Suzanne Venker Versus Taylor Swift

Suzanne Venker Versus Taylor Swift February 21, 2020

I have rarely touched upon hateful female cultural enforcer who is just a touch QF Suzanne Venker, but that time has come now. Venker, if you don’t know her, is Phyllis Schlafly’s granddaughter, the outcome of generations of regressive womanhood. Some refer to her as “Canker”. All you need to know is that Lori and Ken Alexander just looveee her, short hair and all. A choice might not be an echo, but repression of women, hatred and denigration of other women seem to be an echo from Granny.

Many times Venker will introduce a subject and Alexander and others also stupidly echo whatever comes from  her mouth. Today that echo and non-thinking involved Venker having something of a hissy fit over Taylor Swift’s new song.

Why? Because Taylor has pointed out the double standard that exists in the business world between men and women. We’re not in the early 60s of “Mad Men” but any women working in a field with or without men deals with these same double standards. Sadly, here we are in  2020 still dealing with the idiotic ideas that things men do are wonderful, and when women do the same things they are somehow a failure.

Here’s what Venker said that Taylor’s fans took terribly.

Oh, let’s see, tweet/Facebook post out something bitchy, something regressive and tag a celebrity with what is known as a very rapid and vocal fan base. Then she compounded it with this:

What’s sad is someone mean poking someone and something that has nothing to do with them in any way, shape or form. Here’s the thing about “Popular culture”, you don’t have to participate if you chose not to, but you gain nothing but a reputation for complaining and griping if you insert yourself into it like this. It still sort of boggles my mind that Venker cannot seem to grasp that there’s always been a horrible double standard in the working world. Only someone privileged enough to not to have to work could possibly think this is not still a problem.

Taylor is not one of my top ten entertainers even if I have enjoyed a handful of her songs (hello “Bad Blood,” and “Shake It Off”) It always seemed like the lyrics of many of Taylor’s songs involved the guys she’s dated and some grudges she’s held against others. But hey, people do tend to write about the subjects they deal with, one cannot fault her for writing what she knows.

I like this song “The Man”. I like the very true message. One of the few ways we’re going to confront the unfair stereotypes and “Boys will be boys” silliness is by exposing it to the light, pointing out that this is the sort of behavior that is inappropriate.  Put it to death and bury it. The time has come.

Yet again Venker misses the entire point and she’s currently fighting with Taylor Swift fans. Kind of sickly funny how the ones that scream the loudest what good Christians they are say the nastiest things and fight the hardest online.

Interesting that Facebook is marking her own defenses against the Taylor fans as bullying.

Give it up, Venker, you are stirring up a hornets nest over a vile bit of misogyny.

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About Suzanne Titkemeyer
Suzanne Titkemeyer went from a childhood in Louisiana to a life lived in the shadow of Washington D.C. For many years she worked in the field of social work, from national licensure to working hands on in a children's residential treatment center. Suzanne has been involved with helping the plights of women and children' in religious bondage. She is a ordained Stephen's Minister with many years of counseling experience. Now she's retired to be a full time beach bum in Tamarindo, Costa Rica with the monkeys and iguanas. She is also a thalassophile. She also left behind years in a Quiverfull church and loves to chronicle the worst abuses of that particular theology. She has been happily married to her best friend for the last 33 years. You can read more about the author here.
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  • AFo

    I see she’s trying to pull the old trick of deliberately poking a hornets’ nest and then standing back to clutch her pearls all “My GOODNESS, how ever did they get so angry?” I don’t buy that she’s not culturally aware enough to realize the reaction she would get- Taylor Swift has a lot of fans, and they are very well known for fiercely defending her against any perceived slight. She was trying to provoke a reaction so she could be all smugly judgemental about how damaging pop culture is to the youth, plain and simple.

  • Saraquill

    Trolling for attention.

  • Paul Douglas

    “I’m so sad and so concerned for the younger generation… particularly since I have a son and a daughter who will have to contend w these people one way or another.”
    Crocodile christianist tears if I ever saw them. What about the abuse her own gay uncle had to put up with from Venker’s grandmother and undoubtably from Venker herself? But I guess he just has to contend with those “people one way or another”.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    I kind of hope she does this to the Bey-hive. I have heard horror stories.

  • Exactly, Desperate to be relevant. Maybe she’s getting ready to write a book. And I haven’t heard the term “penis envy” in 30 years.

  • Mel

    If you can’t become famous on your own credentials, be insulting to a famous person and enjoy the 30-seconds of viral fame. It’s not really the same thing as fame and decidedly not the same thing as building a reputation for competence, excellence or leadership within a field – but you do you.

    What is so funny about tonic-clonic seizures according to Venker? Those are unpleasant for the person who is having one – and occasionally for freaked out bystanders who don’t understand what is going on.

  • Janet Freiheit

    Not sure what channel it’s going to be on but I believe there’s show being developed about Venker’s lovely grandmother and her wrong-headed (and unfortunately successful) vendetta to sink the ERA. I was only a kid the but I still remember thinking Schlafly was a lying hypocrite. Thanks a lot Phyllis!

  • I’d pay good money to watch that.

    Funny how she’s not going after any men…

  • SAO

    Well, it’s damned near impossible to build a reputation for competence, excellence or leadership when your brand is Shaffley and ‘Ladies, let’s go back to the 50s, when life was so good’. And there were no laws against sexual harrasment or discrimination, so both were rampant.

  • Jennny

    Completely OT, sorry, Suzanne. Was feeling a bit miserable, third weekend in a row the UK’s been hit by torrential rain and gales. Flooding has prevented us from going to see our g/kids, 60miles away, three times now. But had to laugh at Tim Rodrigues on FB. He posted that the haters who say he looks in better physical shape since leaving his family’s starvation rations, are wrong, he tells us his weight …..and that he ate ‘7 platefuls of desert at one sitting’. Hope his piloting’s better than his spelling is all I can say!

  • frostysnowman

    Yeah, but women wouldn’t have even been harrassed if they’d stayed home, cooking and cleaning as they should have been. /s

  • Whitney Currie

    I’ve always find it very interesting how people like Venker insist on standing up for what they believe in, but then turn right around and demand that others do as she says rather than speaking up for themselves. It’s like she’s got a deep seated fear of people disagreeing with her, and doesn’t know how to handle that.

    Venker’s sadness comes off as false and contrived. Her whining about the number of likes she’s (probably) not getting compared to Taylor Swift is childish self-centeredness. She honestly sounds like she’s mocking Swift’s fans for no other reason than the attention she’ll get for it (as several other posters have noted).

    I think it’s time to rewrite the narrative, and stop letting people like Venker dictate to the rest of us how to live our lives.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    OT away! Timmy Rodrigues’ weight is a fair topic. I hope he eats all the desserts, ALL of them, and one day realizes how his parents neglected his nutritional needs so Daddy could have Kit Kat bars.

    More OT: Has anyone read “The Glass Castle” by Jeanette Walls? She experienced the same sort of food insecurity growing up, but her family was not religious. Mom would hide in the bedroom scarfing down Hershey bars while she and her siblings went without. Got interested in reading her book after I ran into at the dentist. She lived in my Virginia town. –

  • Plain English

    Always remember, no matter how justifiably angry and disgusted you might feel about a vile Christian out there hating life for Jesus, always always remember that they can and do hate themselves far more and with more disgust than anyone else could ever provide them. Fundagelical belief is designed to harm the self and others, in that order and it does so famously well in the case of Venker.

  • persephone

    I don’t facebook. Any chance someone could post some screen caps?

  • bekabot

    I haven’t heard the term ‘penis envy’ in 30 years.

    Notice that it was picked in considered preference to “Taylor Swift is wrong and I can prove it.”

    (That’s what she doesn’t say — and for good reason.)

  • SAO

    I thought it was a fascinating book. She never did quite figure out what was wrong with her parents, particularly her mother, who had the skills to be a teacher, but didn’t work, squandered an inheritance that might have considerably alleviated their poverty and didn’t seem to notice or care that her kids were hungry. Maybe it was just willful blindness.

  • Friend

    She’s c0ndemning the entire society in which she has spent her entire life. Crazy1 and w0rthless generalizations. Calculated to get a few people nodding in angry agreement, while the sane majority knows full well that life is complicated, hard, and beautiful.

  • persephone

    It’s good. Not an easy read in any way.

  • persephone

    Her parents had such an unhealthy dynamic. One of those marriages where you are willing to contribute to the divorce fund.

  • persephone

    Got an MRS degree, then decided to tell women not to do anything but be SAHMs.

  • Jennny

    Yup, mom conveniently forgets she told the world one of her pregnancies delighted her children even though ‘it means one less chicken leg to go round.’

  • Raging Bee

    Just another mindless bigot whining about “Why are those people so angry?”

  • Raging Bee

    I notice that in all Venker’s whining about Swift and her fans and how she SOOO desperately needs to let it all go but just can’t, she never actually specifies where either Swift or her fans are wrong.

  • Dom S

    OMG, that haircut though. She is Karen epitomized…

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Hey Mr. dc, your message ended up in the toxicity filter because of the threatening and vile language you used. IP address noted and you’ve been banned. You kiss Jesus with that mouth?