Atheist to Catholic convert: How nice for you. Since you’re a Catholic you don’t have to think about the meaning of life. Just believe whatever the Pope tells you.

Catholic convert to Atheist: How nice for you. Since you’re an atheist you don’t have to think about the meaning of life since for you there is no meaning to life.

Atheist: Your religion, with it’s Sugar Daddy in the sky who gives you eternal life is just wishful thinking for weaklings who are afraid of the dark. You’re just lying to yourself.

Catholic: My Heavenly Father is also my eternal judge. I will have to answer for all my choices and take responsibility for all my actions. I therefore might go to hell, not heaven. If I were thinking wishfully this is not what I would have wished for, and if the darkness of hell is eternal, don’t you think we should be afraid of it?

Atheist: I’m not afraid of the dark.

Catholic: Now who’s lying to himself?



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  • Sandy O’Seay

    Father, Like you, I am a convert from the Southern Baptist church, for which I have great affection, but to which I could never return, having experienced the richness of the Catholic Church. On the other hand, your almost complete lack of hope of salvation, as you have exressed on several occasions, leaves me dry. Am I missing something? Surely we have some hope of Heaven. If not, what’s the point? If we don’t have an “assurance of our salvation,” as do the Southern Baptists, then surely we must have some understanding that if we follow the Lord, the best we know how, and the teachings of the Church, the best we know how, we will ultimately achieve the Beatific Vision. Thanks.

  • Fr. Dwight Longenecker

    Oh no! I have great hope of heaven. I trust fully in the grace of Christ and his everlasting mercy.

    I suppose the reason my posts tend the other way is because I feel that so many Americans–both Protestant and Catholic–are guilty of the sin of presumption. There is an easy belief and a comfortable “I’m OK You’re OK” mentality out there combined with a sort of semi universalism in which people fool themselves into thinking that everybody will be saved.

    My posts address this, but I don’t mean to suggest that we should not have full hope in the love and mercy of Christ.

  • Sandy O’Seay

    Thanks, Father, for this reply which I appreciate and which adds great clarity. I understand and agree.

  • MarylandBill

    I know it is uncharitable, but the thinking of many atheists, particularly new atheists infuriates me. On one blog recently, I pointed out that many of them made the mistake of equating scientific thinking with logical thinking… The response I got was incredulity that anyone should think that was a problem…

  • Montague

    Maybe we should say “HAVE you ever been in the dark?”

    Anyway, I wonder if it is Charity to pray for Dawkin’s soul, since he doesn’t like it. You know, intercede out of spite… not.

    Really, though, it is not uncharitable to be rather angry at the sort of stupidity these people spit out. Charity tolerates no evil. If we love them, then we want to help them knock it off.

    Anyway, the Bible tells us to have snide (I mean, uh, intelligent) responses to this sort of thing. :D