Quoting Quiverfull: Fancy Braided Hair is an Immodest Sin?

Quoting Quiverfull: Fancy Braided Hair is an Immodest Sin? September 27, 2017

quotingquiverfullby Ayla Stewart from Wife With a Purpose – Hairstyles; How Much is Too Much?

Editor’s note: Ayla is complaining about these hairstyles, braided like something out of HBO’s hit show ‘Game of Thrones’. Beautiful, but not very practical for day to day life, they look more like something you might do for a wedding or special event. But that does not stop  Ayla from adding them to the list of sinful immodesty. What do you think?

These hairstyles are amazing and my mind is blown at the talent of these stylists. Women’s social media right now is full of quickly edited videos that show how you can turn braided hair into elaborate designs, some looking like hats, bows and flowers. It seeme like innocent fun however many might not realize that the Bible warns us against these sorts of things.

In  1 Timothy 2: 9-10 we read, “Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.”

Now, I’ve spoken to many Biblical scholars about this passage and they have told me that it refers to the lavish, costly and ornate braided hairstyles of that time period that women would spend days creating, not simple braids like you might see on Little House on the Prairie. It’s interesting to me that in this time today when we see more and more people rejecting Biblical counsel on homosexuality, divorce, abortion, socialism, leadership, chastity, the family, hard work, modestly, etc. that we also see the rerun of these sorts of hairstyles.

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • Jo

    How does she know about the hair styles of Game Of Thrones unless she has been watching it- certainly not Christian viewing at all !!!!!!

  • A. Noyd

    She only socializes with other white people, doesn’t she?

  • Mirella222

    The braids themselves aren’t even the issue in that passage, but the display of wealth via gold, pearls, expensive clothes, and complicated hairstyles. The fashionable hairdos at the time were extremely complicated, and only wealthy women could afford to wear such elaborate hairstyles. The whole idea was to be humble and not flaunt your wealth, not to condemn braided hair in general. In any case, the idea that people following along with youtube hair tutorials is “sinful” is frankly, a bit much. There are actual problems in the world, and this is not one of them.

  • I find it curious that “socialism” is on her crap list, since there are passages in the Bible that have a socialist vibe. In fact, the late televangelist Paul Crouch (founder of TBN) even said on air that Jesus was a Communist, in a way. (The early church did things that could be considered socialistic.) Another irony is that it seems Quiverfull is big on rejecting Worldly Ways (TM), but it is American society that sees socialism as deviant.

  • No gold or pearls? Wait til that one gets around the prosperity gospel crowd!

  • Tawreos

    I am guessing she finds something a little too “ethnic” in the hair styles she is complaining about.

  • megaforte84

    And it wasn’t merely a matter of being able to afford to go somewhere and pay for hours of work. It meant owning houseslaves, more than one, enough that someone could be spared from cooking and cleaning long enough – or entirely – to do all that complicated hairstyling.

    For a movement that was trying to ignore class differences and proclaiming that whether one was slave or free didn’t matter to God, that specific display of wealth could have potentially meant far more than gold jewelry and expensive clothes.

  • AFo

    She does realize that most women aren’t braiding their hair like that for every day right? I personally don’t really even put my hair up unless it’s really hot or the curls are not falling the way I like; either way it rarely takes me more than 2 minutes. Most of the women I work with have similar routines. These more elaborate hairstyles are something fun you might try for a date or other special event. My sister loves to fancy it up for family weddings and parties, so she’s always looking up new styles; no one has ever complained that she’s showing off or flaunting her status or whatever drivel Ayla is spewing here. These Christian bloggers really have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find new things to complain about, huh?

  • Julia Childress

    We wouldn’t want to run out of things to add to the “sinful” list, now would we? Sheesh.

  • Mel

    That was my guess as well.

  • Mel

    Christian Patriarchy and Quiverfull writings always invoke the Bible – and always make me wonder if they’ve actually read the Bible rather than a selected subsection of quotes. Their love affair with free-market economics is a great example; the Epistles have entire sections that imply that the early church was behaving much more closely to a socialistic society than the libertarian dream world of the CP/QF crowd.

  • paganheart

    I think it sounds like someone is jealous that she doesn’t have the talent, time or money to do such elaborate hairstyles (or pay someone else to do them for her.) I know I wouldn’t mind having braids like Daenerys, heck I’m old enough to remember when Bo Derek made cornrows all the rage in “10” (I even asked my mom if I could get braids like hers, and was told “no” in no uncertain terms.) But I can’t braid to save my life, nor do I have the money or time to have someone else do it, and if I’m totally honest those braids probably wouldn’t look that good in my hair anyway. But unlike Ayla, I’m not going to pull the “sour grapes” card and say “well, the Bible says those stupid braids are a sin anyhow…”

  • Tawreos

    Does she realize how insensitive she is being. Some of us would give quite a lot to have the hair to choose these kinds of styles. Of all the things I’ve lost, I miss my hair the most.

  • FQB

    I do my hair in fancy braids for everyday – not every day, but not for special occasions either. Two french braids ending in a braided bun (or two) in the back. It looks pretty, and it’s actually really practical. A few bobby pins and my hair is solidly out of my face/dish water/cleaning/manufacturing environment reliably for 10-12 hrs. A non-braided bun never stays up so long. And it only takes me 15 minutes.

    I appreciate that it looks nice, but honestly it’s the convenience of not having to think about my hair all day that sells me on it. And at 15 minutes to do I hardly think it qualifies as a waste of time or vanity.

    But then, it does help keep me safe at work so maybe it is a sign of these ungodly times… /s

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    Well, certainly a collectivist one. But there have been plenty of collectivist societies that are not socialist and were, in fact, quite hierarchical. I think you can certainly make a case for socialism with the New Testament but you can also make a case for a society with class hierarchy that just includes noblesse oblige (like Dickens basically did). It is pretty hard to get “fuck the poor altogether, I’ve got mine” out of there though, and that seems to be the most popular attitude among conservatives.

  • SAO

    I managed to put my hair in Bo Derek braids, but if you have straight, light brown hair, as I have, you will have tons of little hair ends all along your cornrows, which will look like hairy rope with white scalp in between. I suppose Bo’s stylists had some magic goo to tame the ends, but I didn’t. It was not a 10 look, not even close.

  • B.A.

    Mine too-as soon as I saw the title.

  • Anonyme

    The ‘Little House on the Prairie’ books actually contain references to more complicated hair braiding, so I imagine Alyla has only watched the TV show.

  • Allison the Great

    Um, where does the bible warn against socialism? Or is this just bullshit that conservatives have decided to add into it? I’m not saying that the bible is a moral book, but it seems that fundies like to add their pet peeves and things they disagree with to the overlong list of “sins”.

    Nobody does that fancy braid shit every day. It’s not meant for every day. Does she also have a problem with fancy updos one wears for weddings? Something tells me this white supremacist woman will say everything she doesn’t like is sin. She can go blow it out of her ass.

  • Allison the Great

    Good point.

  • Allison the Great

    Well, the bible says nothing about huge houses and Ferraris, so I think Joel Osteen thinks he’s safe. /sarc

  • Allison the Great

    I don’t get why the Quiverful crowd loves the free-market so much when the men don’t have the skills to have jobs to where they can afford to live if they just “left everything to the free-market” as they like to say. They can’t “pull themselves up by their bootstraps”, fuck, the Pearl and Campbell kids probably can’t even afford boots.

  • Wade

    I love braided hair – on women and men.

  • Jennny

    I was about to say the same thing. Just being a woman makes us wrong wrong wrong. As the ‘queen of Twitter’ aka J K Rowling said in response to a troll who referred to her gentialia in crude terms, ‘Being female is not a design fault’.

  • Snowflake

    Very good point.

    Actually, I had to google images of those braids. They are beautiful!

    Jeeze, what a grump she is.

  • Anne Fenwick

    Yes, they’re typical of the European aristocracy, and I expect the source for GoT was Italian Renaissance drawing/painting such as (but not limited to) Leonardo

  • Nos482

    Why should I believe her? Being female herself, she’s clearly biased =P

  • pagankitty
  • AnSettlesDown

    That’s what I thought, too. “Holy racism, Batman!” Fancy braided hairstyles are sinful? How horrible of me to be driving my 8-year-old into sin by cornrowing her hair. (And yes, those cornrows take me a big chunk of a day to complete. Because this white adoptive mamma has slow fingers and is still learning. But they last 2 weeks!)

  • AnSettlesDown

    Pretty sure you hit the nail on the head with the “white supremacist” tag. Sister doesn’t like cornrows.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Perfect!

  • bekabot

    You’re running out of things to condemn when you have to go back a thousand years — or two thousand — to find something which can get your knickers into a twist.

    Just remember: Trump, football, football players, Puerto Rico. There are reliable goads to outrage much closer at hand.

  • Jezebel’sOlderSister

    She probably prefers Beehives/UpDos.

  • Jezebel’sOlderSister

    I have hair — but it’s too fine and poker straight to do much of anything with.

  • Jezebel’sOlderSister

    She had a professionally maintained wig.

  • smrnda

    Women’s social media

    I think that’s what she really objects to, these hairstyles have contributed to women’s involvement on that horrible evil social media. And to be totally sensible, she’s criticizing that from a blog…

  • Erik1986

    When I braid my horse’s mane for a show, does that make him sinful, or me?

  • Astrin Ymris

    My first thought was that her own hair had gotten too thin with aging (like mine) to carry off those styles, ergo they were sinful.

    But having gone to her site and read all the stuff about Endangered Whiteness, the racism theory seems pretty compelling, too. Though spite about women spending so much time and money being pampered and chatting with other women may play into it, too. She seems to think that white women should be staying at home having as many white babies as physically possible, which usually doesn’t result in having the disposable income or leisure time to indulge in such fripperies.

  • gimpi1

    OK, I jusf followed the “out-breed brown people” and I think I need a bath.. and some brain-bleach. High-proof brain bleach. And new eyes… you can’t un-see something.

    How absolutely awful.

    Oh, and we’re seeing elaborate hair-styles on period or fantasy pieces because it’s fun. No, french braids or braids with beads or braids with flowers aren’t “sinful.” Not if your definition of “sin” has any basis in what actually causes harm to anyone.

  • gimpi1

    Of course she misses the point. If we condemn overt displays of wealth, there goes capitalism – or at least that’s the thinking. Consider Joel Olsteen.

  • gimpi1

    OK, good catch, as I followed the link to the “outbreed brown people” post. Icky stuff.

  • gimpi1

    Of course she does not. Insensitive is a speciality of these groups. So sorry about your hair… chemo?

  • gimpi1

    Or leap into fantasy.

  • Tawreos

    No, just getting older =)

  • bekabot

    Princess Leia, flibbertigibbet. See, first she pretends like she likes one guy, while all the time she actually likes another, then after a while she comes clear that she likes Guy #2…when Guy #1 turns out to be her brother.

    And she braids her hair, which tells you everything you need to know. (The maidens who stay faithful to the Dark Side are much more modest.)

  • gimpi1

    Ah. Mine isn’t thinning yet, but I think it will, because it doesn’t seem to be graying, yet I find gray hairs in my brushes. I think the gray hair is more brittle, and is breaking off. As I go more and more gray, I may be where you are… aging isn’t for the weak.

  • Heaven forbid a woman do anything to proclaim or recognize her own sense of self worth.

    No, really. Paul the Misogynist was making exactly that claim in his letters to Timothy, that women exist solely to humbly serve men. Interestingly, there is nothing in the Gospels to indicate Jesus demanded the same of the women in his following. Indeed, the early church pre-Paul was somewhat egalitarian given the times and included the ordination of women as well as appointment to office.

  • …because I always refer back to a book 2000 years old for proper fashion advice……

  • Almost a chimp

    Yeah, and she’s rich. I bet she even owns some gold jewellery and lets her kids braid their hair.
    Anyway, the Potter books encourage Satanism and witchcraft and are responsible for turning gazillions of kids away from God.
    Well, according to the fundies, anyway.

  • Almost a chimp

    Napoleonic French prisoners of war in Britain made some stunning jewellery (bracelets, necklaces, brooches, etc) from braided human hair. They also used it for rigging on the model ships they’d build out of scraps of wood and animal bones.They’d sell them at markets held outside the prison gates.

  • Almost a chimp

    Hang on a mo, if they can’t have pearls whatever are they going to clutch every time reality intrudes into their bubble?

  • I binge watched GoT for the first time last month, (A few years ago, the first episode that I tried to watch was Season 2’s first episode, and I couldn’t get past Jeoffrey cutting out tongues and then threatening everyone with beheading. So I gave up.)

    In the recent few years, my hair started to thin, and I’ve been looking for ways to boost the volume in the front without any products or devices, so I looked for braid ideas on YouTube. (I moved to South Florida, and it seems easier to care for my hair when it’s long and I can just secure it out of the way. It grows too fast for me to keep it shorter and looking nice.

    I watched three seasons of GoT before I made the connection between braid styles that I’ve never seen before and the show. I don’t even know if I noticed on anyone else, but Dany doesn’t start with the more intricate braids until after she’s been married to the Kahl for awhile. And they became more elaborate at the seasons moved forward.

    So I ask the same thing that Jo does… How would you make the connection and also get so worked up over the issue to connect it to a TV show that you never watched? I have enough stuff to get up on soap boxes about while attending to the stuff that does occupy me. I don’t go out looking for fodder — especially not in venues that I don’t use or frequent.

  • I’ve only noticed Dany wearing elaborate braids. Did I miss something? She’s royalty, and she has attendants to do that for her. In the context of the show, isn’t it appropriate to look fantastic when you’re a young, beautiful queen?

    And aren’t we supposed to look attractive to our husbands, or should we work hard at looking like a dumpy frump? I wore French braids to work half of the time when I was a hospital nurse doing clinical for 12+ hour shifts. It was utilitarian and less of an issue of getting in the way when I had it braided as opposed to even a pony tail. Doing a bun, for me, took more time.

  • There’s also the issue of context. Apart from utilitarian use of braids to keep your hair out of your face or to keep it from tangling, I don’t think that people spend an hour doing a braid and then go to the gym. As noted well here, what about a wedding?

    In that section, Paul talks about drawing undue attention to yourself. At a gym, if you walked into Zumba with a mermaid braid that takes an hour to do and required product, pins, and pressing, you’d be immodest. At a wedding? Not so much. But you would look out of place if you did nothing to your hair.

    Heck, I was on a medical missions trip and a young girl that I got to know there told me that I needed to do something to my hair because she said that it looked awful when I wore it down (not in a French braid). You can’t win for losing!

  • texassa

    Hmmm.. somebody ought to let the Duggars know about this. Those girls spend hours on hours primping and heat styling their hair.

  • texassa

    Socializes, ha. I bet she’s a real hit at parties.

  • Ruthitchka

    This must not be the “Ayla” from Clan of the Cave Bear. Wink.