The End of Anglicanism

Joseph Bottum muses here about the future of the Anglican Communion. Nothing new to CofE watchers, but a reminder about the power shift in the global church.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/09627986880884206811 flyingvic

    What a nasty piece of writing this is, to be sure! It takes as read something that the Archbishop has denied; it (deliberately?) misunderstands Canterbury's position in the Anglican Communion; and it repeats the lying misrepresentation of what Rowan Williams actually said about Sharia Law. But I did smile at a sideline on the right of the page: "The Chump Effect. Reporters are credulous, studies show." Too right! This article seems a perfect example! The Anglican Communion is not a dictatorship, benign or otherwise, like the Church of Rome; it is a fairly loose federation of independent and self-governing national churches. It is not, therefore, for the head of the Church of England, even when wearing the mitre of Canterbury, to tell other churches what to do: what American Anglicans decide to do, for example, is none of his business. Would South Carolina take instruction in how to worship from California? When the states of America fell out the North went to bloody war against the South. Would the writer like to see General Rowan leading the charge? Give me a break and write something worth reading!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/12373317560249811006 Fr Longenecker

    Vic, the Pope is not a dictator. He's an elected monarch.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/09627986880884206811 flyingvic

    "A rose by any other name…"

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/02818749404185196722 Nighthawk

    "…a rose elected by the guidance of the Holy Spirit"

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/17691145638703824456 kkollwitz

    Flyingvic, do you ever listen to Anglican Unscripted on YouTube, and if so, what's your opinion of the content?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/16054717780596471998 Acontra

    "The Anglican Communion is a fairly loose federation of independent and self-governing national churches."well flyingvic, that is your problem right there…….sure doesn't sound like, "May they all be one as I am One with the Father"….does it!!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/09627986880884206811 flyingvic

    Acontra – so you define "as one" as "uniformity", then?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/16054717780596471998 Acontra

    no, not uniformity…..one in belief with The Church founded by Christ, unified in Christ as Christ is Unified with The Father. The Catholic Church is the only Church. Learn your history.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/09627986880884206811 flyingvic

    The more closely you define what your church must be, the closer you come to uniformity and the less room you leave for the Spirit who blows where he wills. Learn your history.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/16054717780596471998 Acontra

    As long as your collective faith communities continue to cater to the whims and desires of man, as long as the focus is on man and no longer on Jesus Christ, you will never know unity!….and as for that old chestnut called uniformity….You WILL accept women priests, you WILL accept women bishops, you WILL accept gay unions whether you like it or not…..it sounds to me that in your disarray, you yourselves demand "uniformity". ;)

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/09627986880884206811 flyingvic

    Acontra, since the thrust of Roman Catholic rhetoric against Protestantism includes the jibe that there are 30,000 denominations, many of which find it easy to disagree with the others, your suggestion that this indicates uniformity is bizarre to say the least!

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/16054717780596471998 Acontra

    Not Protestantism that I was referring to, but Anglicanism. With the multiple dictators in your Church, changing rules and principles and expecting all members to conform to the new rules…..well, is that not a demand for uniformity? Dictators love uniformity, do they not?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/09627986880884206811 flyingvic

    Acontra, in an Anglican Communion threatened with splits, not least between liberal Americans and conservative Africans, uniformity is the last thing to accuse us of. There are those in every church who seek a form of security in making everyone believe the same way they do – but there has been more criticism of Anglicans over the years for being allowed to believe almost anything rather than everyone believing the same.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/16054717780596471998 Acontra

    Which brings us back to the end of Anglicanism. A house in ruin, built on shifting sands.


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