When Quiverfull and Celebrity Worship Collide

When Quiverfull and Celebrity Worship Collide February 25, 2020
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Yesterday was the public memorial service for basketball great Kobe Bryant and his teenage daughter Gianna. It was held at the Staples Center, in downtown Los Angeles, the same venue that Kobe played at with the Los Angeles Lakers many times. His wife Vanessa hosted an array of fans and other celebrities on his public send off.

I personally did not watch, but I’m not a basketball fan. When something happens like Byrant’s passing I’ll think, “How sad for his family and fans.” and move on along. I’m always sad for those left behind to deal with the aftermath.

Then I look to see what all our most awful Quiverfull Cultural Enforcers are saying and doing over the tragedy. Lori Alexander of The Transformed Wife can always be counted on to say something merciless and truly awful, like she did when the tragedy first took place. Lori blamed Vanessa for allowing them to travel by helicopter, and for not promoting Gianna staying home instead of playing basketball.

This is just more like last week when Suzanne Venker tried to insert her opinions into the talk surrounding Taylor Swift’s new song “The Man”

Yesterday’s service brought out the usual bunch. Jinger Duggar Vuolo posted about it of course because she and her husband Jeremy seem to be all about Los Angeles celebrity culture since moving to the City of Angels.

They are rapidly morphing into the couple that will go to the opening of an envelope. They’ve been all over Kanye West and his new religious direction.

And then you have Lori Alexander, mean girl extraordinaire.

Lori said quite a few more things not so nice about the Bryants, which was sort of comical. These aren’t people she knows personally, and she has exactly zero alignment with anything they do.

Commenters took exception with much of what she said, and before long Lori was forced to retract, or else Twitter and/or Facebook removed her words.

Why do Quiverfull enforcers feel the need to shoehorn themselves into celebrities lives and into a culture they abhor, but watch obsessively?

Today Lori is busy standing up for the President’s wife, Melania Trump, who can best be described as seeming like a hostage to fortune. Notice that today Lori says we should not judge.

I have nothing against Melania, or for her, but find Lori’s sudden defense or her confusing. Are we to judge, not judge, what’s going on here? I did see the coverage of the President and his wife in India and I have to say whoever her dresser and stylist are they should be fired. Melania looks like a sofa the way they dressed her.

For giggles Lori just discovered that singer Justin Bieber is a Christian. I guess eventually the news finally gets around a good five years after he joined Hillsong. I also guess she does not know that Justin’s latest single “Yummy” is all about that thing she hates and thinks is non-Christian – oral sex. And it’s not even the first song Bieber has done about this subject.

I guess now we’ll have to listen to her carry on about the wonders of Justin Bieber instead of Kanye West. Kanye is having his own issues right about now with his “church services”

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Suzanne Titkemeyer went from a childhood in Louisiana to a life lived in the shadow of Washington D.C. For many years she worked in the field of social work, from national licensure to working hands on in a children's residential treatment center. Suzanne has been involved with helping the plights of women and children' in religious bondage. She is a ordained Stephen's Minister with many years of counseling experience. Now she's retired to be a full time beach bum in Tamarindo, Costa Rica with the monkeys and iguanas. She is also a thalassophile. She also left behind years in a Quiverfull church and loves to chronicle the worst abuses of that particular theology. She has been happily married to her best friend for the last 33 years. You can read more about the author here.
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  • AFo

    Vanessa Bryant is a better mother than Lori will ever be. She allowed her daughter the freedom to explore what she was passionate about, instead of stifling it and telling her that her place was cooking and cleaning. I admire her strength; I can’t imagine how painful and difficult it must have been for her to get up in front of that crowd and give a speech while the pain of losing her husband and child is still very fresh. Lori is a mean-spirited coward who tries to be provocative in her postings for attention, then gets defensive and nasty2 when people push back. All she does is hide behind her screens and try to spread her misery to everyone else.

  • Tawreos

    Why do Quiverfull enforcers feel the need to shoehorn themselves into celebrities lives and into a culture they abhor, but watch obsessively?

    Recruitment recruitment recruitment. If you see the hateful things they say and like what you see then that makes it all worthwhile to them. Maybe we should frame up Melania’s modeling pictures and send them to her since that is the type of First Lady that Lori thinks is best.

  • Tawreos

    Can anyone recall when either Hillary or Michelle made a speech while their husbands were president that completely disagreed with the policies of their husband’s administration in any way? Because I certainly can’t.

  • Ally

    This is such a great point. Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama were actually far more supportive of their husbands than Melania Trump has been. Yes, they were much more publicly active than Melania Trump, but all of that activity was dedicated to promoting their husbands’ policies and presidencies or to policies that were complementary. Melania Trump has done almost nothing to promote her husband’s policies, and what she has done has ranged from ineffective to actively damaging. Remember when she got caught plagiarizing from Michelle Obama for example? So, Lori isn’t angry at Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama for not being publicly supportive of their husbands. She’s angry at them for supporting policies that she doesn’t. Alternatively, if she is angry at them, it’s because she confuses support and silence. Someone needs to go look at Proverbs 31 again.

  • Ally

    I don’t wish Lori harm, but I look forward to her obituary with great anticipation. And I don’t even feel bad saying that because what kind of subhuman monster2 does someone have to be to criticize a grieving widow who also lost one of her children? Vanessa Bryant lost her husband long before she could have ever expected to, and she lost her child—something no parent expects. She also has three other children to raise, including an infant daughter who will never get to know her father, and she has to stay strong and support them through this massive loss while dealing with her own pain. Lori is a subhuman monster2 who could never do for its own children what Vanessa Bryant is currently doing for hers.

  • Ally

    Nah, send ‘em to Ken. Really grind Lori’s gears.

  • frostysnowman

    Laura and Barbara Bush both gave speeches while they were First Ladies. So did St. Ronnie’s wife, Nancy. It’s not just Dem first ladies who do such things.

  • Raging Bee

    Michelle’s been pretty outspoken. Why do you think so many Democrats want her to run for President?

  • Mel

    CP/QF is a MLM for women, really. Like a lot of patriarchal societies, older women do eventually gain some power – and especially over younger women. Michelle Duggar has power by being ‘over’ her daughters and daughters-in-law. Lori can’t quite pull that off since she only had 4 kids – but she can get a vicarious thrill by controlling other women who enter after her.

    That’s also why these women tilt at windmills by taking cheap shots at people who are famous on a larger scale. CP/QF women are straight up jealous of those other women because those women have fame, widespread recognition, and sometimes actual power.

  • Mel

    Lori’s pretty consistent on that subject if you recognize that talking forthrightly to a husband is trying to ‘control’ him, but anything a wife does surreptitiously like sabotaging her birth control to become a SAHM is legitimate since the husband thinks he’s in charge.

    It’s a 5psychotic5 way to live – but we’ve come to expect that from Lori.

  • Dom S

    I really like Michelle but I totally understand and respect why she didn’t want to pull a Hillary. She saw what 8 years of this country did to her husband and saw that that wasn’t for her.

  • Jennifer

    So the reason she likes Melania is not bc she’s nice or gracious, but bc she allows 1fools like Lori to pretend she has no contrary opinion to her husband’s? Dear Lord. And what do you mean IF she has no such opinion? Of course she disagrees with him at times, they’re humans and that’s what humans do; Melania is just professional the way you need to be when your husband or you are high profile. The fact that Lori thinks this could possibly mean they never disagree is so sickening.

    “Lori blamed Vanessa for allowing them to travel by helicopter, and for not promoting Gianna staying home instead of playing basketball”

    *Sputters in a language not appropriate for this site*

  • Jennifer

    Precisely. Yet more selective reading narrowed thinking from her.

  • Saraquill

    Lori is too much of a tw1t to willingly gain perspective. Paul could post a message on her Facebook saying “STOP BEING A J@CK@SS” and she’d still turn away.

  • B.A.

    I just lost a co-worker/special friend over the weekend. He was only 53. I had worked with him for 17 years;we started our job on the same day. He was gay and I know what Lori’s attitude is about that,and yes,I do wish it had been her instead of my friend who died. That may sound mean,but it’s only been a few days since J. died and he didn’t deserve it.

  • B.A.

    That’s why Lori hates her. And why I love her.

  • You forget — It’s Okay If You’re A Republican

  • Elvis — as much as I dislike him — Elvis had class.

  • Zeldacat

    She’d be awesome and I’d love it if she did – but she doesn’t want to for a lot of very good reasons and I don’t blame her at all for feeling that way. Assuming we’re still here, maybe one of the daughters someday?

  • Jim Jones

    See his, “If I can dream” on YouTube.

  • Okay, class and some social consciousness.

  • Jesus could reach down and dope-slap her, and she wouldn’t get a clue.

  • Jennny

    I was impressed by Chelsea Clinton when she was interviewed on TV in the UK not long ago. She came across as intelligent with feet planted firmly on the ground. She was asked more than once to respond to questions about her mother and said very politely and firmly each time, ‘My mother can speak for herself.’ In my dream future, she, Malia, Sasha, Greta, Malala or those 4 congresswomen of colour should rule the world. (Oh and Lady Hale, 74yo, ex-president of our Supreme Court who took down Boris and there’s now a whole apparel range mocking him because he didn’t like ‘girly swots.’ She told an audience of teenage girls ‘Let’s hear it for girly swots.’ And that’s become a tee/sweatshirt slogan!

  • Friend

    The president travels by helicopter.

    There are official photos of his minor child boarding Marine One.

    Why is the first lady not preventing that?

    I’m omitting names here because my comment is about Lori. Presidential families of both parties have traveled by helicopter for decades.

  • Nea

    Proverbs 31 is about a woman who works, so that’s going to give Lori hives right there.

  • SAO

    I doubt Michelle Obama ever made a public speech that was not completely supportive of her husband, unless it was planned and agreed on. The Obamas have a great marriage. Michelle was a powerful emotional support to Barack and a powerful policy support. If there’s a definition of ‘helpmeet’ that is not doormat, yeswoman or servant, Michelle embodies it. Melania, on the other hand is arm candy. I doubt Trump bothers to talk to her much. If she serves any role, it’s ego-stroking, which, admittedly, Trump needs a lot of.

    Melania doesn’t give speeches because she has a strong accent, no support as first lady, and no idea of what the role is. Her ‘Be Best’ campaign was a joke and died a quick death. Besides, if anything, it ran directly counter to Trump’s brand. As a side point, in Russian, ‘better’ and ‘best’ are the same word. If you need to emphasize the difference between better and best, you say ‘most better’ or ‘better than all’. So, ‘Be Best’ makes sense in Russian, which isn’t Slovenian, but is a Slavic language, like Slovenian.

  • paganheart

    And it’s okay if you are merely supporting your husband’s administration and policies…as opposed to, you know, being an educated and accomplished woman in your own right with your own independent thoughts and ideas…

  • paganheart

    So sorry for your loss. *offers internet hugs*

    I often think that the fact that good people leave this plane of existence too soon, while mean-spirited creatures like Lori continue to foul the Earth, is proof that there is no god…

  • Debra Wehrly

    She is a “Captain Keyboard”

  • B.A.

    Thank you. Here’s a *hug* back.

  • B.A.

    And real,true talent.

  • Martin Penwald

    At pillaging black culture.

  • (((GC)))

    (Offers more virtual hugs, from some guy on the internet who realizes that sometimes life simply isn’t fair, and that nothing he can say or write will make everything “all right”.)

  • texassa

    A parent would be just as likely to remark at a young son’s funeral that they would never see him marry or become a father. You wouldn’t hear them talking about his never earning a paycheck either. Turning that into a gendered observation is nonsensical.