Herman Cain, First Thoughts UPDATES

Reader Charles asked my take on Herman Cain?

UPDATE: Read my SECOND thoughts on Cain, here

I have to see more. I am waiting to see someone I really want to vote for, and that hasn’t happened yet, but Cain is certainly interesting and he deserves to be noticed. A pizza box may be flat and square, but Herman Cain does not appear to be.

What I’m liking so far:

Cain is undoubtedly a smart fellow; he seems to have a prodigious business sense, and I like the fact that he is up from ordinary multiple-job-carrying folks, as am I.

I like that he knows how to manage people and meet a payroll, although I am not yet sure how that translates into managing a government.

I like the fact that he majored in mathematics in college and took a graduate degree in Computer Science in 1971 — it shows me that he is forward-thinking; he was able to tune into a wave of the future while a lot of people were still wondering if 8-Track cassettes would last forever.

I like the fact that he was a member of the STRATCOM Citizen’s Advisory Board; it speaks to engaged citizenship and a servant’s spirit, and a curious mind that wants to continue to learn. This suggests to me that he may not believe he has all the answers. That’s important in a president.

I like that he can speak fluently but is not glib; he appears to speak from the heart, and is not afraid of taking heat for it.

I like that he is happily married to the same lady for over four decades, and that he has faced down serious illness. Having faced one’s own mortality often sharpens perspectives as to what is really important, and what is peripheral chaff. If it perhaps gives one a set-ness to one’s opinion, it also burnishes a sense of humor and playfulness. I miss having a president with a sense of humor and a touch of playfulness.

I like the fact that when his microphone went dead a few days ago, he burst into song with “The Impossible Dream.” Not so much for the song, itself, but for the fact that he is man capable of bursting into song — that he has that in his heart. It suggests to me a fearlessness and an interior freedom that perhaps we need to see more of.

If we want the nation to have an expansive soul, rather than a shriveled one, we need a president who has an expansive “chest” as it were — one that can breathe in the larger air we share, instead of the rarefied stuff, and let it out productively, with a song, rather than a sigh of disdain.

Then again, Ferdinand Marcos was known to sing, too!

That’s a joke, but I suspect Herman Cain would get the joke and laugh, rather than become defensive. And that would be a good thing.

I haven’t decided yet on Cain. I don’t worry so much about his not having held public office, before, although it might be an issue. I do think he overdoes his simplistic-sounding 999** plan almost unto self-parody. And the “electrified fences” thing? Not loving that idea, so I’m still checking the craze-o-meter.

There is a lot there to like, and some stuff to be leery about, but I haven’t closed the door on Cain yet, and I’m going to keep my eye on him. I mean, our current president had a lot less to recommend him, in ’08, but people voted him in. And these folks before our eyes do appear to be the only choices we’ll have. Sigh.

Besides, I love a baritone who can really wail it!

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UPDATE: Instapundit links! Thanks, Glenn!

UPDATE II: Jennifer Rubin says Cain messed up and ended his candidacy during last night’s debate:

Here’s a problem: A candidate with no public experience bases his entire presidential campaign on a gimmicky tax plan that proves to be ill-conceived and objectionable to his natural base of supporters. He then goes on national TV, advocates exchanging all the Gitmo detainees for a hypothetical captured American, denies in a debate that he said it and then afterward admits he “misspoke.” How does this candidate come back?

Must admit, when he walked back his Gitmo statement so weakly last night, I tweeted, “O dude, you didn’t misspeak…” And my husband, who’d been liking Cain a lot, winced.

Btw, if you want to follow me on Twitter, I’m @TheAnchoress

**Some folks on Twitter can back me up when I say I was the first to suggest — many weeks ago — that 999 sounded like a Pizza Deal, but it’s okay if others have used it! I’m generous like that! ;-)

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  • Terrye

    I like Herman Cain as a man. He is a good guy.

    However, I don’t much care for his 999 plan. I think it would be too hard on the working poor and middle class, especially at a time when so many people are having a hard time making ends meet.

    I do think that lowering rates and doing away with a lot of loopholes, deductions and credits as well as broadening the base is not a bad idea..but the sales tax is just too much.

    I also have wondered at how incurious Cain seems to be about certain foreign policy issues. It was not all that long ago that he did not know what the “right of return” for Palestinians was.

    I have not made up my mind about how I actually like the best, but I don’t want to vote for a charismatic man who says what people want to hear. We did that last time and look how it worked out.

  • friscoeddie

    9-9-9 in New Hampshire will be 17% tax on everything. milk and butter etc.
    He’ll never get out of NH with more than 10% of the GOP vote.

  • http://jscafenette.com/ Manny

    I love Herman Cain. He’s a really good man and one with the right values and work ethic. However he does not have the experience to be president. I do not want a second consecutive inexperienced man in the White House. He certainly would get my vote over Obama, but you have to run a state government or spend a lot of time in government before one is really qualified to be president.

  • http://yargb.blogspot.com Barry Dauphin

    There is a lot to like about Cain. That does not automatically qualify him to be president. He is smart (in a way that is underestimated). Still, there are lots of smart people that I would never want to be president. I think Cain’s 9-9-9 plan has gotten people to talk about reforming our whole tax structure. That is a great effect of his campaign. However, 9-9-9 is a very radical change to our current system. Anyone proposing a radical change has the obligation to discuss the details, the ramifications, and potential risks of this. Cain has not yet demonstrated a mastery of the details of the effects of such a radical change. I think there is no a priori reason to believe the 9% happens to be the magical number for each different tax. How convenient that income and capital gains should be taxed at that rate. Why 9%? I don’t think he is clear on this.

    I think there is reason to believe it would impose too much of a burden on lower income people, although I believe that everyone should have some “skin in the game” with respect to income taxes (because of what income taxes pay for). So, the principle of everyone paying something could get swept under the rug if the proposal is too burdensome for those in lower income brackets.

    Cain is definitely refreshing, and I can’t think of another candidate we can say that about.

  • Noah Gooding

    Did you hear, however, that he was asked for his opinion of the Neoconservative movement, and that he didn’t seem to know what it was?? There’s a link on the NRO site. Very strange, for a Republican candidate. Or for that matter anyone interested in politics.

  • Greta

    I hate the debate format and hate when one candidate tries to attack the others rather than present ideas. I also would like to see some start to drop out who appear to have minimal chance so we could see more of those who will be the candidate for the Republican Party.

    Rick Perry is kind of getting on my nerves and I do not see him lasting. Rick Santorum has several points that he is very good on and that are indeed important and being overlooked and that is focus on families and programs that will make them stronger, not programs to create more single parent homes.

    Newt has the most common sense things to say, but he is poison to many from his past.

    Bottom line is that any of them would be a massive improvement on Obama and all the candidates need to start comparing their programs and ideas to those of Obama, not each other. Let the American people here their ideas as contrasted to Obama and from that decide who they want to run against Obama.

  • Greenspan Screwed Us

    Sorry, but anyone that used to work for the Federal Reserve is not worthy of being the leader of the Free World.

    Cain praised Greenspan at last week’s Republican debate, too. Right away, in the unpredictable politics of 2011, it came off like a possible gaffe. Greenspan’s reputation isn’t what it once was, nor is the Fed’s.

  • http://yargb.blogspot.com Barry Dauphin

    Oops… I mean corporate rate instead of capital gains.

  • Wyatt Wingfoot

    I like Herman Cain the more I get to know about him.

    Sorry to be one of those “correctors” we all dislike. It should be “8-Track cartridges” not “8-Track cassettes.” Although an 8-Track cassette would’ve made for intriguing possibilities in regards to multi-track home recording back in the day. :)

  • Charles

    I have read comments on various blogs that the 9-9-9 plan would be hard on the working poor but I don’t understand that. My understanding is that it would replace the payroll tax which is about 15% if you consider employee and employer contributions. Since the 9% sales tax is only on new items I would expect it to be unlikely that the effective tax rate (sales tax plus 9% on income) for the working poor would be greater than 15%. What am I missing?

  • http://thehostages.wordpress.com Vmaximus

    Cain is a Fair Tax guy, and 999 is the first and only step to the Fair Tax His step. One can love it or hate it, but it is a alternative to the massive failure of the current tax system.

    Is anyone proposing anything other than continuing the current failure?

  • lovingmyUsa

    The chairman of a regional fed is something close to the opposite of the job currently held by Ben Bernanke as chairman of the Federal Reserve. The post is just a bit short of honorary, and offers a group of local business, labor, and community leaders a chance to interact with the local officials who, in turn, have a rather faint voice in the deliberations of the Federal Reserve in Washington. The local Fed officials operate as “data collectors, monitors for the local economy,” as the Heritage Foundation’s J.D. Foster puts it
    But Cain wasn’t setting monetary policy at the Fed. Mostly, he was chairing meetings, asking questions, and offering his own views on the regional economy. In short, get over it, the position was an honorary one, not a paid position…

  • whosebone

    please keep in mind that 999 is merely a transition to a fair tax basically outlined in neal boortzs book. cain is setting out an agenda, the concerns about 999 can and will be addressed in the legislation he will set out but he has to be elected first, and we can do it. if we lose this struggle between liberty and tyranny let us go down backing a true conservative. and if we lose i will need to apologize to my grandchildren for enslaving them to crushing debt.

  • Walter Sobchak

    9-9-9 is in fact an 18.7% tax on retail transactions.

  • Ziporay

    9-9-9- is not in fact an 18.7% tax on retail transactions. You are now paying payroll tax that you wouldn’t be paying which is 15%. Also, you neglect to mention that a product or service we buy is silently taxed along the way until we pay for it.Each time that product or service moves to the next stage it is taxed. So your taxes would be less than now. Do you really think a Republican would go to all this trouble to raise taxes? Heck, stay with Obama if you prefer to have your taxes raised.

  • http://midtownrepublican.com Georgeann King

    Perry is the most conservative of the bunch. Even if 9-9-9 is a good idea (which it isn’t) how could he get it through Congress? He has no experience in dealing with a legislature. Romneycare completely negates him. He’s a lib and was flustered last night. Perry is absolutely on the right track with energy and will be proposing a flat tax with the help of Steve Forbes. Watch Cain flame out.

  • http://breadhere.wordpress.com Fran Rossi Szpylczyn

    I am not superstitious at all, but when I see 9-9-9 thoughts of 6-6-6 creep into my mind. As for what I think about all that I have read and understand about 9-9-9, it is all not good in my eyes and would do little to stimulate the economy because of what it would add to retail sales. Add to that, states like NH that don’t even have a sales tax and I find it hard to see this working.

    That said, I am not afraid to say here that I think that Cain would be a terrible candidate and if elected, a not great president. A person as a candidate and a person as president are always two very different things.

    [Oh, my, Fran! You're in Michele Bachmann's corner with that 666 thing. :-) Bet you never expected that! Your points are valid enough. I never understood how people were able to cast their votes in '08 for a guy who had never held a real job, who had served a couple years of a senate term after a state senate career full of voting "present" but they did...a very different president than candidate (although in truth, I never thought Obama that dazzling a candidate, either; I thought hype,hype,hype given non-stop assists from an adoring press. That said, had he governed as he ran, we'd be loving him right now. From the moment he stepped into office, though, he's been entirely about something other than unity, post-partisanship, job-creation, limited executive rights. As soon as he disdained the public funding he'd previously said he'd embrace, in order to run a billion-dollar campaign (much of it coming through the very Wall Street folk he's currently trashing) I knew he said what ppl wanted to hear, not what he meant -admin]

  • Keith_Indy

    I’ve liked most of what I’ve seen about and from him. Read his recent book, and it does reveal a lot of the points brought up in this post.

    I tend to think of 9-9-9 as a starting point. Cain doesn’t pretend to have THE ANSWER, but does have a plan, and does acknowledge that he’d have advisers to shape policy. He’s also a man who knows where the buck stops, and where it comes from.

  • Dave F

    “There is a lot to like about Cain. That does not automatically qualify him to be president.”
    Seems to me that the only one out there ‘qualified’ to be president is the current president. How’s that workin for ya? Frankly anyone willing to run for president, we should seriously ask ourselves “What’s wrong with this guy?” because if he is willing to run for president, there IS something wrong with him. We need to be looking for not the best but the least messed up.
    To everyone wondering if he isn’t much of a politician, how will he get stuff through congress. Well, couldn’t we do with getting a little less stuff through congress. As for repealing ObamaCare and rolling back EPA, maybe cutting Depts of Education and Ag back by half, replacing union assistance with oversight, I don’t think the next president will be able to stop the next congress on those issues.
    Me, I could use a leader who has cleaned a toilet (never been claimed he has but don’t you really believe he has.)

  • dry valleys

    Discussion of Herman Cain in a right-wing, neoliberal and pro-establishment newspaper.


    To my mind, anyone who sneers at furrins in this way is ruled out automatically. International relations have never been more important than they are now, and there’s no place for someone who doesn’t have a fairly detailed grasp of the subject and seemingly doesn’t care enough to do the urgent thing, which is to appoint experts who know even more than himself.

    The biggest concern I have is Romney, who looks set to win. He wants to portray himself as the sane, moderate candidate, and it’s easy to do so given some of his rivals, but he’s glad to have them around really since it masks the fact that he is himself deeply right-wing… if he’s anything at all, which is a fairly big if.

    I also recall Cain saying he’d discriminate against Muslims in appointing his cabinet. There’s a Muslim in the British cabinet now who is a pretty cast-iron conservative, and are we supposed to say that her counterparts in Herman Cain’s America couldn’t aspire to high office because they are a fifth column who aren’t truly part of the country at all? That seems to me more a stunt than the actions of a serious-minded policy maker.

    [I was reading this newspaper- there was also a bit about women in Arab countries that I liked.

    http://www.economist.com/node/21532256 ]

  • Andrew

    Can I just say that the one thing (possibly two things) that Herman Cain has over Admiral Rick Perry – LIKEABILITY and the ability to express himself clearly and concisely. Perry is as likeable as a rattlesnake. He does not come across as having any warmth at all. Cain makes him look like an angry corpse. Cain can also speak in complete sentences. I know warmth does not a candidate make but think about Ronald Reagan – Clinton – and even GWB on occasion – they all had/have a degree of warmth and humor with which they could deliver their messages. Perry is a sure LOSER.

  • kevin

    Isn’t it a fact that 50% of the population pays no taxes already? So talk about “increasing” the tax burden on them is a democrat distortion.

    Everyone should have to contribute something in taxes. A person who earns a million dollars under the 9-9-9 plan will pay $90,000 in income taxes. The poor person who earns $15,000 will pay $1,350. So the wealthier person will pay 66% more in taxes than the less well off person. The wealthy will continue to pay far more taxes under a flat tax plan, a fact which the media intentionally disguises.

  • dry valleys

    Totally disagreed, Kevin. The actual model of a progressive income tax is much fairer than any known alternative, such as this half-baked scheme, or the sales taxes beloved of conservative governments (one of the first acts of the right-wing regime in Britain was to raise it).

    One of the few good things David Camoron has done (and it wasn’t even his idea, it was the idea of the junior partners in the coalition government) was to raise the income tax threshold. I now pay less tax than I did two years ago. I figured it out, I am £6.49 (around $10?) better off per week. That really makes a difference, or would if it weren’t for me being hit in other ways thanks to the neoliberal system, but the concept of some people keeping all of the pittance they earn is a good one. It would also, of course, mean that taking an ill-paid job is more appealing when set against not having a job (this is also, naturally, an argument that can be deployed in favour of having a minimum wage).

  • http://www.strata-sphere.com AJStrata

    I love the way you filled out the person who is Cain, and I agree whole heartedly that we need a leader with a sunny, bursting, positive spirit.

    BTW, those with doubts about 9-9-9 need to open their minds for a second and do some basic math. I did, and I found a lot of gems in 9-9-9.


    If you focus on one 9 only (like sales taxes) and don’t do all the gives and takes across income related taxes and sales taxes, you miss the fact we all will be walking around with a lot more disposable income, and we the people will be investing in America’s economy and future with that larger disposable income – NOT the pols and bureaucrats in DC.

  • dry valleys
  • kevin

    The person earning $1 million in a given year actually pays 660 times in income taxes what the person earning 15,000 pays. That is pretty “progressive” to me.

    AJ is correct. Instead of paying $390,0000 in income tax, the high earner will pay $90,000 and have $300,000 in additional disposable income. This will light a fire under consumer spending and the economy, everyone will benefit, rich and poor. We need to remember that the poor do not create jobs as a rule, the wealthy do. We have to stop thinking that they need to be punished or are being greedy. Most got their money by hard work.

  • R.C.

    I don’t get it.
    Why is it that people think that 9-9-9 will raise the price of anything, when the 9% sales tax replaces (rather than adding to) the existing embedded taxes that are going away?

  • Maureen

    You should take a look at Canada’s Goods and Services Tax (GST) which was implemented in 1989 to do away with the manufacturer’s sales tax (which was a nightmare to administer). Lots of critics at the time, but it has been a windfall to the government coffers (even after rebates to low-income people) and some exceptions.

    The next stage was to combine the various provincial sales taxes with the federal GST so that there is one tax (already in effect in Quebec, Ontario and the Maritime provinces) – it makes sense for businesses to only have to report one tax.

    The reality is that the US has a huge problem between spending and revenue – yes one route is to control spending (but that doesn’t seem to be happening) but the other is to increase revenue in a way that is fair to all (not the silly tax the rich approach). A national sales tax (based on consumption) is one way – but it has to be done in conjunction with reducing spending and reducing overall tax rates and complexity of the tax system.

  • firstHat

    999 will be toughest on the NON-working poor who will need to depend on projected lower prices we would hope would result in the lower taxes on production and such. We’d hope (but can by no means expect) that if 10% of the price of (for example) milk is because of taxes on farm owners, bottlers and distributors, the price of milk should drop 10% if those taxes go away. I’m not sure that we could depend on that reduction.

    HOWEVER the plan would result in a noticeable drop in expenses for the WORKING poor who have been paying 15% of their total wages on payroll taxes. These people would no longer be paying that 15% on their total wages and would instead only pay 9% on that portion of their wages they spend on NEWly produced purchases (purchases of second hand or used items such as a second hand car would have no sales tax).

  • Doc

    Cain is my # 2 after Santorum. 9-9-9 makes me nervous, however, because I don’t trust congress to be given a new tax to play with without repealing the income tax amendment. I am disappointed that no candidates are proposing closing entire cabinet departments. Government will not shrink without actions of this magnitude.

  • Jason

    What is missing from the conversation is that most are talking about a creative way (999) to get the same revenue. The issue is not so much revenue as it is spending. If no one is serious about substantial reductions in spending instead of where we relieve the revenue acquisition burden, then our haricut will come involuntarily and painfully.

  • Keith_Indy

    Doc: FYI Ron Paul has proposed closing entire cabinet depts, and reducing the others…

  • kevin

    We can no longer afford the Departments of Education and Housing and Urban Development. Just can’t afford them. Time to tighten our belts and that includes Washington.

  • R.C.

    Of course we need to reduce entitlement spending.

    On that note, is there any reason why the following plan for reducing Social Security’s deficit isn’t accepted by everyone, in a pretty easy, casual way?

    1. For anyone currently receiving Social Security, they continue to do so;

    2. For anyone two years or more away from receiving Social Security, the number of years away they are increases by 50%; that is: 2 years goes to 3; 6 years goes to 9; 10 years to 15; and so on, with a maximum eligibility age equal to the mean life expectancy of U.S. residents (in 2007, that was 78 years).

    3. Take the maximum eligibility age mentioned in #2 (78 years) and update it annually to the new mean life expectancy. This number, which moves from year to year, becomes the new Social Security eligibility age. But no-one who is less than a year from retirement will have his time-to-eligibility increased; once you’re within a year, your eligibility age remains fixed, even if the life expectancy goes up.

    4. When Social Security runs surpluses, if it ever does, do not permit the surpluses to build up to vast amounts and get used as they currently are used (I.O.U.s from the government to itself, which in turn promotes overspending). Instead, increase the pay-out amounts for current retirees sufficiently to eliminate half the surplus for any given year. This reduces the future temptation to become addicted to overspending funded by worthless borrowing against future generations…and it makes this plan a mite more attractive to the elderly, who’re normally twitchy about changes to Social Security, even when those changes won’t even affect them.

    Now it seems clear to me that this reduction saves vast amounts of money, probably enough to rescue the program from insolvency, and the long-term updating of the eligibility age to keep up with changes in life expectancy means that it’ll stay solvent. And, the persons who’re hurt most by the change are the folks who’re farthest away from it, who care least about it, and who honestly don’t ever expect to get Social Security anyway.

    So why hasn’t this reform, or something like it, already passed?

  • fiestamom

    I’m willing to vote for Cain *precisely* because he’s not a politician. Career politicians are the ones who have gotten us into the mess we’re in. The over spending, refusal to cut budgets. Look at John Boehner. I think he’s a nice enough guy, he’s pro-life, but he’s always trying to make a deal with democrats at the democrat starting point.

    Frankly, I”m not sure if I’m 100% behind the 9-9-9. I wish he would have just started with the Fair Tax. As far as Jennifer Rubin…. just another Washington insider, she’s a person deemed by the Washington Post to be an acceptable conservative. I’m tired of being told by esteemed pundits when a candidate is unelectable. Let us decide.

    Having said that, if it’s Romney or Perry, I’ll just have to dig out my clothespin that I used in 08 when I voted for McCain, but I really voted for Palin.

  • K P Winterer

    Jennifer Rubin is 24/7 pro Romney like so many other ‘inside the beltway’ bloggers. It seems to me that any candidate challenging him is subject to her constant bashing: first Perry, now Cain. She used to be such an intelligent reporter when she was the lead on CONTENTIONS blog; now at WAPO she’s just another conservative-hater. Something in the water? Whenever I see one of her articles I wonder if she’s on Romney’s payroll; if not, she should be.

  • Terrye

    There is no way that a sales tax on food and medicine is going to be loved in this country. There is also no way that it will not hurt the working poor.
    And it is not true that 50% pay no taxes…roughly 47% pay no federal income taxes..but many of those people are not even the poor, they are middle and upper middle class people who have enough breaks and deductions to avoid federal income taxes.

    However, they still pay social security taxes and medicare taxes and local and county and state taxes.

    I think that lowering rates and broadening the tax base while doing away with some deductions is not a bad idea..but there are people out there who are having trouble paying the light bill. The idea that you can impose a national sales tax on those people and an income tax as well and not make their lives a lot more difficult is just naive.

  • richard40

    Glad to hear that Cains degree is computer science. To get that degree you have to have real brains, and not just the ability to parrot leftist claptrap back to a professor. And that degree, combines with his business degree, means that sound economics, and making budget numbers add up, will not be a foreign concept for him.

  • Becca

    I just read an interview where he said that he is pro choice and and gay marriage because he says the government shouldn’t get involved in ‘social decisions’ or whatever…so, bye bye Herman Cain.

  • dry valleys

    Let’s say President Herman Cain becomes unpopular, and has to deal with a Democrat majority in the House and Senate, an even harder situation than Obama is in now. Hands up if you see that one ending well!

  • dry valleys

    (in 2014, I mean)

  • RGB

    I don’t know about Cain enough yet, but like his no nonsense, commonsense persona. As far as the electrified fences, well I don’t like it but having lived in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico where there are 8-10 violent executions daily by the vicious drug cartels and corrupt cops, and with close to 50k dead on that drug war in the Mexican side, the idea doesn’t sound as crazy anymore.

  • Rhinestone Suderman

    RGB, Mexico, at this point, is an imploding country. The drug cartels are the de facto new government. And the violence is spreading into the U.S. now.

    Something needs to be done. We can’t go on ignoring this problem.

  • Doc

    Becca, Cain did not give any interview like you just described. Please supply a link to the transcript. He has been pro-life from the start of his campaign.

  • Doc

    Looks like I was wrong. Herman agreed to be interviewed by a liberal, gets walked into a corner, and falls all over himself. Followed by backpedal…again. I guess his inexperience is showing.

  • http://econus.blogspot.com RB Miller

    The great thing about Herman Cain is that he is an Outsider…So, he will make some minor mistakes here and there.

    However, his 999 Plan is bold as it wipes out the current corrupt, government pick winners, system. He is winning by 7 in Iowa, 11 in South Carolina, up by 2 or tied in Florida ….and a strong 2nd in New Hampshire.

    Also, Nationally, Cain is either ahead or tied with Romney. What people are expressing they like about Cain is his candid views (expect minor mistakes) and his experience as a business person and and strong leadership skills.

    …Now, Cain has to translate his early success and transition into a national campaign by adding staff and refining his views on other issues. Give him some time to adjust…we wanted an outsider and we got one.


  • friscoeddie

    Cain sounds to me he is pro-choice.

    with a smile he will’ walk back’ and this please the uninformed
    He ‘walked back’ Gitmo
    He ‘walked back 9-9-9
    He has NOT yet walked back ‘no capital gains’ but when ‘they’ catch on that it means ‘no taxes for the super rich .. he’ll ‘run that one back’
    I hope he walks back to Ga.