruud
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now In this episode we talk with Niq Ruud Niq Ruud, whose unique name bears the influence of a father's quirky spelling but is pronounced akin to a beloved Christmas saint, is a true Pacific Northwesterner at heart. Growing up amidst the scenic wonders of the region, Niq developed a passion for outdoor activities, embracing pursuits such as alpine climbing, sailing, surfing, skiing, cycling, and more. Niq's academic journey led to a profound exploration of religion. Graduating from Walla Walla University with a focus on this field, Niq took on the role of a pastor while concurrently pursuing theological studies at Grand Canyon Theological Seminary. Currently a postgraduate student at the University of Edinburgh, Niq delves into the intricate intersectionality between philosophy, science, and religion, with a particular focus on the human perception of God. A polymath at heart, Niq's intellectual interests span a wide array of subjects, including religious pluralism, philosophy of science and religion, eschatology, diversity, and ethics. These diverse pursuits converge around the central theme of understanding how humanity perceives the divine. Niq is also a published author, having penned a book titled "Only Love: How Everything Was, Is, and Will Be." This work advocates for a broad-minded perspective on God and, consequently, a more inclusive outlook on human relationships. Niq's writing encourages readers to embrace a more open-minded view of spirituality, fostering understanding and unity among individuals. The author holds a genuine affection for the book and invites others to explore its pages, suggesting that they might find resonance with its message of love and inclusivity. You can follow Niq on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Niq Ruud related on his website Check out his TedTalk HERE You can purchase Only Love on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 171
The Quiet House: A Conversation With Ron Greer
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Reframing Our Stories Podcast. Changing our narrative around sexual health, relationships, and conversations In this episode we chat with Ron Greer Ron Greer, an ordained United Methodist minister, is the Director of the Pastoral Counseling Service at Peachtree Road United Methodist Church in Atlanta, where he has served for over 40 years. He is a Fellow with the American Association of Pastoral Counselors and a Clinical Fellow of the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy. Ron is the author of five books. His most recent book, The Quiet House: Reflections on the Loss of a Spouse, is a series of personal reflections following the loss a spouse in which he offers paths toward healing, restoration, and eventual transition into a new life that lies ahead. You can purchase The Quiet House on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 173
Intersexion: A Conversation With Cynthia Vacca Davis
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Holy Heretics - Losing religion and finding Jesus In this episode we chat with Cynthia Vacca Davis Cynthia Vacca Davis teaches narrative nonfiction and journalism at Christopher Newport University. She holds an MFA in creative nonfiction and has led nonfiction workshops at The Muse Writers Center in Norfolk, Virginia, one of the biggest community writing centers of its kind in the country. She’s written hundreds of feature stories and profiles, a handful of pieces for literary journals, and two independently published YA novels, The Chrysalis and Drink the Rain. When she’s not home in coastal Virginia with her husband, pets, and students, she can often be found in the French Quarter of New Orleans in search of jazz and parades. A connoisseur of beverages, she loves to share a cup of just about anything around a table full of friends. You can follow Cynthia on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Threads TikTok You can find all things Cynthia Vacca Davis related on her website You can purchase Intersexion on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 174
December Rebroadcast: Getting Comfortable in Uncomfortable Conversations with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Seeds of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with Felicia Murrell & Mercy Aiken Felicia is an ordained pastor with River Fellowship and presently resides in Atlanta, Georgia with her husband, Doug. Together they have served in church leadership and ministerial roles for almost 20 years. Currently, they oversee Wise Counsel Ministries bringing transformation to both people and organizations. Felicia’s greatest joy is loving people. With a heart to equip and empower others, her passion is to bring others into a revelation of sonship where they learn to walk as Jesus walked through the experience of Father God continuously loving them. She and Doug have 4 adult children. You can follow Felicia on: Facebook Instagram You can purchase Truth Encounter on Amazon.com Mercy Aiken made Israel and Palestine lived intermittently in Bethlehem, Palestine, from September 2015 to the summer of 2020. Prior to this, she worked many years as a writer and leader in various web-based ministries and leadership in local churches. She is involved with Bethlehem Bible College and the biannual Christ at the Checkpoint conference held in Bethlehem which challenges evangelicals to consider the perspective and experience of Palestinian Christians. She is also committed to relationship and bridge-building work with Muslims and Jews. She is currently pursuing a Master’s Degree through St. Stephen's University and is the author of a soon-to-be-released book about Dr. Bishara Awad, the founder of Bethlehem Bible College, tentatively entitled "Fire in Bethlehem." You can follow Mercy on: Facebook Instagram You can purchase Yet In The Dark Streets Shining on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 175
God Is Everywhere: A Conversation With Victoria Powers & Cameron Vickrey
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Snarky Faith. Your irreverent guide to navigating the maze of life, culture, and spirituality. Hosted by Stuart Delony. In this episode we chat with Victoria Robb Powers & Cameron Mason Vickrey Rev. Victoria Robb Powers is the Executive Pastor at University Park United Methodist Church. She is a graduate of Baylor University and Brite Divinity School at Texas Christian University. After two years of serving as a hospital chaplain, she has spent the last eight years in parish ministry. Victoria and her family live in Dallas, Texas. Together they love to travel, take walks around White Rock Lake, and play with their golden retriever. You can follow Victoria on: Instagram Cameron Mason Vickrey is a graduate of Furman University and Wake Forest University School of Divinity. She currently works for Fellowship Southwest, sharing stories of ministry and mission along the US--Mexico border and advocating for migrants. She is also passionate about public education, and co-founded a nonprofit called RootEd, galvanizing parents of public school children to tell their stories and become advocates. Cameron lives in San Antonio with her family. Her free time is spent with her kids; wishing she were a gardener; teaching Sunday school to middle schoolers, and reading lots of books. You can follow Cameron on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can purchase My Love, God Is Everywhere on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 176
December Rebroadcast: The Art Of The Dissident: A Conversation With David Hayward (The Naked Pastor)
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by The Seeds Of De(con)struction by Nat Turney. Published by Quoir and available now In this episode we talk with David Hayward - AKA The Naked Pastor. After 30 years in the church, David left the ministry to pursue his passion for art. David Hayward - AKA NakedPastor uses words and images to challenge the status quo, deconstruct dogma, and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it. David is no stranger to belief systems - he holds a Masters in Theological Studies, as well as Diplomas in Religious Studies and Ministry, and University Teaching. His art expresses the stories and struggles of spiritual refugees and independent thinkers who question, doubt or oppose the confines of religion. Each piece encourages difficult conversations and acts as a catalyst for critical thinking. David is an artist and writer who supports LGBTQ+ people and groups, BIPOC and women artists, creatives, journalists, and more, and encourage others to do the same. You can follow David on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Tiktok You can find and purchase all of David Hayward's Art and merch on his website David Hayward's books can be purchased on amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 177
Detoxing Christianity: A Conversation With April Ajoy
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Sitting In The Shade Of Another Tree. Edited by Keith Giles and Matthew Distefano. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with April Ajoy April is a content creator who uses humor to shine light on the harmful, toxic and sometimes just weird traits of American Christianity. As a preacher's kid, she was deep in conservative evangelicalism. Some of her evangelical highlights include: singing on the Jim Bakker show, working for the 700 Club and leading worship for over a decade. She now identifies as a "recovering conservative" and is navigating through her own faith deconstruction journey through a comedic lens on social media. She has been married to her partner, Beecher, for 8 years and they have two daughters together. She and Beecher also host a podcast called The Non-Binary Marriage that shares their journey of accepting Beecher's gender identity as non-binary. You can follow April on: Facebook Twitter Instagram TikTok You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 179
Sitting In The Shade Of Another Tree: A Conversation With Keith Giles & Matthew Distefano
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by There Once Were Orange Groves by David Giles. Published by Quoir and available now In this episode we chat with Keith Giles and Matthew Distefano Keith Giles is a former pastor who left the pulpit to follow Jesus and start a house church where no one takes a salary and 100 percent of all offerings are given to help the poor in the community. He has been a published writer since 1989. He is the author of several books, including: "Jesus Unbound: Liberating the Word of God from the Bible" and "Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb." Keith is the co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast which has featured interviews with Bart Ehrman, John Fugelsang, Richard Rohr, Brad Jersak, Greg Boyd, and many others.Keith also teaches several online courses including "Square 1: From Deconstruction to Reconstruction" and other courses based on his many books. Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including the wildly popular Heretic! and From the Blood of Abel. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico, and has been in social work for over a decade, currently working as a Professional Service Coordinator in Butte County, California. In addition to his professional life, Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter. You can follow Kieth on: Facebook Twitter Instagram You can find all things Keith Giles related on his website You can follow Matthew on: Facebook Instagram TikTok You can find all things Matthew Distefano related on his website You can purchase Sitting In The Shade Of Another Tree on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 180
What To Believe: A Conversation With John D Caputo
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Religious Refugees by Mark Karris. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with John D Caputo John D. Caputo is a hybrid philosopher/theologian intent on producing impure thoughts, thoughts which circulate between philosophy and theology, short-circuits which deny fixed and rigorous boundaries between philosophy and theology. Caputo treats "sacred" texts as a poetics of the human condition, or as a "theo-poetics," a poetics of the event harbored in the name of God. His past books have attempted to persuade us that hermeneutics goes all the way down ( Radical Hermeneutics ), that Derrida is a thinker to be reckoned with by theology ( The Prayers and Tears of Jacques Derrida ), and that theology is best served by getting over its love affair with power and authority and embracing what Caputo calls, following St. Paul, The Weakness of God. He has also addressed wider-than-academic audiences in On Religion and What Would Jesus Deconstruct? and has an interest in interacting with the working church groups like ikon and the “Emergent” Church. He is currently working in a book on our frail and mortal flesh, probably to be entitled The Fate of All Flesh: A Theology of the Event, II. You can follow John Caputo on: Facebook You can find all things John D Caputo related on his website. You can purchase John D Caputo's book on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 181
Karma And Grace: A Conversation With Neena Mahadev
This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Second Cup With Keith Podcast. Keith Giles will provide new insights and perspectives on a variety of questions and topics related to the Christian faith. So, pull up a chair, pour yourself a hot mug of your favorite coffee or tea, and let's learn something new together. In this episode we chat with Neenah Mahadev Assistant Professor Neena Mahadev is an anthropologist with research, theoretical, and teaching expertise in the anthropology of religion, media and ritual mediations, political economy, pluralism, political theologies, South Asia, and Inter-Asian Studies. She has carried out extensive fieldwork in Sri Lanka, and also in Singapore. She received her PhD in Anthropology from Johns Hopkins University, an MA in Social Sciences from the University of Chicago, and a BA in Sociology/Anthropology from Carleton College. Dr Mahadev serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Global Buddhism, and also for the new book series New Directions in the Anthropology of Christianity. She holds a stewardship role as an Advisory Board Member of Omnia Institute, an international organization dedicated to grassroots Inter-Religious Peacemaking work in several sites of conflict. You can connect with Neena on: Facebook Instagram Twitter You can purchase Karma and Grace on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 183
The Beautiful Madness: A Conversation With Robert Hudson
The Quoircast podcast is brought to you by I deas Digest. Can religion be our trusted guide through life's challenges, or does it sometimes mislead us? In this episode we talk with Robert Hudson In third grade Robert knew that books would be his life—reading them, writing them, and making them. He has been a teacher, a book-store clerk, a journal editor, a translator, a book designer, a proofreader, a small-press publisher, a writer, and he has certificates in bookbinding and hand printing. Robert was an editor at Zondervan for 30+ years. He is best known as the author of The Christian Writer’s Manual of Style and has authored twelve books in all. He is a member of the West Michigan Thomas Merton Society, the International Dante Society, and the Traherne Association, and he serves on the board of the Calvin College Center for Faith and Writing. You can follow Robert on: Facebook You can find all things Robert Hudson related on his website You can purchase The Beautiful Madness Of Martin Bonham on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 184
Out Of Focus: A Conversation With Amber Cantorna-Wylde
This Quoircast episode is brought to you by Finding Jesus: A Fundamentalist Preacher Discovers the Socio-Political & Economic Teachings of the Gospels. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we talk with Amber Cantorna-Wylde Amber Cantorna-Wylde is a national speaker, coach, and storyteller supporting LGBTQ+ people through their coming out process and educating others on the importance of full inclusion. As someone who lost everything when coming out as gay. Amber is passionate about dissolving shame, fostering self-acceptance, and generating messages of hope for LGBTQ+ people and their families, especially those from conservative faith backgrounds. She’s the author of "Out of Focus: My Story of Sexuality, Shame, and Toxic Evangelicalism" (releasing October 2023), "Unashamed: A Coming-Out Guide for LGBTQ Christians" (WJK Press, 2019) and "Refocusing My Family" (Fortress Press, 2017). She is the founder and host of the Unashamed Love Collective ~ a beautiful and inclusive membership-based online community for LGBTQ+ people and allies. She also leads Cultivating Community Retreats—small, intimate group gatherings that build lasting relationships with like-minded people. You can follow Amber on: Facebook Instagram You can find all things Amber Cantorna-Wylde related on her website Yon can purchase Out Of Focus: My Story of Sexuality, Shame, and Toxic Evangelicalism on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!
Episode 185
Giving Up God: A Conversation With Sarah Henn Hayward
This Quoircast podcast is brought to you by Too Much And Not Enough by Karen Shock. Published by Quoir and available now. In this episode we chat with Sarah Henn Hayward Sarah Henn Hayward has been writing since she cracked open her first “quiet time” devotional journal. Sarah grew up in the Chicago suburbs, went to Marquette University for physical therapy, and moved to Spokane, WA, where she met her husband and grew their family. They love camping in the Pacific Northwest and take advantage of their beautiful surroundings as much as possible. After her deconstruction and departure from the faith of her youth, Sarah felt lost and adrift. Being a Christian was the foundation of her identity, giving her life purpose and meaning. She turned to books for comfort. When the progressive Christian voices fell flat and the atheistic approaches to life couldn't relate to her grief, she began writing her own spiritual memoir. You can follow Sarah on: Facebook Instagram You can find all things Sarah Henn Hayward related on her website You can purchase Giving Up God on Amazon.com You can connect with This Is Not Church on: Facebook Instagram Twitter TikTok YouTube Also check out our Linktree for all things This Is Not Church related Please like and follow our Quoircast Partners : Heretic Happy Hour Messy Spirituality Apostates Anonymous Second Cup with Keith The Church Needs Therapy Ideas Digest The New Evangelicals Snarky Faith Podcast Wild Olive Deadly Faith Jonathan Foster Sacred Thoughts Holy Heretics Reframing Our Stories Each episode of This Is Not Church Podcast is expertly engineered by our producer The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you’re thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!