Duggars Behaving Badly in the Bahamas

Duggars Behaving Badly in the Bahamas September 17, 2019

Just a quick one before I leave for the airport. This came up  late last night on the Facebook page 19 Scandals and Counting. TLC’s the Duggar family went down to the Bahamas immediately after Hurricane Dorian to help with the clean up.

Good, right?   So good I wasn’t going to mention it. I thought ‘Good for them helping out.’

A few days ago  a reporter out of Jacksonville, Florida with WJXT , Vic Micolucci,  posted photos of the Duggars in the Bahamas praising them for their help and arranging to get the family chicken from Chick-Fil-A. Smiles and chicken abound.

I had wondered at the time about what they were actually doing there, helping or hindering. Why? Because of my own personal experiences going down to Louisiana to help many times in the months after Hurricane Katrina. It was no garden party, or Chick-Fil-A picnic, just hard dirty work slogging through. Sleeping in a sleeping bag I brought on the floor of an abandoned church with others from churches. Eating whatever they served us.

I shrugged and thought at least they are actually doing something, putting faith in action. Then this popped up, the words and photos of another volunteer also helping out with the hurricane clean up and it paints a far less rosy or  flattering picture of Duggars and Bates on the ground in the  Bahamas behaving with appalling entitlement and arrogance. Take from it what you will.

Apparently self aggrandizement is the motivation in all they so, sadly enough.

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  • Mimc

    Most celebrities have no business in a disaster zone and the diggers are no exception. Even non-celebrities often rush in before the area is ready for them. When food and water is in short supply untrained, out of town volunteers can do more harm than good.

  • Erp

    I believe the Bahamas have some gun control laws (visiting boaters must declare their guns and must leave them on their boats under lock).

  • Jim Jones

    Christians: give them an inch, they act like a ruler.

  • Tawreos

    I wish I could be surprised that they stole the fuel and then ask for money to “pay” for it.

  • Nea

    Volunteers? This reads like they’re attempting an armed coup of the area’s remaining resources.

  • Nea

    The badges upset me even more than the guns. What authority did they have and who deemed it “official”?

  • Tawreos

    They probably think that their authority is god given.

  • Nea

    God and gun given!

  • Tawreos

    Of course they are. What good is feeding and helping people if you can’t also force them to accept your religion while you are doing it

  • AFo

    No, no, don’t you see, the Duggars are just showing everyone the *right* way to help out after a major hurricane. They’re only bossy because the other volunteers are just so lost and don’t know what they’re doing, and they need some guidance from your friendly neighborhood Duggars. /s

  • I am surprised they didn;t stay home safely and just wave their hands and send prayers. Isn’t that how it’s usually done? I realize the hardship angle is set up to touch our tiny hearts and send them more money to spend on chick a fila while people die.
    I’m going to stop now. (deeep breaths…)

  • well they ARE Duggars after all. Surely that counts for something…

  • lady_black

    Grifters gotta grift.

  • Jezebel’sOlderSister

    I didn’t think this was possible, but i now have LESS respect for the Duggars than I did previously.

  • Polytropos

    Words fail me. This is even worse than using a natural disaster as a photo op, this is using a natural disaster as an opportunity to go looting.

  • Tiny but fierce

    That’d what I was going to say.

  • kaydenpat

    They really should just stay home instead of going to “help” in the Bahamas.

  • WallofSleep

    “There is no mercy for certain types of behavior here.”

    Oh yeah, I definitely like you.

  • texassa

    If they stayed home there would be no Bahamas photo ops of them “helping people” to post all over the internet to praise from their deluded fans and each other.

  • Saraquill

    They would have been better off using their fame to raise money, then donating the cash to a reputable charity.

  • Nea

    That involves 1) giving money away and 2) admitting their mere existence isn’t a reputable charity, so you can see the inherent problem here.

  • Anyone that is surprised by this behavior please raise your hand. Anyone at all?

  • Friend

    I believe most of this, but am not 100% sure how mere celebrities could induce the military to put the wrong fuel in a helicopter. And it would be good to know further details. Did they sweet-talk the US officials into thinking their appearance would look heartwarming and patriotic?

    B0ttom line, they should not have been there.

  • Erin

    Hi Suzanne. I disagree with EVERYTHING about the Duggar’s beliefs and lifestyles. BUT I see that you purposefully and strategically left out the racist part of the post from the journalist James G. Lea where he refers to an Asian woman as a “skinny Oriental.” When you are in the right, you should not ALSO be dishonest. That brings you down to the level of your opposition. What was your intention in not giving the whole truth?

  • persephone

    Erin, honey, no. No. This does not lower her to their level. That would require her going at least five levels down into the sewer.

    Lea is a fundagelical, which means he’s racist and misogynist. Suzanne was focusing on the Duggars and Bates. If she cut that section, that was her decision. She certainly didn’t say that Lea is a good man or indicate that he was on her good list. That a fundagelical is reporting this is the important part.

    Now, please, go play your game of whataboutism somewhere else.

  • Erin

    While I appreciate your thoughtful albeit, in my opinion, rude response, I guess I am not familiar enough with Suzanne’s work to assess how many levels apart from truly awful people she may be. So point taken. To accuse me of “whataboutism” is why I think you are rude. I am not attempting to discredit or disprove any part of this article. I take issue with leaving ONLY the racist section of the post our in order to cite the person as a source. And I am not your honey. Thank you.

  • persephone

    Yes, you are seeking to discredit Suzanne, and, thereby, this article.

    You chose to come into this forum and bring up something that has no relevance to what was reported. I’m sure there was a great deal more that Lea posted, but it doesn’t mean it was relevant to the issue being discussed.

  • Erin

    That was LITERALLY the only part of the entire posting that was left out. THAT IS MY POINT. You can easily google the whole screenshot for yourself. I agree this ridiculous fake charity run by Josh Duggar should not be in the Bahamian area, they should not be given financial support by anyone! But once again, the whole picture does make a difference. If James Lea uses language that shows me he is a suspect person I will have the whole picture. If I had written the post, I would have included the whole conversation and simply pointed out that the source could clearly use some education on his racism and then moved on with my valid argument. What is wrong with you?

  • persephone

    You’re getting hung up over something that isn’t relevant to the story. We know Lea is an issue. That’s clear. The focus of the post was on the Bates and Duggar families, and their grifting and theft and abuse.

    I don’t see how bringing that in changes the report. Maybe Suzanne will do an article on Lea someday. That’s up to her. Her point was that even fundagelicals are having issues with these con artists.

    As you mentioned, you can google it, which you apparently did. However, the conclusion you came to is incorrect and misleading. You felt that Suzanne didn’t tell the whole story. The fact is that she told the story that she wanted to focus on. Adding Lea’s position does not change the story.

  • CutePuppyGuest

    How tacky it is that the Duggars and Bates were eating Chick-fil-A and pizza that someone flew into the Abacos for them. So many people would have LOVED to have had some decent food that actually survived this disaster yet here these privileged people are eating high on the hog (for a disaster area that is) when so many true victims are doing without. Disgusting behavior and VERY unChristianlike.

  • Mel

    It would also require the Duggars recognizing that the basic EMT training that the Duggars may have gotten as first responders is not terribly useful on the ground after a disaster. Their training is meant to rapidly triage and stabilize people until a paramedic comes to transport the injured party. After a natural disaster, most of the triage has been done prior to the Duggars getting on the ground by locals. What the Bahamas needs badly is trained medical professionals who can diagnose and treat (e.g, doctors, nurses and high-level paramedics) to essentially clear the back load of injuries caused by the hurricane AND the supplies for these people to do their jobs.

    Their sister thinks she’s qualified to deliver babies after training with a woman who has been censured for malpractice during a home birth….so there you go.

  • Mel

    That’s the dark side of the CP/QF belief system that Instagram photos miss. ATI/Vision Forum/assorted others all teach that society is going to fall any day now and when it does, violence against others becomes acceptable. That’s how you get a bunch of undertrained Duggars and Bates carrying weapons in a foreign country – who the hell brings a gun to a foreign country? – with no sense of irony.

  • Erin

    For you to make the statement: “Her point was that even fundagelicals are having issues with these con artists” just confirms to me that the problematic nature of the source should have been a part of the story. This intentionality is NOT clear or present in this post WITHOUT the background info on the source! The very definition of relevant.

    I am so confused on why you are so intent on arguing with me about MY opinion. I appreciate that you disagree with me on the importance of the source of the story. That does not make me wrong. You are clearly very familiar with him and his background, but the average reader would not be. The fact that he himself is a fundamentalist lends more nuance to his criticism. ANYwho have a nice day!

  • Polytropos

    So true. Forget all that curated, soft focus IG nonsense, this is who they really are.

  • KDM

    Funny how they get to carry guns and act like thugs in the Bahamas with no questions asked, and yet the Bahamian refugees are presumed to be possible gang members under tremendous scrutiny before they can enter the USA. It’s ironic and infuriating.

  • Jennifer

    ..Ok Mel, that’s creepy enough to write a dystopian novel about.

  • Jennifer

    Yeah, some of it sounded pretty extreme.

  • persephone

    That’s your opinion. You’re welcome to it. Don’t come onto this site and lambaste the author because you, and apparently you alone, think she failed to make a point you considered important.

  • Erin

    Wow. At least I have common courtesy to not denigrate others and to discuss with good faith. You are terrible.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Did you even bother to read the comments policy? Clearly not. Thanks for contributing to Jerks 4Jesus! Hooray!!!

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    I posted the only parts that were forwarded to me. Please note this is not a Hugger site and you have beyond violated our comment policy

  • Nea

    I don’t even want to think about the blood on Duggar hands thinking they’re trained in anything. But I’m still freaking out more about the guns and badges. As far as I can tell, they told everyone they were going in to help but then showed up as some form a paramilitary force answerable to no one that started looting supplies and then demanding money for having looted.

    That’s way scarier than just being a crap2 midwife.

  • swbarnes2

    I thought ‘Good for them helping out.’

    It’s an island that likely is having issues with having enough shelter, food, and clean water for the inhabitants. Unless a volunteer has specific skills that the locals are short on, like medical training, I really doubt helping out in person is of benefit. Better to donate money to fly some food, or a water purifier, or crates of diapers, or pay for a nurse to go over, than to be on the scene straining the resources.

  • Mel

    Well, the Duggars are white and most Bahamians are black. In conservative land, people with dark skin are always members of gangs while white people carrying guns are patriots (which is totally different from being a member of a gang of course).

  • Mel

    The Botkins are highly pro-gun and certain that Western society will fall. Tomorrow. Or maybe next week. How it didn’t fall when Obama was president is beyond them – but all hell is going to break loose.

    The really sad bit: this is a fantastic dream EVEN within their belief system. Take the Botkin Sisters – or any of the Duggars. Their lives are pretty cushy from a survivalist POV. For society to fall enough that the Botkins will rise up as the leaders of a new government, our culture would have to crash SO low that no government officials were left nor anyone outside of CP/QF theology who could pull some basic local government together. To be the pinnacle of education, everyone who has any advanced education or is a true autodidact would have to die. To be the apex of culture, every artist including anyone with traditional craft skills would need to be gone.

    IOW, we’d have to lose something like 95% of the population. Losing 95% of the US population would destroy our infrastructure in real time. Fuel? Gone. Power? Gone with the fuel. Food? Good luck with that with no fuel for transportation. Interwebs? Don’t make me laugh.

    The Botkins have trained their kids to long for the day that society will fall – without realizing that their kids would be trapped in a life of dire poverty, breaking work and early death. But they would be at the top of the heap – and that’s what really matters.

  • Mel

    In a lot of ways, the Duggars are more scary to me than the Botkins. The Botkins are extremely pro gun and anti-government – and they know it. The Duggars have absorbed all of the same crazy crap2 from their ATI Wisdom booklets and listening to the adults – but no one in the family is of the critical thinking type so they might believe it more because they believe that this is normal rather than knowing it is a radical change.

  • B.E. Miller

    I’m thinking of the Native Americans and small pox. There’s a belief now that European diseases might have killed of something like 95% of the population.

    So if a plague wipes out 95% of current population…

  • persephone

    You are the one that jumped in with a comment about something that you felt was important in an extremely rude manner.

    You could have approached it in a much better way, but you were too intent on your point, which didn’t affect the content of the post in any way. At all.

    Most people here have been here a while, unlike you, and we know who most of the fundagelical players are, or we search them online for background. That Lea is racist is not a surprise. It’s SOP. It had nothing to do with the content of the post, which was specifically pointed toward the behavior of the QFers grifters.

    You started this with your attitude. You can choose to grow up and finish it. Or not. It sounds like not.

    So, goodbye. You’ve added nothing worthwhile to the conversation.

  • Angela Monger

    Anyone who acts that holier than thou is quite likely very dishonest and a crook. So not surprised. This family is total sleazy2 trash.

  • Angela Monger

    Well considering that he is some fundamentalist it is to be assumed that he is a white supremacist because they all are. They think their god and Jesus are white dudes who only care about white Americans. So trust me I already assumed the guy is racist.

  • Mel

    That was my thought as well. Honestly, the introduced European diseases ARE the reason that Europeans ever got a foothold in the Western Hemisphere. The Native American societies along the East Coast of the US had people who were healthier than the average European due to fewer nutritional deficiencies, had archery skills that made the primitive firearms available to the Europeans into a joke, and knew the details of how to live and where to live instead of being strangers without maps and a VERY long resupply time. It’s only when Native American groups were in an apocalyptic societal collapse due to unbelievable loss of people to a series of unknown diseases that Europeans managed to create workable societies – and even that was at a huge human cost to early European settlers.

  • MariaBarker

    To put it another way, you are in a village of a hundred people. And when the small pox disaster faded, there’re 1 to 10 of you left…

  • MariaBarker

    I was a fundamentalist for years, and I raised my kids that way, and I was NOT a white supremacist.
    For that matter, most African-Americans I know are fundamentalists, and they certainly are not white supremacists.
    It just isn’t a given. But I don’t see the point that Erin tried to make, probably in good faith, so to speak.
    This Lea person was fine with pointing out the specks in other people’s eyes, and ignoring the log in his own. And that’s what Fundies do best. Pick and choose what to be fundamental about. They aren’t a monolith.

  • Artor

    Tone trolling is the exact opposite of good faith, or courtesy. It’s hilarious that you think either describes your comments.

  • Anri

    Apparently, they do need stinkin’ badges!

  • Jennifer

    Sorry I didn’t see all this replies before, but may I just say..Holy Toledo. You always manage to put their beliefs into frightening, clear perspective.