Episode 45 of the podcast is now available featuring David Meyers. David is a father of 4 and has been married to his wife, Nicole, for 22 years. He is a touring musician turned pastor turned firefighter and is a singer/songwriter creating music with his band Of Light and Shadow whose music is featured in this episode. In this conversation, we discuss David's spiritual journey, why he left local church ministry, his music, and living a life with no regrets. The songs "The Arc" and "Wide Awake" were featured in this episode. You can hear more music from Of Light and Shadow and purchase their new LP "The Art of Shifting Seas" here. David's theology website is an incredible resource as well. You can find that here. You can connect with David on Facebook and Instagram. While you're on social media, please be sure to follow our podcast on Facebook and Instagram as well. You can find every episode of the podcast on our website. Please take a moment to rate and review the podcast on your platform of choice. Finally, we'd really appreciate it if you would help make this podcast happen by becoming a patron on Patreon where you'll get great perks in appreciation for your generous support. Thanks so much for listening! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Connect with the crew : You can find Lola on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok You can find Kyle on Facebook , Instagram , and TikTok. You can find Jason on Facebook , Instagram , and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok). Be sure to check out our Youtube channel. Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB! Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!