Did I Start as a Christian?

Did I Start as a Christian? January 23, 2013

Sometimes in life we see things really simplified. But rarely are things actually that simple.

When we hear about someone who isn’t Indian, who grew up in America, and is now practicing Hinduism, our first thought is that person must have started out Christian or Jewish. We tend to think of the world divided between east and west and the west is all Christian and Jewish while the east is all Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist.

But of course, we know that’s not true.

There are Indians who have been Christian for generations and here in America we have an enormous variety in religions and ethnicities.

I’ve known and know that we have readers here who are non-Indian Americans who grew up Christian. We have some who have grown up without a religion.

So what about me?

My situation requires an explanation. It’s not simple!  There are times when people say, why do you call yourself a convert? Didn’t you grow up with this? And again, it’s not that simple.

So here is my story:

My parents got married in 1977. My dad was from the southern U.S. and had grown up Lutheran (a branch of Protestant Christianity). My mother was from the north east U.S. and had grown up Catholic.

My dad moved to the north east for graduate school and discovered two things that changed his life. He met my mother and he joined an organization called The School of Practical Philosophy.

The school’s purpose was to uncover the meaning of life and help guide people towards enlightenment. It began in England, founded by a Scottish man. Within a few years the leader, Mr. MacLaren, was connected with Ouspensky and the Maharishi who visited the west to encourage meditation. MacLaren was intrigued with the Hindu philosophy, particularly advaita. He traveled to India to meet Shankaracharya Shantanada Saraswati.

By the time my father joined, the School was an established entity, helping western people to pursue meditation, chanting, and Sanskrit, but also had a strong emphasis on discipline, austerity, and proper respect.

After my parents married, my mother also joined. As they established a new home for themselves, they both left their home faiths. They found a good compromise in Unitarian Universalism. The UUs are known for being liberal, open minded, and welcoming. It was a good place for a married couple from different ends of Christianity to come together.

When I was born in 1982 we went to UU church on Sunday and we went to Philosophy School on Saturday. My parents went to Philosophy School more often. They had class one night a week, they eventually were teaching another night a week. And they also went on weekend retreats three or four times a year and a week long retreat once a year. As a kid, Philosophy was Saturday mornings for me.

I watched my parents do mantra meditation twice a day every day for half an hour. I learned philosophy at the School, but it was almost all separated from India and Hinduism. It was westernized except for some of the original stories that the Shankaracharya told. I had Sanskrit words mixed up into my vocabulary from such an early age that it never seemed odd. They were all words that were just part of my world. My mother told me once in a while that some of what we did was based on Hinduism and Buddhism. She took out a children’s version of The Mahabharata and read it to me at bed time. From the time I was born she told me stories about Krishna. A friend of hers who visited India lent me a Krishna comic book that I loved. Krishna and Jesus had pretty much the same emphasis in my childhood. It was almost like they were brothers.

I had no idea at that age how different my experience was from other kids!

Because of all the talk about philosophy and how much my family cared about it, I was a very introspective child. I thought a lot about life, death, and meaning. As a child and teenager, I was quite rigid (as I think most are!). I was very religious. And I had no reason to think I was anything other than Christian. 

At the School I started meditating, taking classes, and going on retreats. I was taught to see how the principles of Philosophy School fit in with Christianity. The leaders believe that all true religious impulses are towards the same Truth. There are ways to look at Christianity to make it fit Advaita philosophy.

Throughout history we’ve had years and years and years of leaders interpreting the Bible and Jesus for us. It’s a very different mindset to go back to the basics and re-look at it all. The way I was taught Christianity, reincarnation fits in perfectly and Jesus is an enlightened man who taught unity and that the kingdom of heaven is within you. When asked by a little boy if Jesus was really the son of God, my mother said, “Yes. And so are you.”

When it came time for me to go to college, I only looked at schools in locations that had Philosophy Schools. It was an enormous part of my life and the thing that really gave me a sense of meaning. I was starting to see it more and more as my religion even though the creators saw it only as a way to help you interpret your birth religion.

I went to Rochester where there was a small branch of Philosophy School. I was very nervous about being away from my community. I had heard for years that college students were wild and into drinking and partying and staying up late. That wasn’t me at all and I was really afraid that I wouldn’t relate to anyone.

When I arrived I saw posters that advertised a Christian campus group. It sounded like exactly what I was looking for to find other weirdos like me who were really focused on a religious life.

From the very first meeting I could see that I had made a mistake. I was not at all Christian by these people’s definition. Jesus dying had never been a part of his message from what I had seen. There was no emphasis at all on what him dying meant. Sure he rose. But we all do! I had never heard this Jesus died for your sins message. Never.

I considered this. I thought a lot about what made sense to me and what I saw in how the world worked. No matter who I talked to, what I read, what I tried, this Jesus dying to take away people’s sins made no sense at all to me.

I took classes in the religious studies department and learned a lot about the Bible, about Hinduism, about religious history. The more soul searching I did, the clearer it became that I was a Hindu and I always had been.

There is more to the story as the rest of college and then graduate school pushed me further from Philosophy School and more into Indian culture, but I think that’s a long enough story for today!

So you can see that it’s hard for me to say for sure whether I ever was Christian, whether I came from Christianity, whether I ever changed from one thing to another, or if I’ve always been Hindu even before I knew to call myself that. I’ve developed a lot of resentment towards Christianity, unfortunately. It’s hard being fully a Hindu now but looking to others as though I am Christian. I distance myself from that assumption whenever and however I can.

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  • Ambaa, I have NO IDEA what she is saying, either… I have no connection to it…

  • Chris Coles

    Hello. My Name Is Chris. (If I Could Get My Phone To Quit Capitalizing Every Word, I Would. Sorry!) I’m New To Hinduism, And Right Now It All Just Seems Really Overwhelming. I Live In Rural Tennessee, And I Am A Liberal Christian, Though My Family Is Conservative Southern Baptist. However, Much Of What I’ve Read On Hinduism Makes Sense To me. I’ve Been Thinking That Maybe Some Of The Hindu Disciplines You Talked About Might Help My Faith. Unless My Idea Of Those is Way Off Base. Is This Crazy/Sacrilegious? Also, Where Do I Start Learning About Hinduism? It Just Looks Like So… Much. Not That All Of It Is A Bad Thing. But For Me, It’s Quite Confusing. Any Suggestions Would Be Nice. Thanks For Your Time!

    • Ambaa

      Great to hear from you! There’s some good intro material here I think. Check out the “Hinduism Basics” tab at the top. I also have a getting started book called The New Hindu Toolbox.

      Himalyian Academy has some great getting started books too. I recommend Dancing With Shiva. It’s a huge book, but don’t let it overwhelm you. You just read one single page each day and you slowly start to understand the philosophy. https://www.himalayanacademy.com/view/dancing-with-siva

      You can also join my Facebook Page at http://www.facebook.com/thewhitehindu and ask questions there. I’ll boost them so the whole community can weigh in. You’ll usually get about twenty responses!

      Also, it’s okay to start slow. Ease into it with one new practice at a time. Maybe try chanting a prayer or a mantra in the mornings. (Here is a post about the Gayatri prayer: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/whitehindu/2013/09/how-to-the-gayatri-mantra/

    • stephanie

      this is in regards to your other post but I had to tell you:
      I just needed to tell you that us parents are not perfect but your Heavenly Father is. Never doubt his love for you for even a second. I send my love as well.
      Should you ever need to talk, Ill be here.

    • Patricia Garvin Fox

      Dear Chris, I read your letter but after the discussion was closed. I fully understand how you must feel your faith let you down and the version of it you experienced certainly did. I’d suggest that you explore the writings of Matthew Fox who espouses a broadly ecumenical faith but still Resnais in the values Jesus actually taught.

      By now I hope you know Jesus never said anything negative about being gay. You n any case, Fox’s doctrine is Original Bl swing, part of which is that humankind was and is created good. Sin is all volitional, sexuality is not. If you can’t find a copy of Original Blessing, please contact me and I’ll send you one. I’m also willing to be a surrogate grandma . Blessings to you living as your true self.


    “HINDU” does not actually mean for those who who believe Gods like Shri Ram/Vishnu/Krishn/ Shiv/Brahma or so.
    Rather each n everything is based on “QUALITATIVE” Specifications

    If someone goes to Understand HINDUISM based on Ved, Shrimad Bhagwad Geeta etc, then despite having studied for few centuries one may not be able to Understand it Completely, because if one is not able to Feel the Theme Conveyed behind every word, then it will lead just to SWALLOWING of WORDS, and the person would just become a “Librarian of Words relating to Hinduism”

    Hence I would request to those who wish to Learn Hinduism, should Start Deriving a Feel of Love & Respect for all Living Beings of Mother Universe.

    One word is always used in Sanskrit “BRAHMAND” which is used to convey “UNIVERSE”.
    We live in “BRAHMAND” ie “UNIVERSE”
    “BRAHMAND” is made of two words “BRAHMA” and “AND”. So BRAHMA+AND=BRAHMAND
    Now in simple words “BRAHMA” means knowledge, and “AND” means Egg.
    So in simple words for Easy Understanding , we are living inside this UNIVERSE ie and “EGG of KNOWLEDGE” ie “BRAHMAND”

    So, we all are part of the whole System which is meant to Useful for the Systems of Universe, and we should not become Hurdle in the System of Universe.

    Just like Stock Market is Managed by Basic Three Energies , called “Greed, Fear, Hope”, similarly the Whole Universe if Managed by three Energies called as “Sato , Rajo, Tamo”.

    Which in simple words for Simple Understanding, means the whole Universe works with THREE AIMS , relating to any of above mentioned three Energies “Sato, Rajo, Tamo”

    Now pls understand what three energies actually are:
    Sato : Certain Beings mainly work for betterment of the whole Word and its Beings
    Rajo : Certain Beings always Intend to Work for Gains/ Profits / Dominating / Ruling over others……… in Lieu of Efforts they make
    Sato : Certain Beings always INTEND to Take All Undue Advantage without Working

    In more simpler words :-
    Sato : They will always Serve whether you are Positive or Negative with them ( like Rivers, Sun, Moon, Saints, Trees…..)
    Rajo : They will React as per their Agenda of as per your Behave with them. ( ie REACTIVE ) ( like Kings, Business Men, Rulers…)
    Tamo : They will always Intend to Loot, Harm, Grab, Plunder and a Big Threat for all others Beings if circumstances are in their favour.

    This is very long subject to explain.

    However I believe I have tried to make a Brief on Hinduism, useful for those who Want to Understand Hinduism