Our Daughters Dreams Arise from this Glad Slaughter!


Rubens; Saturn Devouring his Child

The president, whose administration last Friday declared that religiously-founded institutions — schools, hospitals and charities — have no right to their own consciences when it comes to paying for contraception, abortifacients and sterilization — dropped these pearls for us on the occasion of the anniversary of Roe v Wade, a law passed some 40 million abortions ago:

As we mark the 39th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, we must remember that this Supreme Court decision not only protects a woman’s health and reproductive freedom, but also affirms a broader principle: that government should not intrude on private family matters. I remain committed to protecting a woman’s right to choose and this fundamental constitutional right. While this is a sensitive and often divisive issue- no matter what our views, we must stay united in our determination to prevent unintended pregnancies, support pregnant woman and mothers, reduce the need for abortion, encourage healthy relationships, and promote adoption. And as we remember this historic anniversary, we must also continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.

Shall we look at that more closely?

As we mark the 39th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, we must remember that this Supreme Court decision not only protects a woman’s health and reproductive freedom, but also affirms a broader principle: that government should not intrude on private family matters.

This comes out of the chutzpah-laden mouth of a man whose administration just last Friday — on the third anniversary of his empty, meaningless inaugural address — defined down the whole notion of protecting freedom by declaring that religious schools, hospitals, charities and more — any religious body that employs people outside of a very narrow scope — are no longer free to live by their own consciences, but must instead violate those consciences by order of his own government.

Color me a cynic, but I wasn’t as as shocked as some to see this Administration double down against the churches. And I’m not sure I want to take my definition of “protection” or “freedom” from a man who seems to pick-and-choose what the words mean — and from a very illiberal perspective, for that matter.

I remain committed to protecting a woman’s right to choose and this fundamental constitutional right.

The president is a man who is committed to protecting “rights” that are not specifically enumerated within the constitution, while equally committed to disregarding or limiting rights that are fundamentally and specifically stated; rights upon which the nation was founded and which, indeed, are so crucial to America’s understanding of who she is and why she is necessary that they are the very first rights mentioned.

While this is a sensitive and often divisive issue- no matter what our views, we must stay united in our determination to prevent unintended pregnancies, support pregnant woman and mothers, reduce the need for abortion, encourage healthy relationships, and promote adoption.

Take note of his priorities. They do not speak of an understanding that life is a gift to celebrate; it is — first and foremost — a thing to be prevented. But yeah, if an unintended pregnancy happens, and the woman insists on having the thing, we should “support” the women in some vague way and oh, yeah, there’s adoption! Increasingly, the churches (who, in many cases offered adoption and child-placement services before the states were even thinking about it) are being disinvited from involving themselves in that worthy act, unless they will — here we go again — deny their own consciences and cease to be who they proclaim themselves to be, in order to conform to the government’s ideas of who and what they should be.

And as we remember this historic anniversary, we must also continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.

Let’s spell this out; let’s clarify this vague, euphemistic line, for the sake of transparency, shall we? Because this dual-mouthed president is all about transparency — he even won an award for it, which he received without press — the fulfillment of our daughter’s dreams lie in the freedom and ease with which a sucking hose or a scraping curette may introduce violence and slaughter within their wombs, at the very core of their beings, in order to shred their children to pieces. For this 100% NARAL-approved president who passed up every opportunity to show even a scintilla of mercy for a baby born alive during an attempted abortion, our daughter’s dreams depend on their being able to find someone who will burn their baby in utero, or shove a pair of scissors into the partially-delivered child’s skull, or to close the lid on the garbage pail until the bothersome crying ends.

In Obama’s world, our daughter’s happiness depends upon having these options at their disposal, literally and figuratively. Because love, and the sneaky way it has of showing up whenever a baby is born and then complicating everything, (because it is meaningful and real) is an insufficient vehicle for the fulfillment of women, and their self-actualization.

Arise, daughters of America, and build your dreams upon the slaughter of your progeny; some say the fullness of our humanity was built upon the flesh and blood of one woman who said “yes” to a daunting and difficult proposal, but I say your fulfillment, your dreams and your future are better built upon the garbage heaps of “no” we’ve encouraged you to form out of your own flesh-and-blood in the empty landfills of government compassion, hope and change.

Because “yes we can,” is all about the hope and change that’s built on our emphatic “noes”. No, to life. No, to conscience. No, to compassion that is not mandated. No, to assistance given by any but government. No, to any power greater than ourselves and our glorious government.

“I don’t want them punished with a baby”

Moloch couldn’t have said it more cunningly.

Today I feel great sadness and compassion for all of the women who have bought into this at some point in their lives and aborted their children, and who have suffered — often for decades, often in deep loneliness — for their babies. The lie that abortion provides, at it’s core, some ultimate “good” is a lie that has stood too long.

Here is what you need to know about this unconscionable HHS ruling

Some Perspective: Thanks to Ed Morrissey (and ABC!)

Related:
Danielle Bean: why we march!
EWTNWatch Life
Peter Kreeft: The Apple Argument against abortion
Holy Courage: what it takes
Kathy Schiffer: Benedict XVI’s prayer for the unborn
Robert Royal: Divine Impatience
The silliest pro-abortion argument: is the one you hear all the time
Kathryn Jean Lopez: Suing Sebelius
Tina Korbe: March for Life expected to draw 100,000
Picking a fight with Catholics?: No, with all the churches, and people better realize it!
First Things: The “R” word
Frank Weathers: The Life at Conception Act
Powerlineblog: Obama’s words about government intrusion on family matters are laughable and phony
Deacon Greg: “It’s life; you do what you have to do”
Running Roughshod: Over the Constitution
Mark Shea: not a man of few words and what the press is covering instead of the march
First Things: On and For Life, The “best of”
Michelle Malkin: a great roundup
USCCB: vowing to fight
Steven Greydanus: liveblogging the march
Msgr. Charles Pope: Experiencing life
Public Discourse: The Unbearable Wrongness of Roe

About Elizabeth Scalia
  • Mark

    Catholics today have it in their power to reverse Roe. Everyone who has voted Democrat should send two letters out today. One to the Democratic Party that your support for them is over forever if they support the legalized murder of babies and the ongoing attacks on religious freedom. The second letter should be a copy sent to your local paper. The party of death would have to change or end any hope of being ever elected again. Forget the problems you might have with the Republican Party because they can be fixed after we end legal abortion and restore religious freedom. It would show that party the power that people of faith have on their very existence and from then on we could restore our nation to one nation under God. We also need to get all those who do not vote and are pro life out to vote against the part of death. We no longer have to wait because Jesus has placed in our hands the power to make this change in the country and in our culture. Imagine what would happen in the next election if the party of death lost 50% of the Catholic vote that they normally could count on every election? They would lose almost every state and lose the house and senate with huge margins. It would also mean the Republican Party would have to act on this mandate and it would insure they pay attention to the values Christians hold dear. We need to unite in a true ecumentical movement to bring together all faiths who want to end abortion and to end attacks on religious freedom. It is a way to a new birth of freedom and values in this country.

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  • kevin

    Great post. “Fundamental constitutional right.” Yeah right. So fundamental that it didn’t exist for the first 200 years of our country’s existence. I think he means the one found inside certain “penumbras,” which makes it, at best, a nebulous, derivative constitutional right. But heck, let’s call it fundamental.

    And this from a guy who allegedly taught constitutional law somewhere?

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  • http://Janehartman.com Jane Hartman

    I’m very scared. I’m distrustful of the press and of our leaders. I’m angry as hell at so-called Catholics who support Pro-choice in all its manifestations. I hope that I will be able to be strong enough to stand for the truth, no matter where it leads. God help us….

  • Boxster

    To the progressive left, wrong is right, bad is good (even if they don’t agree that there even is an objective “good”). This has been a bad faith president from the start, so we can give him marks for consistency.
    I loved your passion, conviction, it was literally jumping off the page. Well done, Anchoress, gird yourself as you continue to evervate and rally us. Well done.

  • Peggy R

    Stupendous post!

    God have mercy on our nation.

  • Jen

    Elizabeth, posts like this are why I love you so much. God bless you for your fearless candor and laser-like ability to cut through the crap.

  • http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/ Todd

    Give me a third party, please. The GOP is no more interested in ending abortion (and losing votes) than the Dems are. I’ve been pro-life since I understood the issue in grade school. I’ve occasionally held my nose to vote for a candidate, but I’m inclined more than ever to reject major party politics.

    Meanwhile, I hope Archbishop Dolan and some good lay people can get a national Catholic health insurance up and running. He’s got twelve months to do it.

  • Brian English

    “Give me a third party, please. The GOP is no more interested in ending abortion (and losing votes) than the Dems are.”

    So the GOP wasn’t responsible for getting the Partial Birth Abortion Ban passed? What about the Born Alive Act? Who got Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito on the Supreme Court? (And please spare me the Kennedy responses; Bork should have been confirmed instead, but there were too many Democrats in the Senate).

    Wasn’t it the Republican controlled House that voted to defund Planned Parenthood? Are you claiming that all the Pro-Life GOP members in Congress are liars? What evidence do you have to support that extraordinary assertion?

    “I’ve occasionally held my nose to vote for a candidate, but I’m inclined more than ever to reject major party politics.”

    Music to the ears of Obama, Axelrod and company. I know some Catholics consider their disdain for the two-party system to be evidence of their great sophistication, but this election is far too important for moral posturing. Sebelius acknowledged in a speech to her pro-abortion friends that we are at war. Time for people to wake up.

  • http://angelabeegle.weebly.com Angela Beegle

    It’s a mistake to think that abortion, infanticide, or infanticide that focuses on the destruction of female children is anything new. There have always been herbal or other ‘treatments’ to ‘bring on menses’ (cloaked phrase meaning ‘induce early miscarriage’), and the deliberate exposure of excess or unwanted infants has been well documented from ancient Greece, to Europe following the Black Death, to so-called ‘primitive tribes’ such as modern day Yanomamo and !Kung peoples, to….modern Western Society “health care”. The only things that are different now are that a) most people are genuinely ignorant of abortion and infanticide throughout human history and b) we think we’ve evolved as humans beyond this barbarity. Of the latter, all I can say is, we haven’t. Mostly now, we just kill them before they’re born instead of waiting until birth, because we can. That’s all.

  • Mark

    Todd, still in denial. third party pro life is a vote for abortion and Obama. The Catholics who continue to vote for democrats and those who throw away their vote deny the majorities needed to force through the end to legal abortion. Todd, please show me one year since Roe when the Republicans have had 60 sentate seats and a pro life majority in the house and a Republican President. Reagan and Bush I never had a Republican House.

    If all those who claim to care about life sent letters out to the democratic party that they had lost any hope of being pro abortion and getting their vote and a copy of this letter to their local paper and then followed that with solid votes to the Republican Party based on their voting to end abortion and put judges in place to actually follow what is written in the Constitution, we can change our country overnight by putting power in the hands of those who will be measured by what they actually accomplish.

    The mistake some republicans have made is voting for republicans who do not have solid pro life credentials as some are doing now with Romney. It has to be either Newt as both have measurable long term pro life records, Newt for over 20 years and Santorum while he was in office. When we have a nominee, the choice on life is clear. Of course even Romney MIGHT be better than Obama. Hard to be worse.

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  • Brian English

    “Of course even Romney MIGHT be better than Obama. Hard to be worse.”

    There is no MIGHT about it. I doubt very much Romney wants to be a one-term president.

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  • http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/ Todd

    Catholic Republicans, heads in the sand.

    Nixon appointees went 3-1 for Roe. It was largely a GOP court in those days. Some of us have long memories.

    The only people forcing abortions in the US are husbands, boyfriends, and parents. Though granted, peer pressure and ignorance contribute greatly. Still, it makes me skeptical of a great many pro-life political initiatives that happen to coincide with the GOP. The system is set up to maintain this horrific tension, to keep the status quo on abortion in the US. To my knowledge, China has lawfully-enforced abortions, does it not? Most all of us have items in our nice warm pro-life houses manufactured by people who, thanks to getting an abortion, were able to continue to work in the assembly line that end at our doors.

    I would suggest that pro-life Catholics refrain from speaking of the other side as pro-abortion. It’s another caricature designed to raise the fever in the base. It means nothing at best, and is a bald-faced lie in many cases.

    The truth is that one million women could choose this year not to have an abortion, and there would be no law, no judiciary against it. 54 million abortions? All that means is that a Catholic, twice or so in a lifetime, has to make a difference and persuade a neighbor to choose life. Doesn’t seem so hard, does it?

    One problem with many pro-lifers is that you’re just not persuasive enough to make your case unless you can threaten someone into agreeing with you. The situation on the ground is not significantly different today from ten, twenty, or forty years ago. I don’t think it will change–neither party has any motivation to do so–until we reject both of them wholesale, and if need be, surface our own candidates.

    I want no part of this march, but then that doesn’t make me different from most pro-life GOP politicians and every GOP president.

  • Sarah

    Very well said. Thank you, Ms. Scalia.

  • Brian English

    “Nixon appointees went 3-1 for Roe. It was largely a GOP court in those days. Some of us have long memories.”

    Your long memory apparently doesn’t include the fact that Nixon was not a pro-life president, nor would the GOP itself have been considered a pro-life party at that point in history.

    “I would suggest that pro-life Catholics refrain from speaking of the other side as pro-abortion. It’s another caricature designed to raise the fever in the base. It means nothing at best, and is a bald-faced lie in many cases.”

    Why would anyone consider a suggestion from you on this subject? And the Obama Adminstration, Planned Parenthood and their cronies are not pro-abortion?

    “One problem with many pro-lifers is that you’re just not persuasive enough to make your case unless you can threaten someone into agreeing with you.”

    Talk about a head in the sand. And what threats are your referring to?

    “The situation on the ground is not significantly different today from ten, twenty, or forty years ago.”

    Now you are just demonstrating your ignorance. The pro-abortion types don’t agree with you either, which is why they are running scared.

    “I don’t think it will change–neither party has any motivation to do so–until we reject both of them wholesale, and if need be, surface our own candidates.”

    So you are back to calling all of the pro-life GOP members of Congress liars. Where is your evidence?

  • http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/ Todd

    “Why would anyone consider a suggestion from you on this subject?”

    This would illustrate my point perfectly. I’ve been pro-life for decades. I’ve marched, written, volunteered, and advocated, taken personal steps, including adopting a child no one else wanted, and I’ve been fairly clear about being pro-life outside of politics.

    Brian, you and the commentariat here can’t convince me. So what possible hope have you with people who are real fence-sitters? I think it’s time for some pro-lifers to take a time-out from the front lines. I seriously wonder if the name-calling, the bitterness, the reading incomprehension, and the political focus are harming the effort rather than helping it.

    I think y’all have a storring message for people who agree with you. But they aren’t too likely to get an abortion, are they?

  • Dwiss

    You’re at your best today, Anchoress.

  • http://victor-undergo.blogspot.com/ Victor

    (((I want no part of this march, but then that doesn’t make me different from most pro-life GOP politicians and every GOP president.)))

    As a Canadian, I don’t even know what march we’re talking about and forgiven me Anchoress but I also have not even read any of the sites that you worked so hard to provide U>S (usual sinners) but nevertheless, you’ve always allowed me my so called Canadian two cents worth and so here “I” go again.

    Anyway while trying to remember while writing that this is not about me, “IT” is about “The Unborn” and “I” guess that for the fact that I’ve had a short stay on four occasions at a mental hospital and that my wife and “I” have raised five (5) lovely daughters and by the way I hear ya! True they don’t all agree with me on everything but “ONE” thing that they do agree on is that so far not “ONE” of them would have ever had an abortion and speaking from the heart, me, myself and i don’t want to be-little any woman who have cause long story short, “Life does happens.

    I really don’t know where to start so “I” will say that we humans must stand for what is “Good” and “GOD” is in charge of telling our heart what is truly “Good” and all we need do is to keep ourselves balanced to do what is “Right” and like the days of old, “Old Loving Dad” is always there and ready to give U>S a helping hand but we must first ask with a sincere heart and He will answer US. I hear ya! What about woman? Yes what about Eve?

    Yes, “I” see that this is even deeper than my 66 years that my cells have lived on this planet of ours and I say 66 instead of 65 years because “I” value those months in my mother’s womb just as much.

    Anyway folks good luck in your election of president and “IT” is a shame that “The Holy Spirit” did not place His Name on your voting list.

    I hear ya Anchoress! You see Victor, “IT” is because “The Holy Spirit” is neither male & or female and most feel that He would not understand women’s problems. Don’t tell souls but “The Truth” is that some might even try to double cross HIM and remember that Jesus did say in so many words over 40 millions abortions ago that most of U>S don’t know what we’re doing! Long story short Victor, Jesus also said in so many other words that “The Holy Spirit” never forgets, if you get my drift and “I” also hear that He’s got quiet “The Temper” if you know what “I” mean?

    Whatever you say Anchoress! :)

    Shalom

  • Brian English

    “Brian, you and the commentariat here can’t convince me. So what possible hope have you with people who are real fence-sitters?”

    Convince you of what?

    You appear to me to be one of those bitter, left-wing Catholics who have had their political party deteriorate into a death cult and don’t know what to do about it except to lash out with your seamless garment at anyone who notes that indsiputable fact.

    I am asking you for a third time — Do you have any evidence to support your claim that the pro-life members of the GOP are charlatans who adopt their position simply to get votes? Apparently John Boehner, Chris Smith and Eric Cantor didn’t get the memo, since they were at the March for Life today. Or is that just more of their cunning duplicity?

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  • Manny

    Fabulous!! Your best. I’m on a blackberry and can’t write much. You brought tears to my eyes. May God have a special place in his heart for those poor aborted souls.

  • Doc

    How does Todd phrase his contributions? Ahh, yes. Stinkbombs. As Reagan said to Carter, there you go again! Let me translate one part of Todd’s stinkbomb:

    I would suggest that pro-life Catholics refrain from speaking of the other side as pro-abortion. It’s another caricature designed to raise the fever in the base. It means nothing at best, and is a bald-faced lie in many cases.

    Actually means, Republican pro-lifers are killing Democrats in the polls and this makes me very sad. I miss Speaker Pelosi (a good Catholic like me).

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  • http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/ Todd

    “Convince you of what?”

    To vote for a Republican for president, to agree with your anger, to think abortion will be solved by politicians, to write two letters, that progressives alone are to blame, etc..

    “Ahh, yes. Stinkbombs.”

    I embrace the metaphor. I have no problem with thinking outside the box, with trying a different tack from what has been used, mostly fruitlessly for the past two generations.

    On the other hand, Doc, I don’t think that the readers here nor I need you to translate. First, we’re all adults and can read for ourselves. And second, you’re just not that great a linguist. Speak for yourself. Argue your own position better. Don’t try to interpret what others are saying or doing.

  • G Murphy

    What will the bishops do if this gets gets implemented? In New York, Cardinal O’Connor once said he would close the hospitals if an order requiring employers to insure same-sex partners was allowed to stand. It wasn’t. At Mass just this evening, the priest in his homily said that the government is “forcing” Catholics, etc., to go against their consciences. That sounds like he expects the bishop to go along with Obama’s regs.

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  • Brian

    The leaders of the Catholic Church do not understand that freedom of religion does not include the “freedom” to impose their religious beliefs on others. Female employees of Catholic institutions, such as schools and hospitals, have just as much right to use contraception as anyone else. Their employer does NOT have the right to force them to follow their religious beliefs in the privacy of their own home.

    [Really? So, if a Christian waitress is employed by a Kosher restaurant, she has the right to demand that they cook her a non-kosher meal? The fact that she knew she was being employed by Kosher Jews and chose to accept that employment does not come into it? If a Muslim accepts employment in a porn shop, he has the right to demand that it put brown paper over its covers? admin]

  • Mark

    Todd, you are lost in your own world. You do not think outside the box as this requires thinking through your position and the possibilities. You argue for a third party “Give me a third party, please. The GOP is no more interested in ending abortion (and losing votes) than the Dems are.” Only a total fool would not see a third party that is pro life simply splits the pro life vote and puts a pro abortion partner of the abortion mills back in for 4 more years. Can you acknowledge that is in fact true? Then you say that really political solutions are not the answer. How does this square with wanting a third party that can’t win fixing the problem? You add “I’ve been fairly clear about being pro-life outside of politics”. Well, the explosion of abortion started when it was made legal by judges who were appointed by politicians so you have to go political to solve the legal question. You often use Nixon. Yes, Nixon may well have been pro abortion. But Nixon was also deeply flawed and horrible on many moral issues. Roe came along as Nixon was going out and Ford was weak as well on life. Republicans first pro life president was Reagan. Bork would have been a major win on the pro life cause. The democrats killed him beacuse they saw him challenging their pro abortion position. The drove their stake in the ground that any appointment that was not seen as pro abortion would be fought with everythng the party could muster including lies. Still, despite all the blockage by the party of death, as Brian pointed out we have Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and Alito. Name the 10 major pro life democrats who have had a significant impact on reversing Roe since 1973? Even the pro life democrats of 1960 became pro abortion to meet party requirements.

    I think everyone should do everything they can to end abortion. My wife Greta just called me from DC where she marched today and attended the Rose dinner. She is fighting cancer and is in her 70′s. She has worked on the front lines of abortion almost daily for over 30 years. We have paid a huge personal price at the abortion mill and have been blessed by the wonderful friendships of over 200 moms we have helped to keep their babies. We are godparents and defactor grandparents to well over 300 kids who would have been killed in abortion mills. We have given most of our retirement funds to pro life causes. And yes, we use common sense to see that if Catholics simply stopped voting for democrats, legal abortion on a federal level could be ended sending it back to the states where many would vote to end abortion there as well. We see stopping the democratic party as being the same as germans stopping hitler and his death camps. Some have said the Catholic Church did not do enough during the nazi holocaust. They certainly did more than many in the Catholic Church have done in our American holocaust.

    So Todd, you can keep your position and answer to your conscience when you face Jesus and the millions of babies He will have at His side and answer, what did you do to end the murder of all my children? I will be able to look into my sould and say I have done everything, inlcuding urging Catholics to vote to end the holocaust as number one priority in their lives Lord, and I also gave up everything in my personal life including my life savings to help save your children. For Jesus sake and your own soul, at least vote to get the abortion mills PARTNER out of office.

  • Alifa

    In the 1970s, I was moderately pro-”choice” — mostly because as a nurse, I understood that there are some medical situations in which termination of pregnancy needs to be discussed. ( I am not speaking of the now-routine abortion of fetuses who appear to have Down’s Syndrome, but of other medical problems.) Every family whom I know that had a medical reason for abortion was heartbroken at the very thought of losing their child. Many times they opted to carry the child to term, and accept the naked fact that their baby would only live a few hours, but in those few hours or weeks, they could give love and care. I remember one baby boy with hydrocephalus whose parents gave him a brit milah (Jewish circumcision) just before he died, because they wanted him to have a name, Shalom.
    The Catholic Church was forthright in saying that “pro-choice” was a slippery slope that would lead to a general decline in respect for life at any stage. As time has passed, I see that the Church was right and I was wrong.
    One of the things that began to change my mind was the fact that men whose wives and girl friends had abortions have told me how much they came to regret that decision.
    This isn’t just a women’s matter.

  • Thomas R

    “Give me a third party, please. The GOP is no more interested in ending abortion (and losing votes) than the Dems are.” Todd

    I’m not that fond of the Republican Party right now, and I might agree it’s debatable that they’re committed to ending abortion, but here are some hopefully non-GOP potential problems with what you’re saying.

    First, on a federal level at least, the system tends to be “winner takes all.” American politics is largely designed to be binary then. So we rarely, or just never, have three stable parties. Instead one of the two-parties in the two-party system collapses or one splinters in two and the other collapses. In any event we end up, on a federal level anyway, with two parties. So for a third party to work it would need to become the second and one of the extant parties would need to be on the verge of collapse as say the Whigs were in the 1850s. Or a splintering would need to occur.

    Second the GOP may not overturn Roe v Wade, but they do seem at least willing to reduce government support for abortion and/or support restrictions on the edges. The Democratic Party certainly seems to be completely unwilling to support restrictions the Swedes or French would deem prudent. So maybe some Republicans “heart isn’t really in it” when it comes to being Pro-Life, I certainly grant that, but they’re very unlikely to do what Obama is doing now. I’m not sure even Giuliani would.

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  • vox borealis

    I was beaten to it, but it sooo bears repeating:

    fundamental constitutional right

    A right so fundamental that it was not included in the Constitution, nor in the Bill of Rights, nor in any subsequent amendment.

    My but our founding fathers persons were a tricky lot.

  • http://catholicsensibility.wordpress.com/ Todd

    “Todd, you are lost in your own world.”

    I’d prefer doing what I can with the lost, rather than a daily reinforcement among the found. I also don’t need to call you names. Really, Mark.

    There are times I get a sense that anti-abortion people really don’t want it to end either. So many people have gotten caught up in the whole codependent abortion industry–they can’t help but be tainted by the collective insanity of it all. I saw a lot of it among select social workers during the adoption process many years ago. You deal with addicted birth parents, the uncertainty of state government, the cronyism, the craziness–it’s hard to come out of it with your mind and spirit intact.

    “(W)hat did you do to end the murder of all my children?”

    Quite a bit, simply by not being an extremist. I know a few people are alive today because I choose diplomacy rather than ideology.

    So, after all this exchange, are you listening to yourself? You do realize you’re calling names and otherwise acting juvenile with another pro-life Catholic, don’t you? What’s with that?

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  • Geo

    Catholics in this country have the numbers and power to depose this Constitution shredding, life destroying fraud. Unfortunately, too many of them have drunk too deeply from the Keenan-Jenkins-NCR-Catholics for Obama Kool Aid for us to have much hope of any change. Thanks to these, more innocents will die–along with religious freedom.

  • Peggy R

    On the political angle, we need to concentrate on electing conservative pro-lifers from the bottom up. That is, we need state laws passed and signed that will challenge RvW. That is how we overturn RvW. Don’t look to the federal office holders to do that. Yes, getting judges is vital and ending funding for PP is important. But the key is to get state laws passed to filter up to the SCOTUS. Your state and local elections are important.

  • LisaB

    Abortion: It isn’t what the Republicans have failed to do, it’s what the pro-aborts with the help of willing Democrat voters have succeeded in doing.

    Ms. Scalia, great writing!

  • Brian English

    “To vote for a Republican for president, to agree with your anger, to think abortion will be solved by politicians, to write two letters, that progressives alone are to blame, etc..”

    Let’s unpack this statement.

    “To vote for a Republican for president”

    Look, either you get that abortion is the greatest evil of our time, or you don’t. I think Ron Paul’s foreign policy views are delusional and dangerous, while just about the only thing I like about Obama is that he has no hesitation in blowing up terrorists wherever and whenever they are found. However, if the election came down to Paul v. Obama, I would not hesitate for a second to vote for Paul. Obama’s views on abotion are so barbaric and his disregard for religious freedom is so dangerous that any concerns about Paul would have to be put aside.

    ” to agree with your anger”

    The message from Obama quoted above doesn’t get you angry? The 50 million lives destroyed doesn’t get you angry? What does get you angry?

    “to think abortion will be solved by politicians”

    Why is it that Progressive Catholics, who think the government can solve every other problem on the planet, suddenly become libertarians when it comes to abortion? Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton have to be overturned. The only way to do that is by getting a president and a Senate that will put Original Intent justices on the Supreme Court.

    “to write two letters”

    I don’t even know what this means.

    “that progressives alone are to blame, etc..”

    If not for Progressive Catholics like Ted Kennedy, Roe would have been overturned in 1992. If not for Progressive Catholics, Obama would not be president. Those are both facts. Maybe Progressive Catholics have to reevaluate what their priorities are.

  • Brian English

    “But the key is to get state laws passed to filter up to the SCOTUS. Your state and local elections are important.”

    But if Obama gets two or three more appointments to the SCOTUS, those pro-life laws that you are getting filtered up are going to get overturned. That is why this election is so important. If Obama wins and gets those appointments, you are going to see things like parental consent laws, waiting periods, and informed consent laws get rolled back.

  • Nostradamus

    Not to worry. This line of thinking kills itself.
    No children = no tomorrow
    Self limiting by design.
    Question is: who shall inherit tomorrow? (not the abortion crowd, that’s for sure)

  • Gerry

    Here’s a helpful hint.

    Do not feed the troll.

  • Mark

    Peggy R, yes we need to battle at all levels against abortion. The battle use to be at the state levels and there was a growing number of states which were placing strict barriers on the killing of babies. The federal court in Roe essentially took away states rights using a lie about what was in the Constitution. They did the same about religious freedom turning it on its head with separation. What the states do is often challenged in court immediately by the pro abortion democrats. So you simply cannot ignore the impact of the federal activist courts.

    That is why I emphasize that it is within Catholic and other Christians ability today to make a huge change by putting their full pro life views to into actual practice. If we drop the support of the abortion party by those who say they are pro life, then that party has to change its stance or lose power in large numbers. We have to unite our vote behind the best national pro life option available to us today and that is the Republican Party. If we work hard and give them the white house, 60 plus majority in the senate or pro life reupublicans, and a majority int he house, we can make a change which will be permanent in our country and end legal abortion on the federal level. The side benefit is we would also have these same judges to stop the attack on religious freedom and the expansion of big government which is killing this country. Then you battle at the state level would find waiting arms to embrace these laws rather than having them overturned.

  • Brian English

    “The leaders of the Catholic Church do not understand that freedom of religion does not include the “freedom” to impose their religious beliefs on others. ”

    But freedom of religion does include the right of the government to force religious groups to engage in conduct they find morally objectionable? What a bizarre interpretation of the Constitution.

    “Female employees of Catholic institutions, such as schools and hospitals, have just as much right to use contraception as anyone else. Their employer does NOT have the right to force them to follow their religious beliefs in the privacy of their own home.”

    She has the right to use all the contraceptives she wants in the privacy of her own home. She could probably even take her birth control pills at work as long as she is not obvious about it. What she does not have the right to do, or should not have the right to do, is force her employer to pay for it.

  • Mark

    Todd, not name calling. Simply asking for one lost to focus on reality. I note you did not address the poits made where you seem to be arguing with yourself.

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  • Greta

    Just return from my trip to the march for life. Always amazing to see such enthusasim with our young people and the growing number of young priests and Bishops as well as Religious so fired up on this issue. The major topic of discussion this year was on getting Obama out of office and we heard many young people who came to the march for the first time who voted for Obama last time and vow never again will they support him or his party. They had bought into the lie that big government solutions was the way to fix abortion and learned that the only real answer is to stop all support of the Democratic Party. What changed many was the debate about ObamaCare seeing the Demcrats stand up against Catholic Bishops even if they lost the fight on ObamaCare to protect abortion. The final straw for many that drove them to speak out was the blatant attack on religious freedom.

    One disturbing note was those who were openly and blatantly attacking the pro life events claiming they were part of the “occupy” crowd. I thought that movement was about financial issues with their 99% mantra. Now it is clear this is a group funded and inspired to be the attack arm of the Democratic Party. They were Despicable in how they tried to get into every event and shout down or trash those who were there to march for life. In the end, they made all of us even more aware of their close ties to Satan and his love of abortion and hatred of the Catholic Church and Her Teaching.

    This might be my last visit even if I beat the cancer. Age is making these type of trips ever more difficult and I am very comfortable turning it over to those wonderful young people now bursting at the seams in the pro life movement. I thank God for giving me the ability through His strength to go this last time.

  • doc

    Mark, you have a heck of a wife, a real champion for the cause. God Bless you both. I was walking and praying in Atlanta yesterday, where the killer tornados in Birmingham kept our headcount down this year. The cooler temperatures kept the dangerous stuff away and limited our exposure to cold, miserable rain.


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