Nuns on the Run

The Anchoress has some typically intelligent and fair comment on the upcoming renewal of women’s religious life in the USA here along with a good list of links and updates on comment. Max Lindemann writes eloquently on the whole business here. Kathy Schiffer looks back and explains teh devastating effect humanistic psychology had on Catholic religious orders in the 60s and 70s. Go here.

I can’t help comparing the visitation and planned reform of the religious orders with what took place in our seminaries. Read more.


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  • pablothemexican

    If you want to be reformed start saying the Tridentine Mass immediately, and exclusively, and make your Church a place worthy of the Blessed Sacrament.

    Call in all your Parish helpers, and find out if they are Freemasons; if they are, relieve them of their duties and send them to the confessional.

    No more Eucharistic Ministers, Altar girls, and so on.

    The Tridentine Mass makes Catholics.

    I entrust this whole matter in the hands of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, “Mother of the Priest par excellence, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and through Him, of all priests in whom she forms her Son”.

    Santa María de Guadalupe Esperanza nuestra, salva nuestra patria y conserva nuestra Fe.

    May Our Lady wrap her protective mantle securely, around her precious son, Benedict; Amen.”


  • savvy

    The Tridentine rite does not need altar girls because of the style of the Mass.

    I accept that women cannot be priests, but why bare us from other ministries?

    The test should be of one’s faithfulness to church teachings on the Eucharist etc.

  • Dan

    Dear Savvy:

    There are innumerable reasons for this venerable tradition, but allow me to mention a couple. First, human nature. Boys like to do things sometimes that only boys can do. Some boys get squeemish if they have to cavort around with young ladies. It’s hum,an nature, and there really isn’t anything that can be done about that fact of life.

    Secondly, and far more importantly, serving at the altar is a great inspirational training ground for young boys who may have a vocation. I assure you that the womenpriest enthusiasts are very well aware of that fact, which is why they maneuvered a bunch of neutered Bishops into importuning Rome for permission to do this.

    Finally, we all have a pride fault. We all succumb to this sin, men and women, in one way or another. We must ask ourselves always if we are being motivated by pride or by submission to God’s will. I don’t know if these observations addrss your concerns, but I hope you will see that there are reasons for traditions that span twenty centuries.

  • John


  • savvy


    I will trust the church’s wisdom on this issue.

  • The Ubiquitous

    … which said, basically, that for pastoral reasons it may be allowed. It is up to the bishop to allow it, and even then a priest cannot be forced to allow girl altar servers.

    (On the other side of the issue, having boys serve at the altar is a “noble tradition” which should be preserved.)

    So the wisdom of the Church says:
    1. While it is not absolutely forbidden,
    2. Boys are particularly encouraged, and
    3. No priest may be forced to allow girl altar servers.

  • The Ubiquitous

    Subtext: This is not a ringing endorsement.

  • Ella

    As a one year old Catholic, I agree about the women issue. Growing up, I attended the Episcopal church and when they added altar girls, we lost most of the boys. I notice that at my parish, that although there is one very quiet and well behaved young lady, there is one that is older and seems to be a distraction to the young men. Sometimes, men like to do things that are theirs alone and I daresay women have their areas as well. Vive la difference! One of the things I love about being a Catholic is that I am no longer in a church that considers women “less than”; we revere Mary as the Mother of God and commend the great women saints. Let us complement one another and rejoice in the Lord who has created us out of great love.

  • akaVarmint

    Yes, being an altar boy is inspirational training for the boys. Many young men considering the Priesthood are or were altar boys. However, where does the girl go for her inspirational training? We no longer Nuns in our Churches. How can a girl not only hear the calling, but begin to fulfill the calling at a young age before a sinful culture has influence? If girls are such a distraction to most boys, then have all girl altar servers at one Mass and all boy altar servers at the next.