Hipsters Are Gay Wimps?

Hipsters Are Gay Wimps? October 12, 2019

I’ve seen this site, Pulpit and Pen.org pop up a number of times now. I’ve given them a scant look-see until this. A piece by some anonymous coward about how Real Men are not hipsters. I am reminded of two pastors we already watch from here, Doug Wilson and Tim Bayly, with their own crazy over the top ideas of what manhood looks like that makes you question their sexuality.

These guys are not them, but not too far off of Wilson and Bayly’s words. Meet the guys of the Fellowship Baptist Church of Sidney, Montana and their uncomfortable thoughts on what makes a man.

Tim Bayly of Out Of Our Minds could have written this ludicrous drivel.  Sorry, guys, but skinny jeans, beards, Starbucks lattes or other ridiculous externals say nothing about about the inner man, what he believes, his salvation and it’s silly that they think it does. Bunch a white washed sepulchers.

Newsflash! Even if these were markers of gay men, which they are not, it is meaningless. Gay men are no less ‘manly’ than regular straight guys. I am betting that none of these sniveling little wimps could pick out someone else sexuality short of them waving a placard. Gay men, like straight men, come in a rainbow assortment of body types, fashion likes and dislikes, latte drinking or not, deep or high voices, facial hair and every other distinctive one can imagine.

This is just more gay fear mongering. Interestingly enough they, Wilson and Bayly do not seem to realize that the more time they spend thinking about these things the more suspect it becomes.

Secure rational adults don’t spend enormous blocks of time and brain cells on the sexuality of others.

Notice too that they never bemoan and spend the same amount of psychic energy on lesbians. It’s almost as though they do not exist.

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  • Michael Neville

    I never concern myself about someone else’s sexual orientation or “manliness” except when they loudly proclaim anyone else’s failure to meet arbitrary “manliness” standards. Methinks they do protest too much.

  • Jennifer

    Oh how funny: I’ve despised this group’s thinking for some time, and one of my most conservative male friends just posted a link to this article saying how ugly it was. Several of his friends with similar beliefs agreed, discussing how toxic their arrogance could be. Did me good to see some of their target2 audience reject their un-Christlike attitude.

  • SAO

    It’s interesting to me that in the CPM world, latte-drinkers are often scorned, but you don’t hear them saying that “real men” drink their coffee black. My guess is most of the scorners of latte-drinkers drink their coffee with milk, making the difference between their coffee and a latte mostly a matter of marketing. So, “real men” are afraid of foreign words. Very manly of them.

  • frostysnowman

    “Legs crossed as though devoid of any encumberment”? Bwahahaha!!

  • Michael Neville

    The difference between a cup of coffee with milk/artificial creamer (French: café au lait) and a latte is about $2.25.

  • Jennny

    My husband was told to keep up his calcium levels which he tries to do by diet. He doesn’t particularly like milk, but takes a good amount by having 3-4 mugs of latte everyday which he finds palatable, so that’s wrong, Real Men, Real X-tian Men would take it as hot milk and not flavour it with instant coffee? I must warn hubby his eternal destiny is at stake by the imbibing of such a sinful beverage.

  • Raging Bee

    So they’re saying Real Men only buy the cheap stuff?

  • Allison the Great

    Exactly. When they excessively whine that someone isn’t manly enough, they’re basically saying they the guy isn’t their type and they are low-key trying to find a guy in their area to date and can’t. The man complaining about said manliness is basically telling me that they are so far in the closet that they’ve found Narnia.

  • Saraquill

    A platonic marriage with their version of a gay man sounds nicer than marrying one of their “real men.”

  • persephone

    Personally, I don’t want to think about anyone else’s s3x life, no matter the flavor. I’ve got a good visual imagination which doesn’t need that added.

    Part of it, I think, is the pants feelings these guys get when looking at an attractive man, as Suzanne noted, but I think there’s also the “Christian men aren’t tough” attitude that was around for a while, though I haven’t seen or heard it in ages. They have to be uber men. They have to be more manly than thou. They have to have hot wives that they plow with regularity. How else will they attract manly men to the church? How else can they keep their wives submissive housewives?

  • persephone

    Yes. And they toss yesterday’s grounds in with today’s, just for that bitter, oily aftertaste that they can handle because they’re MEN!

  • persephone

    I would totally consider that kind of marriage.

  • WallofSleep

    From that point on I was like “OMG! This sounds like somebody’s fanfic that’s about to turn ‘dirty’ any paragraph now”.

  • WallofSleep

    Well, the definition of “Hipster” certainly has changed over the years. In my day it was a guy who was at least in his 30’s who was trying to appear “hip” to a much younger crowd, usually teenagers.


  • Jim Jones

    Secure rational adults don’t spend enormous blocks of time and brain cells on the sexuality of others.

    I know there are gay men out in the world. They have heir lives, I have mine. There’s no reason for me to spend much time thinking about their world.

    Notice too that they never bemoan and spend the same amount of psychic energy on lesbians2. It’s almost as though they do not exist.

    Or they keep thinking of girl-on-girl action. Wistfully.

  • Jim Jones

    You mean priests and youth pastors?

  • Jim Jones

    50/50 coffee and chicory?

  • The Jack of Sandwich

    I don’t drink lattes because it leaves the best part off the cappucino. Why would you want a cappucino without foamed milk?
    If there’s no foamed milk going in my coffee, I’m getting it cheap as possible, and plenty of it.

  • Friend

    Pulpit and Pen is the brainchild of JD Hall, who pastors Fellowship Baptist Church Sidney, Montana. Other writers contribute.

    When a preacher’s son took his own life, it was pointed out that Hall had heavily criticized the boy on social media, even contacting the boy directly. Hall’s complaints about the boy, and justification of his own behavior toward the boy, st1nk of purity culture.

    I am not naming the boy here. The behavior of illustrious adults, before and after the boy’s de@th, was ugly1 in the extreme.

  • Janet Freiheit

    Marriage to one of these “real men” strikes me as a much worse punishment then their version of hellfire and damnation!

  • Raging Bee

    (And because the boss is too cheap to buy enough of even the cheap stuff. That’s the sort of privation that builds character!)

  • I take it this dude’s never heard of bears, then?

  • AFo

    So even crossing your legs is a sign of “effeminacy” now? Because to me it’s a sign that the person making the observation has nothing better to do with their time.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    I know! I was thinking about bears the entire time I was writing this. What must it be like to have such a small, puny, limited view of your own gender.

  • Steven Erickson

    How did he leave out other stereotypes about hipsters: they all live in Brooklyn, Austin or Portland, love Wes Anderson movies and indie rock bands like Arcade Fire and Vampire Weekend? From his idea of “hipster” behavior, it’s clear he’s never actually interacted with anyone who might fit that description,

  • Anri

    I guess it must be pretty light lifting to make a living off of a series of musings of which apparently every single one could be replaced with the phrase “I view the entire world through ridiculous, outdated stereotypes.”

  • I wanna see how he reacts when he finds out about Furries.

  • This post is pretty gay.

  • NikkiofAmystika

    I read and write fanfic. These guys would give a bad name to even the worst fanfic writers out there.