Archives for Apr 19, 2005 @ 13:40


Preface to my response We owe it to one another, and I feel I am a journalist in all this rather than someone to spar with, to listen as carefully as we can. Hence, I belabored a point by point summary of what DA Carson says. I am confident that what I said adequately represents [Read More…]

Emergence is more than epistemology

Issue #1: Emergence is more than epistemology This book falls short of DA Carson’s better books, mostly because it is not researched thoroughly enough to cover enough of the Emergent movement to catch what is so blooming attractive about this movement. The debate cannot be reduced to epistemology, though someone from his angle might like [Read More…]

Emergence Divergence

Emergent divergence My own experience shows that I have learned more about Emergent from blogging and talking and asking Emergents than I have from reading McLaren, but I have learned plenty from McLaren and from Pagitt. There are other Emergents to deal with: Doug Pagitt and Tony Jones, Andrew Jones and Dan Kimball. They deserved [Read More…]

Passionate and why?

Issue #1A: Emergence is passionate in various directions: Why? And, along this line, we have to ask why it is that so many Evangelicals are upset with their past – whether or not one agrees with DA Carson that its leaders come from conservative Evangelical pasts is not the point. If they are, that is [Read More…]

Missional and holistic

Issue #2: The missional and holism issues Fundamentally, the Emergent movement is a “missional” movement and it is holistic in its mission, and until it is addressed from that point, it won’t be addressed centrally. I am not aware that hordes are converting to faith in Jesus Christ by the Emergent movement. I am deeply [Read More…]

What is Truth?

Issue #3: What is Truth and how do we put it together? Furthermore, DA Carson’s book fails to deal with what “truth” means. It regularly tells us that we can know truth, that we find it everywhere in the Bible, but he doesn’t really define it and expound it at length. I think we could [Read More…]

Subjects and Objects and Knowing Objects

Issue #4: The Subject’s grasp of the Object leads to chastened truth-claims Also, I don’t think DA Carson deals with the inevitable entailment of truth-claiming, namely, that even if we think the Scripture is Truth and Jesus Christ is Truth, we are still in need of dealing with our “articulation” of that Truth, and that [Read More…]


Issue #5: Over-reactions in the Emergent movement The over-reactionary nature of some of its claims, especially about (a) modernism and postmodernism and (b) what modernist Christianity really believes. The reason this is a problem is because it resorts to false dichotomies and to simplistic comparisons. DA Carson’s book will help with this and I do [Read More…]


Issue #6: Self-analysis or even self-deconstruction Is the Emergent movement largely white? largely post-Evangelical? If so, it needs to spread its wings and embrace the whole world. This is evidently an issue for some; DA Carson does not bring this up except in his stuff about it being reactionary. [Read more…]

Permeable walls abounding

Issue #7: A strength with a weakness: permeable walls abounding I find the “permeable walls” (they are not strong, solid, or thick) of the Emergent movement a breath of fresh air. It reminds of Jesus’ table fellowship where people could be with him, could be near him, could sit down right next to him, and [Read More…]