The Strangest Conversation

The Strangest Conversation October 12, 2018

This is the strangest conversation I have ever been a part of. I am pretty flabbergasted.

From my Facebook page:

Harshvardhan Singh N what makes you feel navratri has anything related to women ?Dont u knw difference between Goddess and women?
The White Hindu There is no difference between Goddesses and Women. We are all divine. We all have God within us equally. The Goddesses are manifested in women as the Gods are in men.
Harshvardhan Singh Show proof of your bullshit from Vedas
Harshvardhan Singh No vadik texts says that women are manifestation of goddesses.
Harshvardhan Singh Vihnu puran states souls as energy of lord.Soul is not women or men.
The White Hindu In the final reality there are no Gods and Goddesses either. The pure divine energy doesn’t have a gender. But we relate to it through our experiences as humans. Celebrating Goddesses is celebrating feminine energy and it is right to worship Goddesses by thinking of and helping women.
Harshvardhan Singh Again crap .Don’t give me Buddhist concepts n mix it with Hinduism.
The White Hindu I’m an Advaitan and I have been all my life. Don’t tell me that I don’t know my own religion.
Harshvardhan Singh Goddesses isn’t feminine energy .This crap is straight against vadik principle
Harshvardhan Singh What you think n practice doesn’t become vadik priciple.
The White HinduSo you object to taking the opportunity in worshiping female divinities to care for female humans? I find that very odd
Harshvardhan Singh No i am against spreading myths in name of hinduism.Female divinity is different human female is different Humans don’t stand on pedestals of Goddess.
Harshvardhan Singh Start your own religion where women r goddess but they aren’t in vadik faith.
The White HinduAdvaita is very clear that all humans are divine. All beings are divine. All energy in the universe is God manifested. This is not a myth and I’m not making it up.
Harshvardhan SinghFirst don’t spread bullshit in name of advait

It goes on. And on. And on.

What do you guys think? Am I way off base here?
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  • Miriam Grimm

    Well for starters he’s clearly a misogynistic troll and doesn’t deserve any attention.

    That being said, it’s Hinduism 😛
    Of course there are people like him who deny the divine being present in human females…
    and then there are people literally worshipping human females. In the context of Navratri in particular, Kumari or Kanya Puja is conducted in parts of India, and let’s not even begin to talk about Nepal and its worship of the royal Kumari.
    I’d say the majority of Hindus fall somewhere in between, leaning towards the “female energy in human females” side, rather than… whatever his position is.

    Also, he’d have to define what exactly he counts as “vadik” (sic), because 90% of what modern Hindus do or believe isn’t in the Vedas but rather developed from Vedic principles later on. If we accept all types of both Shruti and Smriti, then it really just becomes a matter of whose book you read and how you read it.

    As said above: it’s Hinduism 😛

  • showyourfacewithpride

    Wow, that guy is incredibly rude. He’s probably just a woman-hater. While he accuses you of being wrong, he doesn’t explain his position on what is ‘right’. I agree with Miriam Grimm that it’s likely a troll. Just ignore him.

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  • mike malzahn

    so what do you think of the big brouhaha over this temple and women of menstruating age? that seem pretty strange to me.

    • Sambuddha Ghosh

      The big brouhaha is the brouhaha of the Clash of Civilisations, which is precisely why it is BIG.

      On one side, there is the Hindu civilisation and on the other hand there is the Western civilisation, representing a contemporary Battle of Kurukshetra between the forces of Dharma and Adharma.

      Hindus, for whom the threads of sacred traditions have not been severed due to Westernisation, know the legend of Lord Ayyappa and they insist that the youthful celibate deity has refused to see women aged between 10 and 50. Traditional Hindu ladies love and honour Him for what He is and are willing to wait for decades to visit Him; they love Him THAT much.

      Hindu ladies who believe in Lord Ayyappa have started a campaign #ReadyToWait to prevent the destruction of Hindu traditions under the (un)holy names of “Social Justice” and “Feminism”

      On the other side, are the Westernised elites who rule us. They look like us but their manners, tastes and ethos are Western. These people consider themselves to be the inheritors of the British Empire in India, and they are piling on the White Man’s Burden in civilising the Hindoo half-children half-devils. Of course, “women’s rights” and “gender equality” being nice good Western values, nice good White women would like to partake in their menfolks Burden too, so, our elites come in both sexes.

      The author of this blog had earlier written a piece to that extent, expressing her displeasure at the blindness of the Hindoo heathen.

      This latter group, as a part of their civilising mission, have declared that not letting women between 10 and 50 is according to Lord Ayyappa’s wishes, is “misogyny” and “patriarchy” and “superstition” and “violations of gender equality”; in other words, Lord Ayyappa is a “false god”, honouring whose wishes amounts to practising a “false religion”.

      Hindus are no longer taking assaults on our traditions and way of life, by our Westernised elites, lightly. Hence the big brouhaha.

      Watch out for this space… this Clash of Civilisations is going to get worse.

      • mike malzahn

        so you support the practice of banning women [of menstruating age] from temples?

        • Sambuddha Ghosh

          I oppose Christian iconoclasm masquerading as “women’s right” and “gender equality” so as to destroy the ethics, the traditions, the culture, the social fabric and the civilisation of my forefathers and my people. And so do hundreds of millions of Hindu ladies.

          And yes, I am against the practice of women entering men’s restroom or vice-versa and the practice of throwing severed cow heads inside Hindu temples.

          • mike malzahn

            ok. so are you against women of menstruating age entering temples?

          • Sambuddha Ghosh

            I am against those who view Sabarimala temple in Kerala as a Social Justice crusade or a Civilising mission instead of the place where Lord Ayyappa is found.

            As for smashing idolatry or patriarchy, they can continue to do it in social sciences department in all major universities…..

          • mike malzahn

            ok. so are you for women of menstruating age being banned.

            it is a simple question. why can’t you just say yes or no?

  • Ategnatos

    It seems odd that someone claiming to be strict Vaidika would quote from Vishnu Purana; many Vaidikas consider the Puranas unreliable. But if one does accept the Puranas and Vedanta, then there indeed are many quite different positions taken in different texts and their commentaries.

  • Sambuddha Ghosh

    I am sure that I won’t be receiving replies to this post, as that would disrupt the blogger’s “White Hindu” business, but nonetheless I’ll write it for the sake of confused Hindus who may chance upon it.

    There are certain concepts in our Hindu civilisation and our languages for which there exist no word in in your civilisation (i.e. “The West”); and using words familiar to you for these concepts leads invariably to mistranslations and worse, misunderstandings.

    If I were to go to the Capitol Hill, and ask the locals what the building atop it was, and got the reply, “It is where legislators make laws”, I may be tempted to say that the US Congress is the “Parliament” of the United States. The problem with this conclusion is that the US Congress is NOT a parliament in the sense it is understood in UK or India. So, if I told Indians about this US parliament, they would think that the US President is a ceremonial figurehead, that the US has a Prime Minister and that this PM is a member of the US Congress and is a leader (or is nominated by the leader) of the majority party.

    What is true of the conundrum of the non-American in America, is also true of the non-Hindu looking at Hindus, and the author of this blog is the perfect example. And just as US Congress is NOT a “parliament”,

    Dharma is NOT “religion”.
    Shastra is NOT “scripture”
    Brahma is NOT “God” (singular nominative of Brahma being “Brahman”)
    Ishvara is NOT “God”
    Bhagavan is NOT “God”
    Deva is NOT “a God”
    Devi is NOT “a Goddess”
    Puja is NOT “worship”
    Mantra is NOT “prayer”
    Brahmin is NOT “pastor”, or “priest” or “philosopher” for that matter
    Mandir is NOT “temple”

    You have, because of your Western cultural baggage, re-created Christianity, but now, with an Indic veneer and you are marketing the same as “Hinduism”.

    This “Hinduism” does not exist on ground.

    In an earlier post, you showed the temerity as well as the stupidity of listing “core beliefs” of “Hinduism”.
    If a “Hindu” was a votary in this imagined belief system that you call “Hinduism”, I doubt you’ll find even 20 million people in India who are Hindus.