Six Things Christians and Muslims disagree about over Jesus

mosqueandchurchYesterday I wrote about Eleven things Muslims and Christians agree about over Jesus. Today I share the areas we disagree. This is with the goal of helping us to understand each other better.

  1. Whether or not Jesus should be worshiped (Surah 5:116 , Surah 4:171 vs John 20:28 and Matthew 28:16)
  2. Whether Jesus should be described as the “Son of God” (Surah 19:88-92 vs the many biblical references to Jesus as “son of God”) Note that unless this concept is carefully explained to a Muslim this is tantamount to suggesting God had sex with Mary.
  3. Whether or not Jesus actually died
    • Muslims do not believe that Jesus died on the cross as the Bible says in Matthew 27, Mark 15, Luke 23, and John 19 . Muslims differ among themselves as to exactly how Jesus escaped from death. A key Qur’an verse is as follows:
      • “That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise” (Surah 4:157-158)
    • Some Muslims believe that someone was made to appear like Jesus and was crucified in his place. See for example the following quote:
      • Ibn Abbas said, “Just before Allah raised Jesus to the Heavens, Jesus went to his disciples, who were twelve inside the house. When he arrived, his hair was dripping with water (as if he had just had a bath) and he said, ‘There are those among you who will disbelieve in me twelve times after you had believed in me.’ He then asked, ‘Who among you will volunteer for his appearance to be transformed into mine, and be killed in my place. Whoever volunteers for that, he will be with me (in Paradise).’ One of the youngest ones among them volunteered, but Jesus asked him to sit down. Jesus asked again for a volunteer, and the same young man volunteered and Jesus asked him to sit down again. Then the young man volunteered a third time and Jesus said, ‘You will be that man,’ and the resemblance of Jesus was cast over that man while Jesus ascended to Heaven from a hole in the roof of the house. When the Jews came looking for Jesus, they found that young man and crucified him.”
        – Al-Nasa’i, Al-Kubra, 6:489
      • These muslims would usually believe that Jesus was taken to heaven and will one day return.
    • Other Muslims believe that Jesus did not actually die on the cross but merely “swooned“. 
      • Links to articles that explain this position are as follows: 1, 2 and 3.
      • Examples of the Christian view that Jesus must have died on the cross include: 1, 2
    • Some verses in the Qur’an support the idea that at some point Jesus did die.
      • So for example, fascinatingly Surah 19:33 states that Jesus said to his mother:“So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)” which taken out of context could even be seen as a support for the Christian view of Jesus’ death and resurrection.
  4. Whether Jesus was substituted for us on the cross or another man was substituted for him.
    • Many Muslims would question the Christian concept that Jesus could justly die as a substitute for us so that we did not have to die. Many of them do, however, believe that God provided a substitute for Jesus so that he should not have to die.
  5. Who Jesus promised as his replacement
    • In John 14 Jesus promises “another comforter.” Some Muslims believe this is a prophecy that refers to Mohammed, Christians believe it refers to the Holy Spirit.
  6. How can people be saved?
      • Muslims and Christians alike believe in moral instruction and have a set of rules to follow. Our lifestyles will often differ very little, and we alike would be criticized by many today. We have much more in common than either group would have in common with the “permissive” society in which we live.
      • However, Muslims believe that it is possible largely to keep God rules, “they are not burdensome,” although asking for forgiveness and submitting to Allah is needed when people do sin.
      • Christians on the other hand believe that it is impossible to keep the commands of the Bible, and especially those of Jesus in the sermon on the mount without Christ’s help. They believe that Jesus fulfilled the law on our behalf, and that faith alone saves. It must of course be stressed, however, that Christians do believe that although faith alone saves, the faith that saves is never alone and will always be accompanied by what the Bible calls “fruit in keeping with repentance.”

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  • Kayvee

    Hi Adrian

    I am a Muslim. I found this article very useful. It is refreshing to see anyone who is aware and knowledgable about others and their beliefs. It helps with us understanding each other better.

    Thank you for posting this.

    • http://adrianwarnock.com/ Adrian Warnock

      Thank you very much. Did you see the sister post as well about what we AGREE about Jesus over? Is there anything I could have said better from a Muslim perspective?

      • Kayvee

        You are welcome. Yes, I did see the sister article as well which mentioned the commonalities in belief about Jesus (peace be upon him).

        Another difference I can think of is that is in regards to the prohibition of showing any imagery of Jesus or The Virgin Mary, and including that of God, the angels and all other Prophets and Messengers.

        In Islam, it is not allowed to show any images depicting Jesus.

        While in Christianity, it has become accepted to have Jesus shown in the form of artwork,, video, picture or statue. I don’t know what The Bible says about this, but I am just saying that it has been accepted as the norm by Christians themselves.

        It hurts me when I see Jesus (peace be upon him) being mocked on American television in shows like the simpsons, family guy, saturday night live and so many other shows. It has become so prevalent that the public has become numb to the fact that

        It also makes me said that Muslims don’t speak out when Jesus or Moses (or any other Prophet) is mocked on American television the way they do when Mohammed (peace be upon him) is mocked.

        Islam teaches us that a Muslim must accept and love all Prophets and Messengers of God. Otherwise that person would not be considered a Muslim.

        Is it possible that allowing God or Prophets to be shown in pictures this way is what has led to them being mocked and not seen as sacred.

        If we see depictions of Jesus being mocked everyday in cartoons, tv shows and movies, the respect that we have for such important poople will begin to fade.

        I urge all my Christian friends to stand up against this attack and mockery of Jesus and The Virgin Mary in American media.

        How can children (or adults) hold sacred someone who they grow up seeing being mocked everyday on TV.

        Secondly, I should mention that in regards to the “Jesus Swooning” theory, the links all point to the “Ahmadiyya” sect of Islam.

        The Ahmadiyya sect of Islam is founded by Mirza Ghluam Ahmad, who claimed to be the Messiah and the 2nd coming of Jesus.

        Their beliefs and teachings fall outside of mainstream Islam. They believe that Jesus settled in Kashmir India and died there. They believe that Jesus is buried there

        Based on that, I would say the theory that Jesus “swooned” has no basis in mainstream Islam.

        You can read more about the Ahmadiyyas here:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya

        • pculbert

          I am not sure why there is even an attempt to reconcile Islam with Christianity. Islam is false. When the apostle Peter tried to stop Jesus from being killed, Jesus called him ‘satan’ because he was trying to prevent the will of God. Muslims view the idea of Jesus being killed for the sins of others as blasphemy, when in fact their view is blasphemous! Until Muslims realise who Jesus really is and ask for forgiveness from Him, they remain under condemnation.

          • http://adrianwarnock.com/ Adrian Warnock

            I am not trying to reconcile the two religions. Just to help us understand what each other believe. As this article demonstrates Muslims and Christians disagree about Jesus very profoundly. But there is no harm in us understanding what it is that we each believe.

          • pculbert

            Well I would just ask what exactly is the ultimate goal of ‘understanding’ each others belief? Just to understand for the sake of it? When Jesus warned us to beware of so-called ‘prophets’ that would come after him who teach a different truth from what he had taught, it is clear that Islam is exactly one of the religions he was talking about. I find it interesting that Mohammed initially thought it was a demon talking to him when he allegedly heard God’s voice. He only changed his mind when his wife assured him it was God. Says it all really.

          • http://adrianwarnock.com/ Adrian Warnock

            Well there is a temporary goal, which is for some level of peace and understanding between us so we can live in the same world without killing each other. Then of course there is an eternal goal which is that as a Christian we should obviously want to share the gospel with them in ways that they will understand, and in such a way that it is only the gospel itself that is offensive and not the way we describe it, because, we should desire that the come to know Jesus. Of course, one assumes that they too will want us to become Muslims.

          • hosam

            Well said and god bliss you, thats true peace

          • hosam

            WHR did you come up with that??, according to Islam the only prophet spoke to god was moses, the story you mentioned is prophet speaking to an angel not god( get your facts right please), your extremist and we Muslim have extremist people like you in Muslim world , Mr. Warnock doing great job to help people to coummnicate( no one forcing you to believe something you don’t wanna believe coz its not beliving if it is forced )

          • pculbert

            Either way, the demonic was involved from the very start of this false religion, so its not one I would choose to follow. As Jesus said, Satan is the father of lies, and this religion is full of lies about God and his revelation to mankind. And if you think im an ‘extremist’ then clearly you think the same of Jesus!

          • hosam

            OK u need to relax and no need to get angry, I dnt understand why u even upset, see how Adrian is good christian and not hurting others by his words, I believe Jesus wouldn’t do that too, watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUxgCxuTOEU&app=desktop

          • pculbert

            Oh dear, you clearly do not understand Jesus at all if you think Jesus’ words did not ‘hurt’ others. I would advise you actually read Jesus’ words in the Gospels before you make a judgement on what He would say or do. Jesus only ever spoke the truth: about us, God and Himself. You need to come to Jesus and accept He died on the cross to deal with your sins and offer you forgiveness. There is no other way to be reconciled to God. If you are genuinely interested in the truth and reality, could I suggest you read firstly the Gospels in the New Testament, and such books as John Stott’s ‘Basic Christianity’, Michael Green’s ‘The Day Death Died’, and Lee Strobel’s ‘The Case for Christ’.

          • Amal Thaon

            Aren’t really having trouble believing in what these gods — Allah, God, and Yaweh believe in? It would be a great deal easier to believe in these gods if they themselves didn’t believe in the texts they supposedly dictated to manly prophets. Do these gods really believe in flying and falling angels? in burning bushes and world-wide floods, in demons and Satan? in, of all things, sacred cities and their sewers? Their religious ideas are so illogical and inhumane that they make believing in them borderline psychotic. Everything they profess to believe in is artificial (and superficial). Souls? Demons? Spirits? Miracles? Prayer? Ritual? If a man came around telling us to kill all the Whosits and smash all the whatsits, we’d incarcerate him, bring him to trial, and pack him off to an insane asylum! All 3 of them are complicitous in murder! We wouldn’t serve them in restaurants or taverns! If any of us were registry employees, wewould we grant Moses, Jesus, or Mohammed a driver’s license? And if they’d forged one by imprimatur, would you serve any of these guys a drink before he drives home? Would you let them play a clown at your child’s birthday party? Would you let any of them advise him on your stock portfolio? Would you hire him as a science teacher your kids? Hell, I wouldn’t show any one of these guys to a voting booth! They aren’t citizens, they’re monarchists! They’re not to be trusted! I don’t care if they died and came back from the dead; we only have their word when they weren’t! What are they? Who are these guys? the living dead?

            The best way to deal with ghosts, spirits, and voices in your head is to ignore them; you’re on the verge of having a nervous breakdown. Get a hold of reality and start living in present. These dead guys are trying to lead you into the delusion of self-righteousness, a delusion which is, in and of itself, insanity — and not one can save any of us from it. Believing in what one wants, rather than what is, is called self-delusion. It is the world of pretend; and when it’s dressed up in holy costume it’s called pretentiousness — like those statues changing outfits on the walls of Catholic churches. It’s playing house.

            Those pretending to have died and been resurrected with truth are called con men; and those pretending that others died and came back to inform them of the truth are the con men who created them. All we have to work with is our biological bodies — including our brains. We should not waste our short lives playing house, playing puppets, or pretending that anything is immutable when we know imperfectly well that change is the only constant we can count on. Until then, prophets are charlatans; at least scientists have a modesty which religionists can’t even fake. Anyone who is certain of something to espouse it is delusional — and the delusional, insane as they are, are a danger to all.

          • Jimmy

            Amal thaon, we are all born into sin, but you are a very ignorant individual you need to look around you as nature itself proves there is a creator, only a fool believe there is no God, God made a world for us which was perfect until Satan told a the first lie which lead to the world that it is today we have the oldest religious book given to mankind containing the truth THE HOLY BIBLE but Satan has blinded people to the TRUTH of Gods word one the most successful way he does this is through religion, there can only be one truth every other is false think of this ” if you wanted to hide a tree where is the best place to hide it? in a forest of course” there are many religion which profess to be serving God, but as Jesus says they prove false by the works they perform. I advise all who do lack faith or those who are put off by religion to with an open heart examine the only true word of God the HOLY BIBLE

          • Richard Dey

            But you, sir, are not even a monotheist. You believe in (the Jewish) God, you believe in satan, and, I doubt not, in Leprechauns, I do not.

            You accuse me of being “born into sin”. Speak for yourself. The original Greek (of the “New” Testament) defines (fairly clearly) “sin” as “disobedient”. One cannot be born disobedient, unless they are disobedient during birth. Perhaps you remember yours, but I do not remember mine. Prebirth is about as sentient as postmortem; it is a blank. The story, per supra, is just a sales gimmick for guilt. God does not forgive you; you forgive yourself. God did not invent the Jews (you, presumably, are not chosen at all); the Jews invented their god — for the express purpose of inspiring greed, envy, and covetousness — for the biblically expressed purpose of a land grab, taking Canaan from the Canaanites for themselves. They were even given the right to rape the daughters of Canaan, then kill the mothers. I don’t want any part of your gods, your licenses to kill and rape, your presumptions and pretensions, or your self-righteousness. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (the Abramic beliefs) are not religions; they are diseases. I hold with the Greeks: many men pretend to be gods; they ought to be tested. To know as much as you assume to know about your god, you must be one. Shall I give you a test?

          • Amal Thaon

            There are no more gods than goddesses, and about the same number of goddesses as there satans (;-). May the leprechauns save us, said Mrs Davis! Now she was onto something!

          • Richard Dey

            You are a dideist; you believe in God and Satan. You aren’t even a monotheist, Jimmy. If you simply believed in one god, we might have something in common; but I have no truck with people who believe in Satan; they are too interested in evil.

          • hosam

            His wife didn’t assure him, she calm him down and took him to christian cousins of her who had knowledge of religions, read this link so you learn more http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waraka_ibn_Nawfal

          • Muhammad

            Prophet Muhammed wife didn’t say anything. Angel Gabriel brought down the msg and prophet muhammed (pbuh) didn’t God voice. It was angel brought the msg same as all other prophet except Moses. Moses he used to directly talk to God.

          • Realist1234

            And the Apostle Paul told us 600 years before Muhammed that even if an ‘angel’ preached a different gospel than what Christians believed, we should not listen. You need to come and see the real Jesus, not what Islam has taught you about Him.

        • derrick

          I see all the red flags with your statement “stand up against this attack and mockery”. To coexist on this planet; we must accept all beliefs, ideas and forms of expression. Have your own faith and know its your relationship with god that matters. Let all others have there own. What we must not tolerate is violence against humanity. Teach your children to love and forgive. Thats it!! We can’t force our beliefs on others. Muslims and Christians are acting like 5 year olds debating word differences. We all agree in love and kindness; lets focus on that as a whole. The leaders of this world is the real problem, humanity should join together in peace.

      • omega pal

        Thank for you effort to do what you have done here.But I have found a verse in quran you wanted to use and justified that Jesus is died ,is far being interpreted as you have done or understood.This verse Surah 19:33 is talking about death of Jesus after coming back ( Muslims too believe that Jesus will come back) not the one Christians are talking about. For Muslim is raised up into heaven. God bless us all and shows us the right path.

  • Kayvee

    I would like to make one more observation. I have spoken to many Christians who have left their faith and become atheist.

    They see Jesus as some mythical person who didn’t exist. After I began asking them questions, I believe I have found the reason for this.

    The reason that so many of the Christians I spoke had become atheists was this:

    Growing up they were led to believe that Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy etc were all real.

    When they grew up, they of course realized that they had been misled.

    Somewhere along the line, they began to think that even Jesus was not real. That even God was not real. After all, the people who told them about Jesus and God, were the same people who had LIED to them about santa clause, easter bunny, tooth fairy etc.

    “The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist.”

    ― Charles Baudelaire

    • kevin

      when i was a child i played with toys. people are like seeds ,some grow ,some dont, simple.

    • Leah Eld

      I am a Christian who now is not religious, and I gave up Christianity not at all for the reason you stated. The reason I rejected Christianity and religious claims is simply that they do not meet their burden of proof and do not overcome internal inconsistencies.

  • Abdul269

    First one is right but second one Jesus(PBUH) went to India? Seriously? This is not a Muslim perspective, but it is related to Ahmedi community, which are not Muslims as they don’t believe in the finality of the Holy Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). Moreover, they believe in the Mirza Qadyani and accept him as a prophet, which came when Britishers were ruling India.

    • Naila

      And God has given YOU the right to declare people Muslim and Non Muslim? We believe The Holy Prophet (PBUH) was the last “Law Giver Prophet” meaning after Him, the religion of Islam is perfect. However, please take the time to look at the work of Ahmadi Muslims, comparatively and see that we are living the true Muslim life. The rest of the Ummah is lost without a Khalifa, but we are not. Visit alislam.org

      • Abdul269

        God has certainly NOT given me the right, but there are terms and conditions in every religion that you have to follow to become a follower of that religion.For example, you have to believe in God, then the prophets, angles, holy books, judgement day etc. Similarly, when we talk about Islam, there are some MUST terms & conditions, that you have to follow, which also include believing in finality of the last Prophet Mohammad(P.B.UH). All major sects in Islam, including Shias, Sunnis, Wahabis agree to this definition of Islam, which includes the stipulation that there will no Prophet in any form after the Prophet Mohammad(P.B.U.H). This is also clearly mentioned in Quran in Surah Anfal. Whereas you guyz believe in the Mirza Qadyani and claim that he is a Prophet, which according to my religion i.e, Islam is not right. So, please dnt confuse people and facts. No Muslim country has declared Ahmedis as Muslims as they clearly violate the most important condition and they are not allowed to visit the holy places which include Mecca and Media. In the end, You have your religion and i have my religion. its your right to choose the right path, but you can’t associate yourself with the any religion, by accepting accept 9 out of 10 conditions and fabricating and making the 10th condition yourself. You must have to follow and submit to all as it is. Thanks, Cheers:-)

        • Naila

          I dont need yours or any governments/ country’s acceptance to call myself a Muslim, Mr Abdul. God is knows what we believe and He is the ultimate judge. I did provided you with a link where you can understand WHY we believe what we do. I call myself a Muslim and associate myself with Islam and shall till the day I die. When you dont have the knowledge of what we believe, then how can you claim that we “fabricated” what we believe? Please touch-up on your knowledge before making these profound statements.

          • Abdul269

            To be become an american citizen, you have to follow the guidelines of the state. Either u born in America or you must comply with the terms and conditions to be an american. You can’t just associate yourself with american without complying to the stipulations and US is there to make sure tht u comply to all the terms & conditions. Same is the case with the religion. I read ur link, but i’m not going to buy that. You mean 2 billions muslims living are following a wrong religion. It is your choice to choose the right path, but i will not let you guys corrupt the religion Islam. U hav ur equal rights to practice and even propagate ur religon but not under the umbrella of Islam, as Islam Ahmediya is no religion. Either u want to live as Muslim or Qadyani, it is ur choice..but STOP associating urself with Islam. Thanks!

          • Naila

            To become a Muslim, you have to say the Kalma: There is no God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the Messenger of Allah. You dont submit an application form and then there is a selection process of any kind. Anyone, anywhere can be Muslim. So you cant compare that to getting the nationality of a country. I am not saying 2 billion Muslims are wrong, but do you show anywhere by your actions that you are right? I wouldnt know that either. I can go around calling YOU a non-Muslim as well cos you dont believe what tens of millions of Ahmadi Muslims believe. But I wont because I have been taught that that is wrong. God is the best judge so lets leave the judging to Him, shall we?

            “Corrupt the religion of Islam”? Provide me any proof of an Ahmadi Muslim doing anything wrong. Planting bombs or killing people by the masses. Who do you think is REALLY corrupting the religion of Islam? Please rethink your statement.

            We dont call our selves Ahmadis, we call our selves Muslims. You are correct, Islam Ahmadiyya is not a religion. Islam is our religion and faith. No matter how much you “plead”, I will not stop associating myself with this religion. Not until the day I die. Inshallah. I cant change your behaviour, all I can do is remind you & hope that Allah will clear your heart.

          • Abdul269

            Let me correct you: its not the only kalma that you have to recite. You must also believe in all the holy books, messengers, judgment day..which u guys do..but most important and crucial is “to believe in the finality of the Holy Prophet(P.B.U.H)”..which u guyz don’t and that makes you non Muslim. Its common sense..How can a guy coming in a British rule call himself a messenger..? Dny u think its best to DIE as a Ummati of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H), so that there is a chance of forgiveness? Anyways..May God show us the right path..Ameen…

          • Naila

            You keep your common sense and I will keep my beliefs. May God show you the right path too. Ameen.

          • Muhammad

            Assalamualykum, if you are Muslim that means you must believe Quran. in the Quran has clearly mentioned prophet Muhammed was prophet and final prophet. So you can not believe part of the Quran and other part like Pays As You Go system! Any inquiry, I’m requesting you to email me on ask.islam.syd@gmail.com because I don’t follow this blog usually.

          • lawrence

            do muslims believe Jesus died on the cross

          • Abdul269

            No Lawrence we don’t believe that Jesus (P.B.U.H) was crucified. We believe that God saved him and he will come again to save the humankind from the one eyed man (anti-Christ), Dajjal.

          • daleetaylor

            no

        • kevin

          abdul , why should any person have to defend his faith? any person speaking wrong will always end up looking silly .the truth is in the end always the winnner! look how politicians ,media, advertisers decieve us all ! and yet 30 years down the road all is lies and deciet. and yet people at the present time believe whole heartedly that they are right .so leading to conflict, religion in its true form can bring nothing but love, no tears ,no pain ,in days gone by kingdoms and kings where united through marriage ,they brought peace ,they prospered. in this day all religions have a focal point ,a leader. i say bring all the leaders together and let the world see that peace is possible and within grasp.just as 2 men where responsible for the action of war palestine and israel ,so the leaders can also bring peace.

        • Amal Thaon

          As it is under the goddess Ishtar, her word is immutable, unlike the laws of man which may be changed man. Doesn’t say much for suffrage, perhaps, but it does speak wonders about the essential momism of Abrahamism and the violent teenage love|hate relationship Jews, Christians, and Muslims have with their childhoods; they become at once childlishly dependent and violently independent (or try to become. Since Abrahamists seem to be inherently unable to grow up and become responsible citizens with law which contracts as man’s mind expands, they must all be destroyed. The only option is for them to destroy each other and themselves. Actually, what a profound idea, what a sound conclusion, what a burst of applause for the Endtimes! Uruk, Armageddon, and Gotterdamerung in one supernova of cataclysm even a mouse on Mars might notice.

  • jjmf

    As a former atheist, I formerly did not believe in God because I grew up Catholic. The school I attended was Catholic. Filled with un-love, racism & traditions that were outdated. Mass was tradition – not applicable to life. It didn’t help me understand how Catholicism relates to my daily life. Throughout Mass it was ‘Stand Up , Sit Down.’ People did it because they simply grew up with it. Also to me, bible thumpers at times are close minded. They aren’t open to different views and different beliefs. What about logic and common sense? For some , they are in so much pain, they use religion to cope, so its not a bad thing.
    Later, I studied theology, simply out of curiosity. My take away?
    All religions or beliefs share one thing- Love & the existence of God or God(s). I overlook the semantics because its an endless argument. We as people are flawed thus any translation would be filled with agendas & have flaws. Logically, the commonalities and traits we share amongst all living beings is a miracle in itself – thus the existence of “God” or a realm beyond this physical life. Anyone who has studied Anatomy & Physiology, Biology & Microbiology or other similar science would see the commonality & miracles. Look around you , see nature , that in itself is spiritual. My point isn’t to convince others but merely to state, that today, I believe in God and the existence of another realm beyond this life. Without Faith, this world would be in Chaos because many of us try to abide by the teachings or rules and this keeps us inline. We aren’t perfect but we try to be civil.

    • PC

      you are right.. (Y) may god bless your soul (Y)

    • Leah Eld

      Religion is immensely diverse with dozens of mutually exclusive elements. Some religions have one god, while others have multiple gods. Sometimes gods are moral, immoral, or amoral. Sometimes gods are loving, cruel, or ambivalent. Some gods have human forms, animals forms, spiritual forms, mixed forms, or something else altogether. Some gods are immortal, others can lose their status as gods. Sometimes people can become gods. Some gods are responsible for creation while others are not–still others view creation as unimportant. Some religions demand human sacrifice while others demand animal sacrifice. Others demand other sacrifices or none at all. Some religions espouse love, but others espouse hatred or harm on others. Members even within the same religion can have thousands of differences between them. I’m sorry, but your statement that “All religions or beliefs share one thing- Love & the existence of God or God(s)” and the appeal to commonality between religions significantly misrepresents the actual case of humanity’s thousands of religions.

      • LiteSkinNigga

        You’re right about all these religions. It is very true. Myself I don’t consider myself part of a “Religion” I have done research and in reality no book matches more with what is right and feels right like the bible. So you’re at the point were like ok I don’t know if there is a God you’re uncertain of why you’re here and you give these books a try. Suddenly you learn things exercise them and see signs that would be impossible for them to be a coincidence or too many coincidences at once. Of course to a doubtful mind this sound crazy. But its a reality that people experience and live thru and myself I have experienced some amazing ones. I advise you to take a look at the holy bible with an open mind learn about it.. and trust me that day will come that you don’t sit there asking the same questions. Why am I here? or.. I wonder is there really a God?

        • Andrew Baucus

          And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): “Worship God (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghut (all false deities, etc. i.e., do not worship Taghut besides God).” Then of them were some whom God guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth). (Qur’ân 16:36)

          The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah … and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus (42:13 AYA)

          We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them (3:84 AYA).

          Soon will We show them our Signs in the (furthest) regions (of the earth), and in their own souls, until it becomes manifest to them that this is the Truth. Is it not enough that thy Lord doth witness all things? (Qur’ân 41:53)

          • aspenllc

            Islam is NOTHING like Christianity! At All in ANY way shape or form!
            1. Muslim’s do not believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
            2. Muslim’s do not believe salvation comes by and through Jesus Christ.
            3. Muslim’s do not believe Jesus Christ died on the cross, or even that he died at all!
            4. Muslim’s do not believe in the Holy Ghost.
            5. Muslim’s do not believe in the New Testament at all.
            6. Muslim’s do not believe Jesus Christ was resurrected guaranteeing resurrection for all mankind.
            7. Muslim’s believe that it was Ishmael that Abraham took to sacrifice.. not Issac.
            8. Muslim’s believe it was this incident of Abraham taking Ishmael to be sacrificed, that instigated the old testament law of sacrifice.. whereas Christian’s know the “real” reason is, that it was a similitude of the sacrifice of God’s Son Jesus Christ for the resurrection and salvation of us his children.
            I could go on and on.. but suffice it to say Islam could easily be called the exact OPPOSITE of Christianity, and therefore is OPPOSITE the true, everlasting, and saving Gospel of Jesus Christ.

        • aspenllc

          If you feel that way about the Holy Bible.. I would encourage you to read the Book of Mormon, which is another testament of Jesus Christ.. By “another” it is meant an “additional” testament and witness of our Savior Jesus Christ, not different from the Bible.
          In other words the Book of Mormon teaches the same Holy principles and teachings as the Bible, although was written by ancient prophets whom lived in the Americas, who’s people were also visited by Jesus Christ just as in the Bible, which was written by ancient prophets whom lived in the lands of Israel.
          I have read and studied them both.. they both say and teach the same thing.. The Gospel of Jesus Christ whom is the Son of the living God, and the savior of mankind.
          Read the Book of Mormon and judge for yourself as I have.. It does indeed contain the full and ever lasting Gospel of Jesus Christ, and is indeed the “truest” book I have ever read.

          • LiteSkinNigga

            I have done research.. I can’t really believe that Joseph Smith is a prophet.. the bible contradicts a lot of what they teach and it doesnt make sense in a lot of ways.

          • aspenllc

            Clearly you have not “researched” accurately. Regardless of the many false accusations regarding Joseph Smith.. The Book of Mormon speaks for itself. There are no contradictions between the Bible and the Book of Mormon.. And If the Book of Mormon is true, then obviously Joseph Smith IS a prophet of God.. Period!

          • LiteSkinNigga

            You’re free to believe as you please like I am.. Hopefully you put the bible first.. because joseph smith sounds too much like what muhammad tried to do.

          • aspenllc

            Of course everyone has agency to make their own choices in everything (obviously that includes religion) There is no need to put the Bible first that I see.. for again, the Bible and the Book of Mormon both say and teach the exact same thing.. The everlasting Gospel of Jesus Christ.. There is no contradiction between them. Any contradiction you’ve been taught I assure you is untrue.

      • daleetaylor

        Jesus Christ is either a liar, lunatic, or Lord. He was either God like He said or He was crazy. That is a personal decision we all must make.

  • lrb

    That white man you all see in pictures depicted as Jesus is NOT Jesus. The Bible describes Jesus to be black.

    • john

      Jesus was a jew sir.

      • Widge Widge

        Not white Jew

    • hosam

      Black or white, doesn’t matter , focus on what’s important and stop being racist against yourself

      • Jimmy

        Black of white it does not matter God made people of all races the bible does not mention the the race of Adam & Eve, races is man made concept, Jesus being pictured as a white man should not be view as his true appearance, even God himself and all the angel are pictured as white mainly, because human have prejudices and the white man control the world press etc, God word says out of one man Adam all nation came, all people you do righteousness are acceptable to him we are all his people all are equal in his sight.

  • so cool

    islam

  • Joe Theisen

    Muslims believe strongly in the Qur’an.

    The question is, “Why?”.

    http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/durie/islamic_jesus.html

    • Aya Dernayka

      simply, I care about both religions … Christianity and Islam… a lot of verses in the bible seriously has a weak terms … even though it’s great …than I saw that in the Qura’an it said that the bible was distorted …the quraan believes that christanity is RIGHT ..bible is a holy book …but because of the bible was distorted ..god sent his last messenger mohamad (PBUH) and he promised that the quran will be protected and never distorted ….
      simply the bible is full of doubts in ways … and as i said .. very weak terms and things that any logical person wouldn’t believe that it’s a holy book…written by god .. the real bible does not exist anymore…that’s why I personally believe in the quran
      the quraan is full of truthful events … there’s a verse in the quran said that the moon was split in 2…. and a couple of years ago NASA discovered that the moon have been splited … /// another event //
      A scientist been studying the life of ants for 40 years and he discovered that ants talk to each other …but we the muslims already know that cause it’s written in the quraan …do some research ..peace

      • Jimmy

        I am sorry but God inspired one holy book, it cannot be the Koran, IT DOES NOT even contain THE precious name of GOD which is Yahweh or Jehovah, each book of the bible has named writer who history prove existed, the Koran on the other hand has no named Author it has no consistency or proper guidance God dealt with one nation as his people on the earth that was the old nation of Israel he gave them standards of worship, the gave them insight into his personality, he gave them commandments to follow he did not treat the harshly but warned them of the result of not obeying him, he sent prophets to them to guide them on to the path of righteousness, the the Koran is directions of a political leader you conquered Medina years after been banished who the claimed to be directed by so Allah, this book was force upon the conquered people those who dear to resist would be beheaded. hear is a question to all Muslim what religious text was followed before Mohammed appeared? and for what purpose was the moon split please show proof of this literally, AS For the miracles of Jesus there is no doubt as the this was recorded by ROMAN historian.

  • Adam h

    Allah guides who he will to the right path.If you choose to believe then so be it and if you choose not to believe then so be it.Surely the judgement day is coming and Jesus himself will deny your claims on that day.All those led astray be Satan shall burn in hellfire with no way out.While those who believe in Allah and the prophet’s guiding shall find peace in paradise.Verily,Allah is all knowing.

  • Jackm Cm

    JESUS IS GOD AND SAVIOUR NOT BEEN TO INDIA NOT ONLY PROPHET.YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN TO KNOW HIM.SURRENDER AND TRUST TO JESUS FULLY ALONE FULL STOP.JACK

    • Aya Dernayka

      okay jesus is god … just explain this following to me . Does a god need to eat food ? does a god need to use the toilet ???!!!!! LOGIC MAN !!!! HE CREATED THE WHOLE WORLD ..AND NEED TO GO THE TOILET ???!!! ISN’T THAT INSULTING JESUS ??? he’s a great full man …he’s a prophet that has a message from allah to make people believe in him !!!

      • Pete Llloyd

        Aya
        Please read the Gospel Of John and you will understand that Jesus is both Man and the Son of God. He tells us that throughout the Gospel, that he is the Son sent from the Father, to save all of us, through his death and resurrection. He is more than just a prophet, he is our Savior. See John Chapter 3, 16:21.

        You are right he greatly humbled himself by taking on the flesh of mankind (and dying for all of us). But by doing this, God showed us his true love and mercy for us.

        Try not to tear down what others believe. Seek first to understand.

        • Aya Dernayka

          U seem a good person :) And I respect u all and ur beliefs but please just make something clear for me..how could a god let his own and only son die on a cross..in this kind of way.. The very awful way..he’s god so he created everything he can do whatever he wants in many ways… There’s something not normal here..I do respect you all I love peace I love you all this is what my religion wants and urs too..but just go and read the quran like I’ve read the bible..I’ve found a lot of contradictions..
          Peace

          • Pete Llloyd

            Thank you for your kind words. I think you ask a very good question, which is a core belief in Christianity. I think the Gospel of John explains why God sent His only Son to save us. It says:

            “3: 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

            In other words God chose to save us from our sins by this act of love (and mercy) which was to send his Son to us not just to die, but more importantly, to be resurrected and to show us the way to eternal life by believing in Him and following Him. His death was not the end, but instead the beginning, as he rose to Heaven and is now seated at the right hand of the Father. He (Christ) will judge the living and the dead when the time comes.

            Also, Christ was not crucified by God but by evil men who were threatened by Him. But even though he died, he overcame death (and sin/satan), and if we believe in Him we too may share in eternal life with him.

            So why did God let evil men kill his Son if he is God. He did not do this to punish his Son, but to save us as there is no greater act of love than to give your only Son to save another. The Son was with the Father at the time of creation and willingly came to earth to save us. This is true love. Love we do not deserve, but by the grace of God we receive it, and this is our faith.

            I hope this answers your question. And peace and love to you too.

      • derrick

        More and more christians are coming to terms that “religion was designed by man to gain control and money” by placing terms on your acceptance to heaven via; you have to believe jesus was gods only son or you have to believe in the prophet mohammed; these are the only barriers that conflict rises from. God surely would have not created stipulations for access to heaven if you have lived your life with love and kindness. Thats what we all should focus on as a whole. You can still believe however you choose, but place love and peace through gods words over everything else. Its seems to be a word game in religion when actions are the true key to life.

  • Jackm Cm

    without jesus you go to hell no other way,not other beliefs only JESUS CAN SAVE YOU FULL STOP.

  • Nick Brown

    In researching for a sermon, I found this article. Very informative, and the work you have done here to promote understanding, and to educate dear author is to be commended. As an Ordained Minister, I become very disheartened to hear the words of Yeshua twisted to threaten others faiths, and individuals with hell fire! Yeshua, was indeed a Jew, and the last time I checked there are no ‘J’s’ in the hebrew language, hence for the purpose of this comment I used Jesus’ given name Yeshua.

    For all those who chose to attack in my Lords name, I remind them that they should also check scripture – ‘we are not to judge’ is the first and most obvious – yes indeed Yeshua/Jesus was an angered individual at times, and most certainly did not look like the western European renaissance artists’ models of which most perceive him to appear.

    Mostly, and most appropriately, in these days, I quote something that is often miss quoted, and also counters many ill informed Christians, that say Jesus was not sent to us my God to correct the mistakes of scripture – firstly then why send him at all?… Secondly – ‘an eye for an eye’. An old scripture statement if ever there was – what did he say? – “You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you, Do not resist the evil man [who injures you]; but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, turn to him the other one too.”

    I may not agree with all teachings of all religions – many do not agree with mine – as a Christian Spiritualist, orthodoxy considers my views heretical – some have said my way of life has many similarities with Sufism, the ins and outs, the whos and whos nots, the whys and why nots in the final analysis are utterly irrelevant – so long as a way of life or religion teaches love, compassion, respect and understanding, and of course the praise of God and the great work of creation, no matter the name or face, the source ultimately being the same in the end (after all, a tree is always a tree, but is called something different in every language – perhaps the same is true of our creator????) then WHAT IS THE PROBLEM EXCEPT HUMAN EGO!

    Mutual respect is the only thing that can save we, the human family from a course of self destruction – and education is the only way to find this – by understanding our differences, and glorying in the commonalities placed there by the creator through his Prophets of the time, and hopefully realizing the similar, and respect of difference, not attack. We are not to judge – as in Matthew 7 – Do not judge and criticize and condemn others, so that you may not be judged and criticized and condemned yourselves. For just as you judge and criticize and condemn others, you will be judged and criticized and condemned, and in accordance with the measure you [use to] deal out to others, it will be dealt out again to you.

    To the author – thank you – blessed is your work – and to those of all religions commenting with respect, love and peace, and a desire for mutual humility, many a blessings. – With love and peace, Rev Nick

  • Pete Llloyd

    There are close to 7 billion people on this earth, with 2.2 billion Christians, 1.6 billion Muslims, and 14 million Jews. All 3 religions trace their religion back to the God of Abraham. If they all worship the same God why is their so much hatred between these 3 groups. I think the hatred comes from Man not God. Let us seek to do the will of our God and we will find a way to live together in peace.

  • Saeed Mpl

    Thanks Adrian.
    Mary And Jesus in the Quran :

    And mention Mary in the book when she drew aside from her family to an eastern place.
    so she took a veil (to screen herself) from them;
    then we sent to her our spirit, and there appeared to her a well-made man
    she said: surely i fly for refuge from you to the beneficent God ,if you are one guarding (against evil)
    he said: i am only a messenger of your lord: that i will give you a pure boy
    she said: when shall i have a boy and no mortal has yet touched me, nor have i been unchaste?
    he said: even so; your lord says: it is easy to me: and that we may make him a sign to men and a mercy from us, and it is a matter which has been decreed
    so she conceived him; then withdrew herself with him to a remote place
    and the throes (of childbirth) compelled her to betake herself to the trunk of a palm tree. she said: oh, would that i had died before this, and had been a thing quite forgotten!
    then (the child) called out to her from beneath her: grieve not, surely your lord has made a stream to flow beneath you
    and shake towards you the trunk of the palmtree, it will drop on you fresh ripe dates:
    so eat and drink and refresh the eye. then if you see any mortal, say: surely i have vowed a fast to the beneficent God, so i shall not speak to any man today
    and she came to her people with him, carrying him (with her). they said: o Mary! surely you have done a strange thing
    o sister of Haroun! your father was not a bad man, nor, was your mother an unchaste woman
    but she pointed to him. they said: how should we speak to one who was a child in the cradle?
    he said: surely i am a servant of God . he has given me the book and made me a prophet.
    and he has made me blessed wherever i may be, and he has enjoined on me prayer and poor-rate so long as i live;
    and dutiful to my mother, and he has not made me insolent, unblessed.
    and peace on me on the day i was born, and on the day i die, and on the day i am raised to life
    such is jesus, son of Mary; (this is) the saying of truth about which they dispute
    it beseems not God that he should take to himself a ! son, glory to be him; when he has decreed a matter he only says to it “be,” and it is
    and surely God is my lord and your lord, therefore serve him; this is the right path.

  • rose white

    Muslims are part of Satan’s Whore of Babylon worldwide organisation so it is logical they lie about Jesus origins and death and resuurection – Satan told the first lie?

  • Jessica J

    Faith alone saves? What about baptism? 1 Peter 3:21

  • mona

    “So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)” which taken out of context could even be seen as a support for the Christian view of Jesus’ death and resurrection.

    this ayah dosnt support the view that jesus died, but that he was born, he will die someday (when he comes back) and that on the day of judgement, he will rise again

  • Tom Torbeyns

    No, we don’t believe that jesus fulfilled the law on our behalf and that we can’t keep his rules. This is Augustinianis;, not Christianity.

  • HISMAR RUBAN

    the views about Muslims seemed to be extremely exaggerated, I doubt they are as homophobic as the internet portrays.

    • Richard Dey

      All three cults — Judaism, Christianity, and Islam — are FOUNDED on homophobia. That’s why they exist. Verse 17 of Genesis, the Levite law for cripes’ sake! The Bible says so! Read it and weep. The homosexuals were the Canaanites, the Greeks, and the Romans; they gave us the alphabet, numbers, science (the pre-Muslim Arabs gave us mathematics), democracy, philosophy, logic and reason, and they saved western civilization from the Asiatics at the Battle of Marathon. We owe far more to the Greeks than we do the Jews, little but algebra and gothic architecture to the Saracens, so much more to the Greeks that classical ethics long ago negated stone-age morality. And, since everybody is recommending reading something, try Greek drama. Begin with Aeschylus’ trilogy (all the other trilogies were destroyed by the barbarian Christians). They, like the New Testament, are in (hello!) Greek. Not Hebrew, not Arabic, not Aramaic. GREEK. Or is everybody around here like the Texas governor? She thought Jesus spoke 17th-century English!

  • Muhammad

    clarification of Quran Verse Which Warnock mention to support Jesus died on the cross. From the verse it doesn’t say or refer at all that Jesus was crucified or died. All human being will die and arise on the day of judgement. the verse is here again: “So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)” which taken out of context could even be seen as a support for the Christian view of Jesus’ death and resurrection.”——- Jesus is human, he was lifted & he is coming back to establish peace in this earth by killing devil anti Christ (Dajjal) in future. when he will be back, he will die that time. and then arise on day of resurrection. some other verse of Quran made completely clear that Jesus was not died & was not crucified. any further query please requested to email ask.islam.syd@gmail.com as I usually don’t seat on blogs.

  • aspenllc

    The Bible does not say faith alone saves.. but in fact it does say “Faith without works is dead.”

  • Jonathan Hughes

    Matthew 28:16-20Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him:

    Matthew 15:9King James Version (KJV)9 But in vain they do worship me,teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    1 Peter 318For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 1 Corinthians 2:8:“Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” All should know that the Lord of glory is Jesus.

    Jesus is the only one who said Father, forgive them for they
    know not what they do.

    5. Jesus in his omnipresent self is the Holy spirit that is the comforter. That omnipresent self is the Father who was in Jesus when he had blood in him.

    6, Muslims have no morals. It is, be a Muslim or by Islamic law,
    die. That is not a law of any kind. Allah is substitute for God like Splenda, NutraSweet or saccharin is for sugar..