Quoting Quiverfull: Be Quiverfull, Be White Supremacists and Withdraw?

Quoting Quiverfull: Be Quiverfull, Be White Supremacists and Withdraw? August 24, 2017

quotingquiverfullby Ayla Stewart from Wife With A Purpose – They Are Deplatforming Us, Here’s What To Do Now

Editor’s note: I found this Mormon White Supremacy female cultural enforcer from an article in Salon and spent much of the morning reading through her archives. For a long time I figured that there had to be Quiverfull Alt-Right out there, but they weren’t very public, at least not until the election of Donald Trump. This lady is outraged that the Mormon church released a statement this week calling racism wrong on every level, stating that racism and Mormonism are completely incompatible.

We Traditionalist Right, Alt Right, Nationalists, Identitarians, etc. need to extract the valuable lessons these communities have to offer and build a network of community and connection for our movement and our families which a) doesn’t rely on any outside power source and b) has a strict, orderly, hierarchy from which to rapidly respond to any and all events or disturbances in our community.

We have seen a massive crack down online. We were set up in Charlottesville and they have launched their coordinated attacks in earnest! Free speech and free association are no longer allowed in our countries by the ruling class so we must inoculate ourselves against their attacks! We must be in the world but not of the world. The world may rage, and storm and beat at our door but we must be secure and self sufficient so that they can take nothing from us.

And it isn’t just a social network and news/blog platform we need, we must create an independent economy as well. We need to start buying and selling from one another. We need to begin building things up one step at a time. We need to reevaluate every aspect of our lives and ask ourselves, how can I do better? How can I either create or get an independent platform for what I need or how can I get my product or services met by a fellow brother or sister in the movement? How can I support independence in my everyday actions?

QUOTING QUIVERFULL is a regular feature of NLQ – we present the actual words of noted Quiverfull leaders, cultural enforcers and those that seek to keep women submitted to men and ask our readers: What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This is the place to state your opinion. Please, let’s keep it respectful – but at the same time, we encourage readers to examine the ideas of Quiverfull and Spiritual Abuse honestly and thoughtfully.

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  • Tawreos

    Let’s build a whole new society to act as an echo chamber so that we never have to wonder whether or not our ideas and beliefs could be wrong.

  • Nea

    In other words: “I’m so outraged that people aren’t venerating the white supremacists who failed to secede that it’s time for all of us white supremacists to secede!”

  • Chiropter

    I am sick to death of people who wail about free speech with no understanding of how it works, legally or socially.

    These white supremacists want to do and say whatever they wish with impunity, but get their feeeeelings hurt when anyone else disagrees at all.

    Pretty damn fragile for the “master race”

  • Mel

    I had a book called “How to Drive Like A Maniac”. It was a tongue-in-cheek version of a self-help manual that taught a person how to become a road-rage driver. It had one real pearl of wisdom for understanding narcissists of all types: “Rules never apply to me – but everyone else had better follow my rules perfectly or I’ll make them pay!”

    White supremacists want to be able to assemble wherever, whenever with whatever they want – but unarmed African-Americans marching with all of the correct paperwork are thugs undermining society. This repeats with every topic ad nauseum.

  • Mel

    There’s a lot of signaling of alternate US history beliefs in many CP/QF blogs at least.

    In people who discuss the details of trips and homeschooling, scan for “The War Between the States” – which implies that the Confederacy was a) valid in leaving the Union because the president wasn’t who they wanted and b) that war was about “States’ Rights” (which sounds quite noble) instead of “States’ Rights to exclude citizenship/personhood to African Americans forever” (not as charming) – and attendance at some of the Vision Forum events like the Patriot Ball which glorified the ideal of antebellum South. (Oddly enough, white people don’t want to play pretend as dirt-poor farmers whose children were dying of pellagra despite the historical accuracy. They want the fluffy gowns and fans….)

  • These white supremacists want to do and say whatever they wish with impunity, but get their feeeeelings hurt when anyone else disagrees at all.

    The Right in general is like that! See how offended they got over a Disney show with LGBT characters, how they attacked someone who compared the Gitmo soldiers to Nazis, their treatment of the Dixie Chicks and Colin Kaepernack, their reply to an ad singing “America the Beautiful” in other languages, saying America isn’t a Christian nation, saying Jesus isn’t the Only Way to God, apologizing for America, criticizing America, not whitewashing American history, etc.

    It’s reverse political correctness!

    I grew up in the Religious Right. When they’d get offended, I wondered, “What ever happened to free speech?”

  • The irony is that LDS used to be very racist, and did not let black people be members until 1978, when a leader claimed to have had a revelation to allow black people in.

  • They already do that!

  • Saraquill

    This sounds like the mission statement of QF.

  • SAO

    They fought for slavery, which is a hell of a lot worse than denying citizenship or personhood. Slavery is always accompanied by violence because no human works hard for no pay. So you need to punish the slackers hard enough to ensure that all slaves work hard. Then, you need to punish runaways even more viciously and those who rebel or fight their ‘masters’ need the most brutal punishment.

    Ask anyone who suggests slavery wasn’t that bad to tell you the motivational techniques of the slaveowners, because effective methods of motivating workers is something millions of companies would pay to learn.

  • SAO

    Let them live in their own miserable ghetto spewing their toxic ideas to each other.

  • AFo

    This isn’t even the worst of what they’re saying. I’ve seen multiple things basically saying that all good white Christians have a duty to “outbreed” the blacks/Muslims/liberals/”unbelievers”/anyone who’s not just like them in order to “restore” the “real” culture of the US. Total domination is their endgame.

  • Suzanne Harper Titkemeyer

    Nancy Campbell has said that is why all Christians should embrace Quiverfull, to outbreed the black and brown people.

  • Chiropter

    Ugh, yes. All the same people who smugly suggested my history degrees were useless now find themselves very concerned with “remembering” history

  • katiehippie

    I’m going to start pushing by by throwing their anti political correctness in their faces. You can’t tell me you are anti- PC and then whine about what I might say to you. They just want to say whatever nasty thing they want with no pushback. Well, if they can give it out, they better be able to take it.

  • katiehippie

    “we must create an independent economy as well”
    Good luck with that. Just make sure you pay for your own roads and utilities. All that infrastructure stuff. Oh, and grow all your own food. Wouldn’t want any of that librul food to sully your gullet.

  • bekabot

    We need to start buying and selling from one another. We need to begin building things up one step at a time. We need to reevaluate every aspect of our lives and ask ourselves, how can I do better? How can I either create or get an independent platform for what I need or how can I get my product or services met by a fellow brother or sister in the movement? How can I support independence in my everyday actions?

    This isn’t such a bad idea, except for the part (which goes unspecified here) about only interacting/trading with persons of your own genetic/mimetic background — which is a bad idea.

    (It’s always the fine print, isn’t it?…when it’s not the nonexistent print.)

  • Almost a chimp

    How can I either create or get an independent platform for what I need or how can I get my product or services met by a fellow brother or sister in the movement? How can I support independence in my everyday actions?”

    Here’s an idea; why not follow the example of another group of religious zealots that had a hissy fit because their bigoted ideas wrapped up as piety had decent people pointing and laughing at them?
    Just as that group did in 1620, find yourselves a country with a bit of spare land and no anti-racism laws (preferably an uninhabited island so there’s no native population to slaughter – no need to follow the example that closely, much as you might enjoy doing so), get yourselves a boat, and bugger off.

  • paganheart

    According to a good friend of mine who is ex-Mormon, they’re still quite racist. But church leadership has to tread a very thin line because most of their new converts are coming from non-White, non-European areas of the world (South America and the Pacific Island nations in particular.) But the leadership of the LDS church is still comprised entirely of old, white men. When some of these newer Mormons from other ethnic groups reach the point where they should be assuming senior leadership positions in the church, things could get very, very interesting. My friend expects to see a lot of excommunications, such as happened a couple of years ago when women demanded the right to serve in church leadership.

    Also, people have noted that the church’s sudden “revelation” on black people only occurred after the Federal government threatened to revoke the church’s tax-exempt status over their refusal to admit black students to BYU. (Not to mention BYU’s football fortunes taking a dive because they did not recruit black players….)

  • Lily Erickson

    People not wanting to be around you or listen to you because you are a gross, racist, sexist asshole is not- in fact- the same thing as you being denied freedom of assembly or freedom of speech.

  • lady_black


  • pagankitty

    Desiring to outbreed brown/Muslim people is reasonably common in far-right circles. My mother and all my mother’s friends were anxious to do their part and would share articles that said how many kids each woman needed in order to preserve “western” (i.e. white) culture.

  • Anonyme

    Some people don’t realize that “freedom of speech” doesn’t mean “freedom to be an asshole”.

  • pinkie

    Overpopulation is a contest now, I guess.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    A lot of these folks actually are really into gardening and homesteading etc. They don’t seem to have any answer for the infrastructure thing though.

  • Petticoat Philosopher

    And then they go and scream about how pro-choicers support eugenics…

  • B.A.

    That “pearl of wisdom” also describes Trump to a T!

  • B.A.

    And their electricity and water unless they prefer to sit in the dark,use outhouses,and never bathe–all on their own dime. But their already in the dark mentally.

  • B.A.

    Preferably on another planet.

  • B.A.

    Ironically,I’ve also heard and read about fundie Christians discriminating against Mormons,and I’ve heard it from their own mouths. I live in the south,so I’ve heard quite a lot
    of BS from those types.

  • Chiropter

    Oh, the Dixie Chicks! I’d forgotten about that little tempest. Those in my conservative / religious social circles sent around email forwards about how they should just move to Iraq. Ha, how ridiculous we were.

  • Mel

    I’ve not had much success countering “The Civil War was about States’ Rights!” with “No, seriously, history says it was about slavery” because the Lost Cause Myth is all about saving face. By the 1890’s, the descendents of the Confederacy had realized that celebrating their grandfathers’ fight to continue enslaving people was just plain messed-up. So Lost Cause believers reflexively spout “States’ Rights!” when they hear “Slavery”.

    It does make them think more when you walk them through which rights the Confederacy was claiming that states should have instead of the federal government. Was the Confederacy fighting for each state to fix its own weights and measures? To enter treaties with foreign governments on a state-by-state level? For states to have independent post offices or monetary systems? To have states work out treaties between each other for commerce?

    No, the only rights that the Confederacy wanted states to own were the rights to deprive citizenship to African-Americans. Without citizenship/personhood, African-Americans had no right to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness; they could be owned as slaves.

  • lady_black

    My number would have been zero. I never “needed” kids. I wanted a couple, though. Preserving “white culture” was worth nothing to me.

  • Michelle Kirkwood

    Yeah, that was after they finally decided that black people were human and didn’t have tails, or whatever dumb racist s*** they believed about us back them.

  • Michelle Kirkwood

    I remember watching the Phil Donahue show back in the day (around ’90) and on this particular show, I recall this white guy sitting on stage talking about how white people should hurry up and start reproducing, and this white woman sitting next to him saying flat-out that she didn’t feel like having any more kids, and that she wasn’t going to start pumping out some more just for the hell of it (that was the gist of what she said, as far as I can recall.) I’m sure the white guy got called on his BS, since Phil and his audience called guests on their racist bull**** all the time, but in a very polite way. What you just said triggered that memory from those fun days of watching talk shows dealing with subjects like that half the time–ha ha ha!.

  • jennabobenna

    As a decidedly liberal feminist, I’m totally down with this. I highly doubt there are enough brains in the alt-right for them to get very far without the rest of us.