David and Priscilla Waller Stealing Pecans for Jesus

David and Priscilla Waller Stealing Pecans for Jesus November 13, 2019
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Last week we shared an older story about Duggar in-laws, the Wallers. It was the perfect Quiverfull story because it fully exhibited many of the things very wrong in that theology. You had white Christian entitlement, people that believed their faith made them superior to the laws and the legal rights of others, good clean Christian martyrbating, exhibiting and using of reproductive choices to manipulate others, and the beat goes on.

We barely touched upon it, and just like that it was scrubbed from the David and Priscilla Waller website.  NLQ is hardly the only ones to publicly remark on the story, and it’s been up for years now. What gives?

Thankfully a little thing known as the Wayback Machine had archived the pages, but not the photographs. We’re sharing the entire story here today to illustrate the many things so wrong in this theology. Screen caps of the site are forever. You have to mark your site for the robots not to crawl and take automatic screen shots. I am guessing David does not know this. Used to be the tag </norobots.txt> if I am remembering right.

Guessing this would have put the Wallers in South Carolina or Georgia if it was roughly six hours into their part of Florida. Rural Georgia where peanuts, peaches and pecans are all grown, a place where strangers traipsing about your fields might just meet the business end of a shotgun.

So the hosts offered to let David and Priscilla walk around the neighbor’s pecans, along the windrows. Nice of them, and likely it would have been awkward had they returned from that walk with a bag of pecans. Questions would have been asked, or negative thieving opinions formed. Quiverfull is all about the appearance of rightness instead of actual outer display of the genuine inner person.

It’s one thing if you pick up one or two pecans squashed into the mud and eat them while walking. Most people would have no problem with that. It is a low level of thievery. but understandable. I would have been curious to see what it tasted like fresh too if I had never had a fresh pecan.

Notice David says he “had a little caution,” chose to ignore it, and soldier on. I love how in fundytown if it’s something that lines up with their own personal theology and legalism it’s the voice of God, and everything else popping into your mind is not. I would have thought if ever God spoke to you it might be as you were about to commit a crime.

Rural area + strangers + cash crop missing = cops every single time it happens in the daylight. This is stealing from the livelihood of others. This is how they support their families. Not a sideline, or a hobby.

The farmer is angry. He has every right to be angry as the Wallers are literally taking food out of the mouths of his family in more ways than one. Cattle prod? He should have used it.

Plus this sounds like it was not his first tussle over nuts with Evangelical Christians who think they are exempt from the laws and rules of a polite, just society.

What is ‘heared’?

Great, using your own reproductive choices to try and play on the sympathy of the law enforcement officers. I’m sure they just wanted to deescalate the situation to keep the farmer for blasting them full of bird shot. Petty crime like this keeps them too busy to investigate felonies. How many officers were tied up on this nonsense that could have been avoided had they just driven up to the house and asked permission first?

Being a Christian or a Satan worshiper, or a Buddhist or anything else has zero to do with this. David finally gets that he stole pecans, but is still in complete denial about his other crime – trespassing. As both Mel and I have stated in the comments the trespassing could have had much more serious consequences than a few pounds of pecans lifted.

The business of farming involves machinery and hazardous chemicals. What would have happened had they been out strolling on a day when the trees or pecans could have been sprayed to kill a fungus or for pests? Some of the pesticides used aren’t safe for humans.

Plus there are a million ways someone without the knowledge of a particular working farm can be injured. The liability would fall back on the farmer, who would now be responsible for your medical bills, driving up his insurance premiums.

The Wallers had no earthly business on that farm without permission. If they had taken the time to drive up and ask I don’t doubt that the farmer would have likely shown them around, and maybe even fronted them pecans.

That officer lecturing the owner? Never happened. I believe this is Quiverfull lying for Jesus to gloss over a bad wrong situation where the teller is entirely at fault.

Does that bad scream “a few pecans”?

Most of this is likely fabrication. A little moralization by someone who thinks they have morals but it actually operating from a place of pride, with no real morals, rich white entitlement and a thousand other not so nice things.

About that hundred dollars… if you’re walking around with fat stacks of folding cash like that it might behoove you to head to the nearest farm stand and just buy some farm-fresh pecans. The produce stands are everywhere in areas where things grow. I’ve seen them in that part of the world. Waller should know living in Florida where the “Fresh Oranges” stands are along all major highways.

See the neat windrows of pecans and pecan trees, sigh and say “How beautiful!” and then head to the nearest fruit stand. Simple. The farmer gets paid without a risk to his trees or insurance, or your life. You get fresh delicious pecans without risking jail time or a fine or injury. Everyone is happy, everyone except those types like the Wallers that must martyrbate and turn every unlikely scenario into a sermonette with them as the most righteous at the end.

Yeah, well, interesting that they don’t share exactly what their take  away was more than telling those prisoners to always listen to God.

The real takeaway should have been:

Don’t trespass

Don’t steal

But I’m sure that’s not what they learned. It is interesting their timing in removing this page from their blog David Loves Priscilla.

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  • texassa

    These people and everyone like them suck2. Yes, they blame “God” for everything they choose to do, not do, think, or say. He’s lucky he didn’t wind up in handcuffs. What a self-righteous prlck.

  • AFo

    Oh my God2, what a fairy tale. I’m sure when David started on his holy roller spiel, the officers were rolling their eyes because it has nothing to do with the fact that they were breaking the law.

  • frostysnowman

    “Father, why did you allow this to happen?” Argh! God didn’t “allow” anything, what happened was a result of David and Anna’s purposeful choices.

  • Tawreos

    I have to say that things must have changed, because I don’t remember a teacher that taught Chraracter when I was in school. I do love that in trying to convince the farmer that he was a christian he managed to list all of the reasons he is a better christian than the farmer. Also, they have, what sounds like, 4 or 5 officers on the scene, but they need to wait for a deputy to do anything. I know about jurisdictions, but it doesn’t seem to me that 4 or 5 officers is going to show up at the scene of a trespassing and petty theft that is outside of their jurisdiction. About the only thing that I believe is that they stole pecans and talked their way out of it.

  • Tawreos

    They had better watch questioning god like that since everything is supposed to be a part of god’s plan. It seems awful unbelieverish of him to question god like that.

  • Saraquill

    This reminds me of a passage from “My Empire of Dirt,” a non fiction book so awful I couldn’t finish it. The writer had a whim to make a massive birdcage. He cleared out a room in his house and place 10 pet store birds inside. The way he wrote it, their deaths were something they inconveniently inflicted upon him, not a result of his neglect or outright assault1.

    The screencaps above have a similar sense of “not at all my fault, this was all thrust2 upon us.”

  • Iain Lovejoy

    Someone once said that the essence of this kind of entitled conservative right-wing mentality is that there is one group of people (them) who should be entitled to the benefit of the rules but none of the burden, and another (everyone else) who get all the burden of the rules, but none of the benefits. This explains almost all their behaviour and attitudes.
    You couldn’t ask for a better example. They steal from a farmer and when challenged their instinctive response is “do you know who we are?” – it can’t be stealing because they are white conservative Christians, and white conservative Christians don’t steal: and in his fantasy they all defer to his white Christian awesomeness. That a (not one of them) farmer is entitled not to have his crop protected from them (as opposed to ordinary sinful other people) doesn’t compute.
    The lesson, I suspect, for the (very much not in the white conservative Christian club) prisoners is that if even saints such as themselves can if careless briefly find themselves confused with ordinary people and subject to ordinary laws, lesser folk such as them need to be doubly careful to do what they are told.

  • Iain Lovejoy

    It had everything to do with them breaking the law – they were explaining why the law didn’t apply to them.

  • Desperate Ambrose

    Alls I know about the Duggar/Waller bunch is what I read in the papers: They have enough kids to field a football team, with plenty of subs on the bench; and they seem to have a difficult time keeping their hands off one another. Aside from the obvious virtue-signaling in the article, I’m willing to give David and Priscilla the benefit of the doubt.

  • Nea

    If you google “David Priscilla Waller pecans” the link directly to their website and the first two sentences are THE first result. Right at the top. Link’s broken, but that’s a sad attempt at scrubbing.

    PS – according to a 2012 cached link at Duggars without pity, this is already an edited post. They say a lot of racism got redacted, like the “jolly man” being a jolly *black* man, etc.

  • Nea

    Benefit of what doubt? They confessed to trespass, theft, and use of her pregnancy to make an appeal to emotion.

  • Desperate Ambrose

    I doubt they were thinking, “Hey, let’s illegally enter this guy’s property and steal his stuff!” Their friends had led them to believe it wouldn’t be a big deal.
    Turns out, it was.
    “Terribly sorry, sir! Meant no harm! Only too happy to pay you for what we ‘gleaned’.”
    (The whole thing with “gleaning” might have been a rationalization, or it might have just been a (lame) attempt to salvage some dignity from the whole fiasco. I’m certain they knew that the whole purpose of gleaning in the Bible was to ensure that the poor did not starve.)
    At any rate, it sounds to me like the “large jolly officer” handled it the right way, a la Sheriff Andy Taylor of Mayberry.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    But it just shows an arrogance and basic disrespect is the problem I have with it

  • Karen the rock whisperer

    I did part of my growing up in California’s central valley, where people routinely glean after the harvesting machines…with permission, or they get tossed out of the field if they’re caught. Some kinds of produce can be gleaned without hurting the plants or trees; peppers and onions come to mind. Some can’t. like pears. Most people who’ve lived out there more than a couple of years know to get permission from the farm’s foreman or owner or go with a friend who got permission. Oh, and very few people are stupid enough to “glean” in a nut orchard. (Out here we grow almonds.) Every nut has value to the producer, and they glean after themselves sometimes.

  • Desperate Ambrose

    To my mind, that “arrogance and basic disrespect” are byproducts of what I have long observed in many fundagelicals: self-absorption. Oh, they talk a great deal about God, but it is almost always in terms of “where am I in my walk with the Lord?” Me, me, me. An obsessive/compulsive taking of one’s spiritual pulse, to the exclusion of any attention to what is going on outside the window.
    This is also why such fundies are so open to vast conspiracy theories like QAnon. With little or no interest/experience in how the world actually operates (or fails to operate, as the case may be), they are easy prey for snake-oil salesmen, either of the spiritual variety like Jim Bakker or the temporal variety like Donald Trump.
    Thank you, home-schooling. . . .

  • Allison the Great

    I don’t believe anything about this story either. I mean if cops fall for that “I’m a born again christian” then we need new cops. When people say things like that, they are trying to avoid punishment, and appear righteous ‘yeah it happened but I’m more moral than everyone else so look the other way and make an exception in my case”. A person’s religious beliefs shouldn’t mean anything in the criminal justice system. Everyone has heard “we need to put the fear of god in them”. Apparently their deity of choice didn’t make them choose to obey the law and isn’t making them more moral. We need to put the fear of the law, and of their fellow man in them.

  • Pen Guin

    I bet they didn’t offer to pay any $100.

  • Cynthia

    So, all this really tells me is that David and Priscilla, two of the whitest people I’ve ever seen, were confident that they could do this and talk their way out of trouble.

    How many people in the prison they visited would have had the same result, if they weren’t white?

    Is there any version of this where the Wallers should any insight at all into this, and the idea that maybe other people should sometimes be given the benefit of the doubt and that a shoot first mentality might not be a good thing?

  • Carol Lynn

    And what up with that casual comment of ‘gleaning’ hundreds of pounds of blueberries? Who ‘gleans’ *hundreds* of pounds of anything and expects to get it as a freebie? That’s huge scam right there.

  • Nea

    Wasn’t it fascinating that the Walkers claimed “she cried and we walked scott free with the results of theft” was somehow *just the same* as the experience of women whose husbands were actually arrested and jailed?

  • Desperate Ambrose

    Dunno. Neither of us was there. One thing I can say with certainty, though, is that nobody I know is in the habit of wandering around with a C-Note in their pocket.

  • Desperate Ambrose

    Hey, no big! God will grow more blueberries. Problem solved.

  • Friend


  • Michael Neville

    Gleaning is Biblical, it was an act of charity to allow the poor to gather unharvested food from the edges of fields. Anyone who can flash a $100 bill is not poor.

  • Friend

    Maybe I am just a fraidy cat, but I cannot imagine doing what they did—and then going online to spread the tale as some kind to lesson to people in prison but not to the person standing there with the bag2 of pecans.

  • Michael Neville

    When I were a lad there was a huge blueberry patch covering several acres in a state park near where I lived. During blueberry season it was common to see dozens of people picking blueberries, my parents, brothers and me among them. However this was done on public land with the full knowledge and approval of the state government. The only restriction was that one couldn’t sell the blueberries.

  • Nea

    We know they weren’t thinking that, but the point is they did that. At no moment did they think of anyone or anything else but their whim until they were caught – and not really even then, considering how they describe the farmer.

    When they go “no biggie, glean away” to someone doing the same to their garden I’ll cut them slack.

  • Friend

    As a lifelong white person, I cannot imagine waving a $100 bill in the presence of any aggrieved party or law enforcement officer. And I don’t think I would recommend this technique to a person of color. Yeesh.

    By the way, who carries around $100 bills?

  • Friend

    And the story of Ruth is not about home canning on the grand scale.

  • persephone

    It’s weird to me, and it could be because of the way things are set up in the South, but here in Cali you have police departments and sheriff departments and they are separate departments. Police are for cities, while sheriffs cover unincorporated areas. There’s usually one sheriff in each county, and all the officers are deputies, unless they have a special title. Sheriffs have no authority over police and vice versa, although they may coordinate with each other.

    And I know that any local country cop/deputy is not going to come down on the side of some strangers trespassing and stealing from a farmer. They just aren’t. They may have softened a bit over his wife being pregnant, but I have no doubt that they probably just asked the farmer if he was willing to let it go if the idjits left. There’s no way they lectured him on behalf of the lying, thieving, inbred2 Christian couple.

    I’ve lived in the country, and you don’t go roaming over other people’s property without permission. As Suzanne said, you can come up against the business end of a shotgun.

  • persephone

    I don’t believe a word of it. I don’t believe they lectured the farmer. I believe they might have softened a bit over Priscilla being pregnant, but no way are the cops going to stand up for two trespassing, thieving strangers over a local whose family has probably been there for centuries.

  • Talos2264

    In my home state of Washington if these two trespassed on a cherry,pear, or potato farm i can guaranteed they would have been shot. Farmers and ranchers in Washington are very territorial, and protective. Granted most farms are built like compounds do to harsh summer and winter weather.

  • persephone

    We gleaned a few times in local orchards, but it was all arranged ahead of time. Most of what we picked, pears and apples at difference times, were fallen, either knocked down during the last harvest or by age and wind. Since it’s California, there are multiple harvests, not just one trip through an orchard. There’s a lemon tree on the property of the house I rent, and it gives fruit pretty much all year round.

    That was not a little bag2. And it wasn’t the least bit dirty or muddy, which would have been the case if they were picking pecans off the ground.

  • persephone

    They are so gross. And stupid.

  • persephone

    There’s no benefit of the doubt here. They lied. It would never have happened the way they described it. Ever. The fact that they’ve deleted the post now that it’s getting play elsewhere just emphasizes that.

    Never give the benefit of the doubt to a fundagelical.

  • Allison the Great

    Yeah they don’t want anyone who was actually there to refute them and say that’s not what happened.

  • Desperate Ambrose

    Well, I’m trained/educated to think in terms of mens rea. Occupational hazard.

    I agree, they didn’t think of anyone or anything else. As I said to Ms. Titkemeyer, I think they’re among those fundies who are simply too self-absorbed to look out the window at the rest of the world. Combine self-absorption with a preternatural lack of self-awareness and you get results like this.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    They sort of freak me out because they look more like brother and sister than you might imagine a married couple might.

  • persephone

    These are not normal human beings. The only feelings they have are manufactured. Any real feelings have been bea9ten out of them since they were babies. They’re taught not to have any feelings that they’re told not to have.

  • Desperate Ambrose

    Never say “never”! ; – p

  • Allison the Great

    I was thinking the same thing. Like they come from some weird incestuous family cult or something.

  • Desperate Ambrose

    I think the lesson here is, Just because your friends happen to be the same flavor of Christians that you are, don’t assume they know WTF2 they’re talking about.

  • Desperate Ambrose

    They’re taught not to admit having any feelings that they’re told not to have.

  • persephone

    Just another way we know he was lying.

  • persephone

    I would bet their family tree looks like a flagpole.

  • persephone

    They shut down. They don’t have feelings in the way most people do.

  • persephone

    They make Boomer Esiason look like a promotional display for tanning beds.

  • I hate to say it, because it sounds so cliche, but… uh… it is the South.

  • Never.

  • Look at the headlines after any big natural disaster. White people “salvage goods”, black people “loot stores”. White people riot and it’s “a party that got out of hand.” Black people hold a legal protest, it’s described as a “riot”. In this case, it’s Christians (who are also White), but it’s much the same principle — “We’re good white Christians, it’s not theft, it’s gleaning.”

  • Well. That is one big pile of shirt. I don’t believe a word of his story beyond he took a whole bunch of pecans that weren’t his to take.

  • Nea

    Or a “cattle prod,” apparently. How do the Wallers know what a cattle prod looks like and why do they expect a non-livestock farmer to have one?

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Would have been more believable if he had listed a shotgun. Every farmer in the South has one, for good reason and is not shy about carrying or using it.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    Of course white Deep South rural cops are going to be easier on other white people who talk a good game about being Christians. This is not remotely surprising to me. And yes, we need new cops. We’ve known that for a while.

    I don’t know if this happened or not and I have a feeling he’s at least embellishing but none of the broad strokes of the story seem unbelievable to me. Also, I kind of think everyone in this story sucks69, including the farmer? I mean…that’s a heavy-handed response to people picking some pecans out of the mud. Trespassing is an issue but most people would leave if you told them to without getting half a dozen cops involved.

    Think I’ll stay out of rural Georgia because I’m happy to miss every single one of the people in this story…

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    This whole story sounds like “White conservatives acting badly” to me. Nobody in it comes out looking particularly good, IMO.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    I mean…the pecans were going to rot. I just don’t see the big deal. But yeah, an explanation and apology and offer to pay as you detailed seems fine to me without getting the law involved. I’m not really sympathetic to anyone here.

  • Nea

    Especially as the Wallers also claim he was going to fire over their heads. Four cops, a sheriff, a cattle prod AND a gun?

    I’m starting to think they just bought pecans & made up the whole thing for testimony.

  • Jennifer

    That’s one of the most absurdly fake and posed stories I’ve ever heard. The officer freaking wags his finger at the farmer and then actually insults him by repeating what Waller said and asking him if he heard? THEN the guy says gee all he wants is a nice little picture of the Mr. and Mrs. nut sack thieves? What utter bs.

  • Jennifer

    SERIOUSLY. God let you bend over and pick food that wasn’t yours, and you’re questioning HIM like He did it? Like it was even a horrible experience compared to countless others?

  • Jennifer

    I thought it was over the top too, and that response along with the idiotic preaching from David and the sudden desire of the farmer to TAKE THEIR PICTURE spells manure to me.

  • Jennifer

    That 4idiotic comment about a jolly officer was unbelievable enough, but he added the black description?..

  • Jennifer

    You might find things here like cool guns and the occasional candied cricket in a Pofolks candy aisle. But intermarriage isn’t normal. Not in FL anyway.

  • Jennifer

    Just how I felt.

  • Jenn H

    Sigh. What are the odds that the officer regularly has people tell him what good Christians they are after he arrests them.

    I bet this isn’t the first time they have done something like this, only the first time they were caught.

  • Sassafras

    Poor birds!

  • Desperate Ambrose

    Wow, 7 thumbs-down on two posts? Who did I piss2 off?

  • Magpie

    He took their picture to go in his gallery of thieves, like they put up shoplifter’s pictures at the shops.

  • Anonyme

    Damn, I didn’t think anyone could steal and make THEMSELVES the victims. It doesn’t matter if the nuts/fruit/whatever is on the host plant or not. It’s someone else’s land and therefore anything on it is someone else’s property, unless there I explicit permission.
    And then they have the audacity to turn their crime into a moment to be preachy to the person they willingly stole from.

  • persephone

    Florida isn’t quite The South. It’s down south, it joined the CSA, but it’s the oddball state. The high Latinx population, snowbirds, tourism, and retirees contribute to its differences.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    You are right! I wonder if the cops and farmer laughed afterward and said ‘those yankees!’