The Murderous Face of Islam

angrymuslimOver here at American Catholic Donald McCleary has problems with Islam. I sympathize. He quotes Pope Francis on the need for dialogue with Islam:

In order to sustain dialogue with Islam, suitable training is essential for all involved, not only so that they can be solidly and joyfully grounded in their own identity, but so that they can also acknowledge the values of others, appreciate the concerns underlying their demands and shed light on shared beliefs. We Christians should embrace with affection and respect Muslim immigrants to our countries in the same way that we hope and ask to be received and respected in countries of Islamic tradition. I ask and I humbly entreat those countries to grant Christians freedom to worship and to practice their faith, in light of the freedom which followers of Islam enjoy in Western countries! Faced with disconcerting episodes of violent fundamentalism, our respect for true followers of Islam should lead us to avoid hateful generalisations, for authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence.

He quotes Andrew Bieszad who writes here about the incompatibility of Christianity and Islam. Bieszad has a Master’s degree in Islamic-Christian studies and is used to dialogue. He reports this about his first day of advanced Islamic-Christian studies.

I had done interfaith dialogue before, so this was not a new experience for me. We were separated into groups for the dialogue, and when I was permitted to speak, I said, “I am Catholic, and I do not believe in Islam.” Following me, one of the Muslim students spoke. She said that she was Muslim, and then she addressed me directly. In a soft, Arabic accented voice, she told me, “You are an infidel because you do not accept Islam. According to Islam, you do not deserve to live.” A second Muslim student heartily agreed, and after repeating the first student’s comments she added, “In Islam, the Koran and the tradition of the prophet are very clear about this. You deserve to die.”

His post, “the Dialogue Delusion” is worth reading because he makes the point that all the “dialogue” is one sided. The Muslims not only don’t want to dialogue, their beliefs forbid it. It is an impossibility.

I’m sure there are some liberal Muslims who disagree and who would want to forge a path of peace and dialogue, but where are they? Even if the vast majority of Muslims are quiet, peace loving, hard working, decent folks that doesn’t matter because they are not the ones driving the bus right now. The ones who are driving the Muslim machine are the extremists.

I hope the vast majority of Muslims are decent nice people, but I’m sure the majority of Germans were decent home loving folk. The majority of Chinese under Mao and the majority of Russians under Stalins were all no doubt quiet, hard working peaceful people who only wanted to mind their own business. This is irrelevant because those decent folks were not in charge.

Are there Muslim leaders who want peace? Are there Muslims who want to “dialogue”? Where are they?

All we can see are wild eyed barbarians beheading innocent people and threatening to kill as many as they can as soon as they can.

Dialogue with Islam? Many students of Islam say it is impossible.

When they establish a religious state the impossibility of dialogue becomes an impossibility of diplomacy.

And when diplomacy with a ruthless aggressor is impossible there is only one other option: defense and shelter for the victims of violence–and Pope Francis has called again for Western governments to offer refuge to the Christians now fleeing for their lives from Northern Iraq–

And after sheltering the refugees, the only other response to ruthless aggression by a foe who will not and cannot negotiate is self defense.

And when self defense becomes pro active this is what we call War.