How Progressives Are “Hillbilly Shaming” Kim Davis

How Progressives Are “Hillbilly Shaming” Kim Davis September 6, 2015

Kim-Davis

Over on the Patheos blog, “Love, Joy, Feminism,” Libby Anne makes some great points about the imprisoned Kentucky clerk Kim Davis who refused to sign same sex marriage certificates.   Even though Libby Anne believes Davis is a bigot (while I believe she her actions are justified and necessary), she doesn’t like the way some progressives have chosen to criticize Davis. The above carton, she points out, is particularly rude:

Note the spelling of some of the words and phrases ascribed to Kim Davis—”Ah will not issue marriage licenses to homosexuals because the bahble sez it’s a sin.” These spellings are clearly meant to portray Davis as a redneck, hillbilly, or backcountry hick, and that’s classist. Should we call people out for bigoted beliefs? Absolutely. Should we make fun of the way they talk or mock them for where they’re from? No.

Given that Kim Davis has now been sent to jail for refusing to obey a court order, I suspect we’ll be talking about her for a long time to come. As we engage in those conversations—as we discuss issues of religious freedom and point a finger at homophobia—let’s make an effort to avoid using either sexism or classism in our own critiques. I have to believe we can call out bigotry without engaging in it ourselves.

Over on another Patheos blog, Matthew Facciani made a great point about how some have criticized her for her looks:

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He writes:

… can we please stop slut-shaming and attacking the looks of women that we disagree with? If the point of attacking these people is to demonstrate that we won’t stand for bigotry in this world, then the tactics I’ve mentioned here are failing miserably. We can do better.

I wholeheartedly agree.  People of conviction are going to be at odds on this issue for years to come.  Instead of throwing more fuel on the fire, let’s try to elevate the conversation into a place of principle and not personality.  Thanks to these two Patheos bloggers for speaking out.

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Three Reasons Why You Should Not Call Kim Davis a Hypocrite

A Harvard Law Grad Explains Why Kim Shouldn’t Be in Prison

Madonna’s Gay Brother Defends the Kentucky Clerk

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  • So as a newly born-again Bible-believing Christian, she’s ceased the adulterous relationship with her so-called “husband”?

    It’s not the divorces before being converted – it’s the persistence of living in sin (Biblically speaking) afterwards, while castigating others.

  • Brian Bowen

    White Southern Christians – the only group you can hate hate hate and still call yourself “tolerant.”

  • bradysgrl2000

    Really? you do realize like you and me, she is human…Get it? HUMAN!
    This goes to show how much you really know about what being a Christian is all about.
    When someone becomes a Christian, it doesn’t automatically make them no longer prone to making mistakes. Nor does it automatically make them perfect!!!
    You know what you know about this woman because of what the media has shared with you. And we all know how unbiased the media can be!!! NOT!!!

    Are you angry and outraged because you think she is being a hypocrite???
    “How dare she stand up for what she believes in!!!”
    Or
    Because she was brave enough to stand up for what she believes in!!!

    You that are without sin, please, go ahead, cast the first stone!!!

  • bash0001

    If by tolerant you mean we won’t hang you from a tree over the road then yes, we ARE tolerant. Consider the past, that we are no longer doing that kind of thing. Consider yourselves lucky.

  • bash0001

    big·ot·ry
    ˈbiɡətrē/
    noun
    noun: bigotry; plural noun: bigotries
    intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

    That is how bigot is defined. Liberals / Progressives THINK they are smarter than everyone else. Why do they NOT know that EVERYONE is a bigot (about something or another)? How is it that, if they are sooo smart, they always misuse words? Are they NOT aware that once YOU CONFRONT something you do not like you become a bigot? EVERYBODY IS A BIGOT face it. It is NOT a bad thing to be a bigot.

  • Cynthia

    Well said .

  • Evan Hurst

    Hello, Alan.
    Bored again, as always?
    If all the religion blogs should down, you’d have no life at all.
    🙁

  • The Bible doesn’t call divorce an unpardonable sin. According to your reasoning, a baby born out of wedlock would have to be unborn if the mother were to get saved. You can’t limit, nor can the human mind fathom, how far the shed blood of Christ and His grace reaches, including covering sin that was committed before we are saved, and even sin committed after we are saved (when we have repented and asked His forgiveness.)

    By the way…if anyone was castigated, it was Kim Davis. She was very polite to some very rude people.

  • Gerry Surette

    I’d say since that clerk has been married four times that that fact makes her an expert on marriage. Case closed.

  • NWaff

    The H8rs conveniently ignore that her divorces were before she started reading the “bahble”

  • William Okc

    She’s a new Christian. And a Democrat. Give her time. We all make mistakes.

  • William Okc

    She’s not castigating anybody. She’s refusing to violate her religion by endorsing a falsehood.

  • William Okc

    She sounds like a good woman. We’ve all made mistakes.

  • Jeanette Victoria

    Have you forgotten that Moses was a murderer ,Mary Magdalene was a prostitute, King David as a adulterer and a murderer. Paul ordered the stoning to death of Christians.

  • Jeanette Victoria

    The only hate I see her come from folks like you and your fellow travelers

  • jwbaumann

    The enemy is not about love, reason, choice or tolerance. The enemy is about hate, emotion, force and singularity.

  • Beth Grant DeRoos

    For the record she belongs to a denomination that is called ‘plain dress’ which is a lot like how modern Mennonite women dress. And I so dislike people who instead of commenting in an adult way why they disagree with her beliefs, shame her on her looks.

    In doing so they are shaming millions of plain dress women be they Amish, Mennonite, Brethren, Hutterite or other hard working Christian sects, or even frum orthodox Jewish women.

  • “You that are without sin, please, go ahead, cast the first stone!!!”

    I’m just standing up for what I believe in. Unlike her, I’m not harming others, nor compelling others to act in accordance with my beliefs, not their own. Nor, unlike her, do I claim to be without sin, washed in the blood of the lamb or any other animal for that matter.

    She’s a hypocrite. Stating that fact is not “casting stones”. I’ve had stones – half bricks etc – cast at me by people like her, so know what it’s like. They bruise. They cut. They break bones.

    She doesn’t strike me as violent though. “Like her” only means “of like mind”, sharing the same beliefs, and willing to act, not just talk. Something we all should do.

    As regards the MSM reports – if you have personal knowledge of where they are reporting factual falsehoods, let’s hear it.

  • > EVERYBODY IS A BIGOT face it.
    True. The degree varies, but none are flawless, myself in particular.

    >It is NOT a bad thing to be a bigot.
    Yes it is. Some of us do our best to overcome our worse nature, even though we fail. Others embrace it, and glorify in it, because they can’t face their own failings, and so don’t do their best despite them.

  • bpgagirl22VAnow

    Kim Davis: married 4 times, multiple children, reborn Christian, stout in her faith, plain-living, plain-dressing, modest actions, modest dress, we can assume a non-drinker, non-smoker, non-drug user. HMMM, sounds like a freak to me! Yessir, condemn on folks! When ya’ll confess all your sins and confess Jesus, then you can say something, until sthu.

  • bradysgrl2000

    In what way is she a hypocrite? Because she’s human and makes mistakes? She’s a hypocrite because of that? Well, guess what? so am I, I make mistakes too. BTW she can’t check her ethical, moral beliefs at the door of her work place and her employer shouldn’t require that she do so either.
    She is covered by the EEOC law, and I hope she sues the pants off everyone involved including the judge sitting behind his high rise bench!!

  • bradysgrl2000

    Oh and what law has she violated? because the last time I checked; Congress has not established a law regarding same-sex marriages.
    SCOTUS can only interpret laws, they cannot legislate law!!!

  • bash0001

    If being a bigot has a down side it is in NOT recognizing or just not caring that one’s own self is intolerant of the other that they have a disagreement with.

  • There is no constitutionally valid law that restricts marriage to heterosexual couples, just as there is no constitutionally valid law that restricts marriage to couples of the same race – despite such laws (in both cases) still being on the books.

    Similarly, there is no constitutionally valid law restricting atheists from testifying in courts, or holding public office – even though such laws are also still on the books, with state legislatures refusing to repeal them.

    Ms Davis is a hypocrite, not for her past affairs and divorces before being “born again”. She’s a hypocrite because she claims the right to determine what a civil marriage is based on “Christian Convictions” while refusing to end her own biblically adulterous relationship. Apparently the Biblical strictures that must be strictly upheld regarding others are completely optional for her.

    She’s also a hypocrite for relying on “Freedom of Religion” for herself, while denying that same freedom to her subordinates.

    See http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/09/report-rowan-county-clerk-kim-davis-terrorized-staff/

  • Oh and what law has she violated?

    The law of contempt of court.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court

    If a court orders you not to do something – cease burning down synagogues, putting sewage in your neighbours yard, or refusing to do the job you swore an oath before God to perform – and you contemptuously ignore that, then you must purge your contempt.

  • Diaris

    Go find a mirror.
    The only emotion you lefties have got is hate.

  • Diaris

    What a pathetic liar.
    No one ever threw anything at you, they probably ran in the other direction.

  • Diaris

    The Bible does not say Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.

    Leftist ignorance, as always.

  • Jeanette Victoria

    You are confused I’m a Conservative orthodox Christian who live in the South

  • Jeanette Victoria

    Someone need a reading outreach program Mary Magdalene as a prostitute is a common Western story. I was defending Ms Davis but you seem to have missed that. What a freaking loon

  • That’s not what the CAT scans of my face say.
    As I said, bones get broken.

    On the other hand, many have it worse. Gay, Intersex or Trans – the kind of christian who stones others isn’t likely to make such fine distinctions.

    “A blog run by a Cuban dissident reports that trans woman Yosvani Muñoz Robaina was stoned to death in a public park in Pinar del Rio, Cuba on April 26, 2015.”

    “The woman, who was born Amos Chagas Lima and went by the name of Madona,
    was pelted with cobblestones by her assailants October 19 in Aracaju,
    the capital of the state of the Brazilian state of Sergipe. She was
    admitted to a hospital and died four days later of severe head injuries.
    No suspects have been arrested.”

    “A recent video of an alleged homosexual youth was stoned to death in
    Jamaica was posted on On-the-ground-news (a Jamaican online news)
    facebook page, which was then removed on March 3, 2015. The video below
    depicts the lifeless body of a young man clothed in tight pants with
    long hair (female “Bob” hair style) laying in a pool of his own blood
    and continuously being stoned by his executioners.”

    “In California, gay San Diego resident Jason “Cowboy” Huggins was stoned to death, according to TheNewCivilRightsMovement.com . Huggins—a native of Clarksville, Tenn.—was beaten so violently he sustained serious brain damage.”

    “Christian pastor David Berzins of Word of Truth Baptist Church in
    Prescott Valley, Arizona, recently delivered an angry rant during a
    sermon in which he condemned a fellow pastor for not endorsing pastor
    Steven Anderson’s call for death to LGBT people by stoning.”

    I do agree that anyone who takes a look at my less than beautiful visage might well flee. Having had my face burnt off in a fire recently did nothing to improve my looks, though I still have eyelids, nose, ears, lips etc.

    Worse things happen at sea, as they say.

  • Show me the Federal or State Law that Kim refused to submit to …!!!!

    The SCOTUS does NOT “make law”, ONLY the Congress has the authority to “make law” on the Federal level.

    Here is the Kentucky Law still in force in Kentucky lacking any Kentucky legislation saying otherwise;

    402.020 Other prohibited marriages.

    (1) Marriage is prohibited and void:

    (a) With a person who has been adjudged mentally disabled by a court of
    competent jurisdiction;

    (b) Where there is a husband or wife living, from whom the person marrying has
    not been divorced;

    (c) When not solemnized or contracted in the presence of an authorized person or
    society;

    (d) Between members of the same sex;

    (e) Between more than two (2) persons;

    THAT IS THE CURRENT LAW in Kentucky until the Kentucky Legislature says otherwise.

    KIM violated NO LAWS.

  • Beth Grant DeRoos

    Hi Jeanette Victoria. Nice to meet another conservative orthodox Christian. Although looking at me one might think I am a French Mennonite by the way I dress. Dresses and always a pretty hat when I leave my home to go out in public. Modest dress but pretty.

    As for being an orthodox Christian I read a few months ago on orthodoxy today site that the Orthodox Church’s teaching concerning relations with those of other beliefs and behaviors differs greatly from alternative understandings of tolerance, that we are to show love for all and respect for their right to their beliefs, in any case, even those beliefs that differ from ours.

    While not succumbing and allowing ourselves to practice their beliefs or behaviors ourselves. That this is where we become the candle in the darkness, the light of the world.

  • Trevor Lahey

    Nancy, I’m pretty sure pointing out one’s hypocrisy of being divorced three times (Jesus frowned on that) and then casting stones at (and denying constitutional rights to) gay people isn’t really “slut-shaming”. And anybody whose husband wears dirty overalls and a big straw hat to the televised release of his wife from jail in the company of two presidential candidates deserves to be hillbilly-shamed. But I do agree that, being a liberal, I should really rise above myself and raise the level of dialogue out of the gutter, like you are promoting here. That’s why I’m going now to read your dialogue raising article, “Black Lives Matter: White Liberals Selling Out Vulnerable Americans for Criminal Underclass. Heck, if that was any more diplomatic, I’d swear that Sarah P. wrote that herself!

  • Trevor Lahey

    Kim Davis, back sliding Christian (she was Christian when she marrying and divorcing and having children out of wedlock and committing adultery) who has an $80k a year job as a pencil pusher because of her mom’s nepotism and mismanagement of taxpayer money? That Kim Davis?

  • Trevor Lahey

    Nope, she was a baptist back then, so still a christian.

  • Trevor Lahey

    Ha! Reading comprehension is your friend!

  • Trevor Lahey

    The Supreme Court seems to disagree.

  • Trevor Lahey

    Those of us who understand language (and dictionaries) know that a lot of words have more than one definition. The very source that you lifted your definition from lists RACIST as one of the top synonyms for BIGOT. Either way, the fact that you need to cobble together this argument shows how little you actually have.

  • Trevor Lahey

    And it has nothing to do with them ALWAYS casting the first stone! Nope, just plain persecuted!

  • bash0001

    Yeah it does and it also makes a point to say HOMOPHOBE is a synonym for it yet it tends to skip that HETEROPHOBE is also a synonym. Bigot is whatever you can define it as and that is usually the opposite of what you are. You simply just thrive on making it a black thing or a gay thing . . . well it is not. It can also be applied to those groups as well. Blacks that hate police are bigots, Gays that hate Christians are bigots. It is whatever you want it to be.

  • bpgagirl22VAnow

    Judge not lest YE be judged! She’s pure in heart. Back off!

  • bpgagirl22VAnow

    Oh, so you HAVEN’T read much of the Bible. When Jesus came upon the others in Mary’s community who were about to stone her for ADULTERY – Jesus said to them “Who among you is without sin? Ye who is without sin can cast the first stone…” He then said to Mary “Your sins are forgiven, go forth and sin no more.” She then followed HIM.

  • bpgagirl22VAnow

    It’s NOT just a common Western story! It’s in the New Testament! Go read it! I’ll give you a hint, the first four books!

  • bpgagirl22VAnow

    Bash0001 – thank you!

  • bpgagirl22VAnow

    Yes she was! Thank you!

  • CoffeeH

    Here’s what I learned. Plus, she says her in testimony she only went to church for the first time 4 years ago and “surrendered her life”, so she was definitely NOT a Christian before that. In her words:

    “In addition to my desire to serve the people of Rowan County, I owe my life to Jesus Christ who loves me and gave His life for me. Following the death of my godly mother-in-law over four years ago, I went to church to fulfill her dying wish. There I heard a message of grace and forgiveness and surrendered my life to Jesus Christ. I am not perfect. No one is. But I am forgiven and I love my Lord and must be obedient to Him and to the Word of God.” – Kim Davis

  • Trevor Lahey

    You mean like she judges gay people? Admittedly I don’t know if you’re being serious…

  • Trevor Lahey

    Problem is, there is really no such thing as heterophobia (as a straight man I can attest to it). In this particular case, the only ones exhibiting bigoted actions were Davis and the christians who don’t want to afford the same rights to gay people that they have themselves. You are just so invested in your own persecution that you can’t understand that criticism for denying other’s rights isn’t persecution itself. You simply don’t have the right to deny people their’s because something you cherry picked from your personal religion.

  • Trevor Lahey

    Except it’s only your side of bigots who are trying to deny people their constitutional rights. And no, denying rights is not a ‘right’ itself and you aren’t being persecuted.

  • bash0001

    Trevor you seem to skew the point . . . it is as if YOU don’t believe blacks can be racist nor do YOU believe LGBTs can be bigots. There is no talking to people like you because nothing anyone says will convince YOU that YOU are not always right. You have got to be a liberal. In this situation, there are two sets of rights and they conflict. SO WHO’S RIGHTS ARE RIGHT? What you have a one set claiming an amendment that doesn’t specifically say ANYTHING about their complaint (the rights of gays to be married) versus another amendment that DOES say specifically that a “right shall not be infringed” The right to practice one’s religion. Now why would an implied right trump a WRITTEN right? NOW SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR RIGHTs DENIED . . . Personally I’d rather deny an inspecific right that leads to tyranny, than deny a specific right that could jeopardize the faiths of millions if tyrants take it away.

  • bash0001

    When the court had no authority to enact law, there can be no contempt for the court. As far as I know the State of Kentucky passed an amendment to their state’s constitution defining marriage. That law was challenged and went to the Federal Court. It is the JOB of the Federal Court to hand down an OPINION on whether or not the Federal Court believes the state’s amendment was in violation of the U.S. Constitution. A ruling was against the state. BUT simply because the ruling was AGAINST the state of Kentucky does NOT give the COURT the right to ISSUE a NEW LAW for the State of Kentucky. The Court should have handed their opinion to Kentucky and let Kentucky hash out what to do about it. The court itself violated the law. How can you pluck someone up and jail them for contempt of an “OPINION”? When the court ruled they were to start issuing gays marriage licenses, the state had NO LAW on the books that she was violating. If a Federal Court is gong to make a ruling about a law, then there NEEDS to be a law there for them to act upon. The Federal Courts can NOT enact laws and neither can the U.S. Supreme Court. What we have here is tyranny in action, jailing people for violating a judge’s opinion.

  • bash0001

    Patheos is nothing but Progressive secular humanist BIGOTS. Communists in every sense.

  • vortem

    Though shalt not mention the Paylin name in this blog. Makes one wonder why hmmmm?

  • Trevor Lahey

    Nope, you have the real law vs. your made-up “God’s law” which basically means whatever that individual wants it to mean. And my reply was to the original poster who was ignorant enough to think that words only have one static definition.

  • bash0001

    God’s LAW only applies to us. The way WE conduct our lives. If you have not accepted God, then fine go your own way. God’s Law doesn’t apply to America. It applies to people in specific.

    95% of all words mean exactly what they say, what GAYS have done is root around to find the five percent so they can skew the rest of the meaning to their benefit. And I remind you GAY MARRIAGE IS NOT A REAL LAW. Never was it voted on by the U.S. Congress nor signed into LAW by OBAMA. Even the STATE of KENTUCKY doesn’t have a gay marriage law written on their books. The U.S. Supreme Court issued an OPINION, NOT WROTE A LAW. Where the U.S. Federal Courts committed an error was NOT sending their OPINION back to Kentucky so KENTUCKY could hash it out. The Supreme Court VIOLATED the constitution and the federal judge that threw Ms. Davis in jail committed a crime.

  • Trevor Lahey

    So if you want the laws swimming around in your head to outweigh the actual laws of the U.S., then move to the middle east and go full Sharia, because you’re apst there. And your assertion that gays are changing the meanings of words is honestly one of the craziest things I’ve ever heard. And again, if you hate our system of government, move someplace else.

  • bash0001

    Gays . . . OPINION = LAW (is that not changing words?)
    I contend the LAW you gays THINK there is is just “swiming around in your heads” because it was never voted on by the U.S. Senate or House and was either rejected or not even brought up in many states where it is being forced upon the people that don’t want it. Gay Marriage is not a law.

  • Trevor Lahey

    So basically you don’t understand the purpose of the judicial branch. The Supreme Court interprets existing laws, like it did in this case. Again, I’m sure there are middle eastern countries was less complicated systems based on “God’s law” so you’d probably be more comfortable there.

  • bash0001

    What part of WE DON’T WANT GAY MARRIAGE ! Does the court NOT UNDERSTAND ! ! ! . . . How about we just not have marriage licenses for ANYONE. Let the Churches decide what marriage is according to their doctrines. How about we just drop the business of marriage OUT of the government realm all together and that means nobody get a marriage tax break (which is not really a break anyway) and NOBODY can lay claim to anyone’s death benefits or estate unless it is specifically written in a will? Now that will work.

  • bash0001

    I was born and raised here, I’m not going anywhere. But then YOU gays can’t go much of anywhere either because half of the world is off limits to you because PEOPLE DON’T LIKE YOU.

  • vortem

    I suspect you also have noted that too Trevor hence the “P.”. Curious isn’t it??

  • Trevor Lahey

    Silly me, I forgot America was only for people who think just like you! In all seriousness, you’ve become unhinged.

  • Trevor Lahey

    And for the record I’m not gay. Totally hetero.

  • Trevor Lahey

    I’m straight, sparky. Believe it or not, this whole thing isn’t hetero vs. homo. Most straight people think your ilk are backwards mouth breathers.

  • Trevor Lahey

    Yup. I’ve posted other comments with the full name that conveniently disappear pretty quickly. Honestly I’m surprised my initial comment made it.

  • bash0001

    In all seriousness I believe you are one stupid basturd.

  • Trevor Lahey

    I take great solace in knowing how unhappy you are that the world is changing for the better.

  • bash0001

    That it might be getting better is your opinion and I will remind you that opinions are like butt holes . . . everyone has one and they all stink. I venture to guess, based on your idiocy, you believe your opinions are LAW don’t you?

  • Trevor Lahey

    So you’re saying your opinions stink too, or just mine? And yeah, it’s my opinion any time you stop discriminating against a group of people it’s a step in the right direction. And PLEASE don’t counter that christians or heterosexuals are being discriminated against. Yup, my opinion on this is now the law of the land.

  • bash0001

    Never said that mine didn’t stink too to some one. So communism is now the law of the land? What you have here and now is Oceania, George Orwell’s book 1984 in real life now. When you can throw someone in jail for what they believe or say. Where there is no such thing as a U.S. Constitution and that Courts can make laws willy-nilly as they wish is a country that I WILL take up arms against.

  • Trevor Lahey

    So equal rights equals communism for you? That’s, um, interesting. Pretty sure it was 1984 the second that Kim Davis, acting as Big Brother, started denying constitutional rights to American citizens. You keep parroting the lie that she was put in jail for her beliefs when she was really put in jail for contempt of court. And for the umpteenth time, it is you that is showing disdain for the Constitution. But go ahead, take up arms and go on your little jihad against America. I bet you’ll accomplish a lot.

  • Beth Grant DeRoos

    Trevor Lahey what I find interesting is how those who rant and rave and talk about taking up arms, is most never even get involved in local politics.

    Taking up arms would put their lives at risk and it much easier to sit in the comfort of ones first world, over fed, American home and talk big and blustery.

    Associate Justice Stephen Breyer has a new book out and was on Charlie Rose the other night. Great interview. Check it out. http://www.charlierose.com

  • bash0001

    I suspect that she did not throw anyone in jail because she disagreed with them . . . yet a “federal judge” DID because he disagreed with her. So, just WHO was the political correctness prisoner and who was acting like Big Brother here? Today the government took another political correctness prisoner too, a boy who tried to exercise his freedom of expression was sent to prison for it. Just because some pansy butt people took offense. That makes two political correctness prisoners in less that a month. Is this going to be the trend in America now? If you exercise your first amendment you get thrown in jail? I dare say that this is only the beginning.

  • bash0001

    “Contempt of Court” is merely a justification given for taking a political Correctness prisoner to make a scape goat of her for the bigger picture which is the governments willful violation of the 1st Amendment.

  • Trevor Lahey

    Nope, she just refused them their constitutional rights- no biggie. And who are these judges anyway expecting us to follow their rulings. What really gets me is all those murderers that are in jail simply because some activist judge wanted it! Again, you’ve crossed the tracks into crazy town. Please seek help.

  • Trevor Lahey

    Again you show contempt for our entire legal system and Constitution. Have you always been such a radical?

  • bash0001

    Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say that Gays can get married? Where in the U.S. Constitution does it specifically state that? Where in the U.S. Constitution does it specifically define what a marriage is. Fact is it doesn’t and it was left up to STATES to define what a marriage is. If one state says marriage is between a man and a woman only and another state says marriage can be between a man and a woman, man and a man, man and a goat or man and a tree stump. The court’s “opinion” would then be valid in ONLY the state in which man can marry a man, goat or tree stump. Face it the court over stepped it authority and you just won’t admit it. You’ve been wandering around aimlessly in a Utopia of your imagination.