Pope Jim Garlow I joins the Münchhausen martyrdom brigade

Jim Garlow is a silly, silly man.

We’ve written here before about the Münchhausen martyrs — privileged people who prefer the self-congratulatory fantasy of persecution. And, as Kyle Mantyla reports, Garlow is an extravagantly ridiculous example of this.

Speaking at the Family Research Council’s “Watchmen on the Wall” conference (the name of which is, itself, a gloriously pompous example of Münchhausen-martyrdom fatuousness), Garlow denounced same-sex marriage. In doing so, he also unwittingly denounced a host of biblical heroes, saying that “Nature has dictated what the Bible clearly affirms, and that is, one man, one woman” as the only acceptable form of marriage.

Then — after condemning Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, Gideon, Moses and many others as the enemies of biblical marriage — Garlow turned his sights on President Obama for speaking in support of marriage equality:

Maybe a basic 101 of Christianity, it would be wise for [the president] to know, that throughout historic, orthodox, authentic, biblical Christianity — and there’s no other kind of Christianity other than biblical Christianity — marriage has always been defined as one man, one woman.

Pope Garlow I wants you to know that he, and he alone, is the arbiter of who is and who is not a real, true Christian. President Obama, by citing the Golden Rule and the words of Jesus, has set himself beyond the bounds of Christianity acceptable unto Pope Garlow I. Obama, therefore, is not a “historic, orthodox, authentic, biblical Christian.” And that, Pope Garlow I says, means he is no Christian at all, because “there’s no other kind of Christianity” than that taught and affirmed by this wannabe pope and his gaggle of supporters.

OK, you’re thinking, so far we’ve seen that Jim Garlow is a self-righteous, judgmental jackwagon, but when do we get to the ridiculous martyrdom business?

That’s next. Garlow and his cohorts, he said, are:

Like the Colonial pastor who called his congregation to go stand at the bridge. According to the story, he took off his vestments, he marched out with his musket. The men of the church followed him. He stood at a bridge watching the British troops advance towards him. And he turned to his men and he said, “Here we die.”

And that is where we are here. This is one we go to the mat for. If necessary, here we die.

Does Garlow really believe a word of this? Is he so caught up in the paranoid delusion of his own martyrdom fantasy that he actually imagines that some vague government entity is trying to kill him? (Or, perhaps, to pin him in a wrestling match?)

Because no one is. Garlow and his ilk are not in any danger. His physical safety is not in jeopardy. And his constitutional rights — the same rights he proudly seeks to deny others — are not in jeopardy.

People like Garlow like to pretend they’re being courageous by spouting this kind of thing, but, again, if this is what constitutes courage, then Fred Phelps is the bravest man in the world.

As mean-spirited as Garlow is in his politics and his theology, Fred Phelps is far worse. Garlow wants to deny LGBT people the right to marry, the right to serve in the military and the right to employment protection, but Phelps wants them all to burn in Hell. Garlow thinks he knows the secret to who is an “authentic, biblical Christian” and who is an “apostate,” but Phelps draws that circle even tighter, excluding everyone who isn’t a member of his congregation– meaning everyone who isn’t a member of his family.

But give Phelps credit for at least this much: He doesn’t pretend that his cruel beliefs make him some kind of martyr. Fred Phelps doesn’t pretend that Obama’s redcoats are marching across some bridge to kill him. He doesn’t pretend that he’s somehow being persecuted because he knows he is not. And Phelps doesn’t pretend that his “religious liberty” to say the most hatefully bigoted things he can imagine is somehow being threatened, because he knows it is not.

So if Garlow really believes his own hype, let me reassure him:

Mr. Garlow, look at Fred Phelps. He is, like you, a free man enjoying his freedom in the Land of the Free. His religious liberty is unfettered — just like yours.

So relax. You’re not on a bridge with a musket facing down a powerful army. No one is coming to take away your rights or your freedoms or your safety. You’re not persecuted, you’re privileged. Try to enjoy it.

And maybe try not to be such a jerk to other people who don’t get to enjoy all the same rights, freedoms and safety you do, OK?

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  • http://twitter.com/jclor jclor

    The twisted logic here is actually quite simple:

    1. Same-sex marriage becomes legal.
    2. Jim Garlow is forced to gay marry a dude.
    3. He dies of shame.
    4. Martyrdom unlocked!

    His stance is obviously a display of real courage in the face of mortal peril.

  • http://apocalypsereview.wordpress.com/ Invisible Neutrino

    So… opponents of same-sex marriage believe that same-sex marriage will thus make opposite-sex marriage impossible?

    (O.o)

  • http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke

    Just unattractive. In their minds, if a dude could marry a dude, why would anyone ever want to be with a filthy, filthy woman? 

  • The_L1985

     I’m beginning to wonder if they do.  I’ve also heard the argument that legalizing same-sex marriage will somehow render man-woman marriage meaningless…I’m not sure how THAT’S supposed to work either.

  • Tricksterson

    As far as I can figure it out they see marriage as a special toy only they are allowed to play with and if others, especially the “wrong tyope” are allowed to play with it then they’ll break it.

    That’s as close to a coherent translation of their attitude as I’ve been able to come.

  • Jenny Islander

    There’s also the attitude pointed out by The_L, that all sorts of things are compulsory that are not in fact compulsory.  If “this is a good thing” means “everyone at all times must do this thing” to a Christian, then obviously when legislators call something good by proclaiming it legal, that really means that everybody everywhere will be forced to do it.  Therefore, Stan Queire being allowed to marry Dan Bye means that Fred Hetreaux must live in hourly fear of Ned Homeau ambushing him with a ring and dragging him to the county courthouse.  Or into a church that doesn’t want Ned there ever, where the preacher will have to marry them at gunpoint.  Or something.  The idea that people are allowed to make their own choices is just not in their worldview.  There is one Procrustean bed in which all must lie and any protest against Procrustes is really an attempt to become the next Procrustes.

  • The_L1985

    Exactly. Some people really think life is like that old joke about Soviet Russia.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

     Well, obviously no Real True American will want marriage once it’s got icky GAY COOTIES all over it.

  • hidden_urchin

    From my perspective, wanting to deny legal rights and protections to people is far more evil than wanting them to burn in Hell.  The existence of an afterlife is uncertain, and also what it may be, but we know people exist in the here and now who are being hurt.  This is their one shot at life and to deprive them of the things that can make that life better–well, I just can’t think of many things worse to do to people than that.

  • Ursula L

    From my perspective, wanting to deny legal rights and protections to people is far more evil than wanting them to burn in Hell.  

    It isn’t an either/or issue, however.

    I don’t know anyone who wants QUILTBAG folks to burn in hell who doesn’t also want to deny them civil rights and a safe place in society. 

    And wanting both to deny someone legal rights and protections and wanting them to suffer eternal torment is worse than merely wishing to deny someone legal rights and protection.  We can even clearly define how much worse it is.   It is  worse by exactly one wish of eternal torment.  

    And it is worse, not merely for the sentiment of wishing someone eternal harm, but for the real social and emotional distress that is experienced by QUILTBAG people raise in their company who are taught to hate an fear their own nature.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

     

    I don’t know anyone who wants QUILTBAG folks to burn in hell who doesn’t also want to deny them civil rights and a safe place in society.

    I sort of do.  
    Know such people, I mean.  

    Or, well, not want us to burn in hell exactly, but believe we’re going to if we don’t change our ways… and, further, that it’s right that we should do so, because it is the Will of God, which is necessarily right.

    But who also believe that the best way to get us to change our ways is to treat us with fairness, decency, and love, and that part of that is social and legal equality.

    This makes my head spin, but they do exist, and I far prefer them to the folks who don’t have an opinion about God’s Will but think we should not be treated equally by one another or before the law.

  • http://dpolicar.livejournal.com/ Dave

    Word.

  • Jessica_R

    And again, if any of these clowns were threatened with their AC being turned off for good they’d cave, let alone their lives. All of them together don’t have the courage in Harvey Milk’s little finger. 

  • Loki100

    Exactly. The only reason they care about this is because there is literally no downside for them.

    It’s been three years since the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act was passed, and not a single pastor was arrested for speaking against gay people, despite the fact that we were told over and over and over that there would be mass incarcerations following its passage. They are lying parasites.

  • ako

    Well, if they’re honest and say “We’re being oppressed by not being allowed to make other people do what we want them to!”, it just makes them sound stupid.

  • Victor Savard

    (((Jim Garlow is a silly, silly man.)))
    With all due respect Fred, I think that you also are over doing “IT” and in their view, they probably also consider you a silly, silly man.
    I don’t read the bible but “I” in all fairness, must say that I’ve listened to the gospel very often and so “I” due respect this good book. I’ve asked God what’s going on and probably cause sinner vic thinks that he’s my god and says he owns about 93% of my cells that this gives him the right to dictate as the way human life should be and he says that there’s nothing wrong with dogs in church. Believe me when “I” say that sinner vic is pretty sneeky cause he quietly told my so called 7% “Jesus Cells” that they don’t stand a chance against his 93% owed flesh cells and to prove “IT” he chalenged me to try and put a stop to blind dogs in church.
     Call me crazy if you like but me, myself and i told sinner vic, that he doesn’t own any of my cells whether they be real and/or spiritual of any part of my body and just because “I” successfully took my life as far as every “ONE” of my so called brain cells were concern  sometime around 1991 does not give him and/or any other force that be to accept that  “I’AM” worth “NOTHING” and “I” only say this if this skitso even has a slim chance of being for real!  Anyway, “IT” is true that as far as “Jesus” who walked the earth over 2012 years ago or so would agree with silly silly sinner vic that as far as He was concerned, “I” did die spiritually cause “IT” was pre-planned and “I” honestly also believed at the time that “I” would go through with “IT” after “ONE GOD WEEK” but long story short, I asked for fogiveness and after receiving HIS BODY AND BLOOD in church, “I” was reborn on the third day and that is also available for every “ONE” of  GOD’s Children.
    I hear ya! What about the sinner vic’s chalenge?

     Long story short, I told him that “I” was Game” and although “I” had spoken to this dog on at least 3 occasions in the past and many people knew how “I” felt, nevertheless on http://www.turnbacktogod.com/pentecost-holy-spirit-descent-on-disciples/ , I was literally thrown out of church by three men and “I” did not take a swing but long story short, our grandson was able to finish receiving The Holy Spirit and our good bishop also gave Saint Anthony cells a few words and with “ONE” hand on his shoulder, he said in so many other words, take good care of your grandpa cause he’s my best friend and then he gave me his hand shake. You might say that sinner vic won the day but “I”, Me, Myself and i with my spirit and soul listening on the side line had a good talk with GOD, (Good Old Dad) and this is some of what HE said and of course, I’ll be paraphasing most of “IT” if ya get my drift? :)
    Victor! Victor! Victor! How many times must “The Holy Spirit” and His Angels tell you that they do not need your help. We really don’t care that you are walking the insanity line because MY SON saved you and that because of “IT” that makes you very sensitive to what some in the insanity spiritual so called world might be telling ya but long story short Victor! Victor! Victor! You are not “ONE” of my prophets and may never be so  please stop pretending that you are “ONE” and as far as sinner vic is concerned, let me take care of him for ya! OK?

    WHAT EVER YOU SAY LORD GOD but please don’t be too hard on sinner vic or should “I” say my 93% spiritual reality flesh cells?!

    Peace

  • http://politicsproseotherthings.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel

     What is it with cranks and bad grammer?

  • Abean

    Or bad spelling?

  • Tricksterson

    WTF?

  • Kiba

    WTF?

    Oh, good. It’s not just me then. 

  • Tricksterson

    I have known actual for real crackheads who made more sense than this.

  • PJ Evans

     Too much beer after the Wednesday night service?

  • http://stealingcommas.blogspot.com/ chris the cynic

    It is Victor, from the days of old.

  • Jessica

     Holy crap, it’s Victor! LOLOLOLOLOLOL

  • Loki100

    This post shows some really interesting cognitive dissociation.

    With all due respect Fred, I think that you also are over doing “IT” and in their view, they probably also consider you a silly, silly man.

    “IT” should not be capitalized, nor should it be in quotation. And Jim Garlow would not think Fred is a “silly, silly man” (that’s a quote, therefore it goes in quotation marks). If Garlow is 100% cynical than he loves people like Fred, because people like Fred are opposition, and opposition is all that allows Garlow’s martyr fantasy to keep up the cash flow. If Garlow actually buys his con, then he hates Fred because Fred might lead his flock astray (also endangering that cash flow). Either way, from Garlow’s perspective, there’s nothing silly about this.

    I’ve asked God what’s going on and probably cause sinner vic thinks that he’s my god and says he owns about 93% of my cells that this gives him the right to dictate as the way human life should be and he says that there’s nothing wrong with dogs in church. 

    The lack of punctuation here, along with incomplete thoughts, makes this section somewhat gobbledygook, but if I look closely I think I can interpret it. You’ve dissociated, and externalized the part of your personality that feels temptation towards things you believe are sinful, and that would be “sinner vic.” You ascribe this dissociated identity the power to control you (or it wants the power to control you). And for some reason, it wants to take a dog into a church. First off, there is no “sinner vic,” there’s just one whole person. Dissociation of this type is simply a coping mechanism to relieve you of your guilt over perceived flaws. Also, the only thing I can think of that is wrong in taking a dog to church is if people are allergic.

    Call me crazy if you like but me, myself and i told sinner vic

    Are we really at four dissociations? The next section is made up of entirely fragmented thinking. The closest I can get to unraveling it is that you consider your life roughly parallel to Jesus’s. There’s also something about being thrown out of a church.

    But seriously, this level of incoherent, fragmented, dissociated thinking indicates that you should probably seek therapy. I honestly can’t discern a point in any of this, nor can I discern a logical progression in the  thoughts contained within.

  • http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke

    “IT” can be capitalized AND put in quotation marks when referring to:

    http://theeverythingfilmshow.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/27087272.jpg 

  • Loki100

    Everything floats down here…

  • AnonymousSam

    Or when you’re being horribly, horribly punny. In a horrible way.

    http://oi49.tinypic.com/1zmfmer.jpg

  • The_L1985

     Or, IT refers to Information Technology, i.e. computer and internet techies. :P

    Which just makes Victor’s whole rant even weirder.

  • http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke

    Yeah, I work in IT too. I can’t even find a profession in my field…I really don’t FEEL like god right now!

  • ConservativeWhitebread

    I don’t think you ever answer questions.  I would genuinely like to know if English is your primary language.

  • The_L1985

     Um…what?

    I think you may want to go back and proofread that, because I can’t parse what you said, nor figure out what, if anything, it has to do with gay marriage.

    I also fail to see how Information Technology (I.T.) is in any way a spiritual thing.

  • Tricksterson

    Heretic!  Worship you not the Computer God and His aspects HAL  and Collossus?  Heed you not the Prophets Turing and Gates! 

    Burn him I say!  BURRRN HIIIM!!

  • TheFaithfulStone

     

    Call me crazy if you like but me,

    I’m saying this in all seriousness – please seek professional help.

  • Holden Pattern

    Just so we’re clear about who they’re courting with that “Watchmen on the Wall” name:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_on_the_Walls

  • http://profiles.google.com/marc.k.mielke Marc Mielke

    My mental image was of the costumed heroes from Alan Moore’s graphic novel joining the Night’s Watch. 

  • Shallot

     Like Chris the Cynic said, Victor’s been commenting on Fred’s posts for years, though not as much since the jump to Patheos.  I don’t always understand what he’s trying to say, but I’ve never seen him be mean or cruel to other commenters, so he’s okay in my book.

    I hope you did not hurt the dog, Victor, or anybody else.  We’re all just trying to do our best in this world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=581585394 Nicholas Kapur

    Like Chris the Cynic said, Victor’s been commenting on Fred’s posts for years, though not as much since the jump to Patheos.  I don’t always understand what he’s trying to say, but I’ve never seen him be mean or cruel to other commenters, so he’s okay in my book.

    This. I think a lot of people who haven’t been following Fred for very long (relatively speaking) are mostly just reacting to the opening line:

    With all due respect Fred, I think that you also are over doing “IT” and in their view, they probably also consider you a silly, silly man.

    So, just to be clear: Victor’s all right. As far as I’ve seen, he’s not here to judge you, rail against marriage equality, or convince you of some bigoted, self-righteous theology, and he’s been around a lot longer than most of the people here.

    So lay off.

    If you don’t like it, don’t read it, because it’s not like he’s talking shit about you. Besides, I’ve always found it to be rather poetic.

  • JustoneK

    I’d seen him described as a troll (some recent thread somewhar when he popped by again).
    I honestly don’t know him from adam but I really wanna understand what he posts.

  • http://jesustheram.blogspot.com/ Mr. Heartland

    “Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my
    death. I shall view my wife in the same way as my lands.  I shall indoctrinate my children. I shall
    wear myself in glory, crowned by God to rule over the Heathens.  . I shall live and die at my post. I am
    the sword in defense of my own priveledge. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the
    shield that guards the realms of men from the dirty queers. I pledge my life and delusions of grandeur to the
    Night’s Watch, for this night and all the nights to come.

  • VMink

    You owe me at least one night’s good sleep after that rather terrifying imagery. =P

  • Victor

    (((Loki100 3 comments collapsed Collapse Expand This post shows some really interesting cognitive dissociation.)))

    You’ve made “IT” quiet clear that my grammar is far from being perfect and because you can’t fully understand what I was trying to say, then your judgement of me must be completely correct  but “I” hope that  God in His Wisdom, will not simply judge me by my grammar but what is in my heart.

    My question to you is! Do you think that someday I have a chance to be as perfect as you are in God’s Eyes?

    Peace

  • The_L1985

     Tip: Don’t use quotation marks for emphasis.  Instead, try typing &ltb&gt before the word you want to emphasize, and &lt/b&gt after it.

    The result looks like: “your judgement of me must be completely correct  but I hope that  God
    in His Wisdom, will not simply judge me by my grammar but what is in my
    heart”

    Also, none of us thinks we are perfect.  The Christians among us will undoubtedly cite Romans 3:28 or similar.  Those of us who are atheists or members of a non-Christian religion (like myself) are less likely to quote the Bible, but equally aware of our own fallibility.

    Also, we point out your grammar for the sole reason that grammar makes it easier to get across what you have to say.  If we can’t understand what you’re saying, it is far more difficult to meaningfully respond.  That’s why basic grammar rules were invented in the first place.

  • Victor

    I will be out of our city as of tomorrow but I should be back around Monday and/or Tuesday to aswer you questions and by the way, thank you Shallot for your warm comments and no I never hurt the dog. As far as I’m concerned, he and/or she dog seem
    to say Victor, this lady is not really blind and I’m just doing what I’m told to do! :)

    God Bless

  • Phil

    Victor,

    If this lady says that she is blind you should believe her. If she has a seeing eye dog then you should allow it into the church.

    Do you think that your Jesus cells want this lady to not go to church?

  • reynard61

    Pope Garlow want to remember those words when his congregation shrinks to nothing along with his church’s coffers. Death doesn’t always come out of the barrel of a muzzle-loader.

  • Anonymous

    Apropos of nothing, Fred has been extremely prolific this past week, even for him.  Just caught the burst of inspiration, huh?  I’m like that, sometimes.

  • WingedBeast

    First, a general response to the article.

    I keep on trying to come up with a thinking behind this belief that “our freedoms are at risk”.  Maybe they mean their freedom to live their lives without being confronted with the existence of gay people… but, I’ve since realized that there is no thinking behind the sentiment.  There is only the sentiment, itself, the words to put to a fear that they feel they must have, as the essence of who they believe themselves to be, under attack.  Other things only come after, such as who is attacking or why.  The important thing, first and foremost, for that is what they must be if they are to be real true Christians, is under attack.

    Victor, in so far as I could understand your post… it seemed a complete and utter non-sequitor to the article.  Remember, just because you’re repeating some prose you’ve conducted, doesn’t mean the context makes it appropriate for whatever point you may have.

    You have to read, comprehend, then conduct new prose to respond and make a point relevant to what has been said.  This is how conversation works.  If you cannot have a conversation, you will never achieve anything with your sermons… ever.

  • Jenny Islander

    Victor has popped up every now and then for some time, both here and on Fred’s old blog,  with the same style, including non sequiturs and lots of references to “IT.”  He is either a troll or he has trouble understanding what he reads and/or getting his thoughts to come out through his fingers coherently. 

  • arcseconds

    Please let some vague government entity come out and wrestle him to the mat.  Please.  I would pay.

  • AnonymousSam

    Vote Mark Calaway for president!

  • Donalbain

    If you pick up a musket, then you are not just saying that you are willing to die for your cause, you are willing to KILL for it. 

  • Tom

    Apologies if this post is disrespectful to those of you who are Christian – it is not my intention – but I can’t help thinking that this martyr syndrome is an unfortunate byproduct of the fact that Christianity is based upon the worship of a martyr.

    I don’t think it has to have any logic behind it – just that when one seems to be losing a battle it makes sense to tap into the (usually admirable) characteristics of Christ, willingness to die for a cause, being a sole voice against the establishment etc.  The fact that the battle they are losing is their right to control others is something that probably goes over their heads/that they don’t like to dwell on.

    After all, this kind of thing only seems to have manifested itself since gay people have started to be accepted by society and it’s started to look like the homophobes are losing.

  • The_L1985

    As an ex-Christian myself, I’m under the impression that it’s not martyr worship, so much as a rather distressing mangling of one of the Beatitudes.

    You see, both Matthew and Luke include “Blessed are you when people persecute you because of me.”  In Aristotelian logical form:  “If you are persecuted, and the reason for your persecution is that of your faith, then you are blessed.”

    I.e., if you do become a martyr for your faith, that is a good thing, but martyrdom is not a necessary thing.

    Unfortunately, there’s a rather large subset of the Christian population that does not understand that the converse of a true statement is not automatically also true.  In this case, the converse is “for you to be blessed, you MUST be persecuted, and that persecution MUST be because of your faith.”  Well, if you have to be persecuted in order to be a good Christian, then you must make yourself unpopular by using Christianity as an excuse to be a jerk.  Then, people are guaranteed to “persecute” you by disagreeing with you.

  • Consumer Unit 5012

    Unfortunately, there’s a rather large subset of the Christian population
    that does not understand that the converse of a true statement is not
    automatically also true.  In this case, the converse is “for you to be
    blessed, you MUST be persecuted, and that persecution MUST be because of
    your faith.”  Well, if you have to be persecuted in order to be a good
    Christian, then you must make yourself unpopular by using Christianity
    as an excuse to be a jerk.  Then, people are guaranteed to “persecute”
    you by disagreeing with you.

    Being the bitter cynic that I am, I’ve found myself wondering if there would be a market for a ‘pay-for’persecution’ business.  Someone signs up, signs a stack of waivers, and for small monthly fee, we’ll send them hate-mail, spread nasty rumors about them on the Internet, and phone in death-threats.  All the persecution they crave, in a pre-packaged, risk-free program!

    Having your car vandalized costs extra.

  • Amaryllis

    Hi, Victor! Peace upon all your cells.

    Victor! Victor! Victor! You are not “ONE” of my prophets and may
    never be so  please stop pretending that you are “ONE” and as far as
    sinner vic is concerned, let me take care of him for ya! OK?

    WHAT EVER YOU SAY LORD GOD but please don’t be too hard on sinner vic or should “I” say my 93% spiritual reality flesh cells?!

    If it comes to the choice, I’ll take Victor’s attitude over Garlow’s, any day.

    And may the judgment not be too heavy upon us..

  • Sigaloenta

    I don’t think Garlow’s exemplum of the Revolutionary-War Reverend Horatius at the bridge means what he thinks it means.    Here we have a man who symbolically puts off his religious role of pastor (he takes off his vestments and leads his congregation out of the church) when he assumes the (secular) role of militia leader.  This latter-day Leonidas, D.D. says to his men “here we die,” and does not add “for Christ” or “in the sight of the Lord” or even “let us pray for a good death.”   Unless Garlow thinks that the British were coming to perform same-sex marriages and hand out birth control.

  • http://twitter.com/FearlessSon FearlessSon

    In a metaphorical sense, I think that Jim Garlow’s analogy with the colonial pastor is apropos.  Yes, they are taking a stand in front of their opposition, and yes, their opposition is going to roll over them and they will be left broken and dead.  

    Granted, it will be nothing so quick and brutal as a regimental line-firing battle, but as a political battle in the culture war, this is one they are going to face their annihilation in, and they know it.  The end of days is upon them, and by “them” I mean Americans who use the Bible as a bulwark to shield their own homophobia.  

    Their faith will not protect their position of influence forever, and this stand will kill that influence.  They will die, years from now, presumably from natural causes, abandoned by their followers, forgotten and dismissed by the culture at large, and even only kept in contact only grudgingly with their own families, because they took this kind of stand today.  

    I may not wish death upon them, but I do wish them eventual rest.  May God have mercy on their embittered souls.  

  • Jessica

    This is one we go to the mat for.

    Unintentionally gay?! (This is my new thing, LOL and Fred’s remark about it was spot on)

    Also, the ability to like posts seems to negate any real  need to discuss much… Hrm.

  • veejayem

    Never fear, puppies and orphans! On the day that President Obama, in accordance with some Muslim/atheist/African/socialist ritual, is poised to throw you all into a volcano*, Jim Garland will be there to stop him. With a musket.**

    * Few people know that such a ritual is a mandatory part of the Gay Marriage Ceremony. You just throw puppies and orphans instead of confetti.

    ** A musket?! I very much doubt that the USian President who has access to all kinds of lethal shiny things, is going to lose any sleep over a musket. Mr Garland really, really needs to wake up and find out which century he’s living in.

  • LL

    Victor reminds me of Fafblog. 

  • Victor Savard

    Whow! I honestly don’t know where to start and part of me does not even believe “I” should start! Call me crazy :) but some of my cells tell me that “I” should just go to some far off corner of “ONE” of God’s Galaxies  and hide cause my grammar is the less of my worries. I should have listened to Joe Carter when he told me that I should never talk in the third person because people will start thinking that I’m crazy and “IT” was nice of him to say in so many words that he didn’t think that “IT” was the case with me back then. :)

    Folks, as most know, “IT” is hard and some might even agree that you can’t teach an old dog new tricks and because “I” was born in the year of the dog, that makes “IT” even harder for my humanity. Long story short, “I AM” who “I AM” and when Me, Myself, i, my soul and spirit become a GOD and (Good Old Dad) feels that “I’M” worthy to have my world where every “ONE” of my cells will have their own galaxies then “I” should be complete. Come to think about “IT” “Jesus” did tell U>S (usual sinners) in so many words to try and be perfect like His Heavenly Father is so “I” guess “I” might need to go to Angel School for awhile but that’s OK cause my gut feeling tells me that we’ll have all the time in the world. Mind ya! You must believe that a moment for “Jesus” is an XYZ kind of moment  for U>S human if you know what “I” mean spiritually speaking.

    In closing, I’ll just say that, I’m certainly not going to answer every coment that was directed my way here like “I” implied “I” would but if God puts “IT” in my heart to start a “Third Blog” in September but if “I” don’t stop I’m sure that I’ll find myself on someone’s “HIT”, I mean “IT” list if ya get my drift. :(

      Call me crazy again but “I” believe that we’ll have all the time needed to make “IT” to our own so called heaven so don’t be too hard on our brothers and sisters who want to go the long way around.  For God sake don’t agree with what you know in your heart of heart is wrong but then again you should never try to kill because of “IT”. Just remember that as “IT” was in the beginning, is NOW and “IT” will always be as far as “I” can see “IT”.

    I would ask for those who hate me and/or think “I” hate them to pray even harder for U>S  cause “Jesus” did say in so many words to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute ya and call me crazy one more time but “I” don’t think “I” really do have any enemies in this century.

    sinner vic would like to finish with a joke so go for “IT” sinner vic!

    Once UP on a Time there was a country and this country was so special that cause Turkeys would fly over “IT” in abundance that the hunters would line UP during hunting season but come to think about “IT” there was to regulated season and long story short, a plane was accidently shot down because of “IT”.

    That’s not funny in the real world sinner vic!:(

    Sorry Victor!

    Peace

  • AnonymousSam

    Interesting text parser script.

  • Victor

    (((Being the bitter cynic that I am, I’ve found myself wondering if there would be a market for a ‘pay-for’persecution’ business. )))

    Don’t we have enough problems created by sinner vic without you adding to “IT” Consumer Unit 5012? :(

    I hear ya U>S (usual sinners)! Having your car vandalized costs extra but we do have a sale on seeds if ya get my drift? :)

    Peace


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