Is the “Red Pill” Mindset Biblical?

Is the “Red Pill” Mindset Biblical? January 17, 2020
Impractical Joker Joe looking for our Larry

Do we really even to ask? Apparently Larry Solomon of Biblical Gender Roles, he of the red pilling followers thinks it bears discussion. I think we can safely conclude that hatred of women is not a Biblical response, even as Larry et al approves of forcing a wife to have sex against her will and other rather heinous actions like controlling her by how you dole out pain medication.

Larry has written two very word salady pieces, one about women and this one about Red Pill guys.

Larry starts with this claim that women will have sex more readily with men who do not give an owl’s hoot about them instead of guys that try to please them:

Is there some truth to this? Are women attracted to men who do not live to please them but rather to please themselves? Yes, many women are attracted to this. Others are not. Will a man probably “get laid” more if he has this mindset of not needing to please women and living only for what pleases him? Most likely yes.

Statistics, real scientific statistics or you’re just guessing here, Larry-boy!

Man’s first sin was in listening to his wife, seeking to please her over pleasing God or in Red Pill vernacular, making his wife his mental point of origin

Nope,  Adam had free will, he didn’t have to eat the apple or pomegranate or whatever strange fruit it was that Eve had already eaten. Larry is assuming that Adam’s motivation for eating the forbidden fruit was to please Eve. There’s nothing in scripture that indicates this is why Adam did what he did.

More dumb woman blaming by a patriarchal non-thinking type.

A man who lives his life to please his wife is by very definition controlled by his wife. And God says the man who pleases him will never allow himself to be controlled by a woman:

His scriptural backing is quoting Ecclesiastes 7:26, a scripture that talks of how harlots and evil women are, not every single woman!

I will give Larry credit, he follows with the idea that men are not to selfishly made  their own selves and desires a point of origin for all their actions.

With every decision we as men make, we should not be asking whether this would please the woman we are with, but rather we should be asking “Would this decision be pleasing to Christ?”

Yes, Larry, please ask Christ how Godly it is to rape your wife and withhold pain pills.

As we have previously shown in this series, Red Pill teaches that the male imperative, or man’s mission, is to sow his seed as often as possible with as many women as possible. In other words, have sex as often as possible.

The grand irony of all of this is that Red Pill men, Incels, Mgtows and others from ther group are having way less sex that just about any other group this side of Catholic nuns.

The Bible however, stands apart from both Red Pill and historic church teachings regarding the primary purpose of sex. The Bible does not say the primary purpose which God made sex was reproduction neither does it tell men only to have sex with their wives to have children.

Uh, Larry, science and scientists have something different to say on the motivations for sex. Much of the primary motivation for sex is biologically hard wired in, and hasmore to do with propagation of the species more than marital bonding.

Larry then reverts to his usual favorite subject, the wonders of marital sex. Keep in mind this is a guy that has copiously whined about not getting enough sex from two different wives, and that advises men to never look into the weeping  devastated faces of their wives while having forced sex with them.

Red Pill is absolutely right that a woman should never be a man’s mental point of origin. But Red Pill is absolutely wrong that a man should make himself his mental point of origin. Instead as Christian men we must make Christ our mental point of origin. What would Christ have us do in a given situation? What would Christ have us do with our lives? These are questions we should be asking ourselves on a daily basis.

Not rape anyone, not be mean to others, to not behave like an abusive monster? Or am I asked too much?

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  • Whitney Currie

    Would it be wrong to point out that since most folks would say that Jesus never married, ergo He never had marital relations, either? That being the case, whining about ‘not getting enough’ would come off as childish, selfish, and possibly hypocritical.

    It seems to me that Larry missed Ephesians 5:25 “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her” – New International Version.* Yes, the verse just prior tells women to submit to their husbands, but that’s not the point. Cheating on your wife, withholding pain medication, and demanding marital services when she isn’t interested are the actions of a spoiled brat, not a loving husband. Being a ‘red pill man’ or ‘MGTOW’ or ‘incel’ is a complete failure to empathize with other people to instead focus on a man’s ‘needs’ that aren’t being met to his satisfaction; that is not love by any stretch. The very idea displays a disturbing willingness to completely ignore the needs of others and their right to their own bodily2 autonomy. The point that Larry there is on wife number two and still complains of ‘not getting enough’ tells me he’s failed to grasp how most of this stuff works.

    * https://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-25.htm

  • Saraquill

    Reminding everyone that the movie which coined “red pill” was made by a pair of tran5 sisters. Larry and his fellow twits continue to misinterpret their chosen scriptures.

  • AFo

    Asking what Christ would want you to do isn’t a bad idea, especially if you’re a Christian, but as usual, Larry thinks the answers already agree with him. I can’t imagine Jesus being as obsessed with s3x as Larry and the Red Pill guys are.

  • Tawreos

    Not rape anyone, not be mean to others, to not behave like an abusive monster2? Or am I asked too much?

    When dealing with sane people those should be a given, but, sadly, that is not what you are getting with Larry. The only good thing about him is that, as bad as I am at relationships, at least I am much better than he and his cronies are.

  • Raging Bee

    Larry is assuming that Adam’s motivation for eating the forbidden fruit was to please Eve.

    Well, no, his motivation was sharing something tasty with someone he loved (Adam did love Eve, right? Or at least had serious hots for her?). Also, the promise of “knowledge of good and evil” (or of anything else significant for that matter) was another good reason.

    A man who lives his life to please his wife is by very definition controlled by his wife.

    And a man who lives his life to please himself is by very definition controlled by whoever offers him whatever pleasure he wants.

    And God says the man who pleases him will never allow himself to be controlled by a woman…

    A man who “pleases him” how? PHRASING!

    Not rape anyone, not be mean to others, to not behave like an abusive monster2? Or am I asked too much?

    Yes, you are — you’re trying to make yourself, a woman, everyone else’s mental point of origin, you Jezebel Spirit you!

  • Raging Bee

    …and their chosen pop-culture references.

  • kaydenpat

    It’s creepy that he believes that Jesus would be okay with his misogynistic and violent behavior towards women. He’s describing using women as sexual objects. What does he do with texts like Ephesians 5:25 which admonishes husbands to love their wives as Christ loves the church?

  • Saraquill

    Larry and company would never get crucified on behalf of their partners.

  • Allison the Great

    Everything this Larry writes is basically “see? It’s in the bible, so it’s totally okay”. Who really cares if it’s in the bible? The bible isn’t relevant. Our culture today isn’t the same and it’s never going back to that. That was thousands of years ago. It’s ludicrous to try to apply those low moral standards to the ethics we have today because much of humanity has grown out of that kind of barbarism.

  • Desperate Ambrose
  • Jennifer

    1Trans sisters wrote The Matrix?

  • Saraquill

    The Wachowskis eventually came out as tran5. They go by Lilly and Lana.

  • Iain Lovejoy

    Verse 24 starts with “but / however”, and marks a break with the earlier verses which are instructions to wives. It is an instruction to (1st Century Roman) husbands that wives are only to be at the husband’s service as the legal and social head of the household (as the husband was under Roman law) in the way that Christians are at the service of Christ – for the purpose of Christ / the husband loving and serving the Church / his wife. In other words the exact opposite of Larry.

  • Friend

    It’s weirdly1 simplistic cherry picking. For example:

    -Slavery1 is mentioned in the Bible, therefore is good.

    -Everything I like in the Bible is a command.

    -Everything I don’t like in the Bible is demonic1, because there is a verse about demons1.

  • Jennifer

    And the he-man 2dopes have elevated that as their masculine idol. I may bust a stomach lining laughing at this..

  • Jennifer

    Or go a single night without anything they think they’re entitled to.

  • Carol Lynn

    Since the church is very controlling and cares only for itself, that’s very appropriate.