Worthwhile Reads: Another Look at Abortion

What the Right Gets about Abortion and the Left Doesn’t Get, on Away Point

Reproductive rights leaders are worried about an intensity gap between Millennials who support and oppose abortion. Frankly, we deserve it. For the past twenty years, while pro-choice advocates muttered about statistics and privacy and tested make-nice language like “nobody is pro-abortion” or “let’s make it safe, legal and rare,” anti-choice advocates have created a gut-level aversion to abortion in a whole generation of young Americans. Most Millennials have experienced the billboards. What they haven’t experienced is the gut-wrenching stories of real people—people they know and love—whose lives are more whole because they were able to choose. If you want to change the game, get out of the closet with your abortion story, or your mother’s story, or your grandmother’s story. Get up your nerve by watching videos or reading stories posted at the 1 in 3 campaign. Our sometimes-beautiful sometimes-heartbreaking sometimes-proud sometimes-ordinary stories are the stuff of real personhood.

The Only Good Abortion is My Abortion, by Maggie Koerth-Baker

There is no universal good option. There is no universal bad option. But for each individual there is an option that is the least bad. Here is why I am pro-choice. If someone has to make a decision and the best they can hope for is the least-bad option, I don’t believe I have any business making that choice for them.

My abortion is not a good abortion. It’s just an abortion. And there’s no reason to treat the decision I have to make any differently than the decisions made by any other woman.

 

About Libby Anne

Libby Anne grew up in a large evangelical homeschool family highly involved in the Christian Right. College turned her world upside down, and she is today an atheist, a feminist, and a progressive. She blogs about leaving religion, her experience with the Christian Patriarchy and Quiverfull movements, the detrimental effects of the "purity culture," the contradictions of conservative politics, and the importance of feminism.

  • Emilia

    I personally think the abortion issue is more nuanced than either the pro-choice or pro-life side portrays it to be. For example, there are many people, including myself, who believe in a woman’s right to abortion but don’t equate the procedure to a tonsillectomy. Or who feel that an abortion by a married woman who isn’t ‘ready’ for children is more morally ambiguous than an abortion performed on a nine-year-old rape victim (both real-life stories). Or who don’t have a real problem with those who say they support another woman’s right to abortion but wouldn’t have one themselves (by the way, I can’t say in all honesty that I’d never have an abortion, which is a moot point anyway because at 43 I’m probably not fertile and because I’m on a 99.99% effective birth control method). On the other hand, most North Americans wouldn’t want to see abortion made illegal, no matter how ambivalent we might feel about it personally. So it’s a complex issue.

    • Carol

      The abortion issue is no more nuanced than this: it’s all about politics, class and economics. Once we get beyond the blah blah blah morality this and blah blah blah exception that, it’s all about getting votes, demonizing poor people and keeping women home and impoverished, keeping men tied down worrying only about another mouth to feed, and not thinking about improving working conditions or asking for a raise. Proof? Made in China. Call centers in India. Where there is quite a different outlook on abortion there, and that’s where the money and jobs are going. Who is complaining? Hello? Anyone? No, as long as they get their geegaws cheaper, they’re fine with sending their money there.

      If people really cared about “fetal life” they’d ban fertilization clinics. They’d protest on 5th avenue in Manhattan where wealthy women go for their “d&c’s”, and where ever so called “pro life” politicians send their mistresses and daughters for their abortions.

      And, every clinic doctor knows that pro life protesters quietly exit the protests for their abortions. Everyone, say it with me, you know the words: “There should be 4 exceptions, rape, incest, life of the mother and me” Oh, they say, I’m not like THEM, I’m DIFFERENT. This time it’s OK because it’s ME.

      • Liberated Liberal

        Carol, do you have any reading material to suggest to me for information regarding pro-life politicians and their ties to that abortion clinic? That sounds confrontational, but I totally believe you! I’m just fascinated and interested to find proof for those kinds of activities that we all know is going on. I’m a vehement pro-choicer and any info would be so helpful. I tend to be ill-equipped to have real life conversations with so-called “pro-lifers” because I’m simply not good at arguing. I’m trying to eat up the information and gather as much reading material as I can.

      • Paula G V aka Yukimi

        Perhaps this will give you some ammunition about the hypocrisy:
        http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html

      • Carol

        Liberated – that is such a great question, thanks for the link, Paula!

      • Liberated Liberal

        Thanks Paula! Great start. I’m printing it out to have it handy. I would love, love, love, love if somebody were able to prove “pro-life” politicians’ involvement in abortion. Somebody needs to hire private investigators or something. That would be brilliant :D

    • Petticoat Philosopher

      Oh how tired I am of hearing people sanctimoniously state that THEY recognize the NUANCES of the abortion issue, unlike the highly mythologized “pro-choice movement,” which is apparently composed of harpies shrieking at every woman who isn’t positively thrilled at the prospect of getting an abortion.

      I’m sorry, but please get over yourself. Plenty of people in the “pro-choice movement” see an abortion as more emotionally charged than a tonsillectomy. Plenty of women, including some pro-choice ACTIVISTS that I know would not choose abortion for themselves. There is not a fixed set of feelings and opinions that you must subscribe to in order to be pro-choice. The label encompasses a very wide range of attitudes. Are there some pro-choice people who are so set in their own attitudes that they don’t recognize the validity of other attitudes, even those of people who share their same basic outlook? Sure! There are such people on every side of every issue there is. But to characterize all that is pro-choice by these people is unfair and inaccurate. If you believe in a woman’s right to choose, you are pro-choice. No wonder we’ve failed so miserably at getting our message across when half or more of the people that fit that description are willing to sell the other half down the river for supposedly not being “nuanced” enough. Your “nuanced” views don’t make you special. And, believe me, your nuances won’t make the anti-abortion shriekers like you any more than they like women for whom an abortion IS the same as a tonsillectomy.

      As for the 9-year-old rape victim vs. the married woman, I have to say, that view to me seems like less nuance and more like nonsense. If the issue here is fetal personhood, how do the conditions of the conception have any bearing? If the fetus is not a person when it’s the product of a rape, it’s not any more a person when it’s the product of a marital “accident.” If it is a person when it’s the product of such an accident, it’s just as much a person when it’s the product of a rape. Logical consistency is not the same thing as lack of nuance.

      I’m sorry to be so harsh. But like the cited article above says, I guess I’m tired of “make-nice” talk myself. It didn’t work. It’s time to pick sides and do it proudly.

  • Carolyn the Red

    I would challenge the idea that abortion rights supporters do not acknowledge a continuum of personhood among zygotes, embryos, foetuses. No less a figure in Canada than Henry Morgentaler (who performed at the time illegal abortions for 20+ years and challenged Canada’s abortion laws, until they were overturned in 1988) is on the record as being uncomfortable with late abortions without a compelling medical reason. He’s far from the only one on the abortion rights side of the debate who has said something acknowledging some kind of “foetal rights” that grow as time passes.

    • Dianne

      I’m uncomfortable with later (20+ week) abortions without medical reason, but not because of the fetus. There is good evidence that there is no meaningful consciousness in a fetus, with the only even possibly questionable period being about 32+ weeks and even there there is reason to believe that a fetus, as opposed to a same gestational age baby, is unlikely to have consciousness or experiences. A baby is just not a fetus, even if they are the same gestational age.

      However, I’m uncomfortable because if a woman waits until the 24th week of pregnancy to seek a “routine” abortion then something is probably very wrong. Maybe she is extremely ambivalent and may not really want the abortion, in which case intensive counseling to determine her desire is necessary before performing or deciding not to perform the procedure. Maybe she has been prevented from getting an abortion earlier by her parents or the baby’s father or even unrelated people. In that case, social work support and possibly police intervention may be needed to prevent further abuse. Maybe she couldn’t find the money earlier, in which case there is a problem with the social safety net that should be addressed on a societal level. Even if there is a clear medical indication, one might reasonably ask questions like could this problem have been found earlier?

      So, yeah, I’d like to prevent later abortions. A first trimester abortion is far safer and less physically difficult than a later abortion. The most important factor in preventing late abortion? Easy access to early abortion and early pre-natal diagnosis.

  • africaturtle

    Libby Anne,
    I’ve been reading your stuff for a while now. I really like the way you think and all of the “hot topics” you keep at the forefront of your blogging. I was raised evangelical and exposed to QF through various publications in highschool (which my mom especially embraced). After my own failed experiences in marriage and QF living (parts of my story on NLQ) I have had to re-question everything. The biggest thing for me in what i would label as this “deconversion” process (though i am overly-hesitant to adopt the label “atheist”) was coming to the realization that my understanding of the doctrine of biblical “inerrancy” was not at all based on reality. This (like your understanding of creation/evolution) has turned my world upside down. I now have changed so many of my views concerning feminism, sexuality, morality, etc… but the one that continues to be a HUGE hang-up for me is this abortion issue. I keep reading what you post here from time to time in hopes that something will “click” and i will understand something differently than how i understood it as an evangelical to feel more “free” in this area as well (less judgemental or less personal pressure even) and yet i still have a hard time wrapping my mind around how you got from where you “were” to where you “are” currently concerning this subject.

    Your recent post talking about the baby being a “parasite” was one i had a hard time “digesting” . I totally understood what you meant by defining it “technically” speaking. I also understand and even applaud the effort to be “real” about all the unpleasant aspects of pregnancy and how not all women feel “glowing” and “fulfilled” for the nine months of gestation. What i can’t get though is, if this is how you really feel, how you bond with your baby before it is actually born?

    It seems like there is some sort of disconnect in saying that you only acknowledge the individual life once the baby is born. How can you feel/think that way when you feel it moving inside of you before that day? I also even perceived certain aspects of my children’s personality before birth, for each of them (of course not thier entire personality but ceratin aspects that still held true after birth). Do you choose to stay detached at a certain level so as not to acknowledge it’s “personhood”? I am honestly trying to understand here, i am not being sarcastic or anything.

    I remember my ultrasounds even in the first trimester…it seemed surreal to me, it looked very much like a little person. Then I went through the experience of birthing a micro preemie (27 wks gestation) who grew without complications (but still in the care of a NICU ) into a healthy happy 2 yr old (her current age). The littlest babies they are able to save currently start at 24wks. So i really just have a hard time saying that aborting your baby is really any different than infanticide, to put it bluntly. I don’t understand the “technicality” that makes it okay based on an arbitrary calendar date. I can *almost* start to try and understand that in the very early stages yes, it is moreso tissue that is reproducing at a rapid rate that will soon grow into a real baby. SO i can’t say i really think of birth control (which to QF teaching is abortifacient) as being problematic. But to get from accepting a fertilized egg that is expulsed from the body because the lining of the uterus does not accept it’s implantation to accepting procedure to “extract” a baby that is fully formed just extra small and would even potentially be able to live with medical care… and saying that a baby at that age is still not acknowledged as a person or that the mother’s preference ALWAYS “wins” … i really just don’t get that. god or no god…being a mother, i understand the desperation of feeling like another baby is absolutely something you “cannot handle” i mean to the point you fear loosing your sanity even… but when the child is 2 months old there are moms who feel that way too, and we don’t give them permission to kill their baby… we give it to someone else to care for if it is that bad.

    I’m afraid of being really lambasted for sharing my true thoughts/feelings on the subject here. But really i trust that you kind of understand where i’m comming from too, given your upbringing. Maybe it is something that i will never change my mind on, but at the same time…since i follow/understand fully many of your other shifts in thought/conviction i really would like to understand more/better on this one as well.

    • Rosa

      Would it make sense to you that not everyone bonds before birth? I experienced pregnancy as a serious illness, with a fairly high (by American standards) chance of pregnancy loss or stillbirth and a moderate risk to my own life. I had a lot of very early ultrasounds at the stage where the fetus looked like a tiny bubble or a tiny blob (the first at 4 weeks, to make sure it wasn’t an ectopic pregnancy; the next at 6 weeks to make sure I was pregnant despite a lot of bleeding; another a few weeks later after another bout of bleeding that they were worried was placental disattachment). I did get pretty bonded in the last month I was pregnant, partly because I was then having weekly ultrasounds to check for fetal movement and make sure my son hadn’t died in utero, so I got to see a lot of pictures at that stage, and partly because I’d been put on total bed rest and learned to manage the constant nausea, so it no longer felt so much like a months-long bout of stomach flu. But definitely not before. And of course at that point what I had when the pregnancy threatened my life was not an abortion, it was an induction – in my case at 34 weeks, though it was a possibility as early as 28 weeks.

      If my feelings of attachment were the measure of personhood, all abortions would be totally legal until about 30 weeks, which is of course far past the norm (3/4 of abortions are in the first 10 weeks) or the legal limit for anything other than very restricted health-or-life-saving abortions.

      I’m not arguing against your feelings – they are more common than mine, and come from a more positive experience that I wish I could have had. But I wouldn’t put as much moral significance on them as you do.

    • Petticoat Philosopher

      Well, here are my thoughts, although I am not a mother.

      I think part of the problem is the conflation of “life” with “personhood.” It’s not about only acknowledging the life once the baby is born. Nobody denies that a fetus is alive. The question is whether that living being has the rights of personhood. Feeling your fetus move is indeed proof that it is alive, but is an indication that it is a person? Lots of living things move, and we don’t afford all of THEM the rights of personhood. Anti-abortioners often say that “all life is sacred” to them but, unless they are really strict Jains (and, well, most of them aren’t as we know all too well…), that isn’t true. Most of these people will think nothing of taking an animal’s life, pretty much all will think nothing of taking a plant’s life. These things are alive too and some of them are considerably more sentient than an early-term fetus. The only thing that makes a fetus special is that it’s got human DNA and I think that the idea that the argument that DNA alone ought to confer certain rights upon a being is one that is pretty hard to defend philosophically. For pro-choicers, the issue is sentience, not the fact of the fetus being alive (which can be said of many things) or genetically human (which can be said of human cell cultures…)

      I don’t doubt that feeling a fetus move is a powerful emotional experience for a pregnant woman who desires her pregnancy but it’s just that–a powerful emotional experience. An expectant mother has every right to it but it doesn’t have any bearing on the moral status of the fetus. To me, it’s (warranted) excitement over potential.

      Finally, nobody is asking you to “get from accepting a fertilized egg that is expulsed from the body because the lining of the uterus does not accept it’s implantation to accepting procedure to “extract” a baby that is fully formed just extra small and would even potentially be able to live with medical care.” What happened to the 24 weeks in between those two times? Because that’s when most abortions happens. VERY few abortions are performed after 24 weeks and, if they are, it’s almost always because of some horrible circumstances, like a threat to the mothers life, an enormous defect in the fetus that won’t allow it to survive long after birth, or the rape of a child. Most abortions are performed in the first few weeks of pregnancy, way before the fetus is viable or anything like a fully formed baby–”tissue that is reproducing at a rapid rate,” as you say. The nightmare images of nearly full-term babies bleeding to death on tables that the anti-abortion zealots promote are misrepresentations and lies. They should be ashamed of themselves but they seem not to have any shame.

      • Azel

        I would add that even if we afford the foetus person-hood, we’re not out of the woods: does the foetus’ rights trump the mother’s ? Because, technically, the foetus is a parasite. It may have been invited here, but t’s nonetheless leeching on its mothers resources. Thus, coercing people to stay pregnant is basically coercing them to serve as unwilling life-support…something we never do, even to the culprits of the worst crimes.
        And to add to Petticoat Philosopher’s point, DNA is a lousy criterion. Because something we have no moral difficulty to destroy and which have human DNA are cancerous tumors…Hell, they have different DNA from their unwitting host.

    • http://patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism Libby Anne

      I actually wrote about the bonding issue here. I personally didn’t bond with my children until after birth. In fact, the first month was my “bonding” period. Sure, I felt them move before that, but that didn’t mean I bonded with them as individuals. I … didn’t. And this surprised me. I think it’s different for every woman. I also think, though, that whether or when the mother bonds with the fetus or baby should not be taken into account when looking at whether abortion should be legal or not. I also see birth as a firm dividing line, which is why I would never see infanticide as acceptible. The reason is that before birth the fetus is a part of the woman’s body, and after birth the baby is separate and independent of the women (i.e. it’s care can be transferred to someone else if need be).

      As for how I got from there to here, it was in three steps, and I keep meaning to write about it, because this was one of the stickiest issues for me. (1) Realizing that banning abortion does NOT end abortion, or in some cases even decrease it, whereas birth control DOES decrease abortion; (2) concluding based on my qualifications for “person” (i.e. some level of higher brain function) that a first trimester and early second trimester fetus was most certainly NOT a person; and (3) coming to understand the “it’s my body” argument, and that no one should be able to force anyone to stay pregnant if they don’t want to. Obviously this is simplified. I DO mean to write more about it and I DON’T think you’re crazy. :-)

    • Anat

      I had an easy, planned pregnancy. In fact it took me over a year to conceive in the first place. Yet I did not bond with my daughter until I saw her and held her. I knew that I was going to have a baby and made preparations – read childcare books, worked with my husband about planning our parenting style, thought about names, bought some things. But my future child was no more than a dream. I don’t get how one bonds with an entity so unknown as a fetus.

    • Anat

      but when the child is 2 months old there are moms who feel that way too, and we don’t give them permission to kill their baby… we give it to someone else to care for if it is that bad.

      Yes, once there is a baby that can in principle be cared for by anyone that is the thing to do. But a fetus can’t be given to anyone else. It depends on one person, and it affects the physical and mental health of that one person. So the person gets to choose whether or not to let the situation continue.

  • Emilia

    Actually, I don’t care about the anti-abortion shriekers or what they might think of me (probably not very highly; I’ve done everything in their bad books from having premarital sex to using birth control to saying I couldn’t definitely rule out the possibility of abortion for myself). However, as much as I identify as ‘pro-choice,’ there are people in the pro-choice movement who are intolerant of women who wouldn’t choose abortion for themselves or who raise questions about the ethics surrounding the procedure. Look at this http://www.fwhc.org/stories/amy.htm for a personal account on a pro-choice website or this opinion piece by a pro-choice author: http://www.cathyyoung.net/bgcolumns/2003/extremes.html (see fourth paragraph in particular). And no, I don’t think I’m special; in fact, I probably represent a good chunk of the public opinion on abortion.

    • Carol

      Yes, women feel very strongly about empowering other women to make their own choices and not hand over their decisions about their bodies to men or the state without some hypocritical finger wagger telling them what to do. If that appalls you, that women don’t feel they need to take a more “nuanced” stand than that, that’s your decision.

    • Dianne

      there are people in the pro-choice movement who are intolerant of women who wouldn’t choose abortion for themselves

      The only time I’ve ever heard someone say anything even mildly disparaging about a woman’s choice not to have an abortion is when the woman in question has a high chance of dying if she continues the pregnancy. Continuing a pregnancy that is likely to kill you is, IMHO, a bad decision. So are smoking, not taking blood pressure medications when your BP is 200/110, and refusing an appendectomy for acute appendicitis. If any of these decisions are made by a sane person who understands the consequences then personal autonomy “wins” and no one has the right to force them to do it. But it’s entirely acceptable to tell them that they’re acting like fools.

      or who raise questions about the ethics surrounding the procedure.

      Of course one can ask questions about anything. But are you listening to the answers and having a dialogue or just pulling the old “I’m just asking questions” routine?

    • Carol
  • Scotlyn

    I consider myself fortunate to only have been pregnant twice, both times at my choosing. I have two fine children whose existence I have never once felt ambivalent about, and whom I love to distraction. I had a small bleed in the tenth week of my first pregnancy and was scheduled for an early scan. The sight of a tiny black and white blob, no bigger than a quarter, with a smaller blobby heartbeat in the middle of it moved me to tears and delight. This is my personal experience, mainly reflecting, I think, my extreme good fortune in having been able to live my own fertile years almost precisedly between the years of Roe v Wade (the year of my menarche) and the legal eclipsing choice (with my menopause expected round about now). I was able to choose my pregnancies BECAUSE I was able to choose many years of non-procreative contraceptive-using sex first. I was able to choose because, if a condom broke at a time when I had no intention of becoming pregnant, there was easy access to the 48-hour pill, and the fact it might prevent a fertilised egg from implanting in my uterus never cost me a thought. I was able to choose because I had access to excellent reproductive educational resources, and had somewhere acquired the idea that I was a full person and that my own choices matter. (As I may have said before, my 60′s and 70′s evangelical home was fundamentalist, but NOT patriarchal, NOT obsessed with evolution or with abortion – I remember finding such notions strange when I witnessed them begin to influence my friends and relations in the 80′s).

    And so, here I am today, watching as the world turns against the idea that a woman is a full person whose choices matter. I am watching how, through clever use of “kittenlolz” backlit pictures of fetuses, “precious baby” heartstring-pulling language, dread Holocaust warnings ringing loud, people are gradually being re-acclimatised to the pernicious idea that, yes, there ARE times when a woman’s entitlement to bodily autonomy MAY be/ SHOULD be breached; yes, there are times when her body may be put to the use of another without her consent and against her will.

    This is to grant a fetus a right that we do not currently grant to any other category of human person – the right to the use of another person’s body without their consent. A fetus in the earliest stages of pregnancy may have a heartbeat to gladden the heart of its own mother in anticipation. But it does not have an awareness of BEING, therefore it can have no awareness of ceasing to be.

    In contrast, a girl or woman, a full human person with her own thoughts and feelings, forced to give birth against her will, has been taught a sorry, dehumanising lesson. Her thoughts and feelings count for nothing. She is a function, a uterus, no more.

    From here, the road to the re-subjugation of women, to the general acceptance of our second-class status, our lack of entitlement to full bodily autonomy, indeed, to our demotion from full human people to chattels, does not look overly long.

    • ArachneS

      “This is to grant a fetus a right that we do not currently grant to any other category of human person – the right to the use of another person’s body without their consent. A fetus in the earliest stages of pregnancy may have a heartbeat to gladden the heart of its own mother in anticipation. But it does not have an awareness of BEING, therefore it can have no awareness of ceasing to be.”

      Thank you for this. This is the heart of the what makes me pro-choice after having been raised in a pro-life house. I think this needs to be said more, but it gets lost in all the rhetoric that the conservative right leads the conversation with.

  • Minnie

    I am not allowed to hook up to my fathers body, use his body and cause him extreme genital pain against his will to save myself, even though I have physical and emotional feelings something embryos and fetuses do not have. My father can let me suffer to death.

    I get my pro-choice stance from my own experience as a sexually abused child.

    1) My mother did not want me, she did not love me, she did not value me. She knew her family was sexually abusing me and she did not care.
    I wish my mother had aborted me, my mother told me she wishes her mother had aborted her, my mother was trapped in an abusive marriage to my wife beating christian father, I was trapped in a child raping christian family, me and my mother both would have preferred not being born, but then we would have deprived christian men of using us as child sex toys, maids, and breeding mares. My little sister who is a christian said, she wishes we had a panic button in the womb and a way to know we are doomed were we could abort our selves. We have cousins who committed suicide because they were raped as children, their mothers did not love them and their mothers did not protect them. Pro-lifers do not give a tiny shit that we were all raped as kids, from everything I get from the pro-lifers I am condemnded for not getting pregnant from my rapes.

    2) I was desperate for the right to say, “No” in regard to my own body and vagina. But someone else said, yes! Your body and your vagina is going to be subject to my commands against your will, and you will have something horrific happen to your vagina for my pleasure and amusement and I do not give a tiny damn how much it hurts you, physically, and emotionally. And I hope it does demean you, I hope it does put you in your place, vaginas are to be used and abused. This is what you are for, sex, babies, and serving men, nothing more and nothing less. Pro-lifers and christians make me just as sick, make me feel every bit as demeaned as the child rapist I grew up with.

    I would rather not be born if being born means I lose custody of my body if I become pregnant, and the pro-rape state can force me to be pregnant and give birth against my will like breeding stock. It makes me sick that pro-lifers believe all baby girls vaginas are born in debt, and her vagina and body has to produce and give birth because it pleasures them. That is what these people believe, that our daughters vaginas are born in debt, and they are condemned if they do not breed.

    Pro-lifers have the same misogynistic mentality as the misogynistic who repeatedly sexually abused me as a little girl. They do not think women and little girls have a right to escape extreme unwanted vaginal pain, or be able to say no in regards to their own bodies and vaginas. The man who sexually abused me told me I was just a c**t, and I get the same message from pro-lifers and christians.

    Pro-lifers use pregnancy, childbirth, and motherhood to subjugate women and little girls. What happens to these unwanted, unloved, unvaluded babies once they are born? They get raped up one side and down the other, just like me and my cousins did. But child-rape is irrelevant to pro-lifers as we see the two biggest pro-lifer organizations in the world are saturated in child rape, the southern baptist wife beating convention, and the child raping catholic church.

    My vagina and body does not belong to anyone but me, and if there is to become a time in my life when it does belong to someone besides me, I would rather not be born, I have already lived that (someone else can dictate my body and vagina and cause me vaginal pain against my will LIFE, child raping pro-lifers call it life, I call it hell).

  • Minnie

    What Pro-lifers think of women and little girls.

    ~~ The GOP has refused to renew the Violence Against Women Act.

    ~~ Every GOP Senator voted AGAINST The Equal Pay for Women Act.

    ~~ Every GOP Senator voted AGAINST Al Franken’s Anti-Rape Amendment.

    ~~ Every GOP member voted FOR Anti-Safe Abortion Legislation.

    ~~ Every GOP member voted FOR the Blunt/Rubio Anti-Women’s Equal Health Coverage Amendment. While the Blunt/Rubio Amendment does not allow employers to deny male employees health coverage for a Vasectomy, the Blunt/Rubio Amendment allows an employer to deny female employees & female dependents: contraception, tubal ligations, and hysterectomies.

    ~~ GOP wants to Redefine Rape to “forceable” rape.

    ~~ GOP wrote legislation to probe metal prongs up a woman’s vagina.

    ~~ GOP changed the legal term for victims of rape, stalking, and domestic violence to “accuser”.

    ~~ GOP wrote legislation that could make it legal to murder a doctor who provides abortion care. (South Dakota GOP)

    ~~ GOP wrote legislation to cut nearly a billion dollars of aid to low-income pregnant women, mothers, babies, and kids.

    ~~ GOP wrote legislation that would let hospitals allow a woman to die rather than perform an abortion necessary to save her life.

    ~~ GOP wrote a law cutting ALL funding for low-income kids saying “Women should really be home with the kids, not out working (Maryland).

    ~~ GOP Cut Funding for Head Start, by $1 Billion.

    ~~ GOP wrote a Bill to CUT funding for employment services, meals, and housing for senior citizens. (Two-thirds of the elderly poor are women)

    ~~ GOP Candidates for President vow and pledge to Cut Funding for Planned Parenthood.

    ~~ GOP voted for an Amendment to cut all federal funding from Planned Parenthood health centers.

    ~~ GOP wrote a Bill to eliminate all funds for Federal Family Planning Program.

    ~~ GOP wrote a Bill to Provide Contraception for wild horses but ENDS all Federal Funding for Family Planning, including contraception coverage. (Dan Burton (R-Indiana).

    ~~ GOP has also written “Personhood” laws that force women and girls to bear their rapist’s progeny.

    ~~ GOP has passed laws that allow doctors to lie to a woman about the health of the fetus if the doctor thinks she might have an abortion.

    ~~ GOP Jan Brewer (R- AZ) recently signed one of the most controversial and restrictive abortion bans in the country, which experts say effectively bans abortions after 18 weeks and declares that a woman could be pregnant 2 weeks before she even had sex.

    I did not make this list, I got it from a woman named Sandy.

    • Carol

      All in the name of “protecting” women, right?

      Minnie, you are one tough gal.

  • Scotlyn

    Minnie, your story is tragic and what was done to you criminal. I truly hope there is a safe place for you. A place full of the respect and autonomy that is your birthright and that was wrongfully denied you – one which you yourself would CHOOSE to be born to.

    I would rather not be born if being born means I lose custody of my body if I become pregnant, and the pro-rape state can force me to be pregnant and give birth against my will like breeding stock.

    This.
    We have been distracted by all the pretty pictures of “precious” fetuses from noticing that THIS is what is being proposed. That we all “lose custody” of our bodies in pregnancy – and that once that “gateway” principle is established and accepted – all custody of our emale bodies may soon be forfeit.

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  • Elisia

    Would you consider doing a series about your reader’s personal experiences with unexpected pregnancies and choice? I really liked the quiverfull series you did and would be interested in hearing women’s stories and getting the personal message about abortion out there.


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