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Why Did We Escape Christian Nationalism? EPISODE 160

In this episode of Evangelicalish , we get personal about our own journeys out of Christian Nationalism and the moments that cracked open our certainty. Well talk about: Why some people stay trapped in toxic systems while others break free The emotional, spiritual, and political cost of questioning How small acts of curiosity can unravel decades of indoctrination What it means to walk in Sacred Rebellion after faith deconstruction We know how disorienting it can be to realize the faith you inherited was more about power than love. Weve been there. And were here to remind you: Youre not alone. Youre not crazy. And thinking is not a sin. Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.

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Episode 1
January 6th Anniversary & Moderate Evangelicals
It's been one year since the insurrection attempt at The Capitol. We talk about where we were on Jan. 6th 2021 and play our individual TikTok videos we made on that day. We also discuss the aftermath in the evangelical church and how Jan. 6th was the catalyst for many of us to officially become EXvangelicals. But what about moderate evangelical pastors who have remained silent despite Qanon and other conspiracies flooding their churches? We dive into why remaining silent is problematic. Follow us on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Join Our Private Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1024639534974464 Please leave us a review wherever you listen to us and subscribe to our YouTube Channel where we record these episodes live: https://www.youtube.com/c/Evangelicalish/ Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 2
Ted Cruz Hypocrisy & LGBTQ Christians - Side A, Side B & Side X
In this episode, we discuss Ted Cruz headlines of the week. He had a moment of courage talking about January 6th but completely walked it back on Tucker Carlson's show. He was also in the news recently because of things his daughter said on TikTok. This leads us into a discussion on Christian parents and how they respond to their kids coming out as LGBTQ. We go into the different viewpoints on LGBTQ issues within evangelicalism: Side A, Side B and Side X. We also talk about the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" and how it's actually harmful and problematic. We're planning on coming to a city near you. Help us decide where by answering the poll in our FB group or sending us a DM or comment of a city you could attend :) Follow us on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Join our private Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1024639534974464 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 3
Ableism in the Church
In this episode, we talk with Elora Dodd (@Online1schoolroomhouse) who is an Autistic comedian and activist who fights to improve the lives of disabled people and combat religious abuse. She shares some of her own story of growing up in the church, going to Oral Roberts University and shares stories of other people with disabilities, how the church treated them and what needs to change. Find Elora on Instagram: @online1roomschoolhouse Elora's Linktree (please note we experienced some audio issues in this episode that could not be correct and we apologize for the inconvenience) Check out our new Merch ISH or join our ISH Community: www.evangelicalish.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish , @pastorpaul_tiktok , @pastorfromok , @aprilajoy Or email us: [email protected] Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 4
Rev. Derek Terry's Journey From AME to UCC + Super Bowl Reactions
Reverend Derek Terry is an artist, scholar and Pastor at St. Peter's United Church of Christ in Cincinnati. He talks about his journey from growing up in the African Methodist Episcopal Church to becoming an openly gay Pastor in the United Church of Christ denomination. Then we all discuss the Super Bowl Halftime Show, the outrage that followed from conservatives, and why the NFL still needs to fix the racism within their system. Then we each share one thing we weren't allowed to enjoy growing up that we love now. If you would like to help Derek repair his church's boiler, here is the GoFundMe page: https://www.gofundme.com/f/st-peters-building-birthday-boiler-fund Follow Derek on Twitter, IG, TikTok & Facebook, YouTube: @RevDerekTerry www.RevDerek.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Join our private Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1024639534974464 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 4
I Kissed Purity Culture Goodbye
Paul and April talk to Kristina Hart, a faith-informed humor writer, content creator, comedian, and popular online persona about the trauma of Purity Culture and the impact it has in the decades the follower. We discuss the ramifications it has had on both dating and married life. Kristina is the spirited voice formerly behind The DTR Blog and now the Thats Super Weird Podcast, Kristina is the proud daughter of Iranian immigrants and has an internationally and spiritually informed perspective that is fully attuned to the inner thoughts and struggles of her fellow Millennials. Follow Kristina @edgykristinahart Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish , @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul , Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 5
Roe v Wade Roots in Christian Nationalism
Rev. Rob Schenck joins April and Paul for a fascinating conversation that takes us behind the scenes of the movement that overturned Roe v Wade, showing the anti-abortion manipulation of Christians to the Evangelical Christian nationalism of today. Schenk, an Evangelical clergyman who has ministered to elected and appointed officials in Washington, D.C. and serves as president of a non-profit organization named for Dietrich Bonhoeffer, can be found in the new Documentary "God + Country." Schenck says that he was part of a group that paid Norma McCorvey (also known as Jane Roe from the landmark Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision) to lie that she had changed her mind and become against abortion. Schenck now speaks up to undo the work he used to do after seeing the harm it caused. Hear more from Rev. Rob Schenck on Patheos. Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & X: @evangelicalish , @aprilajoy @unconventionalpastorpaul , Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 6
War, End Times & The Biblical Canon
In this episode, we talk about Ukraine, the tragedies of war and the evangelical urge to make every world event about America and the end times. Then we are joined by Manuel Ramminger, who has a biblical studies degree and has run several Bible schools. He will talk to us about the formation of the Biblical canon- how the Bible was formed and who made the decisions on which books to include and exclude. And knowing the Bible is not the literal Word of God, how should we read it? Manuel now runs Ethical Trading Company where they fight human trafficking, extreme poverty & exploitation through job creation: www.ethicaltradeco.com Stay for the end to hear a special announcement from April & her spouse Beecher. Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 7
Narcissism in the Church
Paul & April are joined by Matthew Phifer, MSEd, who is a therapist, speaker, trainer, and toxic relationship, narcissism, trauma and emotional abuse expert. Matthew is here to talk all about narcissism in the church: the different types of narcissism, the cover churches give for them and signs to look for. He also tells us about the dangers of high-control groups like cults and how many churches aren't any different when they use FOG - fear, obligation and guilt tactics. Follow Matt on Tiktok, Youtube, IG @mattphifercoaching Buy his book "Oh Sh!t, I Think They're a F^cking Narcissist" on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099X56CDH?tag=mattphifercoa-20 Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy or email us: [email protected] Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 8
Ukraine, John MacArthur & Church Cover-Ups
In this episode, we talk about the tragedy of the war in Ukraine but acknowledge the problematic way evangelicals & media have treated Ukrainian refugees differently compared to other countries. Recently, investigative journalist Julie Roys, dropped a story of a decades- long child-abuse cover-up in John MacArthur's church. The church shamed the wife/mother of the family and stood by the abuser, even after he was convicted and is still serving time in prison. Read the story here: https://julieroys.com/macarthur-shamed-excommunicated-mother-take-back-child-abuser/ We talk about the larger issue of church cover-ups for abuse, the misogyny of it all and what to do about it. Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy or email us: [email protected] Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 9
A Chat with Dara Starr Tucker
Singer/Songwriter and social commentator Dara Starr Tucker joins April, Jeremy and Paul in this episode. They discuss a wide range of topics, from the school shooting in Nashville to the white evangelical response to President Obama being elected and wild charismatic services we used to attend. Follow Dara on YouTube: @DaraStarrTucker TikTok: @darastarrtucker Instagram: @daratuckerb Dara is a content creator who shares captivating commentaries on race and social issues, music and the arts, education and political action. Her work has been featured in campaigns for HBO, FX, and Ebony/Jet Magazine. She has amassed a social media following of over 1 million people across all platforms. Check out our new Merch ISH or join our ISH Community: www.evangelicalish.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish , @pastorpaul_tiktok , @pastorfromok , @aprilajoy Or email us: [email protected] Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 13
Uvalde, SBC Report, Rage Prayer
April and Jeremy are joined by guest Reverend Elizabeth Riley to talk about the world: the Uvalde Elementary school shooting, the report that was released on the Southern Baptist Convention sexual abuse and cover-ups and the Indiana Pastor pulpit confession to adultery that was actually CSA. Rev Riley then leads us all in a rage prayer as we sit in the heaviness of the moment. Then we talk about how we move forward and how we make change. At the end, April reads a real thread by a Twitter account called "Alpha Masculinity" who is against women riding horses and bicycles. And we all read a hate comment of the week. Follow Reverend Elizabeth on TikTok, IG @therevriley Follow the Evangelicalish team on TikTok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish , @pastorpaul_tiktok , @pastorfromok , @aprilajoy or email us: [email protected] Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 13
Discussing New Research on Religious Trauma
So often we hear Christians say of deconstructionists "oh they are hurt." Well, turns out scientific research says this is likely true, but ought to be treated as a negative attribute of the American Christian Church, not as an excuse to victim-blame but it. Guest Darren Slade's organization, the Global Center for Religious Research, defines religious trauma as resulting "from an event, series of events, relationships, or circumstances within or connected to religious beliefs, practices, or structures that is experienced by an individual as overwhelming or disruptive and has lasting adverse effects on a persons physical, mental, social, emotional, or spiritual well-being." For more information or to access resources about religious trauma, check out the Global Center for Religious Research website at https://www.gcrr.org/ Darren Slade is a theological historian, systematician, and critical rationalist philosopher from Denver, Colorado. Specializing in historic-speculative theology, theoretical metaphysics, and the socio-political development of religious belief systems, Darren's academic publications include topics ranging from the philosophy of religion, ancient Near Eastern and Second-Temple hermeneutical practices, church and Islamic history, and the psychology of religion. Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 14
The History of Christian Zionism
April and Paul talk with historian Daniel Hummel on the history of Christian Zionism: what it is, how it started, who espouses it and the harm it causes today. Daniel G. Hummel is the Director of The Lumen Center in Madison, WI and a research fellow in the History Department at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He received his PhD in American history from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and has been a research fellow at the Institute for Research in the Humanities and the Harvard Kennedy School at Harvard University. He is the author of two books: Covenant Brothers: Evangelicals, Jews, and U.S.-Israel Relations and The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle Over the End Times Shaped a Nation. Keep up with Daniel's work: www.danielghummel.com Get his latest book titled The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle Over the End Times Shaped a Nation. Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 15
Taking Off the Tinfoil Hat: Conspiracies in Christianity
Cynane Shay of Taking off the Tinfoil Hat joins April and Paul for a chat about conspiracy theories within evangelicalism. Cynane is a nuclear engineer living in South Carolina. Her childhood in White Christian Nationalism (Florida-style) normalized conspiracy theories like Obama Birtherism and the Biblical apocalypse; but 2020, with COVID and Qanon, finally made her realize something was deeply wrong. Now Cynane is writing a book, Taking Off the Tinfoil Hat: How Lizard People and Space Lasers Dismantled my Christian Worldview, to process the deconstruction of her fundamentalist evangelicalism and her propagandistic patriotism. Losing loved ones to the pandemic was a tragedy, but losing loved ones to the rabbit hole was its own tragedy and Cynane needed to understand the why. So from Flat Earth to the IBLP cult to Jewish space lasers, she pulled the thread, cracked her faith, and found the inseparable link between cults, conspiracy theories, and American White Christian Nationalism. TakingOffTheTinfoilHat.com Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 18
The Bible's Data vs Pride Month Dogma with Dr. Dan McClellan
Dr. Dan McClellan is back! He joins Paul and April to talk about what the Bible actually says when it comes to all of the "clobber" passages certain Christians like to use against LGBTQ people. Dan McClellan is a public scholar of the Bible and religion. He received his PhD in theology and religion from the University of Exeter. In 2022 he published YHWH's Divine Images: A Cognitive Approach as an open-access book. He worked for a decade as a scripture translation supervisor for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and in 2023 transitioned to full-time public scholarship. He goes by @maklelan across several social media platforms, as well as on the Data Over Dogma Podcast, where he seeks to increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion and combat the spread of misinformation about the same. Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 22
Matt Chandler, Debt Forgiveness and The Billy Graham Rule Mad-lib
Village Church Pastor Matt Chandler announced he is stepping away from the pulpit after sliding into the DMs of a woman who is not his wife but claim there was nothing romantic or sexual about it. Is there more to the story or was his sin having a female friend? We discuss and go into the depth on the Billy Graham Rule (that no man should ever be alone with a woman who is not his wife). Then we talk about Biden's 10k student loan forgiveness and the response from conservative christians. And we end with a super fun Billy Graham Rule inspired Mad Lib. Check out our new website and join our ISH Community: www.evangelicalish.com Join us LIVE in Nashville on Sat. Oct 1, 2022. Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish , @pastorpaul_tiktok , @pastorfromok , @aprilajoy Or email us: [email protected] Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 24
Are American Evangelicals Listening?
Countless exvangelicals have been sounding the alarms about the American Evangelical church but nothing seems to be changing. To discuss what can be done, Jeremy & April are joined by Antwuan Malone who is the Executive Director of Elevate a young adult ministry in Texas and host of Colored Commentary podcast. He is working within evangelical spaces to try to get churches to listen to the stories of those hurt by the church. The three of them discuss how that's been going and is it worth trying to change from within. The show ends with a fun Q&A. Follow Antwaun on social media @antwaunmalone https://antwuanmalone.com/ Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, Twitter @Evangelicalish Join our private Facebook group for community throughout the week: Evangelicalish Podcast Group Follow us on TikTok: @evangelicalish @pastorpaul_tiktok @pastorfromok @aprilajoy Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 24
Are Witches Really Spooky?
If you grew up evangelical like we did, you were probably taught that anything "witchy" was evil and satanic. So, let's find out the truth about modern witchcraft. Hana O'Neill, aka The Suburban Witch, joins April and Paul to talk about all about it. Hana is a Professional Tarot reader, Natal Astrologer and Witch located in Australia. Her goal is to make witchcraft and alternative spirituality easy, fun and accessible to all. She hosts the podcast Witch Talks interviewing key Witches in the community, has a thriving YouTube channel with content from Spellcrafting, Tarot tutorials, Witchcraft basics and even details her own journey from Pentecostal Christian to proud Witch. Find out more about Hana's work at www.suburbanwitchery.com Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish , @pastorpaul_tiktok , @pastorfromok , @aprilajoy Or email us: [email protected] Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 25
SBC Abuse Cover-Up and Evangelical Gullibility
Paul, April and Jeremy discuss the Southern Baptist Convention's decision to have a closed investigation of the more than 700 sexual abuse cases within SBC churches. The messengers wanted an open investigation and full transparency of all findings, and the higher ups at the SBC voted against the will of the people to protect themselves. So, they discuss the implications of this and how widespread abuse is in churches beyond the SBC. They also talk about the gullibility of evangelicals and how 19 of the top 20 Christian Facebook pages were controlled by foreign troll farms. https://www.relevantmagazine.com/culture/tech-gaming/almost-all-of-facebooks-top-christian-pages-are-run-by-foreign-troll-farms/ The show ends with some improv sermon illustrations. Follow us on TikTok, Facebook, IG, Twitter: @evangelicalish @pastorpaul_tiktok @pastorfromok @aprilajoy Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 26
Dr. David P. Gushee on Saving Democracy From Its Christian Enemy
American democracy is in danger at the hands of authoritarian-seeking Christians according to Christian ethicist Dr. David P. Gushee. His newest book "Defending Democracy from Its Christian Enemies" calls us to sane, ethical, and compassionate politics in a world where many Christians are instigating discord and vying for power. Join April, Jeremy and Paul as they discuss with Gushee his view on the dangers of our current form of political engagement and with insight into what Christian interaction with democracy is truly meant to be. Click Here For Dr. David P. Gushee's Website Get His Latest Book Here: "Defending Democracy From Its Christian Enemies" Stay connected or support us by visiting our website: evangelicalish.com Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish , @pastorpaul_tiktok , @pastorfromok , @aprilajoy Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 28
Immigration & the Border; Decolonizing Faith w/ Pastor Alex Vaiz
Paul, Jeremy and April are joined with special guest Pastor Alex Vaiz to talk about his experience as a Pastor of Color within White evangelical spaces and the importance of decolonizing your faith. He also talks about his experience going down to the southern border and what Christianity should look like when it comes to immigration. Links to organizations Alex mentioned: Al Otro Lado (AOL) (CA border)- https://alotrolado.org We Care- https://somoswecare.com Matthew25 (CA border)- https://matthew25socal.org Races (Texas border)- https://raicestexas.org Global Immersion- https://globalimmerse.org NM Cafe (New Mexico border)- https://organizenm.org Follow us on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @alexvaiz, @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktik, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 30
JFK Jr, Qanon: Reclaiming Faith from the Crazy
Our last episode of the season! We will return live on Youtube Dec 1st at 9pm Est with the podcast dropping shortly thereafter. In this episode, we discuss the crazy Qanon conspiracy that led hundreds of people to go to Dallas to await the return of the late JFK Jr, Let's Go Brandon and other crazy stuff in conservative evangelical world. We then talk about where we are in our own faith journey, prayer, church and moving forward. How do we reclaim faith from the toxicity of the evangelical spaces we left? We each play our first viral TikToks that brought us all together and reminisce over the last year. Follow us on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1024639534974464 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 32
Deconstruction Isn't Sexy- Featuring J. Crum
In this episode, April and Jeremy are joined by award-winning rapper and producer J. Crum. We listen to some of his new single "Clarity" and talk about what inspired the song and his deconstruction. His story from growing up in a Oneness Pentecostal Church to spending a few years in Master's Commission to where he is now is a fascinating and sometimes enraging journey. Then they discuss Pastor Matt Chandler and how he called deconstruction just a "sexy thing to do." The story J. Crum tells in this episode shows that deconstruction is anything but sexy. Watch Clarity Official Music Video Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00LHvLJ3HMM Follow @jcrummusic Follow us on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1024639534974464 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 34
The Holidays & Dealing With Ultra Conservative Family
Christian Nationalism seems to be getting worse. This week, it gave a stage to Kyle Rittenhouse who was met with elaborate praise and gave a scandal-ridden ex-president (Trump) a Sunday morning pulpit. It is obviously problematic for many of us, but what do we do with family members who support and celebrate these things? To help us discuss, we are joined by Promise Enlow whose family is deeply involved with Qanon and considered leaders among several prophets who believe Trump is God's chosen. She is also a former worship leader at Bethel turned exvangelical atheist. For fun, we end the show discussing our favorite Christmas movies. We'll be back in January 2022. Happy Holidays everyone. Follow Promise on TikTok and IG @eve_wasframed Follow us on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 130
Expelled for Affirming Love; But Not Guiilty: Thomas Jay Oord
Expelled for Affirming Love; But Not Guiilty: Thomas Jay Oord Join Paul and Ashley as they find out why Pastor, theologian and author Thomas J. Oord was will to withstand an official heresy trial by the Church of the Nazarene. The charge: teaching against church doctrine and misconduct for calling the church to become LGBTQ+ inclusive. And why the guilty verdict that accused Oord of leading serious offenses of which the denomination said "...Only eternity will show how many souls have been led astray through his false teaching" shook his life, took his ordination, but didn't change his mind. Find Dr Oord here: Website: https://thomasjayoord.com/ Center for Open and Relational Theology: https://c4ort.com/ Dr. Oord's books on Amazon, Including "God After Deconstruction:" https://www.amazon.com/stores/Thomas-Jay-Oord/author/B001H6OGWE?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2&qid=1726177418&sr=8-2&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 135
Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding True Faith
April Ajoy wouldnt have called herself a Christian Nationalist when she performed her original song America Say Jesus on the Jim Bakker show, or when she participated in Jesus Marches across America, or when she posted cringe-worthy videos on YouTube to campaign for Mitt Romney. April just considered herself a good Christian: faithful, Republican, and determined to make America a Christian nation once again. But as her view of the world widened, Ajoy began to see cracks in her steadfast beliefs and recognized the ways her conservative politics and religion were intertwined in her mind. Join Paul and Ashley as they talk with April Ajoy, content creator and podcast host, exploring how aspects of evangelical culture such as product boycotts, Satanic panic, and end-times theology have all been exploited to advance the Christian Nationalist narrative. April's Book - Star Spangled Jesus Find Paul & Ashley and Evangelicalish Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 140
Post Election Day: What Do We Do Now? James Fallows, Writer & Political Expert
James Fallows once served as chief White House speechwriter for Jimmy Carter and now writes 'Breaking the News' on Substack and has a new article about California's promising future in WIRED magazine. Fallows is a longtime book and magazine writer, whose most recent of 12 books, "Our Towns," co-authored with his wife Deborah Fallows, was a national best-seller and the basis of a 2021 HBO documentary. His perspective, the day after the 2024 election will be riveting conversation with Ashley and Paul and will be cathartic for us all! Nonpaywalled version of Jim's Wired piece: https://www.wired.com/story/californi... Today's Substack (non paywalled) https://fallows.substack.com/p/electi... Nick Lemann in the New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20... #Evangelicalish #ReligiousRightReligiouslyWrong #postevangelical #UnconventionalPastor #GodIsNOTmadAtYou #MindRenewal #Rethink @UnconventionalPastorPaul #WellBeing #Deconstruction #reconstruction Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 141
Reviving the Global Heart, After a Heartbreaking Election: With Joe Weston
Joe Weston is an international facilitator, author, lecturer, consultant, coach, professor, and-above all else-an advocate for lasting peace. He speaks to a revival of the "global heart." How do we revive the global heart when so many are broken hearted after America's election day this past week. Paul and Ashley discuss this with Weston who has a career spanning 30+ years in the fields of conflict prevention, leadership, stress management, and communication. He is a highly sought-after thought leader and trainer for individuals, as well as corporations, government agencies and nonprofits around the world. The Weston Network: https://joeweston.com/weston-network/ Respectful Confrontation: https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Resp... Fierce Civility Project: https://fiercecivility.org/ #Evangelicalish #ReligiousRightReligiouslyWrong #postevangelical #UnconventionalPastor #GodIsNOTmadAtYou #MindRenewal #Rethink @UnconventionalPastorPaul #WellBeing #Deconstruction #reconstruction Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 142
UGH! Home for Christmas? Reclaiming the Holidays in a Divided World; w/ Therapist Naomi Wiens
The holidays have always been difficult for many. Are they even more difficult in this post-COVID, crazy political world? Naomi Wiens is an LMFT who works with adolescents, adults, and couples with a relational and dynamic approach. As a professional working with religious trauma and spiritual reclamation, embodiment, identity formation, dream & shadow work, grief/loss, cultural and generational trauma, and working with artists and creativity, can she help us conquer the holiday blues? Join Paul and Ashley for this fascinating and important discussion. #Evangelicalish #ReligiousRightReligiouslyWrong #postevangelical #UnconventionalPastor #GodIsNOTmadAtYou #MindRenewal #Rethink @UnconventionalPastorPaul #WellBeing #Deconstruction #reconstruction Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
Episode 145
Manipulated by the Trans in Sports Issue: An Unconventional Conversation w/ Pastor Paul
Why are dozens of states banning trans athletes when there are at most 10 trans women participation in college athletics out of some 510,000 athletes? Because, as so many times in history, political and religious leaders want the demonization of a people group the gather to themselves political power. Pastor Paul shares why the issue of trans women in sports is NOT an issue at all, but rather is simply a manipulation tool of the extreme right, generating hatred amongst people and deep fear in the trans community. We can do better. Listen in and be ready to think, to be introspective and to grow. #Evangelicalish #ReligiousRightReligiouslyWrong #postevangelical #UnconventionalPastor #GodIsNOTmadAtYou #MindRenewal #Rethink @UnconventionalPastorPaul #WellBeing #Deconstruction #reconstruction Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish! Connect with Us: Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred Rebellion Check out Pauls international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective Follow Evangelicalish: Instagram | TikTok | YouTube Paul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site Subscribe & Review: Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Buy Pauls Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable More from Paul & Ashley: ISH/Pastor-Paul Website Evangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PT Thank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community.
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