Not Really Funny

Have you ever noticed how comedians always poke fun at conservatives, and then throw their hands up in the air when we’re offended?

It’s just a joke, they say.  Get a sense of humor, they say.

Well, here’s the thing.  John Fund makes a great point in National Review today that shows why we aren’t laughing:

It’s been obvious ever since Barack Obama appeared on the political scene that comedians rarely go beyond lame jokes about him. As far back as 2009, the Los Angeles Times noted that “TV’s leading political humorists have largely backed away from their ritual comic hazing of the president.”

During last year’s presidential election, a study from George Mason University’s Center for Media and Public Affairs reported that comics made more than twice as many jokes about GOP candidate Mitt Romney than they did about Obama. From late August of 2012 until early October, network late-night comics Jimmy Fallon, Jay Leno, David Letterman, and Craig Ferguson dumped on Obama only 62 times compared to 148 times for Romney.

In other words, the comedians don’t poke fun at the President because they try to protect him.  Or maybe, with all this going on, they honestly can’t find humor in him anymore anyway.

Either way, it’s not really funny.

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  • GinaRD

    Amen!

  • Lakerfanalways

    The only one that has been poking fun at Obama lately is Jay Leno..and its because he already knows he’s done at NBC so he doesn’t have to worry about being fired..the rest of these so-called comedians are all far left kooks..of course they wont make fun of Obama, his agenda is their agenda, same goes for the media

    • the_original_tom

      Leno? I thought Bristol was talking about comedians!

  • Bree Merr

    I rarely see the humor in their “jokes” that are ridiculing others. It usually come off as cowardly verbal abuse. It does not take talent, character or intelligence to put others down. It is a silly immature form of bulling.

  • Tom O’laughlin

    Comedians

  • otlset

    I had known it for a while, but there was one instance where I totally realized what a complete jerk Letterman is. He was scheduled some years back to have the great Mick Taylor (lead guitarist for the Rolling Stones during the ‘golden era’ 1969 – 1974) as a guest and I was really looking forward to it, and of course the gap-toothed idiot blabbed so much the time ran short and Taylor was bumped, and only allowed to play during the show’s outro portion. He made some stupid quip dismissing his worth as guest, geez Letterman’s such a turd.

    Of course he’s an Obama-supporting liberal, so it makes sense.

    • donalddump

      Now, that was a useless diatribe otty. Did you shake your fist at the t.v? I bet you had just down with your bedtime bowl of porridge, a fresh, clean and dry Depends,so looking forward to this performance. Must have ruined your life.

      • otlset

        No just the evening dumpy. But it did tell me what kind of carelessly ungracious jerk he is, which has been reinforced multiple times over since seeing the boor insult Sarah Palin and her family on his show in a way-out-of-bounds manner. I suppose he thinks that kind of cruel humor that demeans others is funny. But then he’s insulated in that knee-jerk liberal Hollywood community, perhaps that’s how much the sense of humor has degenerated there over the years.

        • ishy

          Ted Nugent went on a vicious onstage rant in which he threatened the lives of Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Decked out in full-on camouflage hunting gear, Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, “Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.” Nugent summed up his eloquent speech by screaming “freedom!”

          • ishy

            Should I post links to all the pictures of Sarah and Ted hugging each other?

          • otlset

            How about I post links to Obama abjectly bowing to mid-eastern Muslim potentates? It’s about as relevant.

          • ishy

            Only if you also share the ones of Bush and the Saudi Prince holding hands.

          • otlset

            Straw man. Stick to the subject — David “gap-toothed schmuck” Letterman.

          • ishy

            I am sticking to the subject. You are criticizing Letterman for being an “ungracious jerk” and a “boor” who “insult Sarah Palin and her
            family on his show in a way-out-of-bounds manner.” So that kind of “cruel humor” is not ok with you but what Ted Nugent says is ok? Don’t you think its hypocritical of the Palins (and her followers) to attacked Letterman but then not only give Nugent a pass but never pass up an opportunity to give him a hug in front of the cameras

          • otlset

            Straw man. What Nugent said has no bearing on Letterman being a jerk.

          • ishy

            You are wrong. And just so you know the article is about LATE NIGHT COMEDIANS…not solely Letterman. You can read correct?

          • otlset

            We all know who is far and away the most vile and arrogant of the late-night comedians/hosts in his tasteless ‘jokes’ showing undisguised (and irrational) dislike of Sarah Palin and her family. Who is pictured, a composite comedian?

          • ishy

            Still waiting on Bristol and her mother to condemn entertainer Ted Nugent for his attacks on women. Death threats are certainly far worse than anything Mr. Letterman has ever joked about.

  • Tom O’laughlin

    Comedians usually poke fun at what bothers them.
    Their subjects (if political) are focused on those that are mean, hateful, over the top outrageous, divisive or judgmental.
    They are poking fun at what society hates.
    No one likes a bully. Do you see them making fun of victims?
    No one likes someone who preaches and judges. Do you ever see them flattering those?
    President Obama really doesn’t give them much “stuff”.
    He’s all about that hope, change, bringing people together, not excluding because of religion or ethnicity… all the boring topics.
    Mitt Romney is and was a joke. He came out swinging using talking points that went against everything he stood for only to get a vote.
    He was fake. That’s joke material.
    Your mom, no matter her intent, tends to divide, judge, point fingers – joke material.
    No one likes a finger pointer.

    There is a deeper level to everything. Don’t just view Comedians as funny people who want to make a laugh. Any research and you will see the funniest people out there are also the most depressed. Humor has become the one tool that has gotten them through and they got so good at it they became famous.
    But listen to their message. There is a message behind all jokes.

    In today’s political world, the GOP has become mean, judgmental and angry.
    No one likes people like that. Those are the types of people that depressed the Comedians to begin with. Of course they are going to take pot shots at those folks.

    And on the other side of the coin, a Comedian should be allowed to joke about whatever they want. If they are Democratic in thinking they should be allowed to crack jokes about the other side. It’s their prerogative. Just like News Networks are allowed to give whatever slant they want. They are the ones spending the money. It’s their network.

    It’s not rocket science.
    You have to be deeper than a lot of your complaints.
    Generically calling out Comedians because they say stuff you don’t like is silly!
    They aren’t out to get you or anyone but merely doing their job. It’s their gig just like this blog is your gig.

    What was the purpose of this piece? To get people to hate Comedians?
    Just because the slant may be more “to the left” just means more Comedians from “the right” need to come out of the woodwork.

    People are allowed to view their opinions. It’s part of what makes America so great. You have Comedians viewing their opinions and you right a hit piece against them? For what purpose?

    I applaud yourself and your mom for getting out there and pointing out what is wrong with America and those in it but eventually you need to stop just blowing the whistle and doing something about it.

    As far as I know you both are absent from public view except to come out blow that whistle and then disappear again.

    I’d, personally, love to see you start up a home for unwed mothers and blog about that. Real change vrs just complaining.

    Love you dearly but it’s getting old.

    • otlset

      Not comedians, just David Letterman.

    • melory23

      Come on Bristol supporters, you gonna let this person get away with this rubbish? I hate that they come here and post this nonsense and get away with it while it is so easy to disprove all their stupid claims.
      Hey, Tom, were you thinking about liberals when you wrote this post, because everything you said to accuse us actually apply to them.

      • RushLpig

        You going to cry? Lol

        • melory23

          You are going to cry when I am done with you. Your luck that I don’t have time today.

          • thomas o’laughlin

            Get your pitchfork and go at ‘em!
            How DARE anyone think and offer another view point!
            How Dare!
            It is scary how demented and twisted your thinking has become. What happened to cognitive thinking?

          • otlset

            Get your union thugs and IRS agents and go at ‘em o’laughlin!

          • donalddump

            O.K., I’ll wait until tomorrow. Heh

          • ishy

            Melly your “threats” are so Christ like.

          • ishy

            Right here…above this post melory. Lookup…no not at Jesus..look at computer screen. See where you threatened the other poster? Bad melory….not Christian at all. I hope you repent and try and be a better example for Christ in your future.

          • otlset

            Melory’s threat of course was going to be a torrent of truths conveyed to Mr. pig, who being unable to counter them with facts or reason would be reduced to tears.

          • PJ

            Monitoring blog comments is work, something the Palins don’t like too much, unless a camera is rolling and the paycheck is huge.

      • thomas o’laughlin

        You make no sense.
        It’s not a liberal/republican way.
        It’s about thinking… cognitive thinking.
        Everything is so black and white with you guys.
        One thing out of whack and you rush to the pitchforks.
        I thought Jesus and Bible stuff were your meme.
        Why are you all so paranoid and twitchy and so dang defensive?

        • otlset

          Here o’laughlin stereotypes to condemn conservatives. Why are conservatives (“you guys”) so “black and white” with you o’laughlin?

    • Patty

      Poor Tom. Letterman is just not funny!!! You ever hear the ole saying, if you point your finger a hundred come pointing back at you. You are judgmental and you are a finger pointer and you are also rather simple minded but you get to post too. :) See how fair this site is. :)

  • RushLpig

    oh quit your whining already. Conservatives and tea baggers give comedians so much material, what do you expect. Go pretend bear hunting or go do another reality show. Or perhaps you can upgrade that GED by going to 5 different colleges like your mother.,

    • http://twitter.com/CaffeineHound Need da Caffeine

      Hey Moron, it is just a culture of bias that you are willingly blinded to – Hollyweird lefty elites congregate together like any other group. Letterman and his ilk never have been as funny as they thought they were. BTW, three interesting recent studies showed conservatives have more testosterone and are more manly, test markedly higher on standardized intelligence quotient assessment tests, and as a demographic are far more unbiased, kindly and generous to charities. Game, set, match, loser.

      • donalddump

        Ya, we know Ann Coulter has more testosterone and is more manly. I’ll give you that. As for the rest of the so called “studies,” prove it.

        • otlset

          Hey Need da Caffeine, this dump guy must have been a subject in one of the studies! Yeah, pretty sure Ann Coulter could take him all right.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1273763631 Julie Dinkins-Borkowski

      yawn… trolling is sooo 2004….

      • ishy

        Yawn so you is your hyphenated name.

  • melory23

    So our Democrat President and Secretary of State refused security for our first homosexual Ambassador – not only refused – but told the rescue team to stand down and not help him and his staff? Guess he has served his purpose and our progressive President and Secretary of State had no use for him anylonger?

    And when asked why, our Democrat Secretary of State asked us “what difference does it make?” Wow! Our country’s policy has always been that we do not leave an American behind – I did not know that it does not apply to homosexuals – that we can leave them behind?! Ironic that the Democrats who pretend to care for gays are the ones that cause this tragedy to happen to our first homosexual Ambassador. But as our liberal Secretary of State said “what difference does it make!” He was only a homosexual… is that what Hillary is saying?

    • $51178099

      My point being that we should start judging liberals by their own standards.

      They did play the race and gender cards when we demanded answers from Susan Rice. Now suddenly they are not interested in identity politics?

      —————————–

      Actually, Michael Guest was the first publicly gay man to be confirmed by the US Senate to serve as a U.S. Ambassador under Bush. The first publicly gay ambassador,James Hormel, received recess appointment from Bill Clinton.

      Hillary supporters over at Hillbuzz has this take:

      http://hillbuzz.org/breaking-news-two-sources-in-chicago-diplomatic-circles-identify-ambassador-chris-stevens-as-gay-meaning-state-department-sent-gay-man-to-be-ambassador-to-libya-64291

    • HuntingMoose

      That is a really interesting fact.

      Now, i really do not think that him being gay was a factor in denying security in bengazi but it is an absolute great question to ask an the tank for obama drone.

      Because the alternative is that they have to admit that obama is just incompetent and a pathological liar

    • 1MiddleRoader

      Wow, Melory, that’s no way to show respect for a man who died in service to his country. If Chris Stevens was gay, he obviously did not want it to become public knowledge. But you and others chose not to respect his wishes. In fact, immediately after his murder, many on the right, before they found bigger things to pin on the administration, claimed that appointing a gay man to a Muslim country was tantamount to sending him to his death, (apparently ignoring the fact that ambassadors are government employees and cannot be discriminated against on the basis of sexual orientation). BTW, there is no evidence that he was raped and dragged through the streets. To my knowledge (someone please correct me if I missed it), Sean Hannity and others have never retracted those claims nor apologized to his family for being wrong.

      • $51252694

        Part 1

        The Dems playing the race and gender cards (w.r.t Rice) to avoid answering important questions about the blatant lies told about Stevens’ death, that is a way to show respect to a person who died in service to his country?

        It is a fact that Obama and Hilary denied Stevens’ multiple requests for security, and that they told the rescue team to stand down and not help Stevens. There is something for you to be outraged about. Protecting Hilary and Obama because they are Democrats – that is disrespectful to a man who died in service to his country. You know if this happened under a Republican Administration, you would not be here trying to hide the fact that Stevens was homosexual. You would not act as if telling the rescue team to stand down and not help is no big deal.

        Did you read the article I linked? They linked to videos and articles from reliable sources overseas that confirms that Stevens was raped and dragged through the streets, the way they did to Ghadafi. An inconvenient truth for the LSM, that is why they don’t report on it.

        Hilary’s supporters are not your typical “right-wingers”, they brought up the issue of Stevens’ sexual orientation. Suddenly liberals are not interested in talking about sexual orientation – hypocrites – they live and breath identity politics when they think they can use it as a weapon against the rest of the country. This time they can’t benefit from it, I suppose.

        But as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, years from now these same libs will talk about the year 2012 when the country was so “homophobic” that they would not provide security and help for a homosexual Ambassador under attack in a very dangerous country. They will conveniently leave out the part that all this happened under an ultra-left Government. Same way they are now talking about the Japanese being rounded up and placed in camps – leaving out the part that it happened under a Democrat president (FD Roosevelt).

        To be continued….

        • $51252694

          Part 2

          The Dems covering up and ignoring FOR POLITICAL REASONS the horrendous and most humiliating death of Stevens, that is a way to show respect to a man who died in service to his country?

          A man who probably would not have died if his requests for additional security were approved and if the rescue team were allowed to go in and rescue him.

          It was the ultimate betrayal – Stevens was assured by liberals all his life that they are the ones that care for people like him. How safe he must have felt to serve as Ambassador under a Democrat President and Secretary of State. I am almost sure he considered them friends, Hil and O.

          When they denied his requests for security, perhaps by then he started to see their true colors, and when he realized that what he feared were actually happening, his embassy was under attack, I can imagine his horror and sadness at the realization that help will not come, not from the Obama and Hilary that he now knew, the corrupt narcissists, that will not let anything stand in their way to acquire and hold on to power. When the whistleblower testified that Stevens said to him “we are being attacked”, my heart broke, because I knew when he said that, he already knew he was on his own, he could not trust on Hil and O for help.

          How do Hil and O live with themselves – have they no conscience? Who raised these soulless Democrats? These pro-infanticide “leaders”? Who should we fear more? These “leaders” or the people that vote them in to power?

          • $51252694

            I appreciate the down arrows! Confirmation that liberals are reading my posts, hopefully their eyes will be opened and they will learn something. The truth sets people free! So I am happy!

        • 1MiddleRoader

          No, Melory, I would feel EXACTLY the same if this had happened under Bush. A person’s sexual orientation is none of my business. Unless it had direct bearing on the attack, which it didn’t, I will let it remain so.
          Benghazi IS a big deal, and I DO blame Hillary and the State Dept for denying security requests. I’m reserving judgement on the rescue team, however. Former SECDEF Bob Gates said there wasn’t time for a rescue team. (Others disagree.) He did say something, though, that I’ve been wondering about, and hasn’t gotten much press. Libya has a lot of surface-to-air missiles that went missing after Qaddafi’s fall, so I have to wonder if the decision-makers were worried that that the attack was a ruse to shoot down a U.S. aircraft. My personal opinion is that former AFRICOM cmdr Carter Ham should be questioned again. He’s retired now, and might be freer to speak his mind. However,anyone, me included, who thinks they have all the answers on Benghazi, is mistaken. For example, there are reports (from McClatchy news) that Chris Stevens refused security twice (from Ham). (I’m not sure they’re reliable, and even if true, we don’t know the specifics.) The most important thing, in my opinion, is to make sure the recommendations, especially for security, are implemented as soon as possible, and to continue investigating.

          • $51252694

            “A person’s sexual orientation is none of my business.” Until the Dems can play politics with it, unfortunately for them in this instance they better not! They can’t risk the country finding out that they stood by silently while a homosexual ambassador was killed to cover up their corruption and imcompetence. But they still have the race and gender cards, and boy, are they using those!

            There are reports that Obama was running guns to the Muslim Brotherhood, that is why he did not want the rescue team to go to the safe house, out of fear that the gun running operation will be exposed.

            The whistle blowers testified that there was enough time to intervene, the attack took place over a period of almost 9 hours. The 2 brave men who disobeyed the order to stand down made it to the safe house in time and was killed because help was not coming – thanks to Obama and Hilary.

            “The most important thing, in my opinion, is to make sure the recommendations, especially for security, are implemented as soon as possible, and to continue investigating.” I get so tired of this political speak – always after the fact, we have to believe that they will do it right next time. Instead of getting to the bottom of how and why this happened! Who gave the order to stand down and WHY! Why the lies about a video and who came up with that lie! And hold those responsible for the death of these 4 Americans accountable! But Hil and O is going to get away with this, no justice for Stevens and the other 3 brave Americans. But there is a God.

        • $51252694

          Correction: FD Roosevelt was the racist Dem president that placed the Japanese in concentration camps after Pearl Harbor. I did a quick search on the internet, when this issue is discussed, it is hardly mentioned that FD Roosevelt was a Democrat. These “writers of history”, yawn….

      • $51252694

        If you are looking for apologies, seems to me this is where you should start: (Btw, Sean deals in the truth, he doesn’t owe anyone an apology)

        Ask Obama and Hilary to apologize to the families of Stevens and the others for all the lies, negligence and cover up in the death of their loved ones.

        To my knowledge Obama, Hilary and Rice have not even apologized for lying that a video caused the attacks, thereby giving cover to and letting the real attackers get away.

        They have not apologized to the innocent man, who btw is still in prison for something he did not do, for putting his life and the life of his family in danger by blaming him for the attack, knowing full well he was innocent.

        They have not apologized for the lives that were lost due to violence in the Middle East, caused by their lies.

        They have not apologized to the President of Libya who from the start told them that this was a terrorist attack.

      • $51252694

        Think about this:

        We have a president that had no problem blaming an innocent citizen for the gruesome deaths of 4 Americans to cover-up his own corruption and incompetence.

        He did so knowing full well this man was innocent! It did not bother him that he was putting the lives of this innocent man and his family in danger. WOW!

        He knew full well this kind of lie would set off a killing spree in Muslim countries. How safe are we with a president that can do something like that to an innocent citizen?

        • 1MiddleRoader

          An innocent man??? The video-maker was convicted of 4 felonies, including bank fraud and identity theft (prior to the video). He repeatedly violated his probation. He produced a hateful video, and several actors in the video said they were duped. You can argue that his sentence was harsher than other similar cases,but he is not an innocent man. In her NRA speech, Sarah Palin said that Hollywood producing films glorying violence was “freedom destroying itself.” I think the video maker fits into that category. Plus, he was not supposed to be acessing the Internet.

          The killing spree in the other Muslim countries WAS set off by the video. Attempts were made to tamp down the protests, which is pretty much the same thing the same thing the Bush adminstration did with the Danish cartoons in 2005-6.

          • otlset

            He is innocent of instigating the Benghazi attacks and murders with his video, as Hillary and O’Liar have publicly claimed in numerous venues for weeks afterwards.

            And don’t you love those excitable Muslims? Don’t insult them now, be careful, or they’ll kill you! Allahu-Akbar!!!

          • $51252694

            MR, with all due respect, it is people like you that I am scared off! Are you really that partisan? You enable your government to abuse citizens by defending their corrupt actions! Today it was this man, tomorrow it may be you or your loved ones, or another innocent citizen. Believe me, they will find something against you if they want to, like they did with this innocent man.

            As otlset already explained, this man is innocent of instigating the Benghazi attack, Obama is guilty as charged in my first post, scary!!! We would not have known about this person’s existence if Obama did not falsely accuse him to cover up his own corruption.

            I don’t know what is scarier, the fact that our president who is supposed to protect the citizens can abuse them like this, or the fact that we currently have a citizen in prison for criticizing Islam!

            Think about it Americans – pause and ponder: In America we have thrown a citizen in prison for criticizing Islam! The mind-numbed liberal robots probably think this is great!

            Blame his “criminal record” all you want, everybody knows why he really is in prison. Hil promised the families of the victims that she will see to that. Knowing full well that he was innocent! Scary!!

            Very few people even watched the video, I think at the time they started speaking about it it had around 9 views if I remember correctly. It could have been more, but it was an insignificant number.

            I paid attention so you are wrong, apart from the violence in Egypt, there was no violence in the ME until after Hilary and Obama started blaming the video. I knew they were instigating more violence to distract from Benghazi, so I paid attention. I know most of the people were killed after Hil and O brought attention to the video.

            Hitler said something about the sheeple, can’t remember it right now, bottom-line – tyrants love them! Until they have no use for them anymore.

          • 1MiddleRoader

            To you and Otlset: The video maker did not cause the Benghazi attack, but he played a part in inflaming tensions. When Ansar al Sharia claimed responsibility for the attack, it blamed the video. http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2012/09/ansar_al_shariah_issues_statem.php
            (This may have been a false claim by Ansar al Sharia but it could not be immediately discounted.)

            And yes, apart from Egypt, the actual protests in the other countries started after Obama and Clinton blamed the video. But they knew it was coming. The U.S. embassies around the globe were bracing for them.
            You are correct in that the initial showing IN JULY had only 9 or so viewers. But on Sept 8, ” Egyptian television firebrand Sheik Khaled Abdalla airs part of the the Arabic version of the clip on local channel Al Nas, condemning it harshly. The trailer’s YouTube view-count skyrockets.” http://theweek.com/article/index/233454/the-anti-islam-film-riots-a-timeline

            Call me crazy (or scary) but I will probably go to my grave believing 2 things that only moderates can believe:

            1. The “Who pushed the video” theme is a red herring and many in both the administration and intel community believed that it played some role.

            2) The Bush administration and many in the intel community believed there were WMD in Iraq.

          • $51252694

            You are a partisan leftist, pretending to be a moderate, you are just slicker than the others, you are not fooling me anymore.

            I believe you – the police’s sudden interest in this man – and his arrest shortly after the Benghazi attack had absolutely nothing to do with the most powerful man in the world, the POTUS, telling the world that his anti-Islam video is to blame for Benghazi.

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Mel, you’re just being ridiculous now. Many news reports immediately after the attack cited the video. Ok, initial info is often wrong, so forget those. But in the days and weeks
            afterward, there will still some reports linking it to the video. Here’s just one: 13 OCT: NYT, report from Benghazi: “To Libyans who witnessed the assault and
            know the attackers, there is little doubt what occurred: a well-known group of local Islamist militants struck without any warning or protest, and they did it in retaliation for the video. That is what the fighters said at the time,
            speaking emotionally of their anger at the video without mentioning Al Qaeda,Osama bin Laden or the terrorist strikes of 11 years earlier. And it is an explanation that tracks with their history as a local militant group determined to protect Libya from Western influence.”

            The ORIGINAL talking points that CIA drafted BEFORE all the revisions said the attack was spontaneous and inspired by the protests in Cairo. So to answer the “Who
            pushed the video?”, looks like it was CIA.

            And perhaps you misunderstood me about Ansar al Sharia’s possibly false claim. This is the SAME statement that has been used repeatedly by right wing to accuse Obama of lying. In other words, the terrorists said they participated in the “popular uprising,” and the conspiracy
            theorists only seize on the first part. And just because a group claims responsibility does not mean they are responsible. I used to work for the government, and the
            running joke in my office when someone did something careless or stupid (spilling coffee, for example), was “Don’t worry. Al Qaeda will claim
            responsibility.”

            There’s lots to be investigated re Benghazi. But
            the talking points aren’t one of them.

            As far as my being a leftist, I suppose if you added up all my views, I’d be a little left of center. But partisan, absolutely no way. I have defended many Bush
            administration actions. I think the folks who blame him for not preventing 9/11 are misguided. I often criticize Obama. I’m very much a “gray area” person; I think things are very rarely black and white. But, really so what I am a leftist? Oh, yeah, in your book that makes me morally bankrupt.

          • $51252694

            (I don’t know if it is my computer, or disqus, but the way it places the responses is confusing sometimes, not always sure which post you responded to.

            But if you wrote the above response to still maintain that the claims by the most powerful man in the world had nothing to do with the arrest of the video-maker, well, then, it sounds a little dishonest to me.

            Hilary did give her word to the families of the victims that she will personally see to it that this man be thrown in prison. But hey, it is not like Hilary and O have any power to make such things happen… There are those who think no-one takes Oblamer seriously, so there is that…)

            Back to our general discussion:

            So the NYT found people that told them what they wanted to hear, how convenient. NYT supports Obama, Obama had a difficult election coming up, etc. etc.

            It seems you are swayed by sources whose credibility cannot be confirmed, but you disregard the testimony of the two Americans ( who, btw, have a stellar record of serving their country) who risked everything to testify under oath about Benghazi.

            The talking points show that O and Hil are liars. It is understandable that Dems now want us to forget about them.

            “There’s lots to be investigated re: Benghazi” Exactly. Listening to the Dems, Hil and O-liar, I have yet to find evidence that they are interested in that.

            In my book anyone that supports and makes excuses for a pro-infanticide regime is morally bankrupt. Leftists do support such regime.

          • $51252694

            With NO evidence you find this man at least partly guilty for the attack. Yet with all the evidence against Hil and Obama you still can’t bring yourself to find them guilty of something, anything.

          • $51252694

            “He produced a hateful video,” . So what, this is America, he deserves to be thrown in prison for that? Leave Sarah out of this, she would never stand by and let someone be thrown in prison for exercising his 1st amendment rights.

            Surely you have seen the hate for Christianity displayed in “art”, so defended and admired by liberals in America. Shall we find an excuse to throw these haters in jail?

          • 1MiddleRoader

            He was jailed for probation violations NOT making the video. Personally, since posting on the Internet violated his probation, I don’t quite get why he wasn’t charged with that (might have been too hard to prove that he physically posted it himself), but, whatever, he could have gotten 3 years, and plea-bargained to only one. Do I support free speech? Yes. If he had been arrested for making the video, I’d be upset. But am I happy he’s back in jail for violating probation? Yes. If I really thought Americans who criticize Islam should be thrown in jail, I’d start with Pastor Terry Jones, who burned Korans (which sparked riots that killed many, including some UN workers), wrote a book called “Islam is of the Devil”, and also promoted and apparently showed all or part of video to his followers. Do I think that morally, he should have done those things? No. But legally, he has the right, at least in the U.S. The fact that he’s still out there, burning Obama and Bill Clinton in effigy, indicates to me that the First Amendment is alive and well.

          • $51252694

            “But the claim was contradicted by Mohammed Magariaf, president of Libya’s National Assembly, who said it had “nothing to do” with the attack. Evidence has mounted ever since that it was an organized attack on the U.S. by a group affiliated with al-Qaida.

            A witness at today’s House panel hearing on Benghazi, Gregory Hicks, the former deputy chief of mission in Libya, said his jaw dropped when he heard Rice blame the video.”

            Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/video-maker-blamed-for-benghazi-remains-jailed/#4tXQjGUTQZvkI1Ow.99

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Nothing new in that video. Note the phrasing “evidence has mounted ever since…”. All the evidence was not available immediately after the attack. And any intelligence professional worth his/her salt needs to analyze Magariaf’s (thanks for not making me look up the spelling!) statement in context. Did he say it for domestic consumption? Does he want more foreign money/aid to fight these terrorists? He is looking at difficult elections soon, is that a factor? People complain that the talking points were whittled down too much; I would argue that maybe they should have been whittled down even more, basically, to “We’re still investigating.” (but I realize that’s harder and harder to do in today’s world.)

          • $51252694

            “All the evidence was not available immediately after the attack” “We’re still investigating.” So you admit that Obama lied? He was confident that all the evidence was available, he told the world it was the video.

            Can you muster up some integrity and just admit that he lied, and that there is no evidence that anyone in the Intelligense community or anyone else told him it was a video! He and Hilary made it up to cover their own butt!

            He was willing to put an innocent man and his family’s life in danger – the least he can do is explain who told him it was a video that led to the attack, if he has nothing to hide, it will clear his name!

            That poor man and his family forever have that target on their back, thanks to Obama and Hilary. An apology may help the man and his fam, but the narcissist won’t do that.

          • $51252694

            duplication – blame disqus

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Oh, you walked into this one. First, I think the Libyan leader was telling the truth, and that appears to be the general consensus, but it is something people with much more knowledge/background have to consider .(Also, the domestic consumption thing is much more frequent in Muslim countries, Afghan Pres Karzai being the prime example.) And second, it is reasonable to question Obama’s motives. Frankly, I did. But I have seen nothing to substantiate that. It looks like a turf battle between State and CIA, with other issues, like compromising the investigation, also coming into play. I know you won’t believe that- you will always think there’s a smoking gun email out there, and who knows, there might be. But unless and until I see one, I won’t make accusations that I can’t back up.

          • $51252694

            delete because of duplication.

          • $51252694

            duplication – blame disqus

          • $51252694

            “And second, it is reasonable to question Obama’s motives. Frankly, I did. But I have seen nothing to substantiate that.” Of course!

            I will leave you with Bob Scheiffer, perhaps he will get through to you:

            “We’ve heard that the President said he didn’t find out about it until last week. Last week!

            Which qualified him for Washington’s fastest-growing club: the longer and longer list of officials who suddenly don’t know much about a lot of unpleasant
            things, from Benghazi to the Associated Press investigation.”

          • $51252694

            “It looks like a turf battle between State and CIA, with other issues, like compromising the investigation, also coming into play.” This is ROFLOL funny!

            Yes, if we had a president and administration known for their integrity, we could believe that Obama is sacrificing his reputation right now for the greater good of the country! Hilarious! There is so much I can say about this, so much evidence to the contrary of what you are suggesting, but by now I know you don’t care. So I’ll leave it at that.

          • $51252694

            Of course the Libyan leader was telling the truth! I never doubted that! Sadly, the general consensus is that our “leader” Barack Hussein Obama is a pathological liar.

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Melory, I am having the same computer problems as you. I can read your replies in my e-mail, but can’t find them on the blog. So I’m just replying here, and frankly, I think we both have beat this topic to death (and full disclosure, I have a paper to write for a class and have been using this blog to procrastinate, but I need to buckle down and “get’ r done.” You’ll be happy to knolw that it’s a completely non-political paper!)

            I’ll just make one last point and then try to let it go. If you’re going to accuse BO and Clinton of a cover-up, then at least be consistent and include fomer Gen Petraeus. He testified in Sept to same effect, and wrote (or approved) the original talking points.

            Now, very off-topic, but in a goodwill attempt to find something, anything we can agree on, I read that Sarah Palin thinks CNN’s Jake Tapper is good reporter. I don’t watch/read his reports alll that often, but from what I’ve seen, I agree!

          • $51252694

            Nope, Patraeus wanted nothing to do with the talking points. I guess you think his “resignation” also has absolutely nothing to do with Chicago politics.

            Sarah and Bristol are known to give credit where credit is due. If the left, or at least the “moderate” left, could not let the media tell them what to think of the Palins, and look at them objectively, they would see a humble, brave American woman that we all can be proud of.

            You can research the Alaska public documents and papers at the time of her governership, and see an objective and impressive record of Sarah Palin.

          • 1MiddleRoader

            I tried to resist commenting, but I can’t help it. Did you read the emails? They’re on-line. Petraeus’ objection to the talking points was that they did not include a reference to a cable CIA had sent about the protests in Cairo. In Sep. he testified that the attack grew out of a spontaneous demonstration; in Nov. he said he knew almost from the start that it was a terrorist attack. (That’s from Republican Peter King.) Apparently, the names of the Islamist terrorist groups involved were removed so as not to tip off the terrorists. (also tracks with emails). So, either that was the info the intel community had at the time; or the intel community had a valid reason for not revealing that they knew it was a pre-planned terror act (poss to protect the CIA covert op?) or Petraeus (and a ton of others) were complicit in the “cover-up”.

          • $51252694

            “Did he say it for domestic consumption? … He (Magariaf) is looking at a difficult election soon, is that a factor?” You can ask the exact same questions about Obama if you were just not so partisan! Obama was also facing a difficult election.

            I do not have tolerance for dishonest people, I used to enjoy talking to you, but right now you are acting no different than the Obama robots. If you can look critically at Margariaf’s words and actions why in the name of Sam Hill is it so difficult for you to do the same with O-liar? Because he is a Democrat?

            I am wasting my time, I still hope that one day I will meet a real honest and “moderate” Democrat.

      • $51252694

        I knew playing a little identity politics will get liberals’ attention – it is their language – Finally they are paying attention and we can talk about Benghazi!

        That is a way to show respect to a man who died in service to his country – SPEAK OUT AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE INJUSTICE DONE TO HIM AND THE OTHERS!

  • sanguine33

    The website I left a message on for someone who was on radio today had a link which linked to here.

    No way to email you. I don’t use Facebook or Twitter. So I will post here and hope you see it.

    Back when your mother ran, if I serve Him, I was compelled to ask those around her to let us pray for your protection. I would need to check the letters to see the
    specifics. I was also asking them to ask your mother to stand for the soldiers.
    One gentleman responded. One also tried to help. Didn’t work.

    Somehow I ended up on here tonight. You probably won’t see this post. If you do, please know I will obey anything He orders, if I serve Him. It was strong back then to ask them to let us pray for your protection.

    I wish you would set aside a place here where those of us seething over how a young woman could be savaged for political gain, in America, could place one line prayers for you. I assume I am not the only one who was leveled to try and gain right to pray for His intercession for you. I could easily submit a one line prayer on your behalf if you set aside a place for it.

    The hatred poured out against you for political gain should have been countered by prayer. I wasn’t allowed.

    Prayer says post this, so I do. I just need to add those attacking you should
    be the ones cringing before they do. He should be protecting you. You should not be fearing what will be said to hurt you.

    I will try to check back to see if you opt for a spot for receiving one line prayers on your behalf. Because intercession on your behalf was barred, what young
    women saw was that if they were assailed for political gain, they would be
    abandoned. You are owed.

  • http://twitter.com/citrussage Renny

    Leno got some good ones in.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sue-Lynn/1831312967 Sue Lynn

    Right on Bristol…what is going on in not funny!

  • http://www.facebook.com/david.l.dempsey David L Dempsey

    Letterman is a Joke. The only time I watch his Show is when he has a Guest that I want to see, and I only watch that portion of the Show with the Guest … then I change Channels … back to Jay Leno or another Show.

  • HuntingMoose

    May be it is proof that they knew the targeting of the IRS all along and just did not wanted to get audited as well.

  • Britney

    I don’t see what the big deal is. Of course liberal comedians are going to make fun of conservatives more, and of course conservative comedians are going to make fun of liberals more.

  • GarColga

    What’s funny is that Bristol wants us to believe she wrote this post and is a “conservative” who reads the National Review! I seriously doubt that Bristol has much of a clue of what’s going on in the world today, certainly not enough to have an informed opinion.

    • ishy

      LOL! That is so true. Bristol “reading” the National Review…now that made me laugh.

    • $51252694

      Projecting?

      • ishy

        Hope you’re following Christ’s example today Mel!

        • $51252694

          Yep, speaking the truth!

          • ishy

            With threats? Not very Christian of you Mel. Please don’t be a hypocrite.

          • $51252694

            What threats? Threatening to tell the truth? The truth always makes liberals cry, you have been here long enough, you have seen it. In fact, it seems to me you are still crying.

            Btw, your anti-Christian bigotry is showing.

          • ishy

            Scroll down. You wrote to RushPig:

            “You are going to cry when I am done with you. Your luck that I don’t have time today.”

            Yes that sounds just like something the Lord would say.

      • GarColga

        Haha right. Look we’ve been exposed to Bristol since 2008, through DWTS, and a couple failed reality shows. She is uneducated, monosyllabic, and bless her heart she just doesn’t seem very bright or interesting. Her blog posts clearly are not written by her, it’s entirely possible she doesn’t even read her own blog as the writing would be beyond her comprehension.

        • $51252694

          Still projecting?

          • GarColga

            Do you even know what “projecting” is?

          • $51252694

            Oops, you did it again!

        • otlset

          “Her blog posts clearly are not written by her…”

          Got any proof Fry? I think Leela writes your posts.

          • GarColga

            The proof is in the pudding!

  • mercysaidno

    I have. And have you noticed that the only group it is okay to slam is Christians? But, take heart, Jesus told us to expect it. He was hated without a cause and so shall we be. I consider myself to be in good company. John 3:19 says, “And this is the judgment, that light has come into the world and yet men have loved darkness more than light, because their works were evil.” Little Bristol, make sure you are in God’s will and you will be fine always.

    • ishy

      Actually historians have recently discovered that Christian “persecution” was mostly made up by the Catholic Church in order to gain sympathy and membership back in the day :) Guess old habits are hard to break.

      • otlset

        Meanwhile Christians in Egypt and other areas of the Muslim mideast are being harrassed, driven out of their homes and communities and even killed as I write.

        • ishy

          What does that have to do with bashing David Letterman! Stay on topic!!!!

          • otlset

            Just responding to your already off-topic and ignorant response to mercysaidno’s view of which group is often the target of the late-night comedians, including and of course featuring Letterman.

          • ishy

            Speaking of ignorant….like most conservatives Mercy has a big chip on her shoulder. How silly of her to think that late night comedians go after Christians because that’s the only group its ok to “slam”. Geez how about 1…just 1 example of a late night comedian slamming Christianity? Maybe I should download all the monologues from last nights talk shows…I bet they made fun of the IRS and government, celebrities, fads and many other silly news items. I bet the didn’t talk about Jesus or Churches or Christians at all.

  • http://twitter.com/johnnorton7 john norton

    Letterman is an embarrasement for all with any sense of morality,for he hasn’t any… !

  • 1MiddleRoader

    My response to this post is: So what? Late-night comics tend to make more jokes about Conservatives. Talk radio leans way to the right. “Hollywood elites” tend to be left-wing; country singers tend to be right-wing. Welcome to America!
    Comedians’ jokes reflect, at least to some degree, their political bias. But Bristol takes the study to mean that they don’t use Obama jokes in order to protect him. Really??? Do you really think David Letterman sits around at meetings and says, “Oh, that’s a hilarious joke about Obama! But I’m not gonna use it. Gotta protect the Prez.” Late-night TV is way too cutthroat to discard good jokes.

    I was also surprised that Bristol, given her personal (and understandable)
    animosity toward Letterman, did not mention that he is the “prime offender”. When you take him out of the equation, the margin of bias narrows considerably. I also think one can read too much into these joke studies. For example, the
    same organization listed Anthony Weiner as the 2nd most frequent
    target (after Obama) in 2011. I don’t think that is partisan bias; it’s just that those jokes almost write themselves (although, in my opinion, they get old fast.)

    Interestingly, the same organization conducted a 6-month study in 2010 (which included Letterman) in which it found that Obama was “by far” the most frequent joke target (Sarah Palin was 2nd.) http://www.cmpa.com/pdf/media_monitor_q4_2010.pdf
    Personally, I don’t find that surprising- the current president is in the news a lot and lends himself to topical humor. The subsequent study that Bristol cites was when Romney was somewhat of a newcomer to the news scene – to comics, he was “fresh blood”.
    Pointing out left-wing bias in late-night comedy is all fine and good. But I repeat, so what? If you don’t like those shows, grow a thicker skin, or change the station. Same goes for talk radio. Some on the left want the “Fairness Doctrine,” which was eliminated over 20 yrs ago, to be reinstated. I don’t. While I might wish there were more political diversity on the radio, (just as Bristol wishes there were more jokes against liberals on late-night TV), I don’t think it should be legislated. That’s what ratings are for.

    • $51252694

      “political diversity on the radio” It was tried – people just could not stomach the leftist hate and lies – so they went out of business. That is why they want to force it down the people’s throat with the wrongly-named “Fairness Doctrine”.

    • $51252694

      They do not ridicule (that is what they do to conservatives) the president and Islamists – because they fear retaliation – the aforementioned 2 are very thin-skinned. Leftist will demand they be fired (they are behind Leno leaving), O-thin-skin will put the IRS on them and Islamists will go on a killing spree.

      So the cowards and bullies go for the good-natured and peaceful conservatives and Christians, also because it is PC to do so.

      They also do not want to be called racists.

      • 1MiddleRoader

        Regarding Leno, I’m not that interested in, or knowledgeable about, late-night TV battles, but I personally haven’t come across any evidence that leftists are behind it. I suspect the major “bias” in the decision is against the older demographic (which I am part of). However, not particularly proud of this, but this older person has been known to watch Disney Channel!!! (BTW, Disney’s “Good Luck Charlie” is kind of a cute family show and I think Conservatives would like it.)

        • $51252694

          Even if you came across such evidence you would probably still deny it, judging from how you are covering for corrupt Obama and Hilary.

          In 2009 when Leno had Sarah on, liberals were furious and vowed to get rid of him one way or the other. Come on, you read Huffingtonpost, you know exactly what I am talking about. On top of it, he made one Obama joke too many.

      • PJ

        Sarah quit because of complaints against her and constantly plays the victim of the media. Prime example of a thin-skinned conservative, or is this a conspiracy of retaliation on the conservative side?

        • otlset

          None of this is true of course. Sarah actually is a victim of much of the media, reflected in false hit-and-run BS memes by those like PJ above, who apparently gobble up the garbage that comes down the lamestream media chute for consumption by gullible fools like him/her. I hope you wake up soon PJ and stop mindlessly eating media crap, for your own good as well as ultimately the country’s.

          • ishy

            OMG are you that douchebag Orson Scott Card?

          • otlset

            Never heard of him.

          • ishy

            LOL

          • PJ

            Not true that she quit? Not true she said she quit because of lawsuits against her? What media do you consume?

          • otlset

            She didn’t quit because of merely ‘complaints’ against her, she quit because of the mounting number of completely bogus lawsuits against her which 1) was draining her modest (at the time) financial capabilities to the point that she knew bankruptcy lay ahead if she didn’t take steps to pay down the legal costs, and 2) these mounting BS lawsuits were diverting her time and energy away from her duties as governor to the detriment of the state. So she resigned for the benefit of her state (leaving the governorship in the hands of like-minded Parnell — who when he took office *no more of those bogus lawsuits were even filed* — surprise surprise — which clearly showed that the phony lawsuits were only intended to impede her work and reputation. In other words she was *specifically targeted* by the scum you ally yourself with in your PDS mental disease) as well as her family’s benefit to avoid bankruptcy.

            What media do you consume? Probably just the Comedy channel like all the other misinformed dufusses who think they know it all.

        • Shannon

          Actually, Sarah Palin quit because of incessant bogus accusations of ethics violations that forced her to waste tax-payer money continually defending herself. She quit because she considered not wasting her constituents’ money and protecting her family against vicious media attacks more important than her immediate political career.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mceverlast Michael Cummings

    I will never serve my purpose
    I will never finish the fight
    Because Zyklon B is cheaper than my paycheck

  • http://www.facebook.com/mceverlast Michael Cummings

    Excuse me jerk

  • http://www.facebook.com/mceverlast Michael Cummings

    Tom O’laughlin, unwed mothers? Did you get that line from a pron site? Last I heard Bristol and I made plans and had a baby with one on the way. Obama is terribly sickly violent that is at least part of the reason no one verbally attacks him. He’s working with the Clinton Administration so that’s a given. And working with white supremists which is not at all what I expected. Hope and change and forward were all political lines and haven’t at all amounted to more. But hopefully the actors and actresses and all of the military will understand that Obama doesn’t work for them if it doesn’t fit his agenda of muslim, anti-Semitic, peace through more war than anyone, reducing the deficit through making it unsurmountable. God bless the Palins for continuing to have morals and values…any moral code or value code would be appreciated from Obama at this point. We’ll be waiting for your call Bristol.

  • Melissa
  • ishy

    I know the Palins are very thin skinned about Letterman ( and certainly don’t practice what Jesus taught about loving our enemies)….but regardless I do find it extremely hypocritical that they find the time to condemn late night comedians but over look stories like the following:

    http://aattp.org/right-wing-radio-host-wants-to-shoot-hillary-clinton-in-the-vagina/

    • 1MiddleRoader

      Disgusting and disturing sound bite. I admit, I’d never heard of Pete Santilli before (and kinda wish I still haven’t), but it should be noted that his “radio show” is an internet show, which (I think) doesn’t need to conform to FCC rules. I think if his show was on AM/FM radio, it wouldn’t last a week.

    • $51252694

      So the libs have found something to be outraged about! Pardon the country for not caring about your fake outrage about some “rightwinger”. At least that “rightwinger” does not have the blood of 4 Americans on his hands like your president and Secretary of State. At least he is not responsible for the slaughtering of newborn babies in Dem-approved abortion clinics.

      • $51252694

        First time I heard about this person, Pete Sintalli. Right-wingers do not know him. He is probably a liberal plant, paid by Soros, because they can’t find the kind of violent teapartier that they have been warning the country about for 4 years now. So they came up with their own “rightwinger”.

        And they have to distract from all the scandals, especially Benghazi.

        • ishy

          Everything is a conspiracy with you. I guess you think what Ted Nugent said is ok Mel? Certainly much much worse than anything Letterman or the Late Nite talk show hosts have ever said. Nugent is an entertainer. Why does he get a pass? Why doesn’t Bristol comment about the awful things he says? Why does her mother “pal” around with him?

          • $51252694

            You sure are obsessed with one Ted Nugent, I know of his existence, but I don’t know him, I don’t care about him, I have never listened to him. So did he “jokingly” wish for your teenage daughter to be raped? If he did, he is a creep like Letterman. But why don’t you forgive him and move on, isn’t that the advice you gave Bristol?

            Why don’t you comment about your president voting THREE times AGAINST medical care for infants, ADVOCATING for them to be left to DIE, that is your Mr -Healthcare- for- all “we must take care of the least amongst us”-president.

          • ishy

            I will forgive him as soon as you forgive Letterman. And in fact you should forgive everyone and not hate anyone. I am not a Christian so I don’t have to live by your rules btw.

            And just so you know Letterman apologized for his comments. Haven’t seen any apology for Nugents multiple death threats. Of course that doesn’t stop Sarah from palling around with him does it!

          • $51252694

            I did not know I am that important to you. No, forgive him whenever you want to, take responsibility for something will you!

            I don’t hate anyone, look at those fingers pointing back at ya!!

            I have not seen apologies for any of the death threats against Bush and Sarah Palin. The truth of Obama palling around with terrorists has really hurt you, hasn’t it!

          • ishy

            Ha ha ha you’re about as hypocritical as your idol Sarah. And please update your references…fingers pointing back at you? My god how old are you???? 50???

          • $51252694

            And so the meltdown starts…

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Please explain what’s wrong with being 50.
            It’s the cat’s pajamas, you young whippersnapper houligan! :)

          • ishy

            :)

  • $51252694

    What is funny, Bristol, are all these trolls suddenly admitting that, of course, Letterman-them are biased leftist! Used to be they told us they were just comedians doing what comedians do, no bias, nothing political! LOL!

    At the same time they are also trying to maintain that these creeps are just comedians doing what comedians do, no bias, nothing political – I know! Confusing!!

    There was a time, not so long ago, when these hypocrites were not so understanding of comedians…… Remember their reaction to Reggie Brown Obama Impersonator at the Republican conference last year? Oh, how they bemoaned the “racism”. These libs surely can dish it out, but they can’t take it!

    • ishy

      You forgot to take your meds again dear.

      • $51252694

        disqus

      • $51252694

        Btw, isn’t it time for your free contraceptives and frappe at Planned Parenthood, little ward of the state?

        • ishy

          I bet you have an oil painting of the “Duke” in your house don’t you? And no doubt a Reagan calendar.

          • $51252694

            Pathetic, perhaps next time you’ll come up with something better.

            Bye.

      • $51252694

        That is such a mind-numbed robot thing to say!

  • $51252694

    Rush played clips of people interviewed in Oklahamo and I was touched by their beautiful testimonies of God’s grace and love, even in a time of tragedy, they did not whine about their circumstances, they were just full of praise for God! It reminded me of this scripture:

    Habakkuk 3:17-19

    17 Though the fig tree should not blossom
    And there be no fruit on the vines,
    Though the yield of the olive should fail
    And the fields produce no food,
    Though the flock should be cut off from the fold
    And there be no cattle in the stalls,
    18 Yet I will exult in the Lord,
    I will rejoice in the God of my salvation.
    19 The Lord God is my strength,
    And He has made my feet like hinds’ feet,
    And makes me walk on my high places.

    • ishy

      I liked the clip where Wolf Blitzer asked a woman holding a baby if she “thanked the Lord” and she replied that actually she was an atheist. Good for her! Why anyone would be thanking the Lord for letting such a disaster happen and kill so many innocent lives is beyond me.

      • $51252694

        You liked that, I like the other, so what seems to be the problem. You are quite the bigot.

        • ishy

          Who said there was a problem? Your conservative paranoia has really gotten the best of you hasn’t it? I’m fascinated by the conservative mindset….whether you are born that way or is it years of indoctrination through peer pressure, fear and religious dogma. thoughts?

          • $51252694

            LOL! What do you know about “thoughts”!

          • ishy

            Brilliant response Guest!

          • otlset

            I used to very liberal, all through my school and especially college years. But afterwards as I became more responsible for myself and others, and especially after I started my own small business, through time it became clear how the “real” world works. It became clear there are two kinds of people in this country — those who work, pay taxes and pay into our system, and those who mostly don’t pay taxes and take from the system. It became clear as day to me, as I struggled getting my business going and paying taxes and getting nothing in the way of “benefits” from the government in return, while many around me did not work (for whatever reason) yet received those green government benefit checks on schedule. That realization made me want the government to be more accountable (and thrifty) with the money I worked so hard for, then sent to the government as tax. I became a conservative, aghast at the now rampant waste and uselessness of much of the government’s spending.

          • $51252694

            Good luck, hope you can prevent the trolls from turning the place into a liberal cesspool. It seems every time we clean out the place and leave – just to come back and find a new infestation of trolls.

            I am going to delete my account now – was just waiting for someone to come in and help keep the place clean. Sad, that the libs are almost successful in dragging the place down to their level.

            Till we meet again one day, somewhere in cyberspace!

          • ishy

            Otlset when you look at the majority that voted for Obama you can’t seriously believe none of those people work hard, pay taxes and contribute to our society. If you only see 2 kinds of people you aren’t looking very hard. I don’t disagree with you about waste and fraud but to define liberals vs conservatives as people who work and people who take is just no true and you know it. Besides statistics show that the red states have the highest incidence of citizens getting benefits from the government. If your side doesn’t accept this and continues to run on the demonstrably false argument of Romney’s 47% then you will continue to lose elections.

          • otlset

            Wowee I just heard the news that our racist Attorney General Eric “I don’t remember” Holder actually *did* sign the warrant to spy on reporter James Rosen and his parents. So of course Obama will have Holder investigate himself on this. Huhhhhhh??????? I swear they’re all a pack of lying scoundrels. I wonder how much longer until Obama throws Holder under the bus, if he does. But at any rate, the walls are closing in on Obama, despite all the efforts now from his underlings to shield and protect him. “No, I don’t believe anyone told him.”

            At any rate, to ishy I realize there are many liberals who like myself work (most likely not near as hard though I’d wager, heh. A great number of them have government jobs too.) and pay taxes, but I was referring to my transformation from believing the liberal view that bigger government is better, that government should provide and give us what we need, keep us healthy, in other words be a substitute parents and family for everyone in a way — that government should have a larger role in arranging and regulating people’s lives. What I didn’t realize then was that the greater the government with all it’s requirements, regulations and standards (now to the point of excess — leading to waste, fraud, unnecessary duplication, and inefficiency in my opinion), the less personal liberty or freedom that means to an individual. Thus I now believe in less government which allows for more personal liberty and freedom, which itself almost forces one to accept personal responsibility for their lives which stimulates personal industry — the opposite of laying that responsibility on the government, which produces dependency and trying to get away with doing as little as possible because, hey, the gubmint takes care of me! This is the theoretical basis for my view. I like being independent. I like being free. I’ll pay my fair share of taxes for the general good, but then leave me alone. Go away with all that PC social engineering and crap.

            And I still feel there is a large element of unfairness in the fact that I have to work so hard just to pay my quarterly taxes to the government, with nothing in return really except the same government infrastructure features that even non-taxpayers enjoy, while *many* others I have personally witnessed or know are living actually fairly well on various government benefits while not having to sweat coming up with dough to pay the IRS. In a way, I’m a slave to the government, in so far as if I don’t pay my taxes, they will come after me and MAKE me pay, with penalties. You betcha. And the money goes who knows where in the gigantic bureaucracy we call government. Much of it is wasted.

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Although some of your points are valid, I take your comment about government jobs personally. Yeah, I know it’s a common phrase, and I’ve used it myself in jest- “good enough for govt work”. So if you were joking, or even sort of joking, OK. But I worked for the govt for over 30 yrs. Yeah, I made good money, but I could have made lots more in private industry. For my last 10 yrs at the govt, I worked rotating shifts, meaning lots of night, weekend, and holiday hours (Yes, we did get extra pay for that). We also could be called in at any time. We had to be polygraphed, etc. regularly, had to submit yearly financial disclosures, we had random drug tests. In govt intel jobs, you can’t talk specifically about what you do, even to your spouse. People say you can’t get fired from the govt, and that may be true for some offices but I know for a fact that it wasn’t true where I worked. Also, many ex-military people find employment in the govt. Many in the govt serve in dangerous parts of the world (I didn’t). Some with clandestine jobs gave their lives for this country, and are never recognized for that, except within the walls of the agency where they work. I don’t care if Letterman or whoever makes jokes about govt. workers. But I do care if people really believe that govt workers are a bunch of lazy folks who push papers around. While most of America is enjoying their Memorial Day cook-outs, remember that there are some govt workers who are hard at work trying to keep us safe.

          • otlset

            From the sound of it, you represent my tax dollars well-spent! So thank you for your service. Now let’s see if we can eliminate useless waste and fraud in government, and try our best to trim things all the way around — it’s absolutely necessary now that the debt is relentlessly and dangerously racing out of our control.

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Agreed.

          • 1MiddleRoader

            I know this was addressed to Guest, but since you
            asked for thoughts, and brain research is one of my personal interests (although I’m not a scientist, not
            even close), there are studies indicating that the brains of conservatives and liberals are physically different (not particularly in good/bad ways). Some examples: In liberals the part of the brain associated with tolerance to uncertainty tends to be bigger, in conservatives, the part
            associated with sensitivity to fear is bigger. (I fit into lib category there!) Conservatives react more strongly to negative images, such as a person eating worms, that libs. (Hmm, I might be a conservative here.) Conservatives tend to sleep better and have more mundane dreams than
            libs, who tend to have more bizarre dreams. (I’m a lib in that category!) Libs tend to have lower life satisfaction (Yikes, maybe it’s sleep deprivation!) : )

            That all said, these are just tendencies, not absolutes, and it still doesn’t answer whether the brains are that way from birth, or develop that way over time (nature vs nurture). It would be interesting to do long-term studies from childhood to adulthood; don’t know if that’s being done, but I suspect it is. (BTW, this info comes from procon.org , an interesting website that I just stumbled across.) On thing I’ve always found interesting is that both sides like to accuse the other side of being stupid, but you don’t have to be a scientist to know that there are very bright and very stupid people on both sides.

          • melory3

            So according to this “study”, “fearful” conservatives have sweet dreams, but it is the “fearless” libs that have the nightmares! LOL.

            The study makes libs look like sociopaths! And conservatives like the normal, healthy people that they are!

            There are those who say liberalism is a mental disorder, they will be pleased to know that the study you referenced proves them right!

            Reminds me of a discussion I read long ago about sociopaths and fear:

            “For example: fMRI studies on the brain activity of diagnosed sociopaths vs. non-sociopathic, healthy individuals suggest that their lack of empathy plays a role in the tolerance/threshold for stimulation. When presented with the words, ‘Lamp, chair, cat, dog, rape, murder, cup, pen’ in sequence, normal brains “pick out” the emotionally loaded words like “rape” and “murder” and because it evokes negative emotionality, normal individuals’ brains reacted at a higher, agitated level than sociopaths. The words “lamp” and “rape” were emotional and reactive equivalents to sociopaths. They felt no different about the word “rape” than “lamp”.
            When these words were paired with visual representations (pictures), the violent pictures had no effect on sociopaths, but resulted in elevated levels of agitation in non-sociopathic individuals. This suggests that sociopaths’ lack of empathy plays a role in the need for high stimulation, resulting in a higher threshold for frightening stimuli.

            Source(s):

            Getting my Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology

            5 years ago”
            Yahoo answers.com

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Yeah, I thought you might like that! :)
            Slightly off-topic, but I saw a similar study on hoaders vs “normal” people. When shown images of things like their teddy bears, dolls, etc. the “emotional” part of the brains of both groups was active. But when shown crumpled up receipts, old soda cans, etc., the emotional part of only hoarders’ brains lit up in a similar way, (but not the regular people). So (I’m guessing) that’s why they have such a hard time getting rid of their piles of useless stuff. Our brains are funny things, no?

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Just FYI, the study’s results are a bit more balanced than I portrayed them. (I was going for the humor). Here’s the actual source.
            http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818

          • melory3

            I have read the study, libs are using it all over the internet to “back up” their claims that conservatives are “fearful” and “fear-mongerers” (hilarious, coming from the people who not so long ago told us that Doomsday was coming because of sequestration. I can go on and on about their fear-mongering over the years that is still continuing till this day).

            What liberals don’t understand is what the study is really saying about them!

            As to the “study” or perhaps the libs interpretation that it suggests that liberals are “thinkers” – I guess that explains their love for the tabloids and why they are so easily indoctrinated. Now we know!

          • melory3

            Now we understand better why liberals have no problem with infanticide and the murder of babies in the womb:

            “MRI studies on the brain activity of diagnosed sociopaths
            vs. non-sociopathic, healthy individuals suggest that their lack of empathy plays a role in the tolerance/threshold for stimulation.”

          • 1MiddleRoader

            Oh, Melory, these studies do not make either side look like pyschopaths or sociopaths, or lacking empathy, and you well know that! Plus, some libs are pro-life and vice versa.

          • melory3

            Liberals love to use these “studies” against conservatives, but can’t take it when we respond in kind.:)

  • James A. Tyler

    Problem is that people like Seth Meyers, Jimmy Fallon, Craig Ferguson, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth McFarlane, David Letterman, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and, particularly, Bill Maher, want to have their cake and eat it too. They are dreadful at hiding not only their bias, but their wishes to be political schills for the Democrats, and yet retreat to the “I’m just a comedian not to be taken seriously” camp when they are called on their supercilious BS. Even more sickening is the look on their face they have when they deign to poke fun at the President when every other outlet has finally made it clear that he’s screwed up; this look on their faces as if they were eigth graders standing in front of the class reciting the Gettysburg Address for extra credit waiting for a pat-on-the-back from the teacher (“hey look everybody! I’m making fun of the President!”)

    • $51252694

      Well said!

  • the_original_tom

    Ever notice that, if your last name is Palin, you’re always offended by something and you are always a victim.

  • the_original_tom

    Ever notice that, if your last name is Palin, you’re always offended by something and you always are playing a victim?

  • the_original_tom

    Ever notice that, if your last name is Palin, you’re always offended by something and you’re always playing “the victim”?

  • the_original_tom

    Ever notice that, if your last name is Palin, you’re always offended by something and you’re always playing the “victim”?

  • the_original_tom

    Ever notice that — if your last name is Palin — you are always playing the victim and always offended about something or someone?

    • otlset

      Posting the same thing five times over makes you the_original_idiot.

  • Amy

    Bristol doesn’t have the cahonies to comment on comments about junk she doesn’t even write! The Palins 15 minutes is up!!

    • otlset

      15 minutes *are* up Amy.

      Geez, the intelligence level of liberal trolls these days is sinking faster than Holder’s credibility!


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