What About those Awful Catholics?

There are plenty of people out there who want to dismiss the Catholic faith because of bad Catholics. “How can you follow a faith” they wail, “which has suppressed women, tortured and raped little boys and killed millions of people?”

Every Catholic has to admit that there are bad Catholics. Really bad Catholics. Vile, evil, wicked and depraved people who are Catholics.

However, since when do we judge any group or nation or religion only  by their worst examples and by only by their followers and not by their beliefs?

Let’s say we want to decide if America is a great country or not. Would it be fair to judge America by the corrupt politicians, the murderous gangsters, the greedy Wall Street bankers, the drug addled movie stars, the serial killers and the inhabitants of our worst jails? I don’t think so.

Sure we’d have to take them into account, but we’d also have to consider the great and good Americans, the ordinary good folks, the noble, brave and best examples of American citizenry. We’d also have to weigh America not only by the actions and decisions of her citizens, but by her founding principles, her documents of state–the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

Same with the Catholic faith. Consider the whole thing objectively.

Or just remain an ignorant, brainwashed bigot.



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  • David N

    I was called an unintelligent bigot the other day. Because I said marriage should be between one man and one woman.

  • Arnold

    It seems to me that we almost never hear about bad Protestants as an argument against that branch of Christianity. Or an even more blatant example: a hundred million or more dead in the 20th century at the hands of atheists as an argument against all atheism. Why is it that a church supposedly suppressing women includes a disproportionate number of (young) women among its convert classes…at least, that is my experience when I observe the candidates and cathechumens every year in parishes I have belonged to. One can go on and on.

  • http://www.cliftondalecc.blogspot.com Rev Dr Robert Leroe

    We should not judge Christianity (or any of it’s branches) by imperfect people but by Christ. People will fail to live up to the teachings of Christ. I find this argument an excuse to reject faith altogether. What is then left? No direction, no hope.

  • Sadie

    ROFL @ the last line!!

  • Emanuele Ziglioli

    because the church has systematically done all that and covered it up in a mafia like style, everywhere in all continents. it has done it so methodically that it’s convinced me there’s something very evil with the structure itself

  • http://aodhagain.deviantart.com/ Jay E.

    Plus, really… when they point out that Catholics are sinners, they really establish one of our essential basic beliefs – that the Catholic (the universal) Church is a church of sinners. That there even is such a thing as sin! So, aside from being an ad hominem attack, it only proves our point! We’re sinners! And that’s the whole reason WHY there’s a Catholic Church.

  • Emanuele Ziglioli

    “Humanum fuit errare, diabolicum est per animositatem in errore manere.”
    Making mistakes is human, persevering in doing so is from the devil.
    Or, “by their fruit you will recognize them”.

    Saying ‘it only proves we’re all humans’ doesn’t make any sense because several church members have behaved like sub-humans.
    Minimizing the facts as some of you are doing means just carrying on with the sin.
    Just say: there’s no need for an organization in order to achieve salvation.
    Good and bad come from within us. An organization of men just amplifies what’s already within us.

    Hey, feel free to call me ‘ignorant, brainwashed bigot’, what an arrogance.
    I’ve grown up with the Church, never missed a Mass until I was 23.
    At 15 I thought I had encountered Christ in the form of the community of CL.
    For several years I passionately believed in it, until it slowly eroded from me.

  • Paul Rodden

    It always interests me that the atheists I know or debate with view the Church through a Protestant lens.

    That is, they’re always what I’d term Protestant atheists (those with an inability to see or accept the Church as a ‘Mixed Bag’, as Ronald Knox puts it in his, Creed in Slow Motion), and not Catholic ones.