Planned Parenthood Admits How Pro-Abortion They Are

I have to be honest, this makes me a little sick to my stomach.

In Florida last week, a lobbyist for Planned Parenthood was lobbying against a bill that would protect a baby that survived an abortionists attempts to kill it and was born alive. It seems pretty obvious to me that that baby should have medical care, but of course Planned Parenthood is against helping the baby.

It’s shocking how barbaric they are.

The American Center for Law and Justice has the story: 

Rep. Jose Oliva followed up, asking the Planned Parenthood official, “You stated that a baby born alive on a table as a result of a botched abortion that that decision should be left to the doctor and the family. Is that what you’re saying?”

Again, Snow replied, “That decision should be between the patient and the health care provider.”

She unmistakably repeats her answer several times. The official position of Planned Parenthood is that life of a baby born alive after a botched abortion, struggling for life on the abortion clinic table, should be legally in the hands of the doctor, the mother, and her family – despite the fact that the baby has now been born. Then, after these repeated assertions, she appears to suddenly realize what she has been openly advocating.

She was asked one final time be Representative Oliva, “I think that at that point the patient would be the child struggling on the table, wouldn’t you agree?” The Planned Parenthood lobbyist suddenly changed her answer, “That’s a very good question. I really don’t know how to answer that.”

This just makes me so sad. It’s so ugly.

I can’t believe we do this to our babies in America. And I can’t believe that our taxpayer dollars are going to support it.

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  • Thomas

    Now ask them what their opinion is on school killings, as least those children had the opportunity to hide, un-like a un-born child who as no where to hide!

  • Robyn Refsland Lund

    It’s definitely an ugly scenerio. Babies born alive have been stacked in soiled utility rooms, left to die alone on tables without treatment, basically abandoned while crying and struggling for air, murdered, etc. It is hard for me to face how much this keeps happening, and the brutality of the details, enough so, where I have to take breaks on reading about it because it’s too much to bear of what happens. Once I write something on my website on abortion and pro-life, I hardly revisit it. We have to remember that they are blinded, and we still have to love those who are do not know what they do. It is awful that our tax dollars support such an act. Thank God prayer is a powerful tool.

  • melory

    The mainstream media is ignoring these stories, why?

    It is up to us to SPEAK OUT! If not us, who?

    Infanticide is happening in this country because of leaders who voted against the Born Alive Protection Act and too many Americans choosing to look the other way/stand by silently while all this is happening:

    “She also told of seeing at least five aborted babies moving, breathing and, in one case, “screeching,” after procedures at Gosnells’ Women’s Medical Society clinic at 3801 Lancaster Ave.

    “They looked just like regular babies,” Baldwin said to Assistant District Attorney Joanne Pescatore.

    Baldwin said one baby she saw was so big that Gosnell joked that “this baby is going to walk me home.”

  • Sue B

    Thanks for speaking out on this Bristol. I really cannot understand how anyone could do this. The government needs to stop giving PP funds.

  • Donna Lands

    This whole story reminds a person that we stll have Josef Mengele alive and well here in the United States. I just can’t believe the statist media never talks about Gosnell and his taking of innocent babies lives. Fox has covered it. Its all over Twitter. Mr. Gosnell book in self in the Lords Library will have no pages in it and will be thrown into the darkness of abyss where it will be no more. There is so much evil everywhere because Society has erased God out of schools,media and Government. This man would have got the electric chair if this was any other time in history but today. He is a very evil hearted man.

  • michael

    I was simply not allowed to vote for McCain and Palin. And though I felt Obama had been not given a fair shake (as W who most was on his ranch) and I was opposed to Mormonism, and I even verbally suggested he have more opportunities to achieve his agenda’s, I so strongly feel I let all those babies down. It helps a little that I was only one vote, and understand losing is sometimes best, but this country has lost it’s way. Mrs Palin is the only politician I know that takes her oath for the people and keeps it. She really is a light in a dark place. And would constantly amaze at least some of us. And yet I still strongly feel had she been ever president (and this would have started with her vice-presidency) at best she would have had scandle after scandle and not being one to quickly conform like JFK she would have been removed from office. But she isn’t vetted by the CIA which has many good points. I am glad you all love your country, that’s as nice as I can put it. I will hope and pray for a better place. Life is given to those who don’t want it, though fearing I was misunderstood by a possible hater of sorts (whom I also likely suggested he not be afraid to wear his robe beforehand, and who spoke in my hearing that he was here last year) when I was run at while he screamed “what? What?” I spoke softly as proverbs suggested. I am not suicidal meaning I don’t deserve to be struck, but I am sad of a country that forces people to believe they are free…to choose slavery. But this is about the children, some are luckier than others, but I am in no way advocating abortion, which could never truly be about liberty, unless we quote “give me liberty or give me death” which I have been saying for years.

  • blackbird

    There is no humanity in these people.

  • LetsThink

    I don’t think many people no matter what their political affiliation support this kind of thing. I think what people are really afraid of here is that if republicans are given an inch they will try to take a mile. That is why there is no give when it comes to women’s rights. If they weren’t afraid that agreeing to laws against this kind of thing would lead to abortion banning all together they would be for restrictions. It’s kind of the same thing regarding gun control, republicans are fearful that putting some restrictions on gun sales and gun types that dems believe would save some lives would lead to greater infringement upon gun rights.

    It’s all about fear of what the other guy will try next so no one wants to give an inch and compromise. Kinda sad actually, we could accomplish so much if only our politicians would learn to truly compromise.

    • melory

      I’d rather they take a mile when it comes to protecting the least among us, in this case the unborn and infants. That is what real humans do.

      The problem is too many people are so loyal to a political party and political ideology that they rather look the other way or try and justify the murder of the unborn and infants. How sick is that!

      I despise the Republican party as much as I despise the Dem party. But at least right now they are the Party that at least acknowledge that these babies have a right to life and are doing what they can to protect them, i.e Kansas and North Dakota, etc.

  • Tawny Jones

    Dr. Kermit Gosnell is Planned Parenthood’s poster-boy.

  • michael

    Well I don’t at all think it’s about women’s rights Try2Think. If you read the article it’s about life for people (must I argue that what you call a fetus to dehuminize “it” would at least BECOME a person?). If your agenda is so sick and malicious to not understand to prevent a living fetus to come to a point where he\she has…let’s say gay rights. You think all almost humans deserve gay rights right? Of course I use the word human loosly certainly to expect you to understand. Because killing anyone’s unborn baby is not humane as I expect humans to act humane.

    • melory

      very well said!

    • LetsThink

      If you are a christian then you worship a God that ordered the murder of innocent babies and children.

  • Thotocv

    So true Letsthink.

    Also, tax dollars do not go to abortions.

  • CJ

    Margaret Sanger is the founder of Planned parenthood. She was both a Eugenicist and a Nazi sympathizer. In the bible, where it speaks of the end of days, it informs us that during this time, there would be a revival of the Roman Empire. We are witnessing this. If you all research the Third Reich, and you connect the dots, you will be able to see what’s really happening, not just to our nation, but to the entire world, and how it is being accomplished in plain sight.

    May God have mercy on us all.

  • Thotocv

    CJ it’s incredible how Margaret Sanger has been misrepresented by pro lifers.

    • melory

      Please explain.

  • Thotocv

    Melory, if that is for me and regarding Margaret Sanger, I suggest you read this article

    It clearly lays out some of the ways Christian fundamentalists have tried to demonize Sanger. They take quotes and mid use them, sometimes turning them completely around. And proliferation eat it up. And why wouldn’t they? Here is a woman who championed for women’s rights, birth control and all kind of choice for all women. But they misrepresent her.

    • melory

      “Every single case of inherited defect, every malformed child, every congenitally tainted human being brought into this world is of infinite importance to that poor individual; but it is of scarcely less importance to the rest of us and to all of our children who must pay in one way or another for these biological and racial mistakes.” Wow, classy progressive Margeret Sanger.

      Qoute from the real Margaret Sanger as per the article that you linked.

      So that is the woman liberals want to defend? See what she thought of children like Milea and Sasha and little Trig, it is right there, in her own words. There is no sign of the autopia she envisioned for women today, only tragedy and infanticide. And still liberals defend her and PP?

      She belonged in a mental institution. What kind of stupid woman consider this woman a hero and a champion for women’s rights?

      It would have been better for you Tho if you did not link that article. It just confirms everything we knew about Sanger.

      • melory

        should be “utopia”

      • Mom

        I never read anything that Mrs Sanger has ever said (and am in no way interested in reading anything she has to say) but this quote is scary. She basically said the exact same thing that the doctors of the Third Reich said… I feel sick to the stomach.

    • Carol moorby

      No person has the right to tell people they have rights other than the god given rights they already have! Especially when they contradict the word of God and allow murder. You who agree with Sanger will spend eternity in hell…this is a warning ! Hopefully you will realize the error of your ways and come back to sober senses! I can’t believe that there are such perverted agendas as those of Sanger and you who agree with her. God will give you another chance to repent but you must repent. Other wise it’s over for you. The only thing twisted in your post are the minds that have been so brain washed and perverted under demonic agendas. Lord, I pray for these poor deranged Sould who are deceived under counterfeit power!

    • Carol moorby

      No person has the right to tell people they have rights other than the god given rights they already have! Especially when they contradict the word of God and allow murder. You who agree with Sanger will spend eternity in hell…this is a warning ! Hopefully you will realize the error of your ways and come back to sober senses! I can’t believe that there are such perverted agendas as those of Sanger and you who agree with her. God will give you another chance to repent but you must repent. Other wise it’s over for you. The only thing twisted in your post are the minds that have been so brain washed and perverted under demonic agendas. Lord, I pray for these poor deranged Souls who are deceived under counterfeit power!

  • Thotocv

    That should read ” And pro lifers eat it up”

  • Bree Merr

    This is heartbreaking, disgusting and evil.

  • Thotocv

    Melory, it would have been better for you to have read the whole quote instead of misrepresenting it. All you managed to do was to prove my point.

    When you read the whole quote you will see that Sanger is advocating for birthcontrol so that children are all born of love and are able to be cared for well. This is for the good of not just that child, but all children, women and society.

    • Mom

      Actually Thotocv, I read the whole quote because I was absolutely horrified that anyone in our most recent part of History could speak the same way than those geneticists of the Third Reich. I have this naive attitude in life to always assume to best in people, so I figured I should read the rest of the quote. She is indeed advocating for birth-control more specifically what only pro-abortionists like you like to refer as birth-control: abortion. She is basically saying that by allowing the termination of fetuses which present what she calls “biological and racial mistakes”, we will assure that all babies who are born will be loved and desired. She is even referring to societies of the past, and specifically naming Greece. Greece had an interesting way to deal with deformed babies or simply unwanted babies. They would be exposed to the elements and left to die “” – The Third Reich based a lot of its inspiration on Antiquity beliefs and Practices… Indeed reading the end of the quote affirmed to me that she had the same ideology than the madmen in Germany during WWII. However nothing says that she was Neo-Nazi or whatever some of the Conservatives extremists may have said of her… There is one blitz in disliking both of the mainstream parties, you don’t have to adhere to any fanaticism like you have blindly adhered in the cult of the Liberal party and condoned the murder of babies in the name of humanitarian practices… SMH

  • Thotocv

    What would Sager have thought of Malia, Sasha and Trig? Well for starters Melory, she would not have lumped them together. Recall in Sanger day, African American children were not given equal opportunity as they are now. She certainly would not have concerns for Barack and Michelle Obama’s children’s well being or futures, nor Michelle’s.

  • Thotocv

    As fir Trig, she would not have called his ” special needs” as such, but rather as defects as was the norm back then. But nevertheless, she would have said that the choice to use birth control or not despite her heightened risk due to advanced age was Sarah Palin’s. she would have recognized that Palins wealth and access to free public healthcare would mean Trig would be cared for, but again even without that, the choice was Sarah’s

  • Thotocv

    And Melory, Samger did indeed improve women’s rights and freedoms. Thanks to her pioneering work we now have better ability to control or fertility and have choice in our lives and careers.

  • Tootie

    Maybe we’ll have godly leadership soon–like your mom.

    Thank God Tripp is with us, Jesus’ little creation!

  • Carol moorby

    I choose not to read articles written by ungodly men but the truth in the Holy Bible written by God. he doesn’t lie… does!

    • melory

      I understand what you are saying. I regret reading the article about Sanger. It is all just so sick. Very hard for normal human beings to understand the sick mind of progressives like Sanger and Hitler of the National SOCIALIST German Workers’ party. And then you have their useful idiots defending that kind of depravity as if it is innocent and as if these progressives just wanted to help. It is straight from the pit of hell.

    • LetsThink

      As long as you admit that you worship a God that orders the murder of innocent babies and children then go ahead and use his name

  • michael

    I was beat up at a disabled black baby’s mother’s house. And set up and tricked into reaching past him and with only a few teeth he bit my injured havee (his contributed to) it hurt really bad so I slapping lightly. But that didn’t I slapped his harder. Needless to say his mother came in at that second. Then her brother’s friend injured injured.
    And I took this lady to planned parenting one day and two ladies working at Planned Parentin physically tortured my hand and scarred. Needless to say I hate planned parenting. For so many years I thought planned parenting was about life (exept what they did to me).

  • Thotocv

    Wow, Carol and Michael…. Where to start. Okay I’ll go nicely. Clearly from this comment and a previous one about almost being killed by an illegal alien and left for dead, Michael has problems. And Carol, well your religious beliefs are your own. You are entitled to them of course, but just know not everyone shares them. Best wishes to you both.

  • Joseph

    Just disgusting!

  • michael

    Thotocv the only problems I have is the nazi\kkk sickos. I ask again what are your affiliations? You seem to have a problem with me.

  • Thotocv

    I don’t have a problem with you Michael. It’s just clear from your writings that something is not right with you. Perhaps from your car accident? In any case, I’m not sure what you mean by ” affiliations”. I am agnostic and a progressive. I vote Democrat though I might vote for a Republican like Governor Christie.

  • michael

    I am sorry I responded to the troll. As I have been birthed I need not worry too much about Thotocv. It is sick to deprive anyone with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in America. When we deprive anyone of this right we void this whole system. This includes those falsely accused without proper legal council who are forced to join gangs and their imprisonment lasts a lifetime. I had felt these were the least of those in the country but I do agree the innocent children should always take precedence.

  • michael

    We already discussed it was not a car accident Thotocv. I will say that I don’t have as much free time as a troll trying to ruin peoples day they don’t know because they have different political agendas. Fighting for children lives is not an interest to you. Agnostic means you don’t belief or understand the life Jesus for us is available to us now. By for and through all things were created seen and unseen. And I daresay it offends you as others times I experience being seated in the heavens above these principalities. Jealousy is sick and destroyed my family these past three generations. I understand liberals are not about liberty and can accept this. Just because the devil has convinced you he doesn’t exist and could never truly understand the lengths progressives will go including slavery (doesn’t sound like progress) and killing so many as it must be a kill em all let God sort em out is not like any religion I have heard of. Gnosticism must be a religion like Catholicism or Atheism. A sort of religion where you do what you want and damn the rest (not spoken of in any biblical definition of religion). Can we please stick to the subject at hand the children not your demonizing or know-it-all attitude can do things my way apart from God aquired from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. This topic does interest me not just because I didn’t understand that when I voted for Obama I didn’t realize I was wholly accepting mudering American children and would never have imagined though Obama likely suffered much since I named him as “our first black president” so many years ago I couldn’t have imagined him not understanding slavery is worse than any of his mk-ultra tortured. And as far as waterboarding it really sucks repeating something verbatim so as not being forced to believe I may sufficate but it is true it’s better than losing body parts. You are not at all progressive! Though you may be blind…

  • Thotocv

    Michael, you actually told us in the Terri Shiavo post that you suffered from a car accident. I don’t know the lasting effects of that but it appears you still struggle, so I will be kind and leave it at that.

  • melory

    I did not take her out of context – you are trying to defend the indefensible.

    Sanger wanted a perfect world with perfect white people. A world where the only children that are born are perfect white babies, a world free of black people and “defects’” or as she called them “biological and racial mistakes”. That is what she thought of childrend like Milea and Sasha and my son for that matter – that they are racial mistakes, and Trig a biological mistake.

    It is clear from her language that she loathed these “tainted human beings” (her words), she did not want them to “breed” that is the disgusting language she used talking about human beings. Her mission was to rid the world of them. You don’t have to know anything about Sanger to know that. Just read the article you linked and the qoutes provided by the author who set out to defend her – but as you could see – it was impossible – she ended up confirming that Sanger was a racist and a hater and a control freak.

    Newsflash – it was not about women’s rights for Sanger and her ilk – it was about a perfect society with Perfect White People.

    You look bad for defending people like Sanger.

    • Mom

      Melory, I know it is five months later but as I have been reading Thotocv’s comments on here, I have noticed one thing. None of what he wrote seemed to stem from personal thinking but are all references to others’ ideology, no matter how flawed there are (eg the article he posted a link for) – I didn’t want to read that article but decided to at least read that quote you posted earlier. And her reference to Greece (Greece practiced infanticide by exposure) etc.. are just a confirmation of what you are saying. Unfortunately there is no reasoning with the blind and the willfully ignorant. Thotocv says that she was supporting birth-control: but only people like her and him/her (not sure what Thotocv is) would refer to abortion as birth-control… Just let be, we will all answer to God one day, and that day there will be grinding of teeth. All we can do is pray that God will have mercy upon what used to be a great nation: the United States of America and that people like Thotocv would have their eyes opened to the truth. We can’t convince them but life might happen… who knows?

  • Thotocv

    No Melory, Sanger wanted less children growing up in poverty and despair. She wanted less women living in poverty and with little choice, rights and freedoms. She was a champion of women’s rights and instrumental in women gaining control over their fertility. Margaret Sanger was not a racist, despite what you prolifers want to believe.

    • Mom

      how do you then explain the term “racial mistakes”? And don’t say I took it out of contexts. There is no context necessary for the expression “racial mistakes”- And watch what you are saying because according to this lady, I am a racial mistake so I do take her words somberly.

  • melory

    She was a racist and a hater judging from her own words and deeds, despite what you pro-abortionists want to believe.

    You are a useful idiot.

    Done talking to you.

  • Thotocv

    No Melory, she was not but prolifers do take her words out of context and try to paint her as such. And of course they would. We will never agree of this because I believe in choice and I believe in birth control. You do not and you want to believe the worst of anyone who is not like you.

    • melory

      Everything I said about her here is based on her own words – as provided by the liberal writer who wrote a piece to defend her. If I took her out of context, then the liberal author that you linked to took her out of context. You see, you are trying to defend the indefinsible.

      Sanger is the one who referred to black babies as “racial mistakes”, etc – not prolifers. Go ahead, bury you head in the sand, pro-lifers are bad, blah, blah, blah.

    • Guest

      Thotocv you don’t “believe in Birth control by opposition with people like me who don’t.” I believe in birth control (abstinence, the pill…) I don’t believe in abortion- I was supposed to be aborted by the way, so as you can imagine I have very good reasons not to believe in abortion. You believe in abortion. You play on semantics because you just don’t want to use the right terminology so as to depict your opponents as those evil persons who hate women. You say you believe in birth-control when the debate here is specifically on Abortion. Nice try dude.

  • Thotocv

    ” normal human beings”? Melory it may surprise you to realize that most humans agree with Sanger on a woman’s right to choose and to control her fertility. Most people support what she created, Planned Parenthood ( what, have you already forgotten the backlash against Susan G Komen last year?). And most humans would never equate Sanger with Hitler. So what’s with this business of ” normal humans”? Are you suggesting that most humans are not normal? Are you suggesting that only people who agree with you are normal?

  • Thotocv

    Melory I already explained how you took her words out of context, both literally and historically. The writer of the article explains it as well, using several examples. But I understand why you don’t want to see this and instead want to believe that Margaret Sanger’s intentions were evil. It helps in your cause against PP and against birth control and abortion. But most people see through it Melory.

  • melory

    I am suggesting that those who defend Sanger or find nothing wrong with her views are not normal.

    You may read again what your liberal friend wrote about Sanger and what I pointed out here. It may come as a surprise to you but normal human beings consider such ideas to be insane and evil. Normal human beings think Sanger’s ideas were as evil as that of Hitler. The mentally ill, however, beg to differ. They can agree with and defend people like Sanger and Hitler, normal people can’t and won’t.

    As I said, done talking you, go ahead, bury your head in the sand.

  • Thotocv

    There is extensive work being done at NYU called the Margaret Sanger Papers Project. Anyone interested can check it out at

    Now mind you, it’s a major research initiative bring conducted at a noted institute of higher learning. Just a warning to those of you against such things ;)

    • melory

      LOL! There is no evidence that “such things” have helped you at all.


  • Thotocv

    Actually they have Melory. But not in the way you would like people to be ” helped”. Higher education and research experience have taught me to look at things critically and understand things in ways that you do not. I don’t expect you to appreciate that.

    • Mom

      mmm actually you haven’t shown much personally critical thinking so far but keep trying.

  • melory

    Whatever you say, dear Tho.

  • michael

    Obama supporting planned parenthood must not realize how they target black children so often. I pray he is allowed to think clearly as if it really was race then the black man is suffering in America. I have truly not yet met a black person that wants to be “equal” with anyone, democrats are not about equality. Just like the president, just like planned parenthood, just like those monsters that tried to convince Bristol to kill her baby. You are only here to troll (what’s your nick) so please find another route to support “the world isn’t big enough for me and children” people don’t seem to realize we won’t be here long, who are you “saving the world” for? Please don’t even bother replying, I haven’t been reading your angry posts I just saw a supporter of letting children live and was thinking you need a hobby. God bless you my friends.

  • melory

    Thank you Michael and God blessings on you too!

  • Thotocv

    Michael I’m not sure what your end of the world reference is, so ill just leave that. As for our President supporting PP, it is because he is wise enough to recognize the need for sexually active women to be able to control their fertility. This is especially true for low income women. PLanned Parenthood does not ” target” African Americans. This is a prolife fallacy. African Americans falls disproportionately into the low income and are in need of affordable access to contraception and reproductive health services. That is why the demand is higher in these communities.

    • melory

      Yep, our president is wise enough to support the same PP that is on tape PROMISING that babies born alive in abortion clinics will be left to die.

      As for African Americans, yeah right, racist Sanger’s organization is just trying to help.

  • Thotocv

    “i have truly not yet met a black person that wants to be “equal” with anyone……”

    And what exactly are you trying to say here Michael? You talk some craziness about illegal aliens almost killing you in a car accident, a black baby biting you and you slapping him and them his family beating you up …. And now this? What are you getting at?

  • KarenJ

    RH Reality Check: “All Those Alternatives to Planned Parenthood? In Texas, At Least, They Don’t Exist” by Andrea Grimes – April 5, 2011 – 10:13 pm

  • Thotocv

    Again, Sanger was not a racist. But you’d like to think so because it plays along with your fallacy that PP targets African Americans. Good thing is, most people aren’t buying this and understand the relationship between the need for afforable health services and birth control amongst the poor and how African Americans continue to be disproportionally poor.

    Denying them access to PP or alternative would pug the poor at a further disadvantage. For that I would say shame on you, despite your religious beliefs.

  • michael

    Jesus didn’t do any of this why don’t you not use His name but we do.

  • melory

    The intent of healthcare is to save lives – abortion ends life – it is not a “health service”, it is murder, so stop lying.

    Things are going according to Sanger’s plan – read again the article that YOU linked. Sanger was obsessed with controlling the “negro” population as she referred to them.

    Btw, Alveda King begs to differ with you, the following is on her website:

    “Dr. La Verne Tolbert, a former Planned Parenthood board member, says black children are targeted through the schools for abortions in California.

    “In California, children are targeted for abortions through school-based clinics and school-linked clinics, which are family planning clinics on or near school grounds. Girls are taken off campus to a Planned Parenthood clinic, where abortions are performed without parental consent or notification,” she said.

    Shame on you for defending PP, knowing that one of their doctors is currently in the news for the mass murder of innocent babies, born alive – as many as 90 per week over a period of a decade or so.

    Shame on you for defending PP, knowing they have admitted that they leave babies born alive to die. You have not said anything in defense of these babies – what about their rights? Where do liberals stand on the issue of babies’ rights? Who is the liberal that is the champion for babies’ rights?

    • TrueBlue

      I suppose an abortion can’t happen unless a woman seeks one. Shame on you, Melory and your pro-life cohorts, for pimping out African-Americans in your fight to save babies who will be totally faceless and forgotten to you once they issue from their mother’s womb, and for refusing to consider other options that would make abortions a needless alternative, such as more comprehensive healthcare for women and children and help for the indigent.

      • melory

        Sorry the truth hurts you. You’d rather we not mention the fact that the majority of babies murdered in the womb and newborn are African-Americans. It is not my fault that liberals approve of these practices (abortion and infanticide). It is the truth and I will keep pointing it out – the truth sets people free. You cannot talk about Sanger without talking about her efforts to control the “negro” population and seeing how successful she and her ilk still are even today. It is not my fault that liberals made her out to be a hero. You need to study up on the eugenics movement before you defend these people.

        How do you know these babies are faceless and forgotten by us?

        What are those “other options” that you say I am refusing to consider? More comprehensive healthcare for women and children, please give details, what are you talking about?

        Shame on you/liberals for pretending to help the poor by teaching them that it is their right to murder their babies. And after they have done that these mothers will be totally faceless and forgotten to you once they have murdered their own and have to struggle with the pain of that for the rest of their lives. Yes, humans have a conscience – I have encountered these women – they are broken – liberals do not want to talk about that aspect of abortion. They just want to go on with their lives, feeling good about themselves for being soooo pro-choice.

        • TrueBlue

          Melory, you are a liar. If you are a black person, then you are doubly reprehensible. If you are a white person, then it is YOU who are using blacks to advance your own rabid views of women who choose abortion without addressing what causes women to make such a choice. I AM A MEMBER OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY. I work in my own community and am well aware of the economic disparity between women who have access to excellent prenatal care and those who don’t, and that disparity is a problem in many black communities today, and it exacerbates the abortion issue. Alveda King can continue to state her case to Fox News and crazy, shortsighted, self-righteous people like you, but she is not speaking to those to whom her uncle spoke.

          You are disgusting, and I will NOT speak to you again.

          • melory

            You know that was a very nasty post. The truth does hurt you, doesn’t it.

            The only one here who are using black people are you. You use your fake outrage to try and shut down debate.

            You cannot defend any of the horrific results of abortion, i.e infanticide, you cannot defend the offensive manner in which Sanger spoke about black people (how come you are not outraged about that), you cannot deny the statistics about abortion w.r.t African-Americans.

            So what do you do? You try a variation of the “conservatives are racists” -theme” – to try and shut down the debate. Btw, I posted pictures of white babies being murdered some weeks ago, and yesterday, does that mean I am “pimping” out white people?

            Remember when you called Sarah a racist without any evidence, here you have Sanger in her own words degrading black people and you have nothing to say about that.

            And your solution to the problem in black communities is to help them kill their babies? Pardon me for not thinking that is ok.

            A nice day to you too.

          • melory

            “You are disgusting, and I will NOT speak to you again”
            I have no problem with that. I have no desire to speak to you again either.

            All the best to you.

          • melory

            should be “the only one here who IS…” not are

  • Thotocv

    Melory , PP does not just provide a abortions, it provides other services which outnumber abortions. And just as one could call contraception sexual health services,one could call abortion the same.

    It matters not to me what Ms King, Priests for Life or any other prolifers claim about PP or Margaret Sanger. They are against birth control and absorption and inasmuch, they will misrepresent the truth to suit their agenda. I tend to look at the facts and go to the source in making my own decisions.

    • melory

      That was too much truth for you, Tho?

      Yes, stick to your own definitions, who needs the truth.

      “It matters not to me what Ms King, Priests for Life or any other prolifers claim about PP or Margaret Sanger. They are against birth control and absorption and inasmuch, they will misrepresent the truth to suit their agenda.” That is what YOU are doing, you are FOR abortion – so you ignore and misrepresent the truth to suit your agenda.

      So where do liberals stand on the issue of babies’ rights? Who is their champion for babies’ rights?

  • michael

    If I mention trying2think it isn’t necessarily because I want him\her to “grace” us with his\her presence. Actually what I was hoping was that possibly trying2think is not just thinking about a strong retort written in someone else’s hand and theology. (Though not considering the least of us as Jesus does it couldn’t be based on anything but selfishness.) I was truly hoping that trying2think was considering the possibility that he\she was wrong, certainly the death threats and being ranked out by sheer numbers of people makes us who consider the least of us who could never be able to repay us for our favor have to consider from time to time. Thanks Melory!!!

  • michael

    I stand corrected. Troll on trying2think

  • michael

    Oops I actually read part of the bs looking for something decent to read. “Melory , PP does not just provide a abortions”. Wow. If 9 months or a death sentance for someone else is not selfish what is? If falling in love with your child and spending evety moment onward to provide and teach is considered a death sentence, then the common argument comes to mind, this considering the mother’s life- “well you weren’t using it.” “PP does not just provide abortions” could very well be followed by “PP also strongly suggests abortions” as most of us know the power of suggestion, or “PP is forced to convince young ladies to have abortions” at times when confused ladies are not available to fulfill a quota or they won’t get the same government support next year. But “providing abortions” could NEVER be about the children, who even trying2think knows could never repay in monetary value. I might consider if trying2think has ever done anthing out of selflessness out of a good heart, to those who could never repay, or likely wouldn’t even try. Sorry didn’t mean to drag the current (or recent past) presidents into this.

  • michael

    Um yeah what she said.
    Mr president let’s at least consider the argument…
    “If an abortion advisor can convince a scared young lady (they most always are) to kill her child then she didn’t love the child”
    Makes as much sense as
    “If mk-ultra can manipulate a scared confused racist (they most always are) to kill JFK so they can continue to profit in America off Jews and blacks pain then it’s God’s will.” JFK’s unspoken speech was interesting. His Secret Service was operating on a skeleton crew (hardly there) the vice president had already accepted the precedency, H W who was conducting the MK ultra-man project as head of CIA operations didn’t mind, that’s how his family got it’s fortune, that’s how he was elected vice president, and he was trying to get elected by shooting Reagan. I am so tired of being surrounded by assholes 24-7. And no I don’t believe someone who can’t or won’t move a mountain with faith is gonna help, sure sounds like another casualty. I have a problem with the democratic party who found nothing sacred before, the Reagan/Bush, Clinton, W years have truly and totally destroyed this government. That’s one of my nicknames, destroyer, but I couldn’t want to be your God-z-ill-a and hurt China, where I go when I am tired of talking to Assyrians aka backwards @$$ &#<{$. So I lay on my face like Jesus. That's why I am an abdominal cold hearted jack frost snowman. And at least consider New Orleans, I wish I could go back and warm up.

  • Sdrecv

    Michael, get help. You sound like you are on the edge

  • Bree Merr

    The “opinion” that really counts…….

    Ecclesiastes 11:5 ESV
    As you do not know the way the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child, so you do not know the work of God who makes everything.

  • Bree Merr

    Another “opinion” that really counts….

    Proverbs 24:11-12 ESV /
    Rescue those who are being taken away to death; hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter. If you say, “Behold, we did not know this,” does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it, and will he not repay man according to his work?

  • michael

    Yes good scriptures. But can you imagine someone placing their hand on the good book and admitting they are an athiest? Or even agnostic, they don’t know the life given all us. Not at all that I have a problem with quoting scriptures. And these being relative to the subject at hand. Jesus condemned the Pharisees for searching the scriptures for the life found only in Him. I appreciate verse to support what we are doing even, it works for me, and works well. But how to win these enemies of the cross (as we are dying to live, and dying for these children, spending our time, energy, and resources on this an important subject to gain God’s favor again for our country. As a wicked nation elects a wicked leader, and if we can’t speak for those innocents who have no voice, what else could our voice be good for?)

    Excuse meTrueBlue (please remain blue) show us where in scripture this is good? Are you talking about not even sparing the women and children during war? Or maybe sacrificing to the false god molech? Or sacrificing our children like the destroyed “great” kingdoms like egypt, the aztecs, or the mayans? What about OUR freedom of religion? TrueBlue is trolling and suggests we are cohorts for wanting to protect the minds and children of young ladies…

    Sdrecv excuse me I am not on edge, or at least I feel great “self described nazi dr”, but that still in no way gives you the right to try and push me over the edge. Typical quack. Before we continue, how much is this going to cost?

    And I quote:

    According to a Psychology Today hit piece written by psychologist John Gartner, people prone to thinking that powerful men might actually get together and plan to maintain and advance their power are borderline psychotics who are a danger to society. In reality, hundreds of years of history has taught us that psychologists routinely aid authoritarian regimes in enforcing tyrannical and inhumane policies while helping them crush political opposition by defining suspicion of authorities as a mental illness.
    Can Man successfully rule himself or do you agree with this Bible quote?

    Jeremiah 10:23: I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
    And this is interesting, I quote:

    Here’s the Formula: Hatred + Government + Disarmed Civilians = Genocide.What makes the argument so powerful? Two factors. First, it makes common sense: Unarmed, defenseless people have no hope against armed aggressors. Second, it states the historical truth: Evil governments did wipe out 170,000,000 innocent non-military lives in the 20th century alone.~ Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership website
    Psalm 19:13 KJV
    Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins ; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.


    Synonyms: arrogant, audacious, bold, cheeky, conceited, confident, contumelious, egotistic, foolhardy, forward, fresh, insolent, overconfident, overfamiliar, overweening, pompous, presuming, pretentious, pushy, rash, rude, self-assertive, self-assured, self-satisfied, smug, supercilious, uppity

  • melory

    This is what happens in the case of unrestricted late-term abortion:

    “a) If a woman wants her baby, he is her precious newborn son, a patient of the hospital, and even if prematurely delivered he will receive humane medical care.

    b) If the woman does not want her baby, cut his head off and toss the body in the bin with the others.

    Note that the difference between a) and b) is merely the emotional whim of one parent. This is what distinguishes this killing as ‘abortion’ and not infanticide, to the extremist end of the pro-choice crowd.

    On the lady’s word, that which would otherwise be considered a child, lives or dies.

    This is not a good enough distinction or reason. Humans recoil from this.

    When innocent little babies are in danger, most human beings – not deranged mutants like Amanda Marcotte, but actual, decent people – feel an imperative to intervene. If you tried to harm a child within the sight of most people, they would hasten to reduce you to ‘a clump of cells.’

    Everyone knows that people love babies and children. This is why the pro-choice side uses the terms ‘fetus,’ or ‘clump of cells.’ This is why they constantly hammer the idea that this is just like any other ordinary medical procedure. They understand the importance of eliminating the notion that babies are being harmed.

    And this is also why the pro-life forces are constantly trying to show those gory photos of very tiny aborted babies. Because they are trying to smash the sterile concept that keeps people from caring about abortion as a moral issue.

  • melory

    We need a national day of mourning for these babies. Lord have mercy on us, forgive us our sin, and help us, show us how to correct these mistakes and root out this evil, in Jesus Name.

  • melory

    It is time for pro-life liberals and pro-life conservatives to come together and come against this evil.

    These pictures are hard to look at, if we can’t stand looking at them, they are only the pictures, think of the real horror and excruciating pain these babies have felt. Let us not get offended at someone posting the pictures, let us get offended at the horrific deeds of abortion and infanticide. May we never have to see such pictures ever again.

    We cannot allow our loyalty to our political parties to cause us to look the other way anymore. We cannot continue to allow abortions until we come up with “a better solution”. Let these babies be born, that is all they would ask if they could speak. Do not decide for them that they won’t be able to make it, we made it, by the grace of God, they will to. At least, give them a chance at life, don’t deny them their God-given right to life!

    This is wearing me out – I want to stay away – but if we do not counter the defenders of these horrible practices – who will – it is an information war, as someone called it – we must keep fighting back with the truth.

    Evil only thrives when good people do nothing. Do not under-estimate the power of SPEAKING OUT!

    Thanks Bree for the scriptures.

  • melory

    Galations 6:9
    Let’s not get tired of doing what is good, for at the right time we will reap a harvest—if we do not give up.

    Bristol I have spent so much time on your blog that I feel I cannot just leave without saying goodbye (smile).

    You and your family will always be in our prayers.
    Keep up the good work.

    If we never meet again this side of heaven, I will meet you on that beautiful shore.

  • michael

    Wow…the troll left. I wonder if there are white people in her community as well. Lemme at least find fault with her post…

    Well I must say that being armed with brainwashing tools and psychology…MK-Ultra prides itself (one of the things known of the project, I think it’s fair to say) in that they can make a person kill their best friend. But us Christians are trying to be like Jesus and love our enemies. It is great that she doesn’t want to debate here, I think this Blog is intended for conservative thought and anything more does result in endless debate and causes our outlet against this outrage to stand still. We are doing this for the children and I doubt color is an issue but since it has been brought up…we are doing this more for the black children and they being a minority it is sadder. Sarah Palin like her family with great values is not racist but I am terribly ashamed of a president whose policies disrespected her and my olr family so much. So much has been done for him to further his causes but these innocent children dying I don’t think he understands the gravity of our situation. How dare you treat the Palins this way Barrack!

  • SSadf

    Really Michael? How have Zobamas policies distracted the Palin family? This ought to be good…..

    And FYI, I didn’t leave. The blog admin just stopped posting my comments. That should tell you how powerful they were. ” Facts! We don’t need no stinkin facts!!!!” Too funny

  • SSadf

    Sorry that should be : How do Obama’s policies disrespect the Palin family