In this episode we explore Rene' Girard's paradigm shifting mimetic theory with author and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano. I asked Matthew to give us a very high level view for people, like me, who have struggled to grasp the concept and its' implications in our life. We also get into the practice of scapegoating and why that's so destructive. Matthew is the author of several books including: All Set Free , From the Blood of Abel , and Heretic! all available on Amazon. He is also a co-host of the popular Heretic Happy Hour podcast and also co-hosts a brand new podcast called The Bonfire Sessions. Up next: Don't miss Episode 06 featuring author Brad Jersak! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Connect with the crew : You can find Lola on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok You can find Kyle on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok. You can find Jason on Facebook , Instagram , and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok). Be sure to check out our Youtube channel. Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB! Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!