Win Him Without a Word Right Up Until He Asks For Group Sex?

Win Him Without a Word Right Up Until He Asks For Group Sex? October 3, 2019

Through the years here we’re seen a variety of men and women say that if you are a believer married to an unbeliever you are to win them without a word. Smile and submit. Submit until he comes to the Lord. World without end. Today pastor John Piper of Desiring God  says exactly the same thing before ending at a rather strange set of exceptions. None of which are things most normal folks minds go right to. Win him without a word right up until he asks for group sex? I swear, everyone in  Evangelical Quiverfull has much dirtier minds than the average Joe!

First part, standard boilerplate Christianese about winning without a word by total submission:

Piper misses that what most people say about that scripture, that it means to smile and submit in all things until your man is convicted enough to accept Christ.

Then Piper warns you not to nag. Don’t nag him to glory.

I don’t even know what to say here, begging him and assuring him that he’s not second after God? How about about leaving him alone about his beliefs or lack of beliefs?

One thing I do know is that marriage in evangelical quiverfull circles sounds all types of bad, stressful and weird. No one really genuinely discusses legitimate problems, it’s all this carefully tiptoeing around land mines and conversations like this, that should just be a given. I would never assume if my partner loves a deity that he loves me less.

Piper spends a lot of paragraphs talking about Jesus and his words before we end up here, the strangest of left turns you could imagine. Sex yet again:

How do you issue a submissive no? Notice that while Piper is mentioning ‘wacko elders’ he’s not saying ‘wacko pastors’

Everything, and I mean everything, in this world eventually leads back to sex with these people. Talking with someone on the issues of a different faith couple should not automatically lead there!

Stay in touch! Like No Longer Quivering on Facebook:

If this is your first time visiting NLQ please read our Welcome page and our Comment Policy! Commenting here means you agree to abide by our policies.

Copyright notice: If you use any content from NLQ, including any of our research or Quoting Quiverfull quotes, please give us credit and a link back to this site. All original content is owned by No Longer Quivering and Patheos.com

Read our hate mail at Jerks 4 Jesus

Check out today’s NLQ News at NLQ Newspaper

Contact NLQ at SuzanneNLQ@gmail.com

Comments open below

NLQ Recommended Reading …

Quiverfull: Inside the Christian Patriarchy Movement by Kathryn Joyce

I Fired God by Jocelyn Zichtermann

13:24 A Dark Thriller by M Dolon Hickmon

About Suzanne Titkemeyer
Suzanne Titkemeyer went from a childhood in Louisiana to a life lived in the shadow of Washington D.C. For many years she worked in the field of social work, from national licensure to working hands on in a children's residential treatment center. Suzanne has been involved with helping the plights of women and children' in religious bondage. She is a ordained Stephen's Minister with many years of counseling experience. Now she's retired to be a full time beach bum in Tamarindo, Costa Rica with the monkeys and iguanas. She is also a thalassophile. She also left behind years in a Quiverfull church and loves to chronicle the worst abuses of that particular theology. She has been happily married to her best friend for the last 33 years. You can read more about the author here.

Browse Our Archives

Follow Us!