This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the This is Not Church podcast featuring our friends Jon and Nat Turney. If you're not listening to them already you should definitely check them out! In this episode of Messy Spirituality, Jason interviews author and former pastor Kevin Sweeney about his spiritual journey and the hidden power of letting go. You're going to love this conversation! Be sure to check out Kevin's books The Making of a Mystic and The Joy of Letting Go. Kevin Sweeney was co-founder and lead pastor of Imagine Church—an urban church in Honolulu that is welcoming of all people, sees imagination as the key to the future, chooses authenticity over performance, substance over hype, and quality over quantity. He is the host of podcast “ The Church Needs Therapy ” and lives In Honolulu with his wife and co-founder of Imagine, Christine, and their two kids, True and Mikayla. You can follow Kevin on Facebook and Instagram. Be sure to follow Jason on Facebook , Instagram , and Twitter as well. Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group and follow the show on Facebook and Twitter ! Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page ! Thanks for listening! Please leave us a five-star rating and enthusiastic review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Connect with the crew : You can find Lola on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok You can find Kyle on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok. You can find Jason on Facebook , Instagram , and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok). Be sure to check out our Youtube channel. Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB! Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!